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1181  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC will plunge after the next MtGox move, either good or bad on: February 23, 2014, 02:33:57 PM
This possibility is already getting priced in
1182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 02:26:28 PM
I think that more then 80 % of people here are aggressive trolls, who are interested in short term profits.

if they are long from 530, they will tell you that the price will skyrocket. when they close their trade @ 640, they will brag that they are good traders. and vicversa.


HODLERS are actually people who bought their when they were 5 $ each.


Yeah but today there is also a small group of extreme HODLERS who bought at $1000!
1183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin worth investment? on: February 23, 2014, 12:50:02 PM
For a meme-based coin I think http://www.reddit.com/r/nyancoins/ has more upside potential
1184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next Round Of Buys Incoming!! Over $400 Mt. Gox! on: February 23, 2014, 12:45:08 PM
Good morning America!
1185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 12:36:27 PM
The only reason
Please see my thread "problems besides mtgox" to learn about the 20 other things going on besides mtgox.

That really is "Gloomy" with a capital "G"  Smiley
1186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next Round of Dumps Coming! Mt. Gox on: February 23, 2014, 12:35:11 PM
Makes point

+1 bumps own point
1187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next Round of Dumps Coming! Mt. Gox on: February 23, 2014, 12:34:56 PM
Makes point
1188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt.Gox Dumps coming! Under $250 Soon on: February 23, 2014, 12:33:51 PM
I guess it wasn't as easy to HODL as you thought huh? Tongue

Grandad... Did you really SODL during the 2014 bull market of 1000% ?
1189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 12:13:23 PM
I am still confused.  From the comments in that reddit thread, I understood that there is not a single bit of new news about MtGOX: they did not start testing, they did not resume withdrawals, there have been no reports from them or anything.  Did I understand it wrong?

I think that a day ago people started to wake up to the fact that they might have been blinded by the sweeping negative emotion against Gox.

Not saying that everything will be OK there of course...

Also people waking up to easy arbitrage opportunities.
1190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next Round Of Buys Incoming!! on: February 23, 2014, 12:02:54 PM
Major buys incoming on Gox. Mark my words. $400 is coming fast!

I've been watching markets for 43% of my adