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1121  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: May 01, 2019, 05:29:56 AM
Please post comments, reviews, praises and complaints here.

Although this is a player's thread, books are encouraged to post. The only rule for books is to keep their conversation to their own book and not that of another book.

"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)
betbtc.co C (2014)                
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)

"D" rated books  
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)                      
sportsbet.io D- (2016)          


email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.
email: customer_support@mbet.io................................. Reduced juice: No
email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance....................Reduced juice: No
email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines.
email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No



"F" rated books
Anybet.eu .
Ball2Win F .
BetCas F .
betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018.
betmatch.is closed 2018.
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
Bitbook F closed.
Bitbm F .
Bitcoinsport F closed
Bitcoinlivebets F closed
bitsport.bet closed 4/11/18
Blockbet F closed
BTCBonusBook (2015).
Casinoco (2015).
Coinbet F
Coindrafts F (2014) closed.
DirectBet closed 5/21/17
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Powerbet F (2016)
Sportbet.im F closed.
StakeBTC F closed
Webetcoins F (2014) closed.
webet7.com closed

* Reduced juice is better than 1.91 (-110).

Exchanges
fairlay.com (2014)

Prediction Markets
augur.net
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)

Mutual Betting
Onehash.com


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NR
- not rated.
betbit
betopen.co
bitgame.online
fortunanejack.com
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
mBitcasino
playbetr.com
uobet.com
zombiewager.com


Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
1122  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETCOIN.AG - #1 Casino, Sportsbook, Dice, BEST LIVE - NBA NHL Playoffs -est 2013 on: April 27, 2019, 06:18:22 PM
NBA and NHL Playoffs

Which playoffs do you like more?

www.Betcoin.ag/sports

The NBA Playoffs and NHL Playoffs are at Betcoin Sports where you will find the most markets live and prematch on all games.  Betcoin Sports features numerous deposit options and 24/7 customer support to make sure all of your questions get answered.

Experience one of the best since 2013 at:

www.Betcoin.ag





For me, there's nothing better than playoff hockey especially when it goes to OT.
1123  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 25, 2019, 07:11:51 PM
Is anyone playing at playbetr? If so, please post a review.
1124  Economy / Gambling / Re: Top sport betting Site that pays in bitcoin on: April 22, 2019, 08:25:54 PM
There are lots of good betting sites that pay bitcoin but you should do your own research about it. You could play on the site where you're more comfortable. I would suggest you use stake.com because they offer exciting games with promising prizes and bonuses. You could check and try it and I assure you that you'll enjoy this site.

It seems that you did not even read the title of this thread, as you would not suggest stake here as stake is not even a sportsbetting site.
Indeed there is a plan from stake to add sports betting but you should not suggest it now.

Never heard of bitcoinrush.io before,

Bitcoinrush formerly known as casinobitco is actually one of the oldest bitcoin sports betting site. Indeed it is not so popular compared to other sites like betcoin.ag or nitrogensports. Maybe because they do not offer massive promotions or advertisement like other sites so people are not really aware of the site.

One nice thing about those three, Nitrogen, Betcoin and Bitcoinrush is that they rarely ask for KYC. Payouts at Nitrogen and Betcoin average around 15 minutes.
1125  Economy / Gambling / Re: Top sport betting Site that pays in bitcoin on: April 22, 2019, 06:08:02 AM
If you want to find a sports gambling site then I would suggest a site that I think is of a higher quality than others and that the site is :
"nitrogensports.eu"
"betcoin.ag"
"bitcoinrush.io"

The three sites were established since 2013 and accept various sports bets in the form of bitcoin.

Very good books. Sports offered by each:

1126  Economy / Gambling / Re: Does instant deposits and instant withdrawals exist in crypto sportsbooks? on: April 18, 2019, 07:38:23 AM
These 3 books come close to meeting your requirements.

Nitrogen    A+ : deposits 1 confirmation, withdrawals 15 minutes.
Betcoin     A   : deposits 1 confirmation, withdrawals 15 minutes.
Sportsbet  D- : deposits 0 confirmations, withdrawals instant. In some cases after KYC information is submitted and reviewed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

1127  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 18, 2019, 01:22:38 AM
1128  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 17, 2019, 07:04:50 PM
From that list just posted above, 1xbit is another heavy handed KYC site. They also offer a second set of lines with increased margins to those lucky enough to be winning.
1129  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 16, 2019, 08:56:37 PM
Sportsbet and Cloudbet seem to be the books that ask for KYC the most.

