Thanks for the info.
I heard that Quark could e GPU mined but that no one had done it yet. Any info on that? links?
Thanks again,
IAS

Sorry, but 20 billion coins so far with another 80 billion on the way is not attractive.
All for alt coins, but something is wrong here...
Anyway, another nice experiment.

It will work itself out. Not a big deal. This happens with a lot of the Cryptos, they are a danger to BTC's price, not so much to BTC.
An interesting and needed test for any Crypto...
Read an interesting post with how it had been going on with LTC recently, up until yesterdays breakout.
Anyway, more distribution, may take a while to work itself out but good in the long run.
Hopefully we don't go much lower, nice hammer forming...

I wanted to support the Quark network and that is a CPU only coin as far as I know. Also, PeerCoin I think, but not sure on that one.

Was looking at an AMD FX-8350 as the CPU. Wonder if there is a MB that can handle two?
But probably will go with a small MB that takes one and just run linux on it.

Did you read what you quoted? The answer is right there.

My problem are two things:
1 - These Scrypt ASIC miners are what, 2X better than current rigs and in 6 months time when they are shipped you could make that money back by buying a rig now. The nice thing is the lower energy. Nice rig to just support the network, from an energy perspective. Oh, and the difficulty is rising, in 6 months, oh boy...
2 - Shipping from India. They are essentially creating a can of worms with Customs. Instead of them taking a few large boxes, there will now be hundreds or thousands of boxes through the mail system, to many countries, etc. Would be much easier for the customer, more efficient, to ship from the UK, not India. Lots of problems can develop from here. Also customs fees, oh boy.

Bammmnnn!!! Great news and great start to the new year.

IAS

The central aspect in BTC's birth chart is the Saturn in Virgo in the 3rd house opposition to Uranus in Pisces in the 9th. I think, in mid to large part, there in lies your answer.
I do think BTC will come around but according to that opposition, we have a bit of a battle on our hands (and we are in it.)

IAS

I had not read it but gave it a read and am still not clear on it! These titles are just getting a bit old and I once again was only partly pulled in.

Regarding India and China, first India, I think they are trying to get a grasp on what BTC is. They seem a bit against it.
China on the other hand, and shockingly so, seem to just want to separate it from their money system and categorize it as a commodity. I'm still shocked by it.
It will take time to play out and I think the run continues once things get clear in China (then later, much later, India). Of course, it can get ugly in either case, but at least with regards to China, I'm not so worried.

Your perspective on India and China?

Regarding Mike and the Casascius coins, Mike just chose not to get the licensing. (Which is proving great for those who already have his coins as the price has of course shot up. But bad for newcomers).
Titan has the licensing and they have also raised prices A LOT. Go figure. I do think Mike will get the licensing, at least in some states as he was doing just too well imo.

SEC stopping BTC? LOL, please, this isn't just about America, much less regulations...

I think people just attack astrology and so it is natural to sometimes defend it. Some good exchange in the meantime as well as those attacking it just keep the thread up high for others to see. Benefits everyone. 

Let me touch on something once again, that you are alluding to. BTC's rising sign is Leo. It is ruled by the Sun. Anything having to do with BTC's Sun is potentially big. I say potentially because it depends on the individual that BTC is, what it has already been through, what it needs to work on, etc. I will approach it like a person. When you look at your chart, key planets that stand out in the birth chart, often stand out during transits (if issues haven't been worked out).

During the meteoric rise last year - 2013 (first one in March mostly, say March 12th on), the Sun was going through Aries - another fire sign, an aggressive one! When you look at BTC's chart (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60zczsg2013-02-01zeg2013-05-31ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gMACDzi2gSStochzi3gMFIzi4gStochRSIzv) the big rise started a few days after March 12th. And the pop at the top, started around 5 or so days before the Suns move out of Aries.

Perhaps of more or less equal significance, Pluto "in the sky" was starting to conjunct BTC's Sun. (Within around 2 degrees). Pluto, as we know is about death, rebirth, re-generation, etc. One might say it is symbolic of the 8th house, which is also about money quite often. The crash started around the time that Pluto went stationary, then retrograde over BTC's sun. Again, this is relative, if whatever this energy symbolized by BTC's Sun means and it changes, then the next time this transit happens it might be the same, less, more, etc. It is hard to analyze a Bitcoin. It is not a person to interact with. But we can still collect date for future use. AND we can look to these key dates as times to be careful and go with the trend (if trading). Personally I use astrology with TA. TA I rely on more, but I still listen to the astrology.

