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1501  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Please help me understand the no border ideology on: March 30, 2017, 12:17:08 AM
It means smugglers of every kind
It means people from every kind
it means trouble from every kind

It means less chance to get a job
it means over run public services
it means house prices go up
it means wages go down or stagnate
it means less chance to own a house if on the welfare
it means more chance of getting robbed
It means more chance of getting murdered
it means more chance of the native women getting raped

But other than that  Grin  everything is fine ..  Roll Eyes



This sounds like low income crime. You can't really attribute this to race or religion; these crimes exist everywhere some people have more than other people. This would be the same in the slums of Ohio, Chicago, London, hell, even North Korea.

And a staggering statistic on rape; the overwhelming majority of rape is conducted by an acquaintance. Thus would be a friend, or a neighbor, IR even a family member. Usually, not a random ass stranger. You would do more.to prevent 'native female' rape by removing said females from their communities, statistically speaking.
1502  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: March 29, 2017, 10:46:07 PM
Bitcoin can go to zero if forks / be to centralized / someoe will have quantum computer and decrypt priv keys and DUMP all BTC to 0.
Real money like cigarettes/alcohol/drugs/gold/silver/art will NEVER go to 0 ... even fait banknote can not go to 0 u can use it to fire and heat house Smiley

Bitcoin can go to 0 value this is main difference.

This pretty much sums it up..Bitcoins are cool and all, but they are magic internet money..that is, bitcoin only exists as long as you are in a wifi field. As much as I love bitcoin, cash has some distinct advantages you just can't get past: Actual private,.untraceable transactions, instant liquidity in most markets around the world,  and I can hold it in my hand.

Cash is king.
1503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What cryptocurrency is solving the scaling problem? on: March 29, 2017, 10:39:00 PM
none

others are OK because their market cap and usage is low, but if they ever grows closer to BTC usage then things won't be better with them regarding escalation and other issues

I've always wondered this about certain coins. For example, I pretty much never see congestion on DOGE, LTC, and ETH/ETC. Is it a function of being underused, or have they actually solved the traffic issue? But from a meta perspective, I can see where no coin is really up to the task. If any one coin actually processed a real fraction of the transactions that ACH/SWIFT sees, it would pretty much have to bog down the network. But I'm no tech expert.
1504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no competition on: March 29, 2017, 10:02:41 PM
I think altcoins are the one that should be considered as competitor of Bitcoin.  But alas, it seems Bitcoin is a mile up ahead agains this altcoin competitor.  they may have the technology bu Bitcoin have the base users.  that alon can dictate on which one will be successful compared to other cryptocurrency.

That is what I think too, alt coins are the competition of bitcoin. But upon seeing on what's happening nowadays, the competition with alt coins are just because of this drama and politics. I thought it's alarming when I saw some alts pumping but in the end that's just made by those whales that wants to convert their bitcoin to something more profitable.

you don't really see that ETH is choping BTC userbase Cheesy ?
Current drama and stagnation of 2 years with scaling costed network current problems and btc lost some user-base to alts.
I hope they will solve problems sooner than later.
If BTC community will give momentum to ETH it will eant with flip-flap of market cap.

As a bitcoin maximalist, I'm starting to have to agree with this statement. Bitcoin doesn't exist in a vacuum anymore, and the latest debacle saw a lot of money move to ETH, that could have stayed in BTC. I think there is space for additional coins, but not because BTC faltered.
1505  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Duterte is most genius leader in the world agree? on: March 29, 2017, 09:57:52 PM
I agree ,because he serves the nation without fear.Because he is the master strategist.Her sincerity and his foreign policy. I believe he bring for the good of the people and country.

