Hi peeps, this is exactly the type of topic that should not exists because yours already provide all the needed information. I still think bitcoinrush definitely worth at least A- levels so it could reach to A levels with others because honestly aside from timing issues they rarely have any issues with any customer and there are rarely ever any complaints about them, also the odds are one of the best if not the best in any sportsbook.
They are just a bit slow compared to other A places. On top of that cloudbet should not be a D+ by a big margin, those dudes keep having "should we pay this man his money or should we just hold it forever" discussions all the time, everyone keeps getting asked their KYC anytime they win and that is not acceptable, they should definitely be D- if not F and I honestly think F is better place for them. Nobody should play there.
I like bitcoinrush a lot although the withdrawal times are much slower than Nitrogen and Betcoin which is a reason for the separation. I'll look at Cloudbet some more since a downgrade does seem plausible. On another note, I agree 100% on your post on sportsbet that was posted in another thread. |
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I am not going to lie that sounds a bit fishy at best. I am not going to defend the sportsbook at any given day and I always try to support the gambler first but looking at what information we have on our hands it would be understandable why the sportsbook would block your account.
First of all your name is menahem and the account you claim you do not have is called menahem911, secondly that menahem911 account they claim is yours and deny has played on their website and did a double spend and basically hurt the sportsbook, now looking at the situation you sent money there and without waiting played games and after 3 confirmations you tried to withdraw, which in real life could happen but also is a way many double spenders also use just to get away with.
Also, you claim to use VPN which could be the reason for looking suspicious but when you combine the fact that with your exact name someone did a double spending and you tried to withdraw as soon as you won and bet before the confirmation it all comes together for a suspicious defense. I am not saying you are lying but I can safely say it looks suspicious at best.
I agree with what you have posted. |
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Hello, I introduce myself, my name is Menahem. I deposited on the site ~50 mBTC, I played before the confirmation and I won about ~321 mBTC. So I waited for 3 confirmations before withdrawing my money. Once the 3 confirmations are passed (after 30 minutes). I'm trying to withdraw my money, but what's going on? They refuse my withdrawal and ask me to contact support. I contact the support and ask me to check my account. I agree to check my account and I send all the documents they ask me (ID card, selfie...) Once done after 20 hours of waiting, I receive an email telling me if I have a second account. I tell them no, I only have one account because it's the truth. They send me a message 2 hours later and say that I have created an account called "menahem911" and that it belongs to me. And that according to their rules, If someone has 2 accounts, balances will be blocked and his account banned. I still tell them that it is not my account that I have only one account called "carzobo". After 24 hours, they tell me that my account "carzobo" and blocked and the money suspended for making double spend on an account named "menahem911" that does not even belong to me. So at the end I find myself at 0.00 € without my base money and without my earnings. Nice scam, I advise you to avoid sportsbet.io, at your own risk. All Email message: https://pastebin.com/yjhRqeSDOfficial thread about this scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129981Cordially. Hi domixer, Do I have permission to inquire about your account? If so, I'll contact sportsbet regarding this dispute. Hi, request received and response given. thanks all. Steve, Sportsbet.io Thanks Steve. I appreciate your reply and information given. |
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Hello, I introduce myself, my name is Menahem. I deposited on the site ~50 mBTC, I played before the confirmation and I won about ~321 mBTC. So I waited for 3 confirmations before withdrawing my money. Once the 3 confirmations are passed (after 30 minutes). I'm trying to withdraw my money, but what's going on? They refuse my withdrawal and ask me to contact support. I contact the support and ask me to check my account. I agree to check my account and I send all the documents they ask me (ID card, selfie...) Once done after 20 hours of waiting, I receive an email telling me if I have a second account. I tell them no, I only have one account because it's the truth. They send me a message 2 hours later and say that I have created an account called "menahem911" and that it belongs to me. And that according to their rules, If someone has 2 accounts, balances will be blocked and his account banned. I still tell them that it is not my account that I have only one account called "carzobo". After 24 hours, they tell me that my account "carzobo" and blocked and the money suspended for making double spend on an account named "menahem911" that does not even belong to me. So at the end I find myself at 0.00 € without my base money and without my earnings. Nice scam, I advise you to avoid sportsbet.io, at your own risk. All Email message: https://pastebin.com/yjhRqeSDOfficial thread about this scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129981Cordially. Hi domixer, Do I have permission to inquire about your account? If so, I'll contact sportsbet regarding this dispute. |
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It is included under not rated, meaning people have to post their experiences here first,,, before a rating can be applied. Does this not make sense? Why not share your own experience with the book and then after a few people have given ratings, maybe OP can update to include it.
OP, does trust rating apply when people give their ratings? And if trust increases or lowers,,, does this have an effect? Random question:)
Poster experiences and input play a big role in the ratings. If there is negative trust, then that will be verified before affecting a rating. Books are questioned by PM prior to a rating being posted. They must also be receptive to answering questions on problems that posters may have with their book. Thank you for the reply. It is nice to know the ratings here are all counted against many factors. I think most of us in the gambling scene here are only normal and average people, no bad trust ratings and no good ones. The funny thing is that a lot of the people with opinions who are considered important,,, also have bad trust ratings. Thank you for keeping an eye out for everyone!  |
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Reminder to keep your money in the top books this weekend. After the NCAA finals, Super Bowl and World Cup are the most popular times for problems to occur.
