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1321  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: February 18, 2017, 10:54:55 AM
Sorry but 12BTC ISNT a big amount. It's 11,000$ aprox.
Not big ? really ?
Big words from a newbie, who does not even have 0.00012 bitcoin[1], maybe in the early years of bitcoin it was nothing but in these days that amount of money could solve African hunger[2], so if you don’t know where to put that I would suggest donating that to charity or give it away in this forum.

[1] You don't know that.

[2] Meh. False. If it only costs $11,000 to solve African hunger, it should be solved by a long time already. $11,000 is not a huge money if you think of how much other people make from their day job. I kind of agree with the newbie guy that 12BTC is actually not that much especially if you're thinking of establishing a company. Nowadays, you can't just think locally when you're opening up a company. You have to think globally so your company would have much more potential.

$11,000 is not that much for business that's why there are startups and whatnot that are worth much more than this even though some startups end up in the dump.
1322  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: February 18, 2017, 10:42:12 AM
Yes you can manipulate the price of bitcoin if the 50% of the supply is in your hand because the supply is the key to manipulate it. The price of the bitcoin is based on the supply of it. If bitcoin supply is lessen the price will go up and the supply is growing the price will go down because of that the price is selling and buying bitcoin just like trading. If the 50% of the supply is at your wallet you can control it by buying and selling bitcoin.

50% thats too much bitcoins one can have. I've yet to seen anyone with 50% of bitcoins in their wallet.

Or... If someone is able to find holders that together have 50% of Bitcoin amount disponible in the world to work together on something they can have advantages over others. It's possible if there is a common sense of group work, but it wouldn't be a good thing for a decentralized currency that wants to run from any kind of centralization and control.

I doubt that. I can barely list 10 individuals that I know personally that are using bitcoins. Unless you have an agent working for you, you'll never find out who are the other people that have 50% of the bitcoins. You'll be able to find a website that has the list of the wallet addresses that holds the most bitcoins but how are you going to contact them with that information? We're all anonymous/pseudonymous here so..

Actually, people that holds bitcoin can only sell their coins to manipulate the bitcoin price. They are not going to be buying (unless they chose to) since they already have a huge amount of bitcoins. What you should do is find rich people in the world and encourage them to save their money in bitcoin form. That would surely increase the price.
1323  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 18, 2017, 10:22:51 AM
Yes I think so, dollar is going down

How can you be so sure about this? Ane reference on what you are saying? What is it based on? There is not a guarantee that dollar is going down mean while bitcoin price is rise and replace it because there is still many currency that have potential to beat dollar too. So for now bitcoin is still far more to go to replace bitcoin although its price is unbelievable high

Yes, I also believe that the dollar will remain stable, and Bitcoin will become popular. But, despite this, cryptocurrency not be able to replace the dollar. Cryptocurrency will be used as an alternative currency
currently Dollar will remain dominant but i think its dominance will decrease as soon as the number of bitcoin users willl increase it depend on the number of bitcoin users. if people will give preference to bitcoin instead of Dollar then the use of Dollar will defiantly decrease.
That's definitely a wish and I doubt if that will really happen, you just said that dollar will remain dominant and I do not find any valid reason why this dominant currency will be replace by a non currency. FYI, bitcoin was not recognize as currency by the government as it does not have the characteristics of a currency, it was only accepted as a payment system and as payment system it will not succeed with the support of real currencies.

People are starting to live more digitally. Personally, I spend most of my day in front of the computer socializing, talking to other people. I don't have that much social life IRL but I have a good one online. We're all connected online. Even some businesses only exists on the Internet and not in the physical world. Dollar can be replaced by bitcoin because of that reason. We're living on the Internet and we need money to spend on the Internet. Bitcoin is the Internet's money.

Bitcoin doesn't have to be recognized by the government to become a leading currency. It's on the Internet and the government doesn't have much power here. Only thing the government's recognition can do is shorten the mass adoption time. Even without the government, eventually we'll get there.
1324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin needs altcoins because ... on: February 18, 2017, 10:06:59 AM
It's crazy to think that Bitcoin needs Altcoins for survival. Do you realize that the price of Bitcoin would be MUCH higher if there wasn't any other side things that Bitcoin could be spent on[1]?

With the number of hacks and Bitcoin/Altcoin trading it's likely that the people on this forum lost large amounts of cash that could've been spent on Bitcoin[2].

The rich people don't really want to get involved with Bitcoin because there isn't any point to them in their point of view. They're kind of too old[3] so they just don't get it, it's beyond the similarity of the email service scenario from back in the days[4].

[1] Altcoin teams are spending tons of money on advertising. Anyone who has an altcoin would eventually have bitcoins. In other words, altcoins are the way for bitcoin to get advertised. There's not much advertisements about bitcoin, right? Only advertisements about bitcoin-related companies but not bitcoin itself.

[2] Supposed that there's no altcoin exchange sites, hackers would target bitcoin exchange sites instead and the number of bitcoins that would be lost because of that might even be larger because people's bitcoins are all in there. Unlike when there's altcoin exchanges, some of their money is on bitcoin exchange and some are in the altcoin exchange. Simply, altcoin exchange have actually saved some of our bitcoins somehow.

[3] Why are you thinking that all rich people are old? There are 16 year old kids nowadays that are richer than what we'll ever be.

[4] I actually think that rich people are more open-minded on things like this because they don't want to store all of their money on a single asset. Bitcoin is a good place to store some of your money.
1325  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: February 18, 2017, 09:39:14 AM
Preparing educational videos can be a good idea for passive income. You can publish it on sites like Udemy. Once you have created the content, you will have a passive income.

But I do not think you will make too much money. Good capital is required for a good passive income.
but I think you need a video that much for it. Well, it is not easy to seek passive income, but, I think this is not a bad idea, because so many people are getting passive income with the video, but by using youtube and google adsense. Well, if we work hard, for sure it would work.
Youtube is more and more terrible over years and they only pay a small money for people who upload their videos. That's why people prefer to use vine or rumble. As you can see, there are many Viners who earn thousands of dollar every month thanks to uploading videos on Vine. Therefore, working with Youtube is not a good idea at present


It's possible to earn good revenue when you create regular content for YouTube. Channels with 250-300k subscribers can earn 3-4k dollars a month.

Of course, the number of subscribers is not enough. You need to have a high rate of watching.
One of my friend decided to do the same thing like to create a youtube channel and upload his videos on that channel but after a longer tme he tod me that it is very hard to work on there and to collect some create videos and still he is earning nothing. I think it is better to create a blog and start earning from there with any good ad network.


If you want to earn money from Youtube, you need to be patient. You can not make money by uploading one or two videos. We need to produce content on a regular basis. You must upload at least 1 video every day[1]. If you can, upload 2 videos. You will not win much in the first 6-7 months. But then you will be a regular follower.

The actual gain will start after 6-7 months of time. Of course this time may be shorter. For example, you upload a video and you might be popular.

Youtube is a good way to make money today[2].

[1] Uploading 1 video a day is too much especially if you have other things to do. The only ones that I've seen so far that are able to post video every single day are vloggers which are just taking videos of their every day lives. Nothing especial about their videos, actually. It's just your normal "I went to mall" "I went to my friend's house" videos but they are fun to watch since it's as if someone's talking to you. Watching vlog videos is like going outside and having fun but all virtually.

Actual youtubers that have actual niche only post after a couple of days because they have to think of their next topic, prepare the set, shoot the video, and edit the video.

[2] But keep in mind that Youtube is not for everybody. For example, if you live a lonely and boring life, no one's going to watch your vlogs. Also, you have to be able to live with all the hate that you'll eventually get from Youtube comments.
1326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where do you share affiliate links? on: February 17, 2017, 04:06:42 PM
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Where do you share affiliate links?

Definitely not here. Grin

It would be thousands of time better if you have your own website/blogsite and you promote that instead. That way, you can promote all the affiliate links all at the same time. For example, if you have some tips on your mind about OneHash or any other else gambling site that you are registered on, you can simply leave at the bottom the referral link.

People also tend to believe you more if you have a website other than some plain reddit post or social media post. Reading on a certain website makes the person more inclined to think that you're a credible person.
1327  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: February 17, 2017, 03:53:23 PM
Yes we can encourage local businesses to accept bitcoin by means of letting those business owners to register at online wallet of bitcoin and fiat currency exchange. He/she will appreciate the advantages and usefullness of digital and fiat currency in terms of fast service and low transaction fees. In that aspect of bitcoin overview that online wallet that he/she will be using is a mediator of any currency that will be paid or converted as form of payment which can cash out as profit to them, through recommended bank.