Saw many cases where cloudbet asked for KYC so yeah , but for sportsbet they don't usually ask for KYC unless they suspect something going on like avoiding betting limits , suspecting double spending or abusing the promotions like the price boost
they ask for KYC for large balances as well , but I know some guys who had like 0.5 BTC with them and they didn't ask them for KYC

At how much do the sport betting sites usually start getting worried and request for your ID and documents?  I bet small, so I wouldn't know.

And I've never seen so much people complain about it than here at BCT.  In online poker it's like just another thing to do if you wanna start playing at some site and be able to withdraw your money.  Lol.
I think part of the reason that you hear about it more here than elsewhere is that BCT doesn't concern fiat books and poker rooms. KYC makes sense if playing in fiat currency.
1130  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 16, 2019, 08:52:41 PM


Very rare. There was a 6 figure payout USD. They asked just to make sure they had the right person since it was a substantial amount and they didn't want to send it to the wrong person.

Right person for what though ? They don't really have our personal information like Names/addresses. So they won't be able to confirm much from just a random ID, and know if its the same person who created the account.
I'm not 100% sure of all the checks that were done but Nitrogen but payment was made.
1131  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 16, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
As a truly anonymous platform, BetBTC doesn't make KYC procedures, even for bigger withdrawals.

Even if there are suspicious activities, asking for personal documentation would not help us figure out anything.

From what I understand, sites require KYC to follow certain regulations that allow them to operate. This is because most of them are registered at a country which requires them to do so. Is your site not part of a country that asks for it ?

Majority of sites operating with bitcoin do not require KYC.
When they do (require), they would ask for Id on all withdrawals.

KYCs required on big withdrawals are not part of regulation, because regulation applies to all accounts whatever the withdrawal amount. (You cannot withdrawal $5 from a fiat sportsbook without being identified)

In short, asking kyc on withdrawals is just an intimidation measure /win some time imo
I agree with the above. KYC is a form of intimidation that may lead to an excuse for a book not to pay. One reason that I play at bitcoin books is to remain anonymous.
1132  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 15, 2019, 10:02:34 PM
Sportsbet and Cloudbet seem to be the books that ask for KYC the most. It's been a problem for players. Some innocent players seem to have been caught in the net.
1133  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 15, 2019, 07:29:09 PM

"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

Nitrogen and betcoin.ag is the most trusted sportsbook  for me. I gamble in these sites and find no problem doing so. I don't know if you have had any problems with this site but I don't. I love betting in Nitrogensports most, I feel safe.
Thanks for your input r1a2y3m4
1134  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 15, 2019, 07:27:52 PM
I feel Nitrogen needs a downgrade. They are now offering worse odds than before and are doing selective downgrading based on the winnings. After 2 good weeks of betting, I am now getting terrible odds as compared to other sites on there, and I think its just accounts that have good winnings experiencing this.

Thanks for the input vennali. We need more reviews by all. From what I'm seeing the lines at Nitrogen seem to be the same. Using the NBA as an example, anything better than -110 (1.91) is considered reduced. Nitrogen is -108 (1.93) and I think that has remained constant. Payouts are fast. KYC rarely needed.

If we were to rate the top ten books 1-10, Nitrogen would have to be #1.

So Nitrogin can require KYC?
Ok good to know.

Very rare. There was a 6 figure payout USD. They asked just to make sure they had the right person since it was a substantial amount and they didn't want to send it to the wrong person.
1135  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 15, 2019, 04:13:49 PM
I feel Nitrogen needs a downgrade. They are now offering worse odds than before and are doing selective downgrading based on the winnings. After 2 good weeks of betting, I am now getting terrible odds as compared to other sites on there, and I think its just accounts that have good winnings experiencing this.

Thanks for the input vennali. We need more reviews by all. From what I'm seeing the lines at Nitrogen seem to be the same. Using the NBA as an example, anything better than -110 (1.91) is considered reduced. Nitrogen is -108 (1.93) and I think that has remained constant. Payouts are fast. KYC rarely needed.

If we were to rate the top ten books 1-10, Nitrogen would have to be #1.
1136  Economy / Gambling / Re: Top sport betting Site that pays in bitcoin on: April 13, 2019, 03:41:50 AM
Updated:

"A" and "B" books are recommended.