Anyway, Pluto is once again closing in on BTC's Sun right now. So what does it mean? If it follows last year, it will mean a rise and then a drop. But we don't know what energy has already been worked through and what needs to be worked through. But Pluto, to me, is THE most powerful planets (even though it is a planetoid if you wish) and should be watched. Pluto will be at 11°35' on Jan 10th. That is the same spot that Pluto was at last year to top things off and start the crash. Not saying it happens again, for their are other planets at work here.

In BTC's birth chart Pluto is conjunct (4 degrees) Mars (symbolic of Aries). Right now, Mars is on BTC's IC (3rd/4th house Cusp) - a powerful place.

Uranian, with regard to your Jupiter call, yes, spot on. Jupiter magnifies what ever it touches and generally is the most benevolent of the planets. You want it in tough places, it helps swing things around, potentially anyway. (Jupiter is also in BTC's 6th house, an important house in light of BTC's service to society.) I'll give the opposition from Jan 5th to the first week of February though. It mostly is sitting on 13 degrees (BTC's sun) that whole time, but I'll give it 2 degrees to each side. I think this is very good (in and of itself), but we will see. But it is adding to this Pluto transit, but I think it is softening it. It isn't Mars per say, where that would just straight out magnify Pluto, it is after all it's lower vibration in many circles.

If I were to guess I would expect fireworks soon. Pluto likes to stamp out things like Greed and I see a lot of that on the forums. Jupiter benevolizes what it touches. Interesting they are both hitting the sun at the same time. What will it mean? What will give?  I agree with Vokains post btw...

IAS

I've gone quite deep into astrology. Deeper than I care to share online but suffice to say, look an ye shall find. But you got to go deep.
Can be quite the shocker, Enlightener, etc.
 

Those are money instruments and are still essentially working with money.
I was talking about a time, on the horizon, when man doesn't quite feel the need to have power over others with money.
And when that happens, we won't really need money. Money, is a bit of a relic or primitive thing.
Which is ironic, when you think of it...

Its about sharing

All the best to you. Be careful, I heard money destroys people. Makes them insensitive, etc.

Lots of Luv,
Don't forget,
Its about sharing 

But what does legally responsible really mean? I mean, look at Wochovia and HSBC, both of them were found guilty of laundering drug money. And it was close to 1 Trillion dollars between them (I've seen that number mentioned). Further, it was clear (due to the amount and the physical setup in the banks!) that they were complicit in it. But, they were "too big to fail" as the lie goes. Let's face it, LARGE banks in the U.S.A. are immune from real prosecution. Yeah, they will pay a penalty, but when the penalty doesn't deter the "reward" they will just continue. Their fine was like fining me .20 for speeding, or .05 for riding the bus without a ticket. It was like an invitation to continue.

Now, I can see your argument being true for smaller banks. But they don't run things. 

Not meaning to get off topic, but if we are still using BTC in 2140 we have failed as a species. BTC is a step in the right direction. I don't see how it can be an answer. (In the short term yes, but not long term.

LOL at the bold.

It is certainly and interesting ride. I just get the feeling that by the time they really can mount a good argument against BTC (and the Cryptos), it will be too late. And actually, I think that ship has sailed.
But how they will attempt to co-opt things (their only real chance)?. With transparency, they will fail. Sort of ironic, we all want privacy, but I see transparency
as being "their" downfall...

No where did I see "Not Happening", nor do I see a post by Theymos here. So, to answer your question, it would be "that part". I have no idea what you are referencing.

I really had no idea that asking a question, that I thought was actually helpful in the end, would be such a bad thing. I feel like I unknowingly asked the mother of all questions that is not allowed to be asked (and I should have known), as some of the responses are out of left field and I don't understand them and the hate.

Not sure why you are being so unfriendly to me about my question either. Does saying things with reference to "stupidland" really help out here? Look at my post history, I'm not a trouble maker at all. Perhaps you are grouping me with others.

So, if I am to understand your post correctly, essentially, you are saying that this alt forum is by design disorganized as they really don't even want talk about other Cryptos? I love BTC, am behind it but don't see that perspective as doing anything but eventually coming back to bite us in the behind.

Its about sharing

digitalindustry - It seems you would have a better idea than anyone here, regarding the question I posed on the page before. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg4237501#msg4237501


Can you answer this, add some direction, etc?

Appreciated,
IAS

Thanks, I am not sure I knew of that forum. And of course I never saw that thread, if it was on this forum, because, by now, it is 30 pages down...

Anyway, we have this alt sub-forum here. I like bitcointalk.org and don't really want to go elsewhere. Why not just better organize this sub-forum? Who does it hurt?
Just seems like the logical next step...

Thanks for adding that!

The western mind wants to know how something works and if it can't understand "how", then it often either "isn't possible" or "must be something else" - LOL.