Ok then who will be their customers thats using BTC? Its already hard to start a Bitcoin accepting online shop because most BTC hodlers would select to keep their coins or sell it for cash because its more convenient for them than buying stuff directly with BTC. Theres no need for your local shops to accept BTC.

Do this. Name what local shops in your area should accept BTC and discover why havent they accepted it.

I doubt that there would be a reasonable reason why should they accept bitcoins. Local shops would always have local customers that have local fiat. Only reason for a local shop to accept bitcoins is if there's a lot of tourists coming to his shop. Example of this is in Hawaii, tourists all over the world are there and using bitcoins would save customers the hassle to convert their money to your local currency. Same advantage to you, you wouldn't have to convert their money to your local currency before you can use it.

In other words, bitcoin is the only true universal currency and a local shop would only be needing to accept bitcoins if they have customers from all over the world.
1328  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: February 17, 2017, 03:44:17 PM
Because Bitcoin is safer then cash.
You can't get robbed from your Bitcoin.
No. You ever heard about Bitfinex got hacked and more than BTC20.000 gone? . Either Bitcoin and Cash have a chance for get robbed and hacked. For avoid this we must increase our security, at least you have some protection.

There's no "some protection" other than the antiVirus that you have on your computer. It would be much better if you're not going to save your private keys or your seeds electronically. You should just write it down on a paper.

I think what's better to say is that you can't get your bitcoins robbed/hacked if it weren't in an online wallet. Using an online wallet would mean risking your coins. Hackers might not be targeting you in particular, but the exchanger site or the online wallet site that you've been using might be their next target. You'll never know.

But again even if your private keys or your seeds are just written down on a paper, you can still get robbed if someone finds it. In other words, there would always be a chance of you getting robbed simply because your private keys is saved/written somewhere in this world.
1329  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Paypal a scam? on: February 17, 2017, 03:30:04 PM
Yes paypal is very strange. I lost many $$ due to their 180 days limit luckily we have bitcoins now to avoid problems.

I don't think they are a scam because if that is true, then they wouldn't have grown to such a huge in an online payment system. As long as if you follow there terms I don't think you will face any issues because I'm using PayPal for almost 13 years and so far never had issues with them. I have done many transactions from big to small amounts.

I lost money many times due to charge backs even I've all the proofs paypal decided many time in buyers favor. Now I'm using bitcoins as payment no problem with it so far that's why paypal was not good for me.
Did you try to accept payment as friends.?
I heard that they can not reverse the payment if you are paying as friends or family like other said but never tested it yet..
I am also afraid right now to be scam.. buy this method.. many people are dealing with me in other forum..  with bitcoin.. they are still scamming even in paypal using reverse payment..

Did you try to accept payment as friends.?
Yes. but it's still reversible.

I heard that they can not reverse the payment if you are paying as friends or family like other said but never tested it yet..
wrong. You can claim unauthorized payment. If you receive personal payment and get charge back not only you loose money but also your account get limited too.

Only option with dealing with paypal is to use middleman (escrow) when dealing on forums. Always say truth to paypal to win dispute is the only option to win dispute.


Not at all times especially in the buyer's perspective. Supposed that there was escrow and the deal was all went well but after a couple of days, you encountered problems with whatever digital good that you bought (thus, got scammed), you can't dispute the payment since Paypal cleared out that digital goods aren't included in their Buyer's protection policy.

And even if it weren't a digital good: If you dispute it, you'd have to explain that the payment from the person you're disputing payments from is just an escrow and another person was the actual one who scammed you. A lot of explanation have to be done.

tl;dr: The use of escrow in Paypal only gives advantage to the seller while not using an escrow allows the buyer to claim that it was an unauthorized payment.
1330  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: February 17, 2017, 03:05:44 PM
I don't think we can manipulate bitcoin price it all about supply and demand even if we all try to there will be only little difference is price as bitcoin users are many.

We really can't manipulate bitcoin's price because it's something that is automatically increasing and decreasing base on the supply and demand of it in the market. And if you wanted to do some manipulation you should be one of those people or group that holds a lot of it in able to contribute some movements of its price.
That is the basic way to determine the price movement, however, volume of demand could come from a group of people who are whales or holding a good volume of bitcoin, with that, they can create a fake demand which will increase the price and since that was just a manipulated demand, the price will eventually back to normal or could fall as some people loses some trust when the price is unstable or so volatile.
Maybe in the near future when there's a close to equal distribution of bitcoin we can see that the price movement was due to legitimate demand of the majority. This is just my opinion since I really cannot confirm if this whales still has power to manipulate.

