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1101  Economy / Web Wallets / Need help opening old blockchain.info wallet. blockchainbdgpzk.onion problem. on: June 25, 2019, 04:38:08 AM
I put in the identifier and password. It then says that further authorization is needed, check email. I open up the email to confirm and get this message.

This site can’t be reached

blockchainbdgpzk.onion refused to connect.


Then I tried to open in a TOR browser and that didn't work either. Any help would be appreciated.
1102  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 24, 2019, 10:30:31 PM
Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.

Also,

It's also known that Jetwin keeps balances in many fiat currencies.

Jetwin accepts USD, Euros and Pounds. 
Please correct me if these arent fiat.
peeps, I dont mind your skewed ratings I really dont.  But you sort of caught yourself double standardizing yourself here and its not fair to this bitcoin community.


As Darkstar pointed out, they don't accept fiat for deposits.
1103  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 24, 2019, 10:22:02 PM


Edit:  Regarding jetWin, do you have a opinion on this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1482225.msg14937838#msg14937838
Not PC but they do this to prevent multi-accounting.
1104  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 24, 2019, 10:16:54 PM
Jetwin told me this in 2015 about their conversion rates.

They use Bitstamp's BID rate for deposits and withdrawals. If customer has selected currency other than USD, then the actual rate is calculated by applying current USD rate of The European Central Bank.
1105  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 24, 2019, 06:40:39 AM
Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.

If you are just now discovering that sportsbet accepts fiat, maybe you are not qualified to dictate sportsbook ratings as you think you are

Also,

Steve - thanks for the update. I'll throw in some plays and do more research shortly.

From a D- to totally delisted lol
Could you make it any more obvious that you are anti-sportsbet?




The progression in currencies used by sportsbet has been followed from 2016 to 2018 when they first started taking Euros. It's also known that Jetwin keeps balances in many fiat currencies.

Since Sportsbet started with cryptos and had a presence here prior to accepting fiat currencies, their rating was kept up in this thread. Cryptocurrencies are accounting for less and less of sportsbet's business. Because of that, I think it's best to just put them in the fiat class.

There has been plenty of poster input on sportsbet that had a great influence on their rating. Here are some other reasons for their final rating.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.3020

"

1. Margins - The margins (odds) at Sportsbet are very high. It's almost impossible for a player to overcome that type of hold with vanilla lines.

2. Self exclusion - When a player asks for self-exclusion, Sportsbet steers the player towards taking a temporary ban.

3. Areezy - Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play. Areezy has given me permission to look into his account. If there is something that is missing, please PM.

4. KYC/AML - There are rare cases where KYC may be required. Sportsbet is heavy handed on KYC and confiscated 21.5 BTC form a player of which 15 BTC was from his deposit.

5. Double spend claims - Sportsbet should wait for 1 confirmation if they are going to confiscate funds for an "accused" double spend attempt.

6. Communication - A PM was sent to all books asking if they banned players from the UK or US. Every book replied within a day except Sportsbet."



1106  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 24, 2019, 03:37:36 AM
"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)
betbtc.co C (2014)
fortunejack.com C (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.            
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)
playbetr.com C- (2019)

"D" rated books  
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)                      
1107  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 24, 2019, 03:31:56 AM
Now that Sportsbet accepts fiat currency, they will be delisted. This thread rates bitcoin only books.
1108  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 20, 2019, 07:15:16 PM
I think the biggest problem with sportsbet.io was the support and how slow it was or how it didn't even helped out that much at all. You can have many currencies, you can have 100+ currencies that wouldn't matter, you can partner with Watford or even real Madrid/Manchester united or whatever big club and it still wouldn't matter, you can basically do whatever you want in casinos speed or promotions and what not and even that wouldn't matter.

If support is actually better than the website will get better ranking from me as well but if the support is like it used to be and basically one reply in 2 weeks which helps nobody then I am sorry but even D- is too much for you, I had only one bad deal with sportsbet and that was due to support not helping me out and now I am afraid to try again to see if its better, you are asking us to give you our money with deposits to test if your support is better and that is a bit risky too.
Thanks for the input beerlover.
1109  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 19, 2019, 06:13:10 PM
Hi Guys,

I want to ask you all to come back and have a look at us again -  www.sportsbet.io

We have been working on as many aspects to the customer service experience across all areas of the sportsbook environment.

Site-speed, Prices, Customer Service, Promotions. We now accept 14+ currencies and have live chat 24/7 in 10+ languages.

I firmly believe you will all appreciate the fact that we would no longer be graded D- for what we have now.
This is also not the end of our journey, more in fact its the start of another journey to make sportbetting Fun Fast & Fair

In major news, we have signed up with English Premier League Club Watford as their main sponsor and partner for the next 3 years. This is a big financial and emotional investment on our behalf and a massive endorsement from a top tier English and European Football club that has been around for 120 years.

Also, please catch up with our other BitcoinTalk Thread and see the reviews and feedback we have been getting from our lovers and haters around the forums Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.new#new

all the best, and as always, any questions, just hit me between the eyes..

thanks guys.

Steve,
Sportsbet.io
Main Partner Watford Football Club


Steve - thanks for the update. I'll throw in some plays and do more research shortly.
1110  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 15, 2019, 10:37:26 PM
1111  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 10, 2019, 11:26:52 PM

is it a nice list and a cataloging of gambling sites but based on what a site enters in a rank / category rather than another? user ratings? if not who judges this ranking?...
Different criteria is used for all gambling review and ratings guide. Every player also must consider what's most important to their needs.

The most important category for this rating's guide is security. Players must feel secure that they will be paid. Other categories used are payout times, customer service, slow pays, markets available, margins used, response by books to this thread.

