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1621  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Developments Thread on: January 12, 2014, 12:34:52 PM
http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/digital-currency-bitcoin-tested/

Interesting article about regulation etc.
1622  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Developments Thread on: January 12, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
http://nypost.com/2014/01/12/first-bitcoin-atm-to-debut-in-nyc/

Bitcoin ATM opening in NY
1623  Economy / Speculation / Re: Warning: Huobi has closed their personal bank accounts system on: January 12, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
This is FUD.

Read it properly like this:

Re-posted as good news:

"Huobi have now switched to funding using a business account where as previously account funding was being made to the CEO's personal account.
The option to fund to his personal account has been removed. This could be good news because the bank has obviously agreed this is OK.
RMB transfer to Huobi's business bank account with China Construction Bank, also registered in Shangdi, Beijing, account number 1100 1045 3000 5301 4342 (does Not support ATM deposits or third-party transfers)."

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v0y3m/huobi_account_funding_switched_to_a_bank_business/
1624  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2014, 12:06:56 PM
Re-posted as good news:

"Huobi have now switched to funding using a business account where as previously account funding was being made to the CEO's personal account.
The option to fund to his personal account has been removed. This could be good news because the bank has obviously agreed this is OK.
RMB transfer to Huobi's business bank account with China Construction Bank, also registered in Shangdi, Beijing, account number 1100 1045 3000 5301 4342 (does Not support ATM deposits or third-party transfers)."

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v0y3m/huobi_account_funding_switched_to_a_bank_business/

Might be wise to put Mythul on ignore!  Grin
1625  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
If the Hodlers keep running things so majestically, there's only one direction this baby can go.
1626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2014, 12:48:25 AM
Hmm. What's going on with stamp?

this



No this!!  Grin

1627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2014, 12:11:22 AM
1628  Economy / Speculation / Re: No coins and needing to buy back in on: January 11, 2014, 10:57:25 PM
You can't win them all.  Remember, the gains last weekend were erased early last week.  One should be very skeptical of huge surges like this over a weekend.  Be patient, all it takes are a few bad news days and the price will be back where you want it (or lower).  China is still highly unpredictable at this point.  The current price assumes a continued positive reception from US regulators and a neutral stance from China.  If Bitcoin truly threatens power structures, we should expect a more negative regulatory outlook worldwide.  This will be balanced to some degree by more business adoption.  Over time I believe the adoption rate will considerably counteract regulatory pressure on the price.  In the short term, however, expect massive corrections.  Picture a large exchange being shut down due to pressure on local authorities, for instance.  Plenty of things can go wrong.  In the longer term, Bitcoin will have to adjust to technical problems.  A hard fork or attempted double spending is guaranteed as mining power becomes consolidated or other unforseen problems arise.  The infrastructure will adjust, but there will be a massive price correction.  Be patient and profit from these corrections.

I believe you may be painting a slighty too bleak picture there.

1. We haven't really had a huge surge this weekend. It's been quite measured. Look at the day chart - we have not surged in the same way as last weekend; we are actually back to following the trend that has been steady for over three weeks now.

2. China is looking less and less bad as the days go on. It is looking increasingly likely that as long as Bitcoin doesn't blow up too quickly they will let it continue (backed up by sources in China). The January 31 deadline has been talked about so much people have got used to it. Who knows but my bet is it will be an anti-climax on the day.

3. At the moment there is no reason to believe that the US will change its remarkably positive stance. Lawmakers and authorities are scrambling to make a place for Bitcoin in the mainstream.

4. The exchanges are doing a lot of work to conform to demands from authorities. Have a look at this thread in service discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406908.0 Bitstamp for example is getting clients new and old to go through considerable KYC processes. Some people complain but why are they doing this? Because they are in for the long term and want to stick around as a big player on the exchange scene.

5. A hard fork or attempted double spending is not guaranteed at all. On the contrary I think people are working together to improve the security of the network.

You speak of "massive corrections" but I happen to think we do not need a correction. The China bubble is in fact a bump on the uptrend for 2014. I think in 2014 we will see the end of fast adrenalin-pumped run ups like we have seen in the past, and instead watch strong consistent growth with spikes here and there.
1629  Economy / Speculation / Re: No coins and needing to buy back in on: January 11, 2014, 10:35:48 PM
We may float more or less sideways for a few days, then again we might pop up over 1000 and do the same... I think we will be going over 1,000 for good a little sooner than towards the end of the month (my previous prediction. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!  Smiley
1630  Economy / Speculation / Re: 124000 USD from bitcoins order from Overstock.com on: January 11, 2014, 10:32:33 PM
One who buys only 900 USD worth of merchandise with 1 BTC obviously does not believe that 1 BTC will be worth 10,000 USD in 2015...  Wink

