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1341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Gox imploading before our very eyes???? on: January 26, 2014, 10:37:34 AM
Has the spread between stamp and Gox ever been so big??? Is this effectively a run on the Bitcoin bank, desperate buys fleeing to Bitcoin and heading for the btc-e and bitstamp hills?Huh


Don't know if you're watching but there are "desperate" buys on Stamp and Btc-e at the moment as well!

I am watching but Gox has leaped to near 1000 again and stamp and btc didn't care until the last hour. I think they are watching Gox and are thinking they are missing the train, but the fact they did nothing for 8 hours tells me Gox is become a joke almost overnight.


Gox has not been leaping anywhere for hours. It is BTC-e that just leaped by a long way. Here's the chart for you: http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/btcusd

Gox goes from 950-981 in the last 8 hours and BTCE actually tests 790 in the same window.... uhhhh

BTC-e up $33 in 2 hours. There's the leap for you.

Like I said, BTC-e and stamp ignored Gox for hours, and then responded.  Thanks for repeating my post.

BTC-e is not watching Gox. They are much larger than Gox. Everybody knows where the action is these days. They have known for a long time. The "Gox imploding" theme is tired already!
1342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Gox imploading before our very eyes???? on: January 26, 2014, 10:30:26 AM
Has the spread between stamp and Gox ever been so big??? Is this effectively a run on the Bitcoin bank, desperate buys fleeing to Bitcoin and heading for the btc-e and bitstamp hills?Huh


Don't know if you're watching but there are "desperate" buys on Stamp and Btc-e at the moment as well!

I am watching but Gox has leaped to near 1000 again and stamp and btc didn't care until the last hour. I think they are watching Gox and are thinking they are missing the train, but the fact they did nothing for 8 hours tells me Gox is become a joke almost overnight.


Gox has not been leaping anywhere for hours. It is BTC-e that just leaped by a long way. Here's the chart for you: http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/btcusd

Gox goes from 950-981 in the last 8 hours and BTCE actually tests 790 in the same window.... uhhhh

BTC-e up $33 in 2 hours. There's the leap for you.
1343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Gox imploading before our very eyes???? on: January 26, 2014, 10:21:29 AM
Has the spread between stamp and Gox ever been so big??? Is this effectively a run on the Bitcoin bank, desperate buys fleeing to Bitcoin and heading for the btc-e and bitstamp hills?Huh


Don't know if you're watching but there are "desperate" buys on Stamp and Btc-e at the moment as well!

I am watching but Gox has leaped to near 1000 again and stamp and btc didn't care until the last hour. I think they are watching Gox and are thinking they are missing the train, but the fact they did nothing for 8 hours tells me Gox is become a joke almost overnight.


Gox has not been leaping anywhere for hours. It is BTC-e that just leaped by a long way. Here's the chart for you: http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/btcusd
1344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Gox imploading before our very eyes???? on: January 26, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Has the spread between stamp and Gox ever been so big??? Is this effectively a run on the Bitcoin bank, desperate buys fleeing to Bitcoin and heading for the btc-e and bitstamp hills?Huh


Don't know if you're watching but there are "desperate" buys on Stamp and Btc-e at the moment as well!
1345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2014, 10:05:15 AM
Is BTC-e the biggest exchange by volume now?
1346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2014, 10:03:48 AM
Recovery started , led by Gox. Organic & natural. Cheesy

Led by BTC-e

1347  Economy / Speculation / Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin... on: January 26, 2014, 10:02:37 AM
I'm just writing what most people think who aren't bothering to post here at a sunday noon.  Cheesy

And while we write Bitcoin takes off again!
1348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Google looks into accepting Bitcoin... on: January 26, 2014, 09:43:28 AM
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Updated: Google has since issued a statement that it isn’t looking to incorporate Bitcoin — but as far as we can tell, the email conversation isn’t being contested.

(which is exactly which the statement does contest, since it is the subject of incorporating bitcoin. roxtar just quoted it)

Of course they're thinking about it. And of course it would be too early on the part of Google for any statement regarding potentially adopting Bitcoin.
1349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Developments Thread on: January 26, 2014, 09:33:32 AM

Scheduled for 10 am Tues and Wed
www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs

Had to type the url.  I can't use chrome android paste function here.  Press and hold, a paste button should pop up, but it doesn't work here.

The link above is for a live stream of the NY Bitcoin Hearing starting Tuesday.
1350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2014, 08:57:59 AM
Kill the naysayers!!


I'm sorry Fonzie, was this in reference to me or my comments? 

