Such down,
So dip,
Pray to Karhu and weep.

I have been trying to learn about borrowing against my satoshis. Someday in the future I hope to have that problem.    I know that "not your keys, not your coin".  What is a good  place to inquire? I've read about Block-fi, but not many others.

Harvard Study Explodes Myths About ‘Vaccines’ Stopping the Spread – But It’s Even Worse Than That
https://beckernews.com/harvard-study-explodes-myths-about-vaccines-stopping-the-spread-but-its-even-worse-than-that-43431/


Well duh, as if we can't deduce that ourselves...

I know you guys are much familiar with F words. Don't put these words in my mouth.
Don't force me to talk with you that way.

Congratulations !!!

Part of my ignore list. Fuck off!!

Fucking retards. Good grief.

Bitstamp's Knoten hat eine Kapazität von "nur" 25,5 BTC wobei auch schwer zu sagen ist wieviel davon tatsächlich von Bitstamp stammt und wieviel davon Incoming Capacity ist.

Die beiden Bitfinex Knoten die auch tatsächlich operativ eingesetzt werden haben jeweils ~250 BTC Kapazität (Incoming + Outgoing), dh. mit einer Kapazität von 1000 BTC (Kapazität -- nicht Eigenkapital!) sollte man auch als größerer Exchange relativ weit kommen.

Tatsächlich dürfte es halt mehr eine Frage der Motivation und Priorisierung sein. Solange die Kunden nach NFTs und den neuesten Altcoins schreien ist Lightning Support relativ egal. Tatsächlich wird es einem Binance recht gut gelegen kommen wenn die Leute durch die Withdrawal Fee von ~20 EUR (unabhängig vom Zustand des Mempools) davon abgeschreckt werden ihre BTC abzuziehen. Da muss man dann ja nicht auch noch extra Arbeitsaufwand in etwas reinstecken das dafür sorgen könnte das die Leute weniger Geld am Exchange lassen, vor allem wenn man seine eigene Smartchain pushen möchte.

Aber genug geranted meinerseits

Ein paar Börsen gibt's ja eh schon:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357314.0

Wobei z.B. Bitstamp zwar einen Node am Laufen hat, aber noch keine Ein- und Auszahlungen über LN anbietet (zumindest konnte ich die Option nicht finden).

Kraken hatte es für Anfang 2021 geplant, aber meines Wissens gibt's an der Front nachwievor kein Update.

I was close to commenting upon this idea earlier.. and surely it seems to be that there is a kind of tendency for disingenuine posters (or maybe sometimes just distracted posters) to get caught up upon previous tops and to use the previous tops as their measuring points regarding where we have been, where we are at and where we might be going.  Maybe a disproportionate focus on the tops allow for the presentation of more extreme views and just to lead the topic into nonsensical directions (even if there might be some factual truths within the framework).

So, yes.. there is a truth that bitcoin prices for this particular top of $69k had so far ONLY reached about 3.5x of the December 2017 top (which was $19,666).

On another note, I am thinking that a fair representation of the start of this particular bull cycle would be around $4,200, and surely some claims of randomness can be thrown in my direction too.. but I will maintain a believe that $4,200 is a kind of ballpark starting off figure for this particular bull cycle and that the cycle had largely started right around April 1, 2019 (even though we could not really feel too confident about the start of the cycle until around mid-May 2019).   So, our high so far for this cycle seems to be around 16.4x from its base.. which surely is way smaller than the 2013 cycle and the 2017 cycle, which ended up around more than 100x and around 78x respectively.  

If this cycle ends with only 16.4x, the that would be a decent amount of disappointment for a lot of BTC accumulators/HODLers who seem to have been expecting a bit more for this cycle (including yours truly), but even a 16.4x price appreciation is still not any kind of major disappointment - absent figuring out where we would be going from here (presuming that this cycle is actually over, which does NOT seem likely but we surely cannot rule it out because having this cycle over would likely have greater than 40% odds of actually playing out that way.. from my quasi-layman's overview).

By the way, another ball park framing from my perspective would be that current odds of going below $10k probably would have less than 1% odds, below $20k less than 5% odds and below $30k less than 20% odds... and another dynamic is actually to go below those various price thresholds as a kind of spike down, and another dynamic would be to actually be able to stay below certain price thresholds.. and in any event Billy nocoiners desires to discuss sub $10k as if it were really any kind of meaningful possibility seems to be quite a fantasy whether we are either referring to sustainability or even short term spikes (and sure we did see one exchange (BinanceUS) have a fluke short term spike to around $8k just about 2 months ago, and surely that is a kind of fluke of relatively illiquid exchanges, rather than any kind of a meaningful reflection on the overall BTC price support thresholds).

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10k incoming.
Lol at 69k the cycle top. Not even 4 x of last cycle high.

Yes and no  
It's one of the most retarded states in a middle european country. Full lumberjack territory  
But when you live more away from society, it's actually really nice. A lot of nature, simple people.
You could hike for the rest of your life over hundreds of mountain pastures in the warm seasons, swim in dozens of nearby crystal clear lakes, look at the milky way in the many clear, dark nights and much more. Winter is dominated by alpine sports, if you're into it.

Maybe I should retire to wherever you are.

No fucking assholes about. No screaming imbeciles.

Seems peaceful and pleasant as long as you have good heat at home.

As long as the owner of the bottom is a consenting adult, touching is fine I think.

That may be so. But I can't shake the fact that I keep corrupting some of you with my ways. And that is more then I needed. Even if it is just to discredit one another, to make 'feel rank above status tangible'.

We are all shared knowledge, we are all observe history.      

We will go up again when most plebs have lost hope. We might even dip below $40,000 but then the rocket to $100,000 will ignite. Moon in Q2 or Q3 2022. The 4 year cycles are over, this time is different.

So.... $74K before Christmas??                

I am opening a 100x 1x leverage long position for €5k  

HFSP  

This is a fascinating dynamic to me.  The Chinese real estate meltdown stands to be the gasoline on the fire that has been burning since the similar situation 13 years ago (that Satoshi mentions in the genesis block).

And that will have possibly profound effects on ALL markets.

But, as we are aware bitcoin has a particular property that makes it a VERY attractive haven in the midst of a storm like the one I think we are watching unfold.

So, I think as this gets worse all markets drop as money is moved to risk off investments.  Bitcoin is still crazy speculative, and poised to be the most pristine risk-off asset in the world.

As much as I would like to see Bitcoin;s famous volatility fade a little?  I do not think we have seen the end of it yet.  But it should be interesting to watch.