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1541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 19, 2020, 11:26:45 AM
Just got a notice from the IRS, I owe them $1.9 million dollars, lol.  Coinbase assholes sent them a 1099-k  saying I had 3.7 million in payment transactions.  I wish it was 10% of that, talked to my accountant and we will send them docs to correct.

my coinbase 1099s have been some crazy numbers but thats not what the irs taxes you by, it just how much money has gone in and out of coinbase. that number is not the taxable amount its the total amount thats passed through. some is taxable (if you made a profit), some not (ie you lost money and also they dont tax money you sent there, even though those figures are included in the 1099). the irs gets a copy of that and i give a copy to my accountant also to send in with the rest of the paperwork.

to get the actual taxes owed i just import my coinbase (and other exchange) transactions into a crypto tax program and sent it all off to my accountant. so far not a peep from the irs.

I don't use Coinbase. However it doesn't make sense why they report to the IRS the amount of deposits/withdraws when they should just report the amount of PnL by the trades that took place.

If someone buys 1 BTC at $17.9K on one exchange, sends it to coinbase, then it will appear as if they received $17.9K with a cost basis of $0? If they also withdraw this amount weekly and send it back because they want to keep some on cold storage, won't each deposit also add up the balances? Hence I dont understand why they use this method.

Crypto taxes are a pain, especially if you are trading BTC pairs like ETHBTC because there is an extra step in calculations that need to be taken.

oh i agree 100% the 1st 1099 i got from them (before i know how they "calculated" it) was a real eye opener. its why i use a crypto tax program, it lines everything up from the various exchanges so everything comes out in an order and format the irs understands. then i check the actual straight up deposits/withdrawals to and from the bank and personal wallets (not trades, just money and btc in/out) to make sure they are correctly not taxed (they have not been). kinda a pain but then again taxes are not meant to be fun i guess.

theres a form that has as you say the real profit/loss (another variant of the 1099 i believe) but for whatever reason they dont use it.

i dislike coinbase for some past actions (especially that team they hired that had to do with tracking down that dude that was killed especially rankles me.. i forgot the details so i may have some of that wrong) but as a usa citizen, in the land of the *cough*  free, its one of the few legal on/off ramps i can use.

at least theyve never done me wrong and ive been with them close to a decade. thats about the only good thing i can say about them.

and yes they track the living shit outta you but i never expected otherwise.
1542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 19, 2020, 02:01:58 AM
Just got a notice from the IRS, I owe them $1.9 million dollars, lol.  Coinbase assholes sent them a 1099-k  saying I had 3.7 million in payment transactions.  I wish it was 10% of that, talked to my accountant and we will send them docs to correct.

my coinbase 1099s have been some crazy numbers but thats not what the irs taxes you by, it just how much money has gone in and out of coinbase. that number is not the taxable amount its the total amount thats passed through. some is taxable (if you made a profit), some not (ie you lost money and also they dont tax money you sent there, even though those figures are included in the 1099). the irs gets a copy of that and i give a copy to my accountant also to send in with the rest of the paperwork.

to get the actual taxes owed i just import my coinbase (and other exchange) transactions into a crypto tax program and sent it all off to my accountant. so far not a peep from the irs.
1543  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fees are now low.. take advantage of bech32 full segwit and save on: November 19, 2020, 01:37:26 AM
there is a disadvantage to consolidating all your addresses/inputs/whatevers. and that is say you have 10 btc spread in 20 or 30 addresses. maybe the most in one addy is 0.35 btc. if you send btc to someone from that addy thats all they see you have.. that 0.35 btc. if all had been consolidated that person now would know you have 10 btc.

i prefer a lot of various sized utxos to select from so that i can send just enough, and not give away how much coin i may have.

ill accept the extra cost.

edit: probably got some terminology wrong, feel free to correct please.
1544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2020, 06:24:18 PM
Maybe we should make a list of things we bought with BTC and how much they now cost... What's sad is that most of those things are not worth any more now than they did when we bought them. So, we effectively gave something which was (still is, and very likely will be) hugely appreciating in value, to obtain something that has kept (and most likely lost) its value.

