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1461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's on! 2024 US Presidential Election Biden+Harris Vs Trump Bitcoin betting.... on: July 06, 2023, 02:18:31 AM
The machinery created to spread black propaganda against the Democrats are working hard again. This consiracy theory about Hillary Clinton and her aide has recently been becoming more visible in social media.

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I haven't heard anything about this recent scandal. But at the same time, the mainstream media went crazy about the allegations made by Stormy Daniels. Whatever happened between Trump and Daniels was purely consensual, and even then Trump was demonized for that. On the other hand, photos and videos showing Hunter Biden involved in serious criminal behavior was leaked sometime back and the mainstream media never covered this story. And you still want to believe that the media is biased against Joe Biden and favoring Trump?

Actually, it is not a new thing. It is a rumor which is very common among those in the far right, about a very disturbing video featuring Hillary and other people close to her mutilating and drinking the blood out of a child. You know, the typical satanic ritual which was filmed for some reason.

Though, I must admit that even though that rumor is crazy. I cannot deny that Hillary gives bad vibes and the leaked emails she exchanges with other people are quite disturbing on their own... Have you read them?

The rumors also say that the elite's drug of choice is adrenochrome which can be taken by drinking the blood of a terrorized victim. They prefer innocent children and teenagers because the adrenochrome is more potent.

Also, can you share the source of the leaked emails? It might make the readers of the thread to bet for a Republican hehehehehe.



I know, it is a urban legend. I think it comes from a movie or something.
If you are interested on those emails sent and received by Hillary you can find them on wikileaks and similar webpages. Those emails in particular are quite disturbing because Hillary and whoever she is talking to, used references to ancient gods and deities from Israel. Also many code words which do not make sense for an outsider.

Actually, it would not be strange if some people actually voted Republican after reading those emails, indeed.

Those emails might be a kind of secret code only known by the sender and the receiver of the emails. This is head scratching because we have encryption technology already available that lets us sign, encrypt and decrypt emails. Hillary Clinton's weirdness would not have been exposed. hehee.



I will browse wikileaks later but is it safe? If I have not logged in bitcointalk for days, assume the government got me.
1462  Economy / Gambling / Re: Neodice.com | Futuristic Dice Platform 🎲🌌 on: July 06, 2023, 02:09:10 AM
@avp2306. The most common utility of many casino tokens is profit sharing with the holders. This functions very much similar to a traditional company that issues stock and stockholders get dividends for owning them.

It also functions very much similar to providing the cashflow for the site through casino bankrolls. Does anyone remember them? They were very popular before the invention of tokenization and DeFi. However, tokens have an advantage because it gives the business the funds and also gives the investor the liquidity to do what he likes with the token. The advantage of DeFi tokens is you can stake or lend them to another protocol to earn more yields.

In any case, there is nothing wrong with tokenization if the project founders are honest and good to their community.
To be honest, I am not an expert in all this, I am a more mundane person, but even I understand that casino tokenization is not needed at all because of technology. I am familiar with some casinos that have partnerships with Blockchain platforms such as Ancr, and as far as I can tell, all this turmoil is needed only in order to be able to link two logos on an advertising banner.


Although I used to imagine it as something unique .... something along the lines of - if neither of the parties involved has the option to cancel the bet (Casino/Users), or reduce the odds after accepting the bet, then success is guaranteed.

I reckon it would be something very similar to casinos that let users invest in the casino's bankroll for a certain percentage of the profits. But with tokenization, it is more indirect and the casino owners could use the money not only for the casino's bankroll but also for maintenance and improvement. It gives them a budget to continue operating for months while waiting for the cashflow to come.

In exchange, token holders get a share of the casino's profit through yields if the tokens are staked, functioning like DeFi protocols. However, be careful because the casino might be Genslered hehehe.
1463  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Is the Binance the next to bite the dust or FUD? on: July 06, 2023, 01:07:35 AM
If Binance goes down, what if Justin Sun enters with his billions and buy Binance then become the new king of the cryptospace?
Lol chances of that happening ( Sun buying out Binance and becoming "king of cryptospace") are slim to none. I am sure that he would use that hypotethical situation to promote hismelf future (as he usually do) but I don't think that he has that amount of money.

Agreed that chances for it are small, however, I would not say it is slim. It might be moderately higher than estimated.

