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1001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: May 19, 2017, 08:37:32 AM
Everyone started as newbie and whether it's a good choice or not it depends on how they treat the games. But for sure, as a newbie, it's better to start with as small balance as possible until we familiar with all the stuffs and things before make the real betting one.
Newbie or not , high roller or not it is really doesn't matter isn't it?
As gambling for everyone , worth or not just back to you how to handle everything properly.
All i can tell that never consider gambling as your main profit earner , it won't work. Just hurt you and people around you.

i agree start playing gambling with small balance because we need to know how to play the game so we don't have to get trouble in the game. after we can playing with good, we need to manage how much we can spend our money in gambling games, so we can stop or know when we need to stop from gambling games.
It is a basic thing , we don't even have to discuss about it i guess.
People will not do dumb thing go allin on baccarat for tie if they don't know yet how the game work isn't it?
What is be the matter is when a newbie come so confident to a casino to start a career want to make a steady income , it is a blunder.
1002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which Las Vegas Casinos Are Best? on: May 19, 2017, 08:17:00 AM
I've been to Caesar, Wynn, and MGM grand and some small ones, I would say they are practically all the same. What changes though is that in every casino there are different atmosphere. That is where you would decide which one you like. I personally liked the Parisian, it has a nice vibe in the inside.

I had been to las Vegas once and visited few casinos but didn't bet anything over there. Just walk around and came back. But I like MGM grand which is a quite big casino and that day lot of people was playing there. These places are filled with many slot machines.
MGM sounds like familiar , is that casino the one who always in hollywood movie?
Also from what i have heard that ATM inside the casino cost you a very high fee? No wonder as it was a place to earn money eaisly  Cool
Las vegas is heaven for a real gambler , but i prefer to gamble online to avoid real trouble in real life Grin goodluck for finding the best one!
1003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: May 18, 2017, 11:17:20 PM
From my perspective, gambling is a game which bring joyful and the entertainment to you, and sometimes, if you are lucky enough, you may earn good amount of money with it. When I feel sad, I usually gamble with my friends and it do make me relax and feel more comfortable
The fact that gambling really entertaining and make you happy when you won it and get some profit.
I guess it is enough to describe what actually gambling it is , and how it make you feel entertained.
Profit and make money will always be number one reason why people keep coming back to play.
I think people who keep coming back because they already experience to win since people are greedy and they want to win a lot..
But most of the people i think are keep coming back because they have experience of happiness or addiction in gambling this is just a child who addicted in computer games or addicted in drugs that they are keep coming back because they area always get and satisfied happiness. that turn into addiction..
If you are thinking some as making also profit expect that you can be lose a lot. .
Unfortunately no , people always talking about the good things at first place.
No wonder most of them ended up with the negative so bad.
As they keep chasing the winning target but forgot about the risk taken. Gambling sometimes destructive .
That is the act of addicts which bring them to the place of destruction but intelligent people do not go that much in gambling that they destroy their wealth and their future they often keep care of their bets and they do not exceed in their gambling from their limits they kept for themselves.
You think those people who keep gambling everyday in regular time not an addict?
Everyone who do gamble so frequently enough and keep pushing the limit even with the amount that they cannot afford to lose they are an addict.
And sooner or later people who start gamble even for the sake of fun could get addicted , becareful you might the next one.
1004  Other / Off-topic / Re: is worth to buy bitcoins? on: May 18, 2017, 11:09:11 PM
If you have spare cash that is idle in your bank then buy some Bitcoin. Buy an amount that is not too big that if anything bad happens you can still move on with your life. I would put all my life saving in Bitcoins but I have enough Bitcoins in my wallet that I bought way back when its still at $700 USD. I'm enjoying the profits for now and still buying a little as I see price of Bitcoin is still going up.
Of course there is a desire to invest in Bitcoin especially when its price slightly drops, But today Bitcoin have very good indicators and the price increase by the end of the year will be favorable, therefore the investment even at these prices of 1.5k dollars will have a good result.
If people keep waiting and expect the bitcoin price get drop to buy it in cheap.
Then it won't have an ending , as the charts say it all. Bitcoin in bullish right now.
To keep buying bitcoin really better rather than waiting it patiently till get drop , no matter it is 1.5k or 2k , buy it now before the price go higher.
1005  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: May 18, 2017, 10:58:18 PM

I want to generate a constant monthly gain. Is it possible to do this by bitcoin trading? So, can I just do this by dealing with BTC trading?
Are there any people among us who can make a living by trading in BTC?
There is no actually fixed income in trading regardless if its is bitcoin related, foreign exchange related or stock exchange related. As long as you trade, everythng in market would be unpredictable since there is no accepted market that always grow up its value.