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What about fortunejack..Why it is not included in ratings
It is included under not rated, meaning people have to post their experiences here first,,, before a rating can be applied. Does this not make sense? Why not share your own experience with the book and then after a few people have given ratings, maybe OP can update to include it. OP, does trust rating apply when people give their ratings? And if trust increases or lowers,,, does this have an effect? Random question:) Poster experiences and input play a big role in the ratings. If there is negative trust, then that will be verified before affecting a rating. Books are questioned by PM prior to a rating being posted. They must also be receptive to answering questions on problems that posters may have with their book. |
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I think that whole D thing is mainly due to the self exemption clause, they do not really let you go and if you win they just cancel your bet and if they win they just open up your account or keep it closed so they do it the way it works out best for them which is really not the way any sportsbook should go.
If a casino does anything even slightly shady they do get a bad grade here, for example there are sportsbooks at B and C levels that doesn't have any shady business, they are just not as good as the A ones and thats it, it could be timing of withdrawals, it could be bad odds it could be anything related to how it is run but not a shady business, the moment it moves to shady business practices they go down to D and even F, so sportsbet should be even happy about not being F to be honest.
This is a very good summation of the grading process. |
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Hi Peeps, Im not sure what the go is with your post here.. I have already personally replied to all the listed points in this public forum previously. If there is anything else NEW that pops up, please let me know. I'd be more than happy if you copy and paste my responses from before if you wish, but I won't be replying to this comment again on a monthly basis. If any urgent issues or request arise for anybody, please contact our 24/7/365 ( 366 next year ) Support.. we now cover over 15 languages and are continuing to invest in our customer 360-degree betting experience. All the best guys and stay up to date with our daily and weekly promotions.. especially our Casino Spins promotions which I believe are the only casino spins in the industry with NO WAGERING REQUIREMENT to withdraw. regards, Steve, Sportsbet.io See our more active interaction on the bitcointalk forum here ( It also has most of our promotion summaries too! ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4380Hi Sportsbet, I wasn't trying to hide your replies. I posted a link on where your answers started since there was more than one reply. Even though I'm in disagreement with what has been said, it's appreciated that you chime in. |
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I see everyone here is rating sportsbet.io as a D book and I try to figure that out. Is it because of their previous problems they had with big withdrawals? Because right now it seems like they are one of the best sportsbook existing offering best available for all kind of sports from multiple countries and they also offer instant withdrawals which not every sportsbook offer. So why is it rated as a D?
There was discussion here where sportsbet chimed in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.3020 . I posted the following: 1. Margins - The margins (odds) at Sportsbet are very high. It's almost impossible for a player to overcome that type of hold with vanilla lines. 2. Self exclusion - When a player asks for self-exclusion, Sportsbet steers the player towards taking a temporary ban. 3. Areezy - Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play. Areezy has given me permission to look into his account. If there is something that is missing, please PM. 4. KYC/AML - There are rare cases where KYC may be required. Sportsbet is heavy handed on KYC and confiscated 21.5 BTC form a player of which 15 BTC was from his deposit. 5. Double spend claims - Sportsbet should wait for 1 confirmation if they are going to confiscate funds for an "accused" double spend attempt. 6. Communication - A PM was sent to all books asking if they banned players from the UK or US. Every book replied within a day except Sportsbet. |
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OP do you have news on Jetwin? I still can not log in to sportsbook
Sports betting will be available some time this week. |
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There are speculations about stake/primedice starting a new sportsbook, I know it probably won't be anytime soon but it will certainly happen and that excites me more than any of these websites, even nitrogen where I play most of my games doesn't come close to anything stake/primedice team could put out in my mind.
I hope it will be good on odds because I know the trust and speed and support all will be amazing, all there is left is the odds right now and as long as its not like a premium level I would be even fine with a slight bit of worse odds than nitrogen at this point. Plus fortunejack started a sportsbook if I am not wrong and I do not see them on your list at all, not just at high but not even on low, maybe someone can tell us how they are doing over there and if it is any good or not.
upsidedown - thanks for the information. Fortunejack has been added to NR (not rated). I'll play there to check it out. If anyone else plays there, please post experiences. |
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It's strongly recommended to only play at "A" and "B" books at this time. Fortunately no books went under after the Super Bowl. The second most popular time for a book to run is after the NCAA March Madness.
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I just checked betbtc. There are few things that caught my eye from the first moment I saw it. First of all it takes a while to load the main page, not huge time but like 10-15 seconds at most so do not be worried but after that whatever you click just opens up really fast, no loading time, no page turning, just pure instant result. That fast pace is really good to be honest.
Design seems sleek but too simple, being minimalistic and being too simple are two very different things, if you are going for minimalistic this isn't the way. Odds are not horrible I will give you that. I think with time and more and more people gambling there it will show how the withdrawal times are, if they have a decent withdrawal time on top of all of this I would give them a C+.
Thanks fullhdpixel, it's appreciated. |
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