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1341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your take on Mt. Gox refund ? on: September 14, 2023, 01:17:33 PM
As far as I know, Mt.gox will pay in many different coins, not just BTC, and it all depends on the victim's choice. 
~snip~

From everything that could be read, not only will payments be possible in BTC and some shitcoin, but the victims could also opt for the payment option in fiat. In addition, it should be noted that not everyone will be paid at once, and considering the Japanese efficiency in this case, I would not be surprised if the whole thing takes years.

I think I could coin a saying that would read "God forbid that your CEX gets hacked, and even less if that CEX is in Japan".
1342  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2023-09-08] BTC ETF: The quiet 800-pound gorilla in the room is about to roar on: September 14, 2023, 10:59:37 AM
The thing is.... do we want Institutional capital to enter Bitcoin and dominate the ownership of coins ...or do we want an more even distribution of coins to millions of people?
~snip~

Will BR ask you or me or anyone other than the SEC whether or not such an ETF can be launched? Of course, we don't have a say in all of this, and the fact is that Bitcoin is decentralized and everyone has the right to use it the way they want - even those who, for some reason, send it to burn addresses.

On the other hand, we are now in 2023, and Bitcoin has existed since the beginning of 2009, which was quite enough for anyone who wanted to take their share in it in one way or another, and they can still do so. However, considering how the majority perceives BTC, we can hardly hope that they will resist not selling it when some six-digit prices turn up, but there will always be those who will prefer to keep it or use it as a currency.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the spot ETF we're talking about will result in some kind of massive outflow of BTC into custodial storage, and BR has chosen Coinbase for that anyway, which means that they will buy BTC for them on their exchange and send it to another coin address - which ultimately means that BTC will remain where it is now.
1343  Economy / Economics / Re: If the global economy collapses what's the first thing you do? on: September 14, 2023, 10:21:51 AM
Honestly if you have BTC congrats !!! We are heading  into a major economic shift and I feel like when the tides are turning like this there should be a conscious effort to land on the right side of that shift!!! Am I right? What should bitcoiners be doing right now to prepare for a potential global economic hardship other than the obvious which is to hodl and accumulate as much as you can...

If there is a global economic collapse, do you think the price of BTC will remain intact, given that there have been talks about integrating it into the existing financial system for years? And that's exactly what happened, and the price of BTC reacts to every event that has global significance, such as the declaration of a pandemic, which dropped the price of BTC by 50% in less than 24 hours.

Holding is only part of the story, what happens when everyone who keeps their value like that starts selling to cover basic living expenses, and at the same time there is little or no demand at all?

The key is diversification and understanding the risks that we need to protect ourselves from in case everything goes to hell, and I personally am not so much afraid of an economic collapse as of a possible nuclear war, considering that a lot of crazy people possess enough nuclear weapons to destroy this planet and more than a hundred times.
1344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 14, 2023, 09:57:40 AM
FTX approved to liquidate assets
FTX a bankrupt cryptocurrency exchange has been granted court approval to liquidate $3.4 billion in crypto assets including Solana Bitcoin  and Ethereum  and more. This approval allows FTX to sell, stake and hedge these assets to repay its creditors despite two objections. Judge John Dorsey has given the green light for the assets to be liquidated for creditor repayment.

Be careful

The assets that are signaling a crash are these.
• Solana
• Bitcoin 
• Ethereum 
• WBTC 
• WETH
• USDT
• XRP 
• STG
• APT 
• BIT
https://watcher.guru/news/ftx-gets-court-approval-to-liquidate-3-4-billion-in-crypto-assets

In the long term, everything on this list except Bitcoin are classic shitcoins, regardless of whether they are cryptocurrencies, tokens or stablecoins. Apart from that, of the $3.4 billion that is being talked about, there is only slightly more than $500 million worth of BTC, so I don't see why some 1900 BTC that will be sold would signal a crash?

A company that dealt with shitcoins, headed by a little bastard who screwed up everything he could, will try to get away with selling shitcoins for a couple of billions - and the biggest fools are those who will buy those same shitcoins - I guess the same ones who have also lost money in that CEX.
1345  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another day to take caution of sim swap attack on: September 14, 2023, 09:45:59 AM
How is a sim swap possible?
Here in my country before you request anything from the sim carrier like requesting for sim replacement you need to provide a selfie and submit a few documents for verification. So how does Vitalik Buterin fall to this attack?
~snip~

I also wondered that until I once had to replace my old SIM and I went to the physical office of my operator who only asked for my existing mobile number and nothing more - in one minute I had a new SIM card. I never thought of using a mobile number for 2FA before (and especially after that), and as for how Mr. Vitalik managed to lose his account is something that speaks volumes about how intelligent he is.

A man who has been trying to dethrone Bitcoin for 10 years and who suddenly concluded that POS is better than POW is not even capable of protecting an ordinary account on a social network.
1346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Michael Saylor predicts Bitcoin can go to $5 million? on: September 13, 2023, 03:16:52 PM
I didn't find any links or articles where he gave a reason or basis for why he said that 5 million dollars will be the value of Bitcoin.
~snip~

It's more than obvious that you didn't even try to get to any article, since I posted another link just fews post above to the article that is originally posted by @Don Pedro Dinero here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466479.msg62831747#msg62831747

What you are doing is called shitposting and signature spam Angry
1347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in your country. on: September 13, 2023, 02:51:32 PM
I do not think bitcoin legalized as a legal tender should be included because bitcoin has been made a legal tender in just two countries which are El Salvador which was the first country, and Central Africa Republic (CAR) which was the second country. Go to those countries and spend bitcoin, it is accepted everywhere.

CAR rejected BTC as a legal tender a long time ago, and I don't understand why people keep repeating it as if something will change if we still believe that Bitcoin could have succeeded in a country where 90% of people do not have access to the internet. Even if you go to El Salvador, you cannot count on being able to pay with BTC anywhere, the law is one thing, but the reality is something completely different.

For other bitcoin friendly countries like Netherlands, Slovania, Switzerland and many of them. If people are from these countries, this thread can be helpful to let us know the level bitcoin is accepted in these bitcoin friendly countries. But I think tourists will spend bitcoin easily in countries that has been made as legal tender. The third for tourists is an island in Honduras where bitcoin is also a legal tender.

I assume you mean Slovenia, which is often mentioned (although I don't see any particular reason), because Portugal or Germany are also very friendly countries when it comes to Bitcoin, especially taxes. As for Honduras, it is not true that Bitcoin is legal tender there, but it is a tourist project of the Santa Lucia enclave called Bitcoin Valley. A similar thing exists on the Philippine island of Boracay, and BTC is not legal tender there either.

Your idea that Bitcoin can only prosper if it is legal tender is completely wrong, because forcing someone to use something they don't want is counterproductive in most cases.
1348  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Discussion] Bitcoin Spot ETFs on: September 13, 2023, 02:34:03 PM
Bitcoin, the protocol, will stay decentralized even if we have a Bitcoin ETF. It's just that a part of the supply will be held in centralized custody.

Isn't it the same today, considering that we have millions of BTC that are under the control of CEX and various online wallets? What is changing is that the number of BTC that will now be in custody storage will increase even more, which means that the biggest risk will be in saving them from hacking.

Apart from that, I read something interesting in WO today ->

One more thing that really hammers home #NYKNYC
    
The Sponsor and the Trustee:
- are not liable for any loss of bitcoin occurring prior to the delivery of bitcoin to the Bitcoin Custodian or Prime Broker, as applicable, or after the delivery of bitcoin by the Bitcoin Custodian or Prime Broker, as applicable (and for the avoidance of doubt, are not liable for the loss of bitcoin while held by the Bitcoin Custodian or Prime Broker absent gross negligence or bad faith by the Sponsor and Trustee);

So in other words, if coinbase managed to lose access to the coins, Lost PrivKey, hacked, inside job etc... "you are up shitcreek without a paddle"...

Some people simply aren't interested in the non-custodial aspect of bitcoin; they just want to comfortably hold bitcoin in their brokerage accounts without thinking about how to secure their wallets and stuff.

In other words, they are only interested in profit and don't care how they will achieve it. This is no surprise, we know that BlackRock or Fidelity are not doing anything for the benefit of Bitcoin, but to collect as much money as possible.

However, what worries me more is that BR has increasing shares in various BTC mining companies, which, along with their official position regarding a possible BTC fork, does not look very promising for the future.
1349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Owner of 8K bitcoin lost in landfill threatens to bankrupt local council on: September 13, 2023, 01:23:25 PM
This guy needs to give up, it’s his own stupid fault. He threw it out years ago...
~snip~

When you read only the first post and the title, you can write nonsense without even realizing it - because how many times does it have to be repeated that it was not he who threw the HDD in the trash, but his partner at the time. Commenting without knowing some basic facts is sometimes more stupid than what happened to that poor guy.