Fixed income completely depends on you because if you have enough knowledge how altcoin trading works and by analyzing the market you can make the decent profit with the knowledge you have. You need to take care because some time is not possible to make money with your guessing because sometime bitcoin is in volatile condition. All other altcoin depends on the bitcoin only.

Never seen some guy that makes fix income in tradings but the real say here is we can earn frequently and the money we can get their is undefined since coins movements are not precisely moving good everyday and sometimes they go stable for a while but we may have alternatives from another coin but im pretty sure that our earnings from it is not the same as we earn from the coin we monitored frequently. Fix income on trading is just a myth but if you act correctly then passive income well maybe came to us.
When you have a low profit target from the capital you have and be realistic enough.
I think that time you might could get a steady income a fixed income from trading in bitcoin.
It was not a myth , you and everyone could do it if patient enough .
1006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: May 18, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
Gumbling gives easy money. I play gumbling for fun because it gives fun and most specialy i play gumbling for profit and it really gives a lot of easy money.
Easy money? I think it gives easy money to those who are much expert in gambling and are in the field for dozens of years as for me it is a very risky way for getting profit from there. That is why I am not coming here to gamble for money but mostly I come to gamble for fun. For easy Fun.
Easy money means there is a lot of risk you have to face , right?
It is always worth to gamble for profit as long as you are stay on the limit.
But people keep asking for more everytime they given a good winning , so the result will always lost instead get profit.
1007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Go to Land Based Casinos? on: May 18, 2017, 10:23:29 PM
Do you gamble at land based casinos?
Yes twice a month i go with my boss from freelance he always invite me or join him in the table sometimes and if i win he just gave me 200$ as a tip or maybe more depends on how much profit i get from my opponent and from him also.
Did he invite you to his room too after the game? I  am curious lol .
The atmosphere in the real casino was really priceless , also the proud feeling when you won so real.
Unfortunately outside europe offline casino prohibited to operate , you will hard to find one.
1008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: May 17, 2017, 11:41:28 PM
Everyone started as newbie and whether it's a good choice or not it depends on how they treat the games. But for sure, as a newbie, it's better to start with as small balance as possible until we familiar with all the stuffs and things before make the real betting one.
Newbie or not , high roller or not it is really doesn't matter isn't it?
As gambling for everyone , worth or not just back to you how to handle everything properly.
All i can tell that never consider gambling as your main profit earner , it won't work. Just hurt you and people around you.
1009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: May 17, 2017, 11:00:49 PM
From my perspective, gambling is a game which bring joyful and the entertainment to you, and sometimes, if you are lucky enough, you may earn good amount of money with it. When I feel sad, I usually gamble with my friends and it do make me relax and feel more comfortable
The fact that gambling really entertaining and make you happy when you won it and get some profit.
I guess it is enough to describe what actually gambling it is , and how it make you feel entertained.
Profit and make money will always be number one reason why people keep coming back to play.
I think people who keep coming back because they already experience to win since people are greedy and they want to win a lot..
But most of the people i think are keep coming back because they have experience of happiness or addiction in gambling this is just a child who addicted in computer games or addicted in drugs that they are keep coming back because they area always get and satisfied happiness. that turn into addiction..
If you are thinking some as making also profit expect that you can be lose a lot. .
Unfortunately no , people always talking about the good things at first place.
No wonder most of them ended up with the negative so bad.
As they keep chasing the winning target but forgot about the risk taken. Gambling sometimes destructive .
1010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: May 17, 2017, 10:42:53 PM
Recently I developed stricter version my gambling codex. There are only 2 cases when I stop my gambling session:

1. When I lost all my designated bankroll. I learned from experience that desire to get back and play until you will is the most destructive force in gambling, don't do it.