On Justin Sun's money, I have always speculated that he has backers from China who Justin might be laundering money for through his different projects and exchanges in the cryptospace. Binance could be an important piece in their operation because much of the cryptospace's inflows and outflows of cash and coins pass through it.

Also, Justin and CZ are friends and it would not be shocking if they are supported by the same Chinese backers.
1464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: NFT Speculation on: July 05, 2023, 05:28:29 AM

In the bearish season there's nothing we can do, especially for the NFT market, even now NFT is still not very popular anymore,
even some of the top NFT coins are still at the bottom price and haven't recovered yet, but don't be sad,
because this is a good thing for those who haven't bought NFT yet, because at this time buying NFT is really worth holding on to.

Agreed, however, it appears that the bear market for NFTs might be worse than the bear market for altcoins. There are also no assurances for a quick recovery because in altcoins and defi tokens, there are institutional investors who might find an argument to invest in them during a favorable market. But on NFTs, who will be the buyers? Each other?
1465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermell Charlo - September 30th in Las Vegas on: July 05, 2023, 04:46:39 AM
Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.
I don't think Canelo's performance was bad against John Ryder, Canelo's performance is still good but Ryder is a true warrior since his nose was broke and he still able to continue the fight until the last round. But it's true Canelo is looking to fight with an opponent that wouldn't able to beat him, Jermall Charlo is one of the example.

The possibility Charlo to beat Canelo is pretty low, I'm more interested to watch Canelo vs Benavidez.

I very much agree. It appears for this fight Canelo only wants to collect money before his next real challenge which will be another round of negotiations for a rematch vs. Bivol. I speculate that he also does not want to fight Benavidez because it is risky and Canelo will lose his opportunity for Bivol if he is not the champion.

Canelo vs. Charlo is similar to an altcoin ICO. Hype it then take the money. Fans go home shaking their heads after watching an ordinary fight hehe.
1466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's on! 2024 US Presidential Election Biden+Harris Vs Trump Bitcoin betting.... on: July 05, 2023, 04:17:50 AM
The machinery created to spread black propaganda against the Democrats are working hard again. This consiracy theory about Hillary Clinton and her aide has recently been becoming more visible in social media.

✂✂✂

I haven't heard anything about this recent scandal. But at the same time, the mainstream media went crazy about the allegations made by Stormy Daniels. Whatever happened between Trump and Daniels was purely consensual, and even then Trump was demonized for that. On the other hand, photos and videos showing Hunter Biden involved in serious criminal behavior was leaked sometime back and the mainstream media never covered this story. And you still want to believe that the media is biased against Joe Biden and favoring Trump?

Actually, it is not a new thing. It is a rumor which is very common among those in the far right, about a very disturbing video featuring Hillary and other people close to her mutilating and drinking the blood out of a child. You know, the typical satanic ritual which was filmed for some reason.

Though, I must admit that even though that rumor is crazy. I cannot deny that Hillary gives bad vibes and the leaked emails she exchanges with other people are quite disturbing on their own... Have you read them?

The rumors also say that the elite's drug of choice is adrenochrome which can be taken by drinking the blood of a terrorized victim. They prefer innocent children and teenagers because the adrenochrome is more potent.

Also, can you share the source of the leaked emails? It might make the readers of the thread to bet for a Republican hehehehehe.

1467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gensler can destroy the U.S. crypto industry but he can’t kill crypto on: July 05, 2023, 03:54:05 AM
You are 100% correct....

The SEC is the tool of politicians to satisfy the needs of large Fiat financial organizations. These companies fund their election campaigns and they get leverage over these politicians.

We all know the US elections is around the corner and the politicians must dance to the songs of the companies that are funding their election campaigns. Once the elections are done, the damage to the Crypto currency scene would be done too.... and all of that would have been for money and power... and protecting the rich.  Angry

The SEC itself is not a tool. It is the people that are being appointed to run them are the tools. If a group of bankers spent millions in a political candidate's electoral campaign and if this candidate won and became a senator, a congressman or a position as powerful as a president, what would happen? The milions spent will be not for nothing. It is an investment hehehee. The bankers will certainly suggest names of the people who they can easily work with in different departments of the government.