Not saying we should indefinitely HoDL. But wasting those precious sats when we can have what we want with our fiat income? Not so sure it's a wise move...

tl;dr: HoDL (for now). Don't waste BTC for a cup of coffee. It's meant for BIGGER things!

i bought like 5 games off steam when they took btc. id have to check the prices at the time but probably comes 15-20k USD per game at this price point today. so call it say around 100 grand. even played a couple of them. and didnt finish any of them.

edit

yeah had one of these too.


1545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 09:16:38 PM
Coinbase down again? What a shit show.

https://status.pro.coinbase.com/

Oh dear, this is never a good sign when it's unexpected. I also just got the same error message  Undecided This usually means some whales want to pump or dump a large amount, I'd assume the latter personally. I'd like to believe the server is just "overloaded", but I remember the same thing happening last time we were around the same price a few years ago...

Edit: Price is still trading on Coinbase (from TradingView) despite the lack of access to Coinbase Pro...

best part? you can still xfer coins in (i just did and a block explorer says its confirmed, although really nothing can stop a xfer to an addy), but ya cant do anything useful with it atm as of course i cant see or access it on coinbase. i wonder if orders are still executing.

maybe ill dump coinbase and go the paypal route lol
1546  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 08:07:32 PM
I've put all science, math, TA and FA together and one conclusion I can make with certainty, is that vapourminer's snooze button sucks.



observing $16,932 USD at the place.

yawn. wake me up up 17,500 or thereabouts. so i can hit the snooze button again.

well its pretty well known that i can sleep through anything. or maybe the snooze button is worn out.

at this price i guess i can buy another alarm clock. one with an air horn hooked up to it or something.
1547  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 11:28:34 AM
observing $16,932 USD at the place.

yawn. wake me up up 17,500 or thereabouts. so i can hit the snooze button again.

1548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Regrets? Past BTC Sale(s that would look CRAZY Today! Poll. :( on: November 16, 2020, 05:45:23 PM
i regret testing oddball wallets back when btc was like $2 USD. send 5 or 10 btc to a test wallet, blow up the test wallet or lose it. in those days it was like pfffftt its only a few btc (worth maybe 10 or 15 bucks back then say) in the wallet, too little money to expend much time or effort into fixing or finding it. so i just basically forgot about them.

wish i had those blown/lost wallets now, i sure as heck would try to recover them these days  Tongue
1549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: November 16, 2020, 04:24:33 PM
We all wondered what would happen with 'competing implementations' and this is doing an admirable job of informing us. It continues squabbling and splintering until it's an absolute laughable irrelevance.

Cheers, guys.

is this, like, paycoin 2.0 ? only slimier?
1550  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin movement launches its first limited edition streetware collection on: November 16, 2020, 12:34:24 PM
Bitcoin clothing.. The designs look decent and all, but that's definitely one great way to get $5 wrench attacked..

https://cryptosec.info/wrench-attack/

yeah i bought some bitcoin tshirts years ago (2014/15 i think). used to wear them out all the time.

now i dont. wrenches are getting more expensive than $5 bucks (inflation ya know) but they still hurt.
1551  Other / Serious discussion / Re: What wallet do you prefer? on: November 15, 2020, 01:24:10 PM
for desktop (small amounts) - core, and thats been since 2011 (i have and use the same wallet.dat that was created in 2011)
for phone (small amounts) - mycelium
for cold storage - paper
for general use - trezor
1552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2020, 12:52:35 PM
observing 15.995k USD at that exchange.

i can live with that. for now.

1553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2020, 12:37:08 PM
Taking an extra 250mg of Thiamine (five times the usual dose) resolved all this within a matter of three days.