What is his strategy, pray tell? Kill his tax base? Foster corruption in his administration? Cede over territorial water claims to the Chinese? Break/question a long standing military agreement with the US of A, the leading world military power?/

Well, he might have been clairvoyant with the last one Wink
1506  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Discover New Possibilities with the Samsung Galaxy S8 on: March 29, 2017, 09:53:58 PM
What do you think about smartphones "Samsung" and are you ready to change your IPhone to Samsung? Personally, I don't use all the features of your smartphone and think that if it was less and the price would have been lower. https://news.samsung.com/global/discover-new-possibilities-with-the-samsung-galaxy-s8-a-smartphone-without-limits

You sound quite the shill at the moment. Not to be mean, but what in the vluest fuck does this have to do with politics?

Also, hard to swallow 'news' about a 'product''/when the news comes from the product manufacturer.
1507  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Please help me understand the no border ideology on: March 29, 2017, 04:20:35 PM
You have it backwards.

Society tries to get to where one person (starving in isolation) in the wilderness is, but society is hampered by (selfish desires and self-gain) technology and other fake appendages.

A person who leaves society does not strive to create the disease they had in society. Look at the Amish and many other very civilized groups whose laws are more natural. They don't ask for paper and they don't offer it. If our modern society were made of people who could live on their own, without gangsterism, there would not be any discussion needed.

A man who is starving in isolation out in the wilderness can gain possession of his own soul, his own free will, his own share of god. It is much easier for a man to overcome his sinful desires while he is starving in isolation because he possesses his own willpower. Society tries to achieve this through growth, by possessing greater numbers of new souls (more children, more births, more expansion, more invasion). When jesus fasted for forty days in the desert he was able to perform miraculous feats but as soon as he began eating again in a social environment he slowly began losing power. And when the cops put hands on him and imprisoned him, I imagine the roman empire took complete possession of his free will.

The amish are much less sinful than the rest of america, so they don't have as much opposition or punishment to worry about. They don't have to live in fear of being invaded or seized by enemies. Look what happens to people who regularly use heroin or methamphetamine. They always end up losing their jobs/homes/savings/families. That's an example of spiritual forces working their magic, causing people to suffer for their sins.

I perceived the power of fasting in the Bible as a result of no distraction. The isolation allows one to be closer to God, to align yourself with his will. When you are on the same path, you gain access to all of the things one needs to navigate the path Wink

Also, substance is spiritual gravity. Mammon is all substance; our concern for our substance is what usually makes us sin. You surround yourself with substance, you suffer the woes of substance. Society hovers somewhere between spirituality and substance, a partial construct of both. It, like all things, can be a distraction.
1508  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: March 29, 2017, 11:40:55 AM
As long as the People get to vote for the taxes that are imposed taxes cannot be theft.

Can't agree. Everyone gets to vote (although in some countries, felons are not eligible to take part in the electoral process). If you are restricting the voting rights just to the tax payers, then I would have agreed with you. But that is not the case.
If you vote, only those who pay taxes to protect the country and to serve in the army too, would they? Not fair turns out. Have no right to vote because you don't pay taxes, and give or at least risk their lives for the state obliged. Where is the logic?

Being part of a government is knowing that sometimes the will of the people will differ from ones individual desires. If the process was legit (*cough*Trump*cough*), then you have to deal with choices one's elected officials make. For better, or for worse. So the no taxation without representation thing breaks down in modern society; for every tax you pay, some will benefit your demographic, some will benefit out groups. It should never directly hinder any group, lest it's broken. But, with taxes, you can't win em all. You reap the benefits of modern society; you pay its dues.
1509  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Scottish Parliament voted for the new referendum on independence on: March 29, 2017, 11:34:48 AM
The Scots must secede from the United Kingdom. Else, in a few decades, they will find themselves a part of some Islamic Caliphate. Already London and most of the English cities are more than 20% Muslim. They should declare their independence, and make Gaelic as the official language.

Dammit, we had almost made it through the conversation without Muslims coming up, LOL.

Even if they want Independence, they should have to wait until Brexit is a little further along the way. It is uncertain, at best, what the effects of Brexit will be on the world economy. If this might be an event that tips us into a global recession, then, let's not hasten it, and let's not throw all our marbles on the ground, just because we spilled a few. Let's do this thing like we have some good sense.