In any case, there are many people who would not accept this reality and if you mention it, they will call you a conspiracy theorist.
1468  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Is the Binance the next to bite the dust or FUD? on: July 05, 2023, 02:45:26 AM
@Z-tight. What is worrying about Binance is there is an increasing threat of being cut off from different jurisdictions. I reckon if this continues and if a panic begins, I am afraid that Binance would decide to freeze all their users' accounts from withdrawals not because they do not have the funds, but because they want to save the exchange. One big panic is all it might take for Binance to bite the dust.

However, I hope everyone is ready for the next head shaking storyline because anyone who hates CZ will certainly hate this next possbility. If Binance goes down, what if Justin Sun enters with his billions and buy Binance then become the new king of the cryptospace?
1469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's on! 2024 US Presidential Election Biden+Harris Vs Trump Bitcoin betting.... on: July 04, 2023, 06:50:42 AM
The machinery created to spread black propaganda against the Democrats are working hard again. This consiracy theory about Hillary Clinton and her aide has recently been becoming more visible in social media.

Search for frazzledrip in Google if you do not know what this is and witness the unlimited imagination from these people hehehehe.

However, if there is a darknet enjoyer here, can you confirm if this is real?

1470  Economy / Gambling / Re: Impossible KYC Requirements - Stake.com - Withholding $6000 USD on: July 03, 2023, 03:49:54 AM
Then please know that op made mention of having passed level 1 and 2 verification before the whole brouhaha started, he was find with his account but after using VPN, I believe that triggered the level 3 and 4 kyc requirements on his account, after submitting the requested documents and getting rejected multiple times, they resetted the whole kyc process on his account, he had to start all over from level 1 again, and right now, he's stuck with level 3 or 4 - not sure which level..

The moral lesson here is to just avoid doing what ever the casino say they don't like, doing so might just be you inviting unnecessary problems into your life, $6000 is not a small amount of money to lose to be honest.
I get that he violated the TOS by using VPN which is always complicated territory, but he did submit KYC repeatedly over the course of a couple of months to prove his legitimacy which is why Stake is still at fault here.

They should either release his funds or clarify why they keep repeatedly KYC in this case in my opinion.

Using a VPN is not forbidden on Stake. This is the common wrong misconception about VPN restriction. The only time VPN is restricted to use when you are on a restricted country that online gambling or you are a citizen of restricted country. To make it simple, VPN is restricted to use if you are using it to bypass the country law that restricting you to play on online casino.

On OP cases, Probably he plays online gambling on Thailand soil using VPN to bypass country restriction. This is the reason why the KYC become harder for him even if he is a citizen of a country that allows gambling.

https://www.csir.res.in/feedbackform/what-gambling-thailand-and-how-use-it#:~:text=The%20gambling%20industry%20is%20not,a%20one%2Dyear%20prison%20sentence.

It is not forbidden, however, using a VPN while using the site in a banned jurisdiction is forbidden. Willowbitcoin was not clear about where he worked overseas.

@Willowbitcoin. The most fair outcome in your case is to confiscate all of your winnings if you played in banned jursidiction while using a VPN and a warning that doing this again will be a banned account including confiscation of winnings and deposits.
1471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: July 03, 2023, 02:58:46 AM
I can't believe we're only a month away from a cursory preseason teaser, and only six weeks away from unofficial football.  To be honest, I haven't missed it.  I'm glad that this thread has been largely active all off-season, happy to see you guys are enjoying it.  But I just haven't had the heart heart for it.

After the 49ers' last game I began questioning reality.  Is this life real, or am I living in matrix-like experimental reality where cruelty is inflicted on test-subjects through chemically induced highs and lows as hallucinations of football and women?

I don't know, I just don't know.

I was excited after the superbowl and during the draft, however, I am presently in a similar mood as you after not witnessing the most exciting trade rumors occur. But things to be excited on during the next season would be Deshaun Massage Lover Watson in a complete season with his new team. Improvements and comeback of Russel Wilson after a bad season with the Broncos. The New York Jets and Mr. I am immunized Rodgers. The Bills next post season, no comment hehehehe.

In any case, what is the plan for our fantasy league? The same schedule, we draft 1 week before the regular season begins?
1472  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for July on: July 03, 2023, 02:24:00 AM
Similar to my vote last month, my vote this month is again yes the pump will continue hehehe. It might also be good to mention the rumor in this thread that our uncle Gary is resigning from the SEC. The source of this information is an anonymous official in the SEC, according to sauces.