In addition, no one mentioned that James claims that his HDD also contains an IP address from Satoshi and that he was one of the first six people mining at the time. And now we have to believe that Satoshi was so reckless as to reveal his real IP address - to me, that information seemed just like an attempt for James to attract even more attention and maybe charge for a few more interviews.

The lost hard drive also contains “the real IP address of satoshi as well as the wallet file,” adding: “not that I would dox satoshi ?”.
1350  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Keeping or recovering seed phrases during or after a natural disaster. on: September 13, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
I see only one possible solution, and that is that the backup simply has to be stored in different locations that are far enough from each other that they cannot be affected by the same natural disaster. However, it is not something that most people can afford because they simply do not have a location they trust, and therefore they have to be innovative and improvise.

In any case, being your own bank is a big risk and challenge, and there is no universal solution that could be called perfect. After all, in the situations mentioned by the OP, the primary thing is to save the life of yourself and your family, but also of other people - because what is the best backup worth if you lose your life or the life of someone who is of inestimable value to you?
1351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Michael Saylor predicts Bitcoin can go to $5 million? on: September 13, 2023, 10:43:57 AM
As for the speculation about $5 million, that's news from 2021 and I don't know why someone decided to bring it back into the public's focus - but even though I don't think it's impossible, I would still put that price in the context of the time it would take to make something like that happen.

If I'm not mistaken, we are talking about a market cap in the amount of even $100 trillion, and for the sake of comparison, that would be as much as 10 companies the size of BlackRock. This is simply too much money to be realized in the near future and could only be realized if central banks start buying Bitcoin the same way they buy gold today.



And who's to say that wont happen?

Obviously he isnt talking about a $5,000,000 target today or tomorrow, its a long term
target, so long that none of us here could possibly witness it.

I believe that Bitcoin will become extremely sought after by more and more of the people
and institutions who have in the past and still are reluctant to embrace it. As more time passes
and it becomes clearer that Bitcoin is not going to fail it will become more sought after.

I didn't say it won't happen, but only that it won't happen in the near future, although you should read the article that actually explains why Saylor thinks the way he does.

Of course, it should be taken into account that he is deeply involved in Bitcoin and that his words should be seen in that context, as many others have already commented on this topic. Therefore, I don't think that he is really talking about some distant future, but about something that will happen during his lifetime. However, the fact is that from 2009 to today Bitcoin has been accepted by less than 5% of the total population, the question is how long it will take to reach 10% or maybe 15%?
1352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 13, 2023, 10:26:36 AM
~snip~
What does it mean? Hodl you BTC as it is going to boom once this USA vs Russia game stops.

Why do you think that the games between the US and Russia will ever stop? I think that these "games" will only intensify, considering that the world is increasingly polarized between those who side with the US and those who side with Russia. However, this does not mean that the price of BTC will not continue to rise, because the demand is constant and will probably increase, and the max supply of 21 million BTC is still something that sets BTC apart from anything else.

If we know that the current circulating supply is close to 19.5 million BTC, and that in less than 10 years 99% of all BTC will be mined, I would conclude that we are in for very exciting times.
1353  Other / Meta / Re: Is there a way to know how many spendable merits are going to expire soon ? on: September 13, 2023, 10:03:46 AM
~snip~
I'm just curious as to why you've created two threads all asking to know how to disburse sMerits. Are you looking for unwanted attention or what? Huh

Good question, although I doubt you'll get an answer from the OP. Someone who has already spent a lot of time on the forum should know the answers to some questions, how to use the search engine or how not to be a thread spammer.
1354  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Petition to investigate Freewallet org scam on: September 12, 2023, 04:19:54 PM
I'm not saying that what you wrote doesn't make sense, although I was convinced that you somehow want to create pressure on the authorities by showing them specific victims who have evidence that something bad happened to them because they used that service. The weight of their statements with evidence is far greater than the opinion of some people who, considering everything that has happened in the past years when it comes to that service, suspect that this company is doing something that is against the law.