But on the topic of national spirit, I see such a strong culture here that I don't perceive it will be subverted by the presence of Muslims. But, that's conjecture.
1510  Other / Politics & Society / Re: EU summons Filipino envoy to explain Duterte tirade on: March 29, 2017, 11:25:20 AM
MANILA, Philippines — The European Union on Monday summoned a Philippine envoy to explain an expletive-laden tirade by President Rodrigo Duterte, who threatened to hang EU officials for opposing his efforts to re-impose the death penalty.

The EU's external action service, the equivalent of a foreign office, said it hauled Charge d'Affaires Alan Deniega in to its Brussels headquarters to provide "an explanation for the recent, unacceptable comments of President Duterte."

The move highlights growing European exasperation with the president. Earlier, the EU denied his allegations that it proposed solving the Philippines' drug problem by creating treatment clinics where illegal drugs such as methamphetamine or cocaine would be dispensed.

The EU Delegation to the Philippines issued a statement saying it has not "suggested, discussed, proposed or considered the use of any substitution drugs when treating addiction to methamphetamine ... or any other drug addiction in the Philippines." It did not mention Duterte by name.

Duterte, who has lashed out at the EU repeatedly for raising human rights concerns over his deadly crackdown on illegal drugs, said in a speech Friday the EU had proposed a "health-based solution" to the drug problem that involved dispensing methampetamine, locally known as shabu, cocaine or heroin.

He branded the supposed EU proposal a "government-sponsored idiotic exercise."

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/03/28/1685390/eu-summons-filipino-envoy-explain-duterte-tirade




This guy was the original Trump, I just didn't see it because I was looking at the actual Trump. Instead of tweeting, Duerte actually says the crazy shit out loud, at the podium, in front of everyone.

But seriously, he is walking a very fine line. His actions are clearly illegal, but his statements are going to be his downfall. He's too boastful about the killings, too callous in the application. He knows regular folks are getting caught up in this. He's not really solving the problem, just treating the symptoms. 

But I see sentiment is shifting enough (he seemed to have a following similar to Trump, devoted fans that can perceive no wrong). Parliament is making moves seemingly to hold him accountable. But, it seems pretty corrupt over there politically, it will be easy for him to hinder the effort in that political climate.
1511  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Donald Trump Independent ? on: March 29, 2017, 11:17:36 AM


Is it safe to say that Donald Trump "Make America great again" is Independent and not controlled by the elites (Rockfeller's , Rotchschild's etc.. ) or he is just like every other president the U.S had , a puppet ? If he is not then are we going to see the same end that JFK had ?

I think Donald Trump is very independent not like OBAMA that was control by the elites, and  politicians such as Rothschild, Rockefeller, bill Clinton and those that control the media. Trump will definitely going to be the best president American ever produced.

Eventually, we will stop believing in monolithic evil for its own sake.

Also, hell to the no Trump is independent. He is following the ultra right/alt right playbook ATM, that's decidedly red. Trump has Russia as his master, and the corporate interest his administration serves (there is s reason why defunding the EPA was a campaign slogan). So we will strip away environmental regulations, and worker safeties, and promote coal. And we will lower corporate taxes. Sound familiar? It is. Old school Rebuplican textbook. This is trickle down economics, dusted off and cleaned up with a new label. A populist label.
1512  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mr. Trump - To the tune of "Bring Back my Bonnie to me" on: March 29, 2017, 11:07:53 AM
Unfortunately you're not the only one don't trust Trump. I see that none of the leaders of the allies of the United States does not want to meet this jerk. Frau Merkel met with him and this led to another scandal. Paradoxically, the faster it will be removed from power, the faster America will become great.