Gensler is presently the enemy boss of the cryptospace. If this enemy leaves, I am quite certain the happy CZ will consider it a victory and pump bitcoin to $40k.

1473  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance to suspend GBP deposits/withdrawal on: July 03, 2023, 01:29:12 AM
On Binance being kicked out of many jurisdictions, be careful what you wish for. CZ is a clown crypto hustler very much similar to Justin Sun, however, this coordinated crackdown should be concerning because do you know who will take over? The people who own you. The rulers of your countries, the real criminals, the manipulators behind traditional finance.
1474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gensler can destroy the U.S. crypto industry but he can’t kill crypto on: July 03, 2023, 12:25:55 AM
Update. There are rumors circulating in social media that uncle Gary has resigned. I will just share this on this thread instead of creating a new one while we wait for an official annoucement from the SEC.

Also, the market is not pumping. Markets usually react positively to rumors if there is some truth behind them.

In any case, I wish it is true hehehehe.



In a stunning revelation, an anonymous official from the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has reportedly disclosed that Gary Gensler, the Chairman of the SEC, has submitted his resignation following an internal investigation. This bombshell news has sent shockwaves through the financial industry, raising concerns about the integrity of the regulatory body and the implications for investor confidence.

The anonymous SEC official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the matter, stated, "Gary Gensler has resigned from his position as Chairman of the SEC following an internal investigation into alleged misconduct. The details of the investigation are confidential, but the decision to step down underscores the seriousness of the findings."


Source https://www.thecryptoalert.com/post/sec-sources-confirm-gary-gensler-resignation
1475  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Super Middleweight (September 16) on: July 01, 2023, 05:43:03 AM
So, it's officially announced earlier that Jermall Charlo will move up in weight to challenge Canelo Alvarez which i think is the best fight for Canelo this year as a rematch with Bivol is too risky and yet he has nothing to gain if it will be in the SMW division.

What do you think of this fight guys, still cherry picking or Charlo will give Canelo a run for his money?

I never thought I would see a statement saying that a certain fight will be risky for Canelo after being the king of the super middleweight division hehehhee. I reckon Bivol is showing the Irish looking Mexican that he cannot be dictated into a rematch in light heavyweight hehe.

For this fight, I am shaking my head that only 3 people voted for Canelo by decision. This is a very clear outcome. If Canelo cannot knockout Ryder, it might also be difficult for him to knockout Charlo.

In any case, where is David Benavidez? Canelo is avoiding the future king?
1476  Economy / Gambling / Re: Impossible KYC Requirements - Stake.com - Withholding $6000 USD on: July 01, 2023, 05:08:34 AM
What a nightmare! I didn't even know you needed all this stuff for an online casino. To combat money laundering, I suppose? How much is the minimum? If you bet 10 and win 1000, do you still have to make a kyc?

Yes, these are AML Compliance measures, and measures to combat the "financing of terrorism" in general.
In general, you also have minimum wages, and you can't withdraw money immediately after a deposit. Often, for online casinos, you need to have gambled between 15% and 30% of your deposit for your withdrawal to be accepted without concern.

KYC depends more on the regulators (ANJ in France - as you are French, but it could be BGC in Belgium for example, no matter), and the laws they apply. A casino regulated in the Cayman Islands will not have the same KYC / POA / EDD policy as one regulated in the UK. Unregulated casinos sometimes ask for documents too, on a case-by-case basis.

As regulators and local laws become increasingly complex to avoid, and the penalties incurred are very heavy for casinos that don't comply, it doesn't surprise me that we've seen a general tightening of these measures in recent years.
When a casino asks for endless KYC it's rarely(never actually) because of AML compliance measures. If they had concerned about that, they would have asked him to complete KYC once he had deposited his funds, not when he wants to withdraw them.
Weirdly we never see them asking KYC++ to losers, they never need more documents to take our money when we lose...  Roll Eyes
Sadly Willowbitcoin seems to be a winner, and has been flagged as good bettor(sport bettor I guess), so they will find the most ridiculous excuses to not pay him.