"Fake demand" is still demand. Someone's buying bitcoins, thus, there's demand on bitcoins. No matter how many persons was buying bitcoins, that's still demand nonetheless.

There would never be an equal distribution of bitcoin. The same thing with fiat, there would never be an equal distribution of fiat. I think you should read this article to realize that there would never be an equal distribution of wealth. And even if we get to do that, eventually, the wealth would not be evenly distributed because there would always be people spending more than others, and people earning much more than others.
1331  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 08-Feb-2017] on: February 17, 2017, 02:48:52 PM
Bit.ac reopened their signature campaign

Thanks! If anyone's wondering why it's on PNYC instead of Active or CFNP, it's because it opened but doesn't have the same team (manager + company). The previous manager was SFR10, now it's yahoo.
1332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any insurance service for gamblers to retain heavy losses....??? on: February 15, 2017, 03:12:49 PM
I have been thinking of an insurance service for gamblers, in which they were supposed to pay regular premiums. And while placing bets can get back at least a small amount back if the lost amount is a huge one. Myself too haven't come across such services. What you people think of an insurance for gambling.

This is like saying to a stranger, "I'm going to jump off a building, but you'll pay for my hospital bills, right?" The gambling site don't care about how much money did you lose. Even better for them if you lost millions on their website.

There's a rake back on some website but it's not that much. It's just a small percentage of what you lost which is for me is not useful in any way. There's no way that you can multiply that small money and get back the huge amount of money that you lost. It's just another advertising strategy of these gambling sites.
1333  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: February 15, 2017, 03:03:31 PM
now I only see that altcoin project, such as project ico very good to follow. when the project is successful, it will probably give you a sizable profit, and even very much. but, when it does not work, maybe they will refund your money[1]. so, the risk is very small.

[1] It doesn't work like that. You invested on their project, in other words, you take the risk and you're going to accept the fact that you can't take your money back in case things go down. I've never seen an ICO the issues full refund or even a partial refund when the coin is a failure. There's just too much ICO out there that either ran away because they intended to do so since day one, or they ran away because they pussied out and didn't know how to revive their project.

tl;dr: ICO is just as risky as other types of investment. Expect no refund, actually, don't even expect any updates from the company when the project becomes a failure.
1334  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 15, 2017, 02:53:32 PM
I honestly don't think it'll happen, certainly not in 15 years... In 100 years maybe?

I don't think the problem is technology- we already are extremely close to being able to replace the dollar in that matter, due to smartphones[1]. The problem lies with government control of money, and the legal guarantee and security (stability-wise) that it brings. If smartphone technology becomes cheaper, I think we may see countries with unstable dollar value using it more[2].

[1] How does the use of smartphone would make bitcoin replace dollar? Smartphone is owned by almost everyone. Even older people that used to hate technology are loving their iPads nowadays. I don't see any strong relation between bitcoins and smartphones. If anything, it's because smartphones allow you to have a bitcoin wallet. But smartphones have so many uses that one efficient use of it is covered by another depending on the priority of the user.

[2] There are actually really really cheap smartphones on poor countries. Here's a 4 dollar smartphone featured by Unbox Therapy. You can throw it away and not worry about anything. When it goes low battery, you can simply buy a brand new one. Grin
1335  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me a secret: any way to earn 0.1 BTC per week? on: February 15, 2017, 02:25:11 PM
Everyone ask the internet these questions and they are that desperate to earn bitcoins, though you must be really not that being spoon feed by the others, there are lot of articles in these forum which i have been reading, if you really want to earn .01 weekly, there are a lot of ways, PTC and such things like that, joining a signature campaign is one the best and popular.

Those methods sure can give you .01BTC weekly but the topic here is actually .1BTC which is 10 times of what's on your mind. Paid-to-click sites are very strict with their clicks and pay really low. I even doubt that you can earn .01BTC from that. Signature campaign, no question on that unless you're a low ranked member.

You can get it if you do real life job. Rather than weekly salary you would get monthly salary but it's more guaranteed than the internet. It's hard to get 0.1 BTC per week constantly.

The problem is, day job is not available for everyone. There are some that's still studying here. There are also places in the world where you would rather do online job than go on a crappy day job just to get an equal pay, lower even, for a whole day of hard work.
1336  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 15, 2017, 02:10:01 PM
I would prefer bitcoins because I know that the price of the gold is going down[1] and I don't think that it's a good idea to buy gold because you will have first to use real money[2] but with bitcoins you can earn money without spend lots of money.