We apologize for him handing her a NATO invoice, if it's true. We know better, it's just, he's hard to control at times.
1513  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How to solve the shariaists spread in Japan? on: March 28, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Sharia law is not even implemented in all Muslim countries. So I think that to say that these laws will be implemented in other countries is silly. This will not happen. Sharia law is medieval. The world has long been living in another dimension.
Amen. People also get the application of Sharia legal principles mixed up with actual governing under Sharia. If you are Muslim, some of the principles of other legal bodies don't agree with the edicts of your faith. Like taxes, for example. Or property disputes and property ascension rights (they are a tad different in the Koran). And besides, Japan is pretty xenophobic on its own. Hard to see a Maslim majority there.
1514  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elon Musk on: March 28, 2017, 04:39:53 PM
Elon Musk has announced the recruitment of scientific staff in implementing another of his ideas. He wants to implant people with brain electrodes for data exchange and computer control. What do you think about this?

Haven't read about this, but this doesn't sound feasible. While there has been some progress in the area, particularly with locked in patients and communication, actual implantation seems at least a decade away, given the red tape you have to wade to even conduct this research. Would be pretty cool, but this is a lot of R and D money that could be better spent at Tesla, or SolarCity. And I feel it would take a few years for software to catch up with a direct human communication paradigm.
And how "smart" prostheses, which are controlled by thoughts? The same already for a long time. Why do you think that it is impossible to manage the computer. I believe that this is possible. Another thing is that I would not interfere in the activities of your brain. If something goes wrong?

There has been progress in this field now for a few years. I was just thinking about the prostheses that are controlled by your thoughts and also send touch sensations back into your brain. We have already figured out how to make this work.

I think this is a great idea. I would be into having the first chip installed. I just need it to be removable and upgrade able.



I agree we have the technology, to an extent; I'm just saying the research so far has been to specific medical ends. To do this, for industry or consumer technology, that's a different sell. This would pretty much have to be privately funded research.


I think this is a great idea. I would be into having the first chip installed. I just need it to be removable and upgrade able.

Give me three generations. They should have worked the bugs out by then, and I read entirely too much science fiction growing up to become a 'chip zombie' if someone fucks it all up, LOL.

If PlayStation needs three generations, actually, let me get 10.
1515  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The success of iron dome!! on: March 28, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
There is no need to flatten Gaza. On the other hand, I have a very viable solution for that place. Israel should annex the West Bank, and deport all the Muslims living there to the Gaza Strip. Let them breed like rabbits there.

Judea must be freed in it's fullness of the shariaists invasive species. Of course te west bank will be cleared of those. But I don't think it s possible to exploit gaza in such matter. They breed to fast. Furthermore the coast will be nice once recivilized and there are too many security risks to be let standing.

So flattening is the only option.

Another aspect is that it would raise tensions in the west with the invaders and as such following the ensuing chaos may lead to a definitive solving of the problem. The more it is waited the more problematic it will necessary be.

There are only 2 options: surrendering to their ideology or total war, like in hiroshima, nagasaki, dresde and co.

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But I thought the territory in question was being occupied by Israel?

If the stated wishes of both States is a two state solution, at least on paper ( I will say the settlement of the occupied territory, in clear defiance of global legal.consensus, is bad faith) then why would we want to subvert that process, through this? The third option is peaceful negotiation. It's a stretch, but an option you can never take off the table, lest we get rhetoric like yours.

And the situation is about two steps from actual  apartheid, but that's another elephant in the room.

A racial war, is a civil war. And when it's with unmatched force, it's a genocide. And there is absolutely no pride in genocide.
1516  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elon Musk on: March 28, 2017, 02:20:52 PM
Elon Musk has announced the recruitment of scientific staff in implementing another of his ideas. He wants to implant people with brain electrodes for data exchange and computer control. What do you think about this?