This is a player's thread although book input is wanted and appreciated. Us players have to look out for each other.
1112  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 10, 2019, 07:05:31 PM
"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)
betbtc.co C (2014)
fortunejack.com C (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.            
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)

"D" rated books  
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)                      
sportsbet.io D- (2016)          


email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.
email: customer_support@mbet.io................................. Reduced juice: No
email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance....................Reduced juice: No
email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines.
email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No
1113  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: June 06, 2019, 08:05:45 AM
Fortunejack opened in 2014 as a casino and recently added a sportsbook. For the most part the ratings here only include the sportsbook although casino problems are reviewed. There are a couple of problems at the casino although it's nothing that seems would carry over to the sportsbook. Askgamblers is a nice place to visit if you are concerned about casino problems at Fortunejack since both sides are presented along with input of an arbitrator.

1. Deposits - 1 confirmation.
2. Withdrawals - Normally under 1 hour.
3. Currency - BTC and 7 other cryptocurrencies.
4. Markets - A large selection of pregame as well as live betting.
5. Odds - the odds are competitive in most markets. There are a couple where the margins are high.
6. Interface - easy to navigate.
7. Sign up- Email and country required.
8. VPN - play allowed.
9. Location - Curacao.
10. 2FA - player's choice.

Cons:
A. Prior to making a withdrawal 50% of the deposit amount must be wagered.
B. Customer service: My personal experience was rough. I had problems logging into my account. Although live chat is available I kept getting referred to support email. It took a few days and numerous communications back and forth to resolve the issue. There is another player in FJ's BCT thread that is currently having a similar problem.
C. Winnings are limited to 10 000mBTC. All winnings above that amount will not be honored.
D. If multiple tickets are placed on the same wager, FJ has the right to cancel all wagers except for the first wager.

Although new, there haven't been major problems in the sportsbook. That said, there doesn't seem to be major reasons to use Fortunejack over the top rated books. Because the sportsbook is new and the cons listed above, Fortunejack opens up with a rating of "C".
1114  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: May 30, 2019, 03:40:17 AM
I'd like to add FortuneJack with a "B" rating, for now.

It's been live for a little while now and has been working, most of the time, flawlessly. I'm just missing some eSports and other specialty markets otherwise they'd be up there at "A" for me.
Thanks Hhampuz. Is anyone else playing there?

Sorry for being so late in getting up a rating. There was a snag signing up but I'm currently playing there.
1115  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: May 30, 2019, 03:34:54 AM
Add Betlake.com to NR.
1116  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: May 21, 2019, 07:36:36 PM
I made a deposit with Fortunejack on Saturday. For some reason I was locked out of my account and haven't placed any wagers yet. 3 days later, despite a multitude of conversations via chat and email, Fortunejack has been unable to allow me access to my account. For that reason, the Fortunejack review has been put on hold.
1117  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: May 21, 2019, 07:33:28 PM

So Nitrogen is the best for E-Sports?
Is there any other site you suggest for betting on E-Sports I just visit the site and it seem's that they are only hosting CS and DOTA2 ,
I wonder if you could suggest me a site where I could bet on LOL(League of Legends) .

Unfortunately I'm not that familiar with E-Sports betting. Can anyone jump in with good books for E-Sports?
1118  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Reviews - Reviews and guides to online coin gaming on: May 20, 2019, 05:36:34 AM
Most of us really love to gamble but some of us wants to stay anonymous and crypto casino is the real sollution for it.
The problem here is that certain casinos ask for KYC which makes us give up our anonymity which is why I always stick to non-KYC casinos only and recommend others do the same. I have no problem filling in KYC when absolutely necessary(Exchanges for extra security and higher withdrawal limits etc).

By giving up your identity that means you are ready to be traced if something happened. If you are not care of this thing then you may provide this but the problem is, some of them can misused your identity to do some other cyber crime that we never know. This is the reason for keeping stay low and gamble with only site that never asked for KYC that reputable. I do not think it is really hard to find one
I agree why would we even stick to those gambling sites that requires KYC if there are so many other sites that let's us gamble without asking for personal information?
This is why we choose to gamble with crypto to hide our personal information to use the anonymity of crypto.
I agree with those not liking books that are heavy on KYC. It's one reason why Nitrogen and Betcoin are rated 1 and 2.
1119  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Reviews - Reviews and guides to online coin gaming on: May 20, 2019, 05:35:04 AM
This post is really old,  but surprisingly the website still functions, meaning the idea works.  I wonder if it's still being updated.  Looks like the last time a gambling website was reviewed was October 2, 2018

The site is well done but the sportsbooks are outdated. Here's a sportsbook rating guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 .
1120  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: May 10, 2019, 05:59:08 PM
Please post a review if you are playing at a NR (non-rated) book.
I can't wait to see the first reviews for the fortunejack and playbetr sportsbooks.

Fortunejack specially is a big casino that is known by everyone so they will start with some upside to say the least, whatever they have managed to build on their casino (the trust, the funding, the support etc etc) will be related to their sportsbook as well and I doubt they will run a great casino but a bad sportsbook or if people feel they ran a bad casino it will be a great sportsbook but nevertheless there is still no noise coming out of that place for sportsbook, maybe their users do not like sportsbook betting too much but it would be great to get it ranked and see how they are.

Plus, their sportsbook is new but their website is old so when ranking which date will you look for ranking? Will it have maximum of A because they are old or will be max C to B levels because of how new the sportsbook is?
davinchi-  Thanks for the post. I'm hoping for some user reviews on Fortunejack and playbetr. Of course I'll read other forums and media along with personally experiences. My guess is two weeks for a review to go up. Because the sportsbook is new at Fortunejack with minimal history on the sportsbook, they definitely won't open as an "A". The requirements to meet an "A" are stringent.
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