Five? Are you sure about that? The US RDA for Thiamine is about 1.2mg/day.

And you accept their suggestion?

the only figure i pay attention to concerning dosages are the LD50 amounts
1554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 14, 2020, 01:34:03 PM
Its fun getting started with rigs again. 

i had withdrawal issues when i didnt have any gear running, always had seti/folding rigs before bitcoin or gpu/fpga/asics for bitcoin for the longest time. stopped for a year when asics became beasts that were not really home friendly and couldnt stand it, so built a gpu shitcoin rig just to have that nice white noise hum in the basement heh
1555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2020, 12:57:15 PM
Maybe it's all those times my cats have pushed of my desk.

Se, now it missed "it".

And now "e"

See what I have to work with here.

couple of my keyboards have removable caps (gaming keyboards with mechanical switches) and one of my cats discovered how easy it is to pull caps off with her claws. she was very thorough, only left a few on, probably got bored.

now, loose keycaps skitter across hardwood floors extremely well and also fit down the air return vents in the floor. i just wound up buying a full replacement set.

i still find keycaps even now..
1556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2020, 12:22:58 PM
NB I don't condone the use of organs without the expressed consent of their previous owners.

edit: Why the hell does a lambo cost more than a set of lungs installed?


yeah and the resale value of the lungs probably doesnt deprecate either. sounds like the better deal to me.

@phil. heres to a speedy recovery to you and your wife.
1557  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2020, 11:58:57 AM
To anyone who is not a complete moron I simply say wear a respirator with P100 filters. MSA makes a nice model that does the job even if a POS coughs on you.

properly fitted p100s are easier to breath through than n95s anyway, and are actually pretty comfortable. i used p100s for years in my line of work so maybe im just used to them.

and nothing gives more peace of mind knowing than aint nothing getting through them, basically.

one thing i did do is buy a couple brands with different fittings so i would have a better supply of cartridges in case one brand had a shortage. although if left sealed the carts have a pretty good shelf life.
1558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 13, 2020, 03:57:54 PM
Please note that selling btc on coinbase into other coins or cash 💵 may create a tax reportable event.

A tax reportable event  may or may not mean you owe tax.

Ie buy 2 coins in dec 2017 for 32000 I sell it for 32000 in Nov 2020.

the transaction is over 20000 it is reportable.

 no loss no gain so no tax obligation. but reportable.

note all usa tax law. above. also I am not a tax expert and this is not advice.

yeah i always cash in an extra 20-30% or so and keep it in fiat as this prevents unpleasant surprises if the price tanks; i just stick it in a cd or something. it may leave profits on the table but i have no urge to owe the irs money or have to sell coin at a crappy price. or sell any other assets to cover taxes.
1559  Economy / Speculation / Re: My 'vast' BTC hodl on PayPal on: November 13, 2020, 03:46:18 PM
So, I just read the news. Apparently PayPal has now removed the waiting list and gone live with Bitcoin trading in the US. I actually STILL can't see any changes to my PayPal dashboard, nothing's changed at all, so am I one of the unlucky few whose accounts are deemed unworthy of Bitcoin buying?

Or is this a country issue?

couple weeks ago i checked my paypal account of 10 years of mostly buying, no selling and i keep no money there, its just to pay for things. i too wound up with "you are now on the waiting list." havent checked since that new announcement though. USA here.
1560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 13, 2020, 12:47:25 PM
I've always thought, that if I retired, I'd probably need to maintain at least double my salary coming in just to pay for all the things I'd need to do to stop me getting bored out of my mind.
That being the case, I'm not going to retire anytime soon, even if MoonTM.

my retirement goal required three times what i figured was the "normal" amount i needed. took longer but i do like huge safety margins.

and boredom? i have never been bored in my entire life. i have far too many interests and hobbies. i love learning and trying new things (and have the scars and broken bones to attest to that).

ive never understand how someone can get bored.
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