It is a legitimate account so I was more worried about account sustainability and getting limited rather than having my balance "stolen".  I never considered it a possibility.  The annoying this is, I had plenty of opportunities to withdraw as that figure represents a grind over time from a $750 deposit to $6000 ( helped by bitcoin appreciation )
Im sure the OP bet on sports and he was a winner. .. Actually i dont think it has anything to do with AML.   i noticed when someone bet on spoelrts large amounts or won large amounts in sports then they start a lot of KYC things. I dont know what nature of deal a casino or stake specially habe with the sports odds provider probably its a revenue share deal so this KYC comes from the sports provider same as Rollbit a lot of issue with Rollbit banning custumers and most  of that customers bet on sports and winners . it makes me believe its the sports odd provider who flag the accounts.
While some guys who bet on inhouse games rarely get a KYC triggered.  Same as in Primedice its also owned by Stake but they never required any KYC even for large amounts  and its also a curacao regulated.  So you guys stop talking about AML.


This is a very sharp post. I don't think this case has to do with AML.

However, this is stake.com, a reputable sportsbook. What reputable sportsbooks do is limit the account of someone who they speculate might be a winning professional sportsbettor. I ask again, why would stake.com harm their reputation for only $6000? This is a very small amount for them which they can pay very easily.

Also, @Willowbitcoin also mentioned that he used a VPN when he went overseas in a banned jurisdiction. This might be a something similar to a breach in stake.com's terms and conditions.
1477  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance to suspend GBP deposits/withdrawal on: July 01, 2023, 04:28:33 AM
On the regulators of Germany's refusal to approve Binance's application for license, there are many clickbait headlines being created behind this. Binance can still operate in Germany but it only cannot advertise in the country.

There is no impact on the users' ability to deposit, withdraw, buy or sell.



As of February 2023, Binance had as many as 2 million German users, per Wirtschaftswoche, which makes the exchange one of the biggest platforms in the country. Moreover, even if Binance doesn’t have a license in Germany, technically users can still navigate and use the exchange.

Source https://decrypt.co/146699/germanys-bafin-rejects-binance-crypto-custody-license-report
1478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will another ETF be immediately bullish for Bitcoin? on: July 01, 2023, 03:41:58 AM
It was interesting to me the Fidelity filed their ETF and then the SEC made a statement about ETF filings being incomplete and then Fidelity immediately updated their filing to show that Coinbase would be the custodian of their Bitcoin. This shows me that the SEC is in close talks with these banks and an ETF approval is right on the horizon.

What was shocking for me was the market's immediate reaction to the news. The market made a big dump on everyone's faces which might imply that there were many traders who were waiting for the latest news updates on the ETF hehehe. However, this also implies that if the next news update is positive, we might witness a big pump!

1479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [INFO]Hong Kong's HSBC Allows Customers to Trade Bitcoin. on: July 01, 2023, 02:33:26 AM
If you do not read the news on the recent developments on China, Hong Kong and the cryptospace, I have shared articles about this topic a few times. If you also read between the lines, good chance that China will open up and try to be the leader. I might get the year wrong when I said Shanghai will be approved for accepting the cryptospace on 2025, however, they will have no choice but to open up if they want to continue pushing for their blockchain ambitions.

Why do you mix blockchain as a technology and cryptocurrencies that use it? What does it matter that China may want to be a leader in blockchain technologies? Does this have any impact on Bitcoin or any of the top altcoins, will CEX across China open up and will crypto mining become legal again?

Hehe I am not mixing anything, when I said blockchain it pertains also to the cryptospace and cryptocoins. If it is the wrong word to use, for this discussion we use cryptospace.

In any case, these are only my own thoughts and my own speculations based on all of the news and articles that I have read. The answer is yes, China's cryptospace ambitions will have an impact on bitcoin and much of the cryptospace. I cannot be certain about crypto mining, however, we might witness regulated cryptocoin trading for institutional and retail investors in Shanghai very much similar to what they have done in Hong Kong on June 2.
1480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Bitcoin Cash is pumping, why? on: June 30, 2023, 03:51:38 AM
I only begun to notice when people in social media were saying to stop shorting it to avoid causing a short squeeze which will only cause it to pump higher.

I am not quite certain why it is pumping, however, there are rumors that TUSD is being printed to pump Bitcoin Cash. I will collect more information and share them in this thread. If anyone has news, rumors and speculations on why this is happening, please share them.
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