"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B+ (2013)        

"C" rated books
mBet.io C+ (2017)
betbtc.co (2014) C              
anonibet.com  C- (2011)      
jetwin.ps C- (2013)

"D" rated books  
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)        
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)        
1xbit.com D (2016)                      
sportsbet.io D- (2016)          


email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes
email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes
email: admin@bitcoinrush.io..........................................Reduced juice: Yes.
email: customer_support@mbet.io................................. Reduced juice: No
email: info@anonibet.com.............................................Reduced juice: No
email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance....................Reduced juice: No
email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines.
email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes
email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.3160
1137  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 12, 2019, 02:19:18 AM
Good to see that sports books are allowed to defend themselves, and as the most recent complainer has shown,,, this is the most common way to cheat casinos, do double spends, I do not know why people still try to do it. Makes life difficult for the rest of us.

Anyway, I have a question, what is the difference between onehash and fairlay. One is mutual bet, other is exchange. But I feel like they are the same thing as PvP right?
That is why this place is the most objective place to look for when searching for a new place, honestly for me this is the place I always keep on checking because I love nitrogen sports and they are basically the best out there ever but I am also a bit of sick and want to find new places, however I won't until peep and other people here promote that place to higher degree as well, I tried all other places, I kinda enjoy bitcoinrush as well, sometimes they react quickly and give you money right away but as peeps knows I have seen my coins credited and withdrawn 20+ hours after my win as well.

So, I am just here to find a place that I can play basically. And if we are just going to not be objective and just do whatever we want and say whatever we want and lie about the sportsbooks than this place wouldn't be trustworthy. If a casino is right, we owe to public to actually say they are right, if they are wrong its our job to tell people casino is wrong, I know this topic is peeps place (lol) but if we could help him, why not.

Hey Raven, you're a great contributor here. This our thread, for all of us players.
1138  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 11, 2019, 07:27:07 AM
Good to see that sports books are allowed to defend themselves, and as the most recent complainer has shown,,, this is the most common way to cheat casinos, do double spends, I do not know why people still try to do it. Makes life difficult for the rest of us.

Anyway, I have a question, what is the difference between onehash and fairlay. One is mutual bet, other is exchange. But I feel like they are the same thing as PvP right?

With Fairlay, when a bet is matched, that is the betting line for the players. Onehash is similar to mutual betting in horse racing. The odds change according to bets made by all. The odds may change after a bet is made. The player's betting line isn't final until the match starts.
1139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best sports betting sites on: April 11, 2019, 01:32:26 AM
Hi peeps, this is exactly the type of topic that should not exists because yours already provide all the needed information. I still think bitcoinrush definitely worth at least A- levels so it could reach to A levels with others because honestly aside from timing issues they rarely have any issues with any customer and there are rarely ever any complaints about them, also the odds are one of the best if not the best in any sportsbook.

They are just a bit slow compared to other A places. On top of that cloudbet should not be a D+ by a big margin, those dudes keep having "should we pay this man his money or should we just hold it forever" discussions all the time, everyone keeps getting asked their KYC anytime they win and that is not acceptable, they should definitely be D- if not F and I honestly think F is better place for them. Nobody should play there.
I like bitcoinrush a lot although the withdrawal times are much slower than Nitrogen and Betcoin which is a reason for the separation. I'll look at Cloudbet some more since a downgrade does seem plausible. On another note, I agree 100% on your post on sportsbet that was posted in another thread.
1140  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: April 11, 2019, 01:16:19 AM
I am not going to lie that sounds a bit fishy at best. I am not going to defend the sportsbook at any given day and I always try to support the gambler first but looking at what information we have on our hands it would be understandable why the sportsbook would block your account.

First of all your name is menahem and the account you claim you do not have is called menahem911, secondly that menahem911 account they claim is yours and deny has played on their website and did a double spend and basically hurt the sportsbook, now looking at the situation you sent money there and without waiting played games and after 3 confirmations you tried to withdraw, which in real life could happen but also is a way many double spenders also use just to get away with.

Also, you claim to use VPN which could be the reason for looking suspicious but when you combine the fact that with your exact name someone did a double spending and you tried to withdraw as soon as you won and bet before the confirmation it all comes together for a suspicious defense. I am not saying you are lying but I can safely say it looks suspicious at best.

I agree with what you have posted.
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