Haven't read about this, but this doesn't sound feasible. While there has been some progress in the area, particularly with locked in patients and communication, actual implantation seems at least a decade away, given the red tape you have to wade to even conduct this research. Would be pretty cool, but this is a lot of R and D money that could be better spent at Tesla, or SolarCity. And I feel it would take a few years for software to catch up with a direct human communication paradigm.
1517  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Please help me understand the no border ideology on: March 28, 2017, 02:02:00 PM
This political ideology is gaining a lot of supporters. I need to understand the advantages and problems that such a world conception carry. I would like to know why some support and what would some gain of it and what would other lose. Thank you in advance, my aim is to have an open minded honnest discussion on the topic.

My current understanding, i hope that you wil be able to enlighten me on other perspectives and facts i don't see.

Positive i guess that the ideal of universal right to establish oneself where ever is interesting. Increase mobility opportunity, job seeking and competition opportunity, a more diverse cultural field and less restrictions.

Negative, i see that most breed like invasive species, slums and unsanitary living conditions expanding, security risks, the loss of cultural homogenity, most third world places got there because of their values what would prevent them to impose those everywhere they get dominance, the overcrowding of civilised places, lack of infrastructure and living spaces, the drop of job wages, the collapse of social and public services, the spread of roamers and bandits tribes.

Your turn...

Btw 5billions people have less average income than mexicans... it's a lot.

I dont understand the need to preserve cultural homogenity. No cultures exist in a vacuum; and most cultures are smart enough to assimilate best practice/, most efficient methods from the culture it hosts (music, cuisine, language conventions, even fashion).  And out groups have no problem maintaining their culture when they are abroad, they cluster into communities to reinforce the parts of their culture they wish to keep.

So why do certain populist leaning politics have an appeal? Surely it's obvious that homogenity results in stagnation. Rather than stand alone, participate in the evolution of the whole.
1518  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Yeah, Obama tapped his phone. Nobody thought he'd win. Now the country is fukt. on: March 28, 2017, 12:49:22 PM
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And the literal majority of people voted for her. He won the EC, which has been gleefully pointed out many times by the Trump camp. Followed by, 'deal with it, snowflake'. So no, the majority of citizens would have preferred he sat his orange ass down and never been elected.

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Deal with it, snowflake.

I'm melting!!

Naw, I give few fucks. Russiagate will get him out of office, I don't even have to butch about it Wink
1519  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: March 27, 2017, 06:26:27 PM
Are terrorists only Muslim in religion? No air,we so a good job raising them up here ourselves. Observe:

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/24/white-supremacist-who-traveled-to-new-york-to-murder-black-men-followed-extremist-racist-online-groups-who-support-trump_partner/

You can look it up, it's common news.

Hilariously, despite the fact that this is radical terrorism, radical Christian terrorism to be exact, our POTUS hasn't commented on this yet. He did, however, find time to point out the Londn attacks, which, arguably, have much higher fatalities, but America first, right?
1520  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Osama bin Laden: FAKE Dead Body Picture! on: March 27, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
So you think that Bin Laden is a hyped up story and there is no one by that name and the US created everything to frighten people,what a crap,he has his roots from Saudi and he is from a well know Saudi business family and he is an Engineer and he set out to fight for the Afghans when Soviet conquered them and during that time the US helped them with all the weapons and money and then at a later stage they turned against the US and that is the same story with ISIS.

Osama bin Laden was an ally of the United States for many decades, before going against his former sponsors. The Americans went by the "enemy of the enemy is my friend" logic, and in the end they got their figures burnt. Bin Laden and his group of terrorists were given American weapons, and many of them were trained in Pakistan by the American military trainers.



This is truth. And the implications of this are pretty grave. That same training has passed along the years, among the various radical organizations in the region. How many of the techniques that Isis uses today, were ultimately introduced to the region by Osama's American handlers? One doesn't just develop military expertise in a vacuum.

How much of 'radical Islamic terror' is our fault? Just like, after Operation Fast and Furious, how much of the opium problem is our fault? We are building a wall now, but we gave the 'bad hombres' guns just a few years ago. Might not be so hard to keep them out, if we didn't arm them.
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