2. When I win enough money. I usually consider 20% of my initial bankroll as a profit to be great result. We don't want to be too greedy.
The first one is the scheme that people experienced the most.
And the second scheme really rare to be happened , as the emotion and greedy always above anything.
You will always leaving the game without profit , you need to train yourself to not always following the greedy.
1011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: May 17, 2017, 10:29:47 PM
In addition to the bad sides of gambling there are some good sides which is obtained from gambling. Admittedly or not, nowadays, many sports are becoming so popular and we can enjoy world-class games on television. Frankly gambling has contributed considerably to such things. So for me, if gambling is never there maybe I would not know world class soccer's players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi etc.
Lol you don't have to gamble to know a popular sports player like them.
It is sounds like exaggerated for me , if gambling did not exist then not much could changes i guess.
Everything will run as usual , and even this world could get better without gambling? It all just about business actually.
1012  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think bitcoin price will crash again in 2017? on: May 17, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
price will come down at some point but that is not called "crash" it will be a correction and it will not be big.

but nobody can tell you when that time will be! or what the final price is going to be.

look at the history of what has happened and try finding reasons for each of them. that can give you a pretty good picture of what you are dealing with.

and here is the iconic 1 in a million price topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790863.0

this is a simple picture I made 3 months ago from the past 2 and a half years of price rise.





My guts tell me in 2015 ago when the flash crash happened down to below $300 to buy bitcoin as much as i can.
Unfortunately i did not breve enough to buy a lot of bitcoin , just spend a couple dollar to get around 6 bitcoin.
And sell it as soon as hit $700 , as really afraid the real crash could really coming. I was really wrong and regret on what i have did Sad

Yeah I bought below 200 in 2015 in the golden opportunity. That was a miracle. I put a big chunk of my savings in BTC at that time and never sold. Feeling very grateful.
Lucky on you but still i doubt you could survive until the end of bitcoin age to keep holding Cheesy .
You will get tempted as soon as you see the bitcoin price keep skyrocketing.
That is the biggest challenge on holding bitcoin , you should have no access at all to your bitcoin.
1013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: May 17, 2017, 10:02:14 PM
The one way that gambling can help you with your life is that you are going to be part of a gambling site team.
By being employed and working for them, you will be able to have decent salary.
And if they are stable enough, that is going to give you a lot of help.

You know that casino employees have a very good salary and why?
Simply because how good a casino making money rather than you as a player there.
You cannot expect much as player but yiu can when act as the owner!


Exactly with your argument. Being a player in a casino doesn't give help to our lifes. It will only make us want to continue to gamble though always lose.
So yeaaa you shouldn't think that you can see your life as a gambler changed into a better situation.
Gambling even just make things worse and messed up your life in a lot of case.
That is what i believe , instead help your life , gambling only help the casino ow er getting rich and richer.
1014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: May 17, 2017, 09:51:20 PM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?
About this I have the same thinking as you, since I first got to know bitcoin and collected it from some faucet sites, then I invested it instead of expecting to make a profit, instead I found a loss of investment. Since then I've never made any more investments until now, I'd rather gamble than invest to develop the bitcoin I have.
Well, lot of users have been scammed in the name of investment. This has caused more users​to focus into gambling activities, since most of the gambling websites were legit and function in a perfect manner unlike those Scam promotions and investment schemes.
You have to be a little bit smart on choosing which one the investment service that reliable enough.
If you put your money on a random service that offers you a too good to be true profit.
Then no wonder you will frequently get scammed and prefer to gamble.
1015  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 16, 2017, 11:58:56 PM
When a person goes into excitement I play gambling very difficult to control myself and will be established at the right time. It is impossible because of this there is a very strong negative word about gambling and all this because of the fact that players can not control themselves.

So your mental in gambling needs to be reviewed, I mean here is you have to try to go to a higher level that's to assume that in discipline there is no difference between working with gambling. You need to change your mindset about emotional control and think gambling is a golden field that can be dug only with seriousness.

i think he need to change his mindset like you said, learn some lesson about emotion controlling and don't think that gambling as our source to earn money. gambling is just a game that we need to enjoy while we are playing gambling. maybe for once, you feel its really difficult to do but you need to trust your self that you can do with easy so you can start over and over again to control your emotion and yourself.

That is true! From the word game and entertainment, it should not be treated as a source of income. Unless you are a professional on that game like professional basketball player, boxer, swimmer, gambler, and the like!
First of all I will agree with you that yes no one have to expect that they will make money for their future from gambling and if someone is going to gamble only for money then for them I will suggest that go to sports bet and gamble on sports as in that you will earn some profit if you know about sports.
I will say that gambling are only the games for entertainment and if someone is expecting money from gambling then he is at wrong and sooner or later he will lose all of their money in that run that they will recover but not be able to recover their money and will remain poor.
Yeaaa i think those people who successfully make gambling as a media to get entertained is smart enough.
But still no smart way to gamble if you mean to earn a lot of money.
Just do gamble occasionally with the amount you can afford to lose as an effort to be smart in gambling.
1016  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: May 16, 2017, 11:50:34 PM
So in trading how do you deal with loss? For example you've invested in an alt and now it has fallen quite hard and you're on the brink of losing all your bitcoin you invested in it.
How do you actually deal with it? Do you wait and keep on waiting in hope that it will bounce back up and return your investment or you sell and get whatever left of your investment?