Got to get the economy going. It's part of the whole thing. If Overstock adopts Bitcoin and has zero sales what do you think will happen then? People spending now are doing every other Bitcoiner a huge service!
1631  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Time to go on a spending spree at Overstock! on: January 11, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
I bought several handbags!  So excited!  They were on sale 90% off too!  And I used the small amount of coin I still had on Gox.  That is one way to get rid of coins left there!  Grin

Please could you post a picture of those handbags when you can?  Smiley

Got a few different styles of these.  They will make nice gifts too.  I know most guys won't care though. Wink

http://www.overstock.com/Clothing-Shoes/Handbags/Gigi-Hill,/brand,/111/dept.html

1632  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2014, 03:34:06 PM

Go to sleep fast, because it isnt getting any better now that you are awake Cheesy

On the contrary it's going great floating around just under the 1000 mark. It's all about getting used to the idea of 4 figures over 3. As soon as that's done then there's only one direction left!  Grin



To DA MOON (and beyond)!!!  Grin

 Roll Eyes Well... First a short stopover at $9,999.  Grin
1633  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2014, 02:30:17 PM

Go to sleep fast, because it isnt getting any better now that you are awake Cheesy

On the contrary it's going great floating around just under the 1000 mark. It's all about getting used to the idea of 4 figures over 3. As soon as that's done then there's only one direction left!  Grin
1634  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2014, 12:42:22 PM
And to think people will look back and see 1000 as if it was 100, 10, 1...
1635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2014, 11:57:48 AM
Oh no we can't hold [insert maximum price here]
We are in for a fall back to [insert lowest price we can get away with here...converging on $500]

Quick! PM me your figures!  Cheesy
1636  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Developments Thread on: January 11, 2014, 11:41:28 AM
Sometimes I think we're speaking different languages Arepo but IMO that doesn't mean we have to apparently disagree on everything.  Smiley

haha it's just fun to poke fun at the more ridiculous claims you make, that's all. i wouldn't say we disagree on everything.

although i have to ask you, since there is quite a bit of good news in this thread, precisely which set is being priced-in right now, would you say? and how come everyone decided to buy at exactly the same time?

Back to Ockham's Razor Arepo. You know of course that according to Ockham's Razor the best theory does not necessarily have to be the most accurate. I do not have to pinpoint every single thing for my theory "Good news makes the price go up; bad news makes the price go down". And please don't start going into the different shades of good and bad and good really being bad and all that crap. Let's just say that generally if investors perceive something as good news then in my book it is good news.

Regarding why we see everyone deciding to buy at the same time, I have already explained my reasons for believing that those in fiat feel like they have less time on their hands than those in Bitcoin but I resume the main points below.

1. What could be the most significant change in market sentiment in the history of Bitcoin is fully underway and is progressing right now. Bitcoin has a serious mainstream future ahead.

2. Exchanges are playing catch up opening new accounts, processing KYC documents, transfers, etc.

3. Hodlers are taking charge of the market.
1637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Developments Thread on: January 11, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/business-economics/bitcoin-crash-never-came-72462/

More positive news. But remember all this positive news probably won't have any effect on prices as many of the experts here say.  Wink

it's clear that you don't actually take the time to read what no one except you is calling an expert opinion, anyway.

news gets priced-in gradually, mostly because not everyone hears about it at precisely the same time, not everybody reacts to it at precisely the same time, and not everybody reacts to it in precisely the same way. this is as simply as i can put it.

Just saying, it looks like its getting "priced in" a bit faster now!  Wink

ah yes.... how could i be so stupid.... correlation does imply causation! T "unsubstantiated claims" Stuart, at it again!

and i thought i'd have to wait at least a few hours to use your new nickname Tongue

Sometimes I think we're speaking different languages Arepo but IMO that doesn't mean we have to apparently disagree on everything.  Smiley
1638  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Developments Thread on: January 11, 2014, 11:07:20 AM
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/business-economics/bitcoin-crash-never-came-72462/

More positive news. But remember all this positive news probably won't have any effect on prices as many of the experts here say.  Wink

it's clear that you don't actually take the time to read what no one except you is calling an expert opinion, anyway.

news gets priced-in gradually, mostly because not everyone hears about it at precisely the same time, not everybody reacts to it at precisely the same time, and not everybody reacts to it in precisely the same way. this is as simply as i can put it.

Just saying, it looks like its getting "priced in" a bit faster now!  Wink
1639  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2014, 11:05:52 AM
THAR SHE BLOWS!!!!  Shocked

1640  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2014, 10:54:21 AM

a brief overview of your posts in the last three weeks shows that volume is one of your least-discussed data, actually.

--arepo

Do you remember when I PM'd you a couple of weeks back regarding the "green shoots" (please excuse my home-grown terminology)? That was a point about small changes in volume on the minute charts that I believed were signalling a break upwards, which happened. I have mentioned volume regularly but for the type of claims I am making in my posts it is not the most significant indicator.
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