[1] Maybe at some moments the price of gold is going down but I hardly think it would go down and become cheap.

[2] Isn't it the same? At the end of the day, you worked for that money to get gold/bitcoins. Gold isn't going down in price because it's a natural resources and we can't produce it on our own. Gold is being used so much nowadays because of technology so its price should increase unless if someone invents or discovers something that's just as shiny and as useful as gold.
1337  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Paypal a scam? on: February 15, 2017, 02:01:44 PM
I got scammed by them, when I bought cloud mining contract from famous scam service eobot they told me that I can only withdraw after 180 days but just after 90 days they said that time for dispute has already past, I know I was a fool to trust a scam cloud mining but paypal should have charged back the funds after they realized I used it in bitcoin related business.

Even if they didn't say that the dispute has already passed, you still wouldn't win. Digital goods isn't covered by the Buyer's Protection Policy. So many people want to get out of a cloud mining scam once they realized that it's a ponzi scam. Like, don't you do your own research? A simple search on google would tell you that all of these "legit" investment sites are following a simple scam concept. They use the investments of the new people to pay the earlier investors.

You should've filed another dispute or at least tried to contact support and say that you were scammed. I doubt that it would work, but you should've at least tried.
1338  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: February 15, 2017, 01:43:19 PM
it means choosing 3 to 5 good investments and then
How you can say ONLY 3 to 5. It can be in hundreds[1]. No matter. The only thing is you should not depend on ONLY ONE. If you invest all your money into one business, when they fail you also will fail with your investment plans.

[1] Supposed that you were given $1,000 to invest (roughly 1BTC). Would you rather invest them on 3-5 investments or divide them to small pieces and invest in more than a hundred types of investments? If you choose the first one, then that can be a good decision. But if you choose hundreds of investments? I don't think so.

Supposed that 10 of them goes booming, and the money on those investments tripled, it wouldn't have that much effect on you since you've invested so little on them and you have so much money invested on other things. Point is, Yeah, multiple sources of income is good but investments are not sure sources of income. You only need a couple of investments to have a successful one and then continue on experimenting on other things since you have sure profits on your first investments.

Tl;dr: Many is not always better.
1339  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin without Altcoin ? on: February 15, 2017, 01:33:33 PM
I began to think that altcoin important role to play. altcoin may play a role in the development of bitcoin prices. probably about 40%, altcoin make bitcoin prices to be increased. for all users altcoin, role in bitcoin prices
specially those altcoins which done very successful ICO's. they will surely attract lots of people and effect the bitcfoin price a lot.
I think things are already working on their ways.

I do agree that altcoin have important role on attracting people to cryptocurrency but it do bad and at the same time good in Bitcoin economy.  Good because they attract people, bad because most of this ICO are scam so it gives bad reputation[1] to cryptocurrency industry including Bitcoin.  Worst is that these altcoin often declare they are better than bitcoin[2] and at the end scam these unsuspecting people.  Result they also think Bitcoin is also a scam project lol. 

[1] How bad could the reputation of bitcoin be? It's already ruined since from the start. It would be wrong if we pretend as if all those illegal activities aren't happening. But at the same time, it's happening on fiat currency. Nothing to be ashamed of, honestly. All currencies are being used in shady activities.

[2] To some degrees, altcoins are actually better than bitcoins. Transaction time, Price, Date of Launch. Although those doesn't matter, it's still an advantage of altcoins. Transaction time has always been a problem of the majority, and we have SegWit on the way to solve that. Unfortunately, we're still not so sure about it. Using an altcoin can resolve our issues with bitcoin transaction time.

Price of altcoin is more volatile and cheaper. Thus, we can trade it and make bitcoins from it. The date of launch of altcoins are later than bitcoins. You have more chance of having your money increase if you invest in an altcoin than in bitcoins. (But we also have good times with bitcoin when the price increases like crazy. We rarely see that on altcoins nowadays.)
1340  Economy / Services / Re: Liqui Exchange - Signature campaign on: February 15, 2017, 12:32:20 PM
Payment sent.
is this campaign still running? how many participants it have now? I want to join this campaign. is this possible? hope I'll be get accepted. thanks.

It is. Look at the spreadsheet. It's still constantly updated. There are four participants and I don't think they are looking for any new participants at the moment. They're full as indicated in the first post. Smiley
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