For me as a trader, I tend to hold my coins and keep waiting to pump its value again as I believe it will rise its value again. For better, I prefer not to invest in shitcoins so that I can ascertain that the coin I'm holding has a potential to multiply its value in future time of waiting.
I am a trader also but I find it profitable when holding a certain coins rather than trading it on a regular basis, I don't have a bigger capital so I tried to make it a point that I will just do it for long term keep hoping the price will continue to rise.
So it is sounds like you are a kind of long term trader.
Or just an investor who rarely divest your money , which one are you ?  Roll Eyes
When you suffering loss in trading just consider it as a normal thing as you have agreed and know about the risk , walk away and start a new one, waiting isn't a choice.
1017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have found a long term and strong dice strategy. on: May 16, 2017, 11:40:09 PM
I Usually didn't believe on people says that its possible for us to earn for long time on dice game since first its gamble,2nd we got 50/50 chances to win on that and it has a housedge that can possibly kill us and lastly Luck will surely not favor on us all the time so Stop dreaming since we cannot make dice games as our profit generator area just treat gambling on another way and maybe you see some experimental strat for now but believe me bro it will not work always as you want.
Right, I think you can't earn for a long time on dice game. We all know that inoreder to win in gambling you should have a lot of luck because luck will dictate the game wether you lose or win. Strategies may be helpful but you can't guarantee that you will surely win. Dice game is easy to play yet it is very risky.
In dice game there is no such a long term stratedgy that will last longer .I played gambling for a long time with some stratedgy but it take only days or weeks that let me earn after that i lose then find again new stratedgy.
Gambling will always work with that kind way.
Nothing surprised , get hooked because you have know already the feeling to hit a huge multiplier and collect it all.
Then start to think wild about making a winning strategy which completely imaginary , just like this one .
1018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: May 16, 2017, 11:22:07 PM
gambling is never a wrong thing but the way people are doing make others think that gambling is not good for the world. Too many people get addicted to it and lose all of their money. Hope that one day people will understand more about gambling
Yeaaa blame yourself to make gambling wrong , not gambling itself to  be blame.
People really so naive want to have a less risk but a big return , let's be realistic a little bit.
And consider gambling properly as needed as possible , don't go crazy and keep it in a good way.
1019  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: May 16, 2017, 11:06:58 PM
Bitcoin is better than paypal, because I haven't used paypal since bitcoin popular and many merchants accept it. As well as low transaction costs, i chose bitcoin as payment for every online transaction made.
i personally have no idea about paypal therefore i can only chose bitcoin because i mostly use bitcoin for shopping, trading and investment purpose, some i even use it in local shops for shopping.

I don't know you guys are from which country but in my country bitcoins are not accepted in any shops either online or in real shops. So I consider bitcoins as only an investment purpose and sometimes gambling and I use PayPal for online purchases. I'm using Paypal for many years and never had any issues and they give a buyers protection so it is the best way to buy things online.
in fact in most of the places is the same position, but i am sure that very soon when the users of bitcoin will increase in my areas then the shopkeepers will also start accepting bitcoin.
but to me i think now people are giving more importance to bitcoin, even the online shops are now giving preference to bitcoin . they giving option the the people to use bitcoin as for payment method for online shopping. therefore to me i think now bitcoin is become more more popular to be use for online shopping instead of paypal.
No , paypal still far more popular compared to bitcoin.
They have a lot of merchants while bitcoin really have a low merchants as bitcoin itself isn't a corporate but it is a financial system , a currency.
Really hard to adopt a new currency like bitcoin rather than to accept paypal as it is not a currency.
1020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: May 16, 2017, 11:01:03 PM
From my perspective, gambling is a game which bring joyful and the entertainment to you, and sometimes, if you are lucky enough, you may earn good amount of money with it. When I feel sad, I usually gamble with my friends and it do make me relax and feel more comfortable
The fact that gambling really entertaining and make you happy when you won it and get some profit.
I guess it is enough to describe what actually gambling it is , and how it make you feel entertained.
Profit and make money will always be number one reason why people keep coming back to play.
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