Regardless of the directions in which you go, we all still hope that you will succeed in encouraging the authorities to act on this issue.
1355  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The power of influencials and brand ambassadors, don't fall for it. on: September 12, 2023, 03:51:53 PM
~snip~
Avoid being influenced to buy a coin or any project, learn to do your own research, do some background check about the project, check the aims and objective of the project, the scope of the project and what they want to do, and not some unrealistic magic just to eat investors money.

If you are referring to altcoins (and I assume that this is the case), is there any project that makes sense and that in some way brings some positive change? All I see are false promises, with the difference that they try again and again to pack it in the most luxurious and shiny packaging in order to sell their project as well as possible.

What I want to say is that the people you are talking about have their price and will promote anything if they are paid well, but that speaks volumes about them and how much they care about all those who will lose their money because of them.

Be smart, buy what they don't advertise, and we all know what that is, right? Wink
1356  Economy / Speculation / Re: The future of Bitcoin: Bullish or Bearish on: September 12, 2023, 03:32:44 PM
First of all i think this thread can fit better on economics than bitcoin discussion, its not bad placement but i think it can fit more in the other section.
~snip~

It seems to me that it belongs somewhere else, maybe in the trash? Does anyone really think the OP wrote that post or is it plagiarism, paraphrasing or AI?
1357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 12, 2023, 03:16:07 PM
sept 19 fed raises rates we go down again.





To me, this is Powell's best statement with a little help from the ubiquitous AI of course Cheesy
1358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Michael Saylor predicts Bitcoin can go to $5 million? on: September 12, 2023, 02:43:26 PM
Although true, it would still be laughable to compare the Chad Saylor with John McAfee, no? Chad Saylor made one of the largest investments in Bitcoin, and therefore people can't touch him no matter how hard those people laugh at him. John McAfee is a mere snake-oil salesman who used his popularity to shill shitcoins.

I agree, the two can't be compared for anything, whether it's about things related to Bitcoin or the way they treat life in general. After watching the documentary about John McAfee, I got a much broader picture of him, so even though I'm not a psychologist to draw conclusions about someone's mental health, I would dare to say that a lot of things were not right in his head.

On the other hand, Saylor is a successful businessman with no scandals (as far as I know), and the only bad label that can be attached to him is his tweet about how he thinks Bitcoin will fail, as well as online gambling, but that was before some 10 years.

As for the speculation about $5 million, that's news from 2021 and I don't know why someone decided to bring it back into the public's focus - but even though I don't think it's impossible, I would still put that price in the context of the time it would take to make something like that happen.

If I'm not mistaken, we are talking about a market cap in the amount of even $100 trillion, and for the sake of comparison, that would be as much as 10 companies the size of BlackRock. This is simply too much money to be realized in the near future and could only be realized if central banks start buying Bitcoin the same way they buy gold today.
1359  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alteration of bitcoin 21M cap: Is it possible, necessary or needless? on: September 11, 2023, 03:41:21 PM
The 21 million maximum supply cap is one of Bitcoin's biggest strengths — the fact that no one can print more than that limit. Removing the supply cap goes against one of Bitcoin's strengths so I totally doubt the masses would support this in the first place even if some people are for it.

Also, screw Bitcoin dot com.

When you see the source of the news, then you are not at all surprised that someone is even discussing it as something that should be questioned at all. Although we who do understand some things a little better understand why that 21 million is so important, we should also keep in mind that there are those who would very much like to see that number change to more for various reasons.

Some would want it because then the price would drop drastically and then they could probably buy one whole BTC and then they would wonder why the price would never go up again - some others want it just so that one of their crypto kings would ascend to the throne and to profit.

In fact, there are many so-called Bitcoins (forks) that have a much higher max supply, but there is no need to say how successful they were with these changes.
1360  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: BITCOIN AS GIFTS FOR TEENAGERS on: September 11, 2023, 03:16:36 PM
Maybe you went in the wrong direction from the beginning, which is that you went directly towards the children, and you bypassed their parents, who still take care of these children and behave protectively. If you take into account all the scandals that have passed through the media and in which Bitcoin is mentioned in the past few years, then maybe you can understand why parents react in such a way.

Of course, it is not Bitcoin's fault that someone is not capable of running his company or has dishonest intentions from the very beginning of a project, but the media you mentioned write what people want to read, and bad news sells far better than good news.

Politics and banks are only (still) fairly static observers who do not need to make any big moves, because the average person is already instrumentalized to such an extent that he does not easily (or at all) accept anything that deviates from established norms of socially responsible behavior.
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