Don't worry about Fonzie! He's off on one against anyone who doesn't believe a crash is coming!
1351  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if MT Gox goes under? on: January 26, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
If Huobi was shut down then there would be one less bogeyman for the doomsday scenarists. I expect it would cause the price to lift.
1352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 25, 2014, 11:16:16 PM
hyubi doesnt want to cooperate in a pump it seems
well this is about the spot i like to see a bounce, otherwise maybe this is a trap

Patience, patience. Give her a few days more. There's a lot of negative expectation to work out of the system.
1353  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to spot Pumping and Dumping on: January 25, 2014, 05:23:58 PM
... if you know for sure that Bitcoin is going to heavily correct and their is nothing that can be done to avoid it?

You've been saying this for so very long MatTheCat. But I have never seen you give a prediction of timescale. Of course, whenever a couple of red candles appear on the charts you shout that this is it (and have been proved wrong 100% of the time), but that's not what I mean.

Give us an estimate for when this heavy correction is going to happen. Otherwise it's just the same old FUD that's been coming out for weeks now!



You have been screaming all time highs that have never came. Instead, what he have had is a classic post crash 'return to normal' scenario minus the final capitulation.

As for timing, the 'final capitulation' is going to be entirely based around China's exit from Bitcoin, so sometime Feb or very early March at a push.

Bullshit! I have not been screaming "all time highs". I have been saying sub-1000 until the very end of this month! Look at my weekly thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397534.0

"Sometime Feb or very early March" is just a little too vague for me. I guess by giving yourself over a month you are counting on something to come along and prove you right. But it won't happen - there is no heavy correction to come. EDIT: Why no crash? Market sentiment is overall too good.
1354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Near term price prediction. on: January 25, 2014, 04:40:26 PM
No TA here, as I reckon I am starting to tune into the manipulators script.

Bitcoin will hover around the level it is at but slowly grind it's way up to 814 level. At this point it will hover around and grind its way back down with the whale-rats springing massive trade orders into towering bid walls that have built up due to bots causing a chasm between buyers and sellers.

Go long here (but make sure you bid a good few dollars below the fake spot bot moulded spot price), have sell orders at around 814, take small profits and then short Bitcoin.

U read it here first!

Quoted for future reference!
1355  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to spot Pumping and Dumping on: January 25, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
... if you know for sure that Bitcoin is going to heavily correct and their is nothing that can be done to avoid it?

You've been saying this for so very long MatTheCat. But I have never seen you give a prediction of timescale. Of course, whenever a couple of red candles appear on the charts you shout that this is it (and have been proved wrong 100% of the time), but that's not what I mean.

Give us an estimate for when this heavy correction is going to happen. Otherwise it's just the same old FUD that's been coming out for weeks now!

1356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 25, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
https://ice3x.com/home

South African Bitcoin Exchange. I never heard of it before today. Does anyone here know anything about it?
1357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Developments Thread on: January 25, 2014, 03:42:43 PM
http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/The-Rand-is-Dying-Can-Bitcoin-Save-Us-20140124

"South Africa, as one of the ‘BRICS’, was often touted as an emerging market to watch. These days it finds itself in less auspicious company; the so-called ‘Fragile Five’ (India, Indonesia, Brazil and Turkey).
The economic fundamentals are poor and citizens are left with few options. Most feel powerless. With few options available many are forced to watch their real wealth, denominated in Rand, evaporate.
But a group of tech savvy entrepreneurs and investors have had enough. They are bringing Bitcoin and digital currency to South Africans."
1358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Early 2014... on: January 25, 2014, 03:24:41 PM


Three weeks in...

For the past three weeks I have plotted the progression of the Bitcoin market alongside the green line trend I first proposed on 3 January 2014.

You can see the progression of the price, indicated by the yellow crosses on the chart. The red uptrend indicates a short break upwards predicted on 3 January, which subsequently happened.

As predicted, the trend has inclined sideways, essentially going horizontal for a little longer than the green trend line suggests.

Next week

In every post in this series I have re-affirmed the initial prediction that come the end of January, the price of Bitcoin will rise upwards and break through $1,000 convincingly. The progression of the market has closely followed the proposed trend, and the prediction remains unchanged.

Reason behind the current lack of upward movement

Despite the build-up of bullish good news and the recent bullish TA (19-day bullish pennant, recent Elliot Wave analysis), the price is still essentially flat after having been so for most of January. Why? The wait for Chinese New Year.

Back in December the Chinese Government told third-party payment providers to stop offering clearing services to Bitcoin exchanges. This resulted in waves of negative rumours, and many people have predicted a crash on 31 January as Chinese Bitcoiners sell all their Bitcoins and cash out at the last minute.

Your own experience

Ask yourself though, what is your experience with exchanges? If you had to cash out for some reason, and needed the money on a certain date, would you wait until this date in order to sell your Bitcoins, submit the transfer request, perhaps follow up to enquire as to the estimated time of delivery, wait as the exchange processed the transfer, and receive your money safe and sound in your bank account? Of course you wouldn't, because in the best case scenario the above series of processes can take a week to happen, and that really is a best-case scenario.

This means that if anyone in China had decided to throw in the towel and cash out, they would likely have done it already. Common sense also tells you that if the deadline for closure is 31 January, there could be a bottleneck around that date so giving extra time to cash out would be wise.

So the fact is, there is going to be no rush of Chinese people selling Bitcoins on 31 January. It would be too late. If they were going to do it, they would have done so already.

Of course even common sense is not enough to convince many nervous people outside China that the Chinese will dump their coins on 31 January, so that's why many are waiting on the sidelines, ready to buy as the price crashes to the low hundreds.

This is pure fantasy. The people waiting will not get the half-price coins they want.

Reasons behind the current lack of downward movement

The price of Bitcoin is supported at current levels because market sentiment has never been so positive. The daily bullish news count is very high. It is becoming crystal clear now that the ground-breaking technology that is Bitcoin has the power to streamline global payments saving enormous sums of money and time in the process. Depending on how you look at it (and also depending on correct education about it, which is starting to happen in the mainstream now) Bitcoin is also:

- a beautifully simple (as wallets are also fast becoming!) and secure digital currency.

- an extremely profitable, attractive and convenient asset.

- a digital bearer instrument that safeguards users' information from other users.

And there is so much more to come.

Not only is it obvious that Bitcoin has an important place in the world, but the rate at which it is possible for Bitcoin to be adopted is staggering. Bitcoin has come along at a time when the Internet has become sufficiently established so as to be able to support and sustain extreme viral effects. Together with the fact that it is open source (removing huge obstacles that would be present with copyrighted software) and combined with the network effect – the more users Bitcoin has the more valuable it becomes (not only in terms of price but also in myriad ways to do with its use as a payments system, a currency, an asset, etc.)  – this viral support is giving Bitcoin the opportunity to expand exponentially.

Investors with any experience know very well that it is now just a matter of being patient. As Bitcoin expands to fulfil even just a small part of its full potential, their investment will increase in value at a rate that out-performs anything else they could put their money into.

Waiting for the bargain of a lifetime

Bears have been consistently confounded throughout the consolidation that began on 7 January. With every red candle the forum has been awash with claims of “low hundreds”, FUD of all kinds and outright screaming and swearing. Hosts of newbie accounts have sprung up, spouting negative views.

Those waiting for cheap coins have been on the attack, and when all else has failed the conspiracy theories have exploded into life. It seems like the preferred course of action for some is to claim massive market manipulation, rather than simply to admit that their repeated claims for a capitulation into the low hundreds have not been proven correct, and that they are wrong.

Those waiting for cheap coins simply cannot accept the simple, common sense logic that says “If market sentiment is more positive, the price will be supported at higher levels”. But if they can't accept common sense then they need only look at previous “bubbles”. As time has progressed and confidence in Bitcoin has grown, price levels after each bubble have been consistently higher in proportion to the lows, highs and follow up prices of earlier bubbles. This is perfectly normal and of course to be expected for as long as confidence keeps growing. And, needless to say, confidence has received the biggest boost in the history of Bitcoin over the past three months.

Why the price will move up through $1,000 in a few days' time

As 31 January approaches and those waiting on the sidelines with the money that has been building up, see that the China doomsday crash they so desperately hope for is not materialising, acceptance of Bitcoin's current supported price will be the only option left to them. And with that acceptance will come the realisation that the time to invest is now, before the continued rise of Bitcoin that everyone expects this year kicks back into action as the bullish steam that has been building up is released.

By this time next weekend the sideways movement that has drawn Bitcoin out for 19 days so far will have come to an end. The uptrend will have been resumed, indicated roughly by the yellow line added to this week's chart.



1359  Bitcoin / Meetups / North American Bitcoin Conference, 25th and 26th of January, 2014 on: January 24, 2014, 10:39:17 PM
"In response to these changes in the bitcoin landscape, the North American Bitcoin Conference (NABC) intends to bring focus to the divergent bitcoin community that now includes enthusiasts, speculators, business-users and politicians. To ensure hard-hitting outcomes, speakers will include Roger Ver, Charlie Schrem, Tony Gallippi and Charlie Lee amongst others.

As part of its mission to grow bitcoin use, the NABC will also offer workshops targeted at merchants, and act as a forum for vendors, exhibitors, and recent bitcoin startups to share their latest innovations and inform discussions. In addition, regulators, banks and government officials will be on hand to lead panel discussions that are light on fluff and heavy on content."

WHEN
Jan 25 - 26, 2014
Starting at 9 AM

WHERE
Miami Beach Convention Centre
Miami Beach, Florida

Anyone here going to this?
1360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 24, 2014, 09:36:37 PM
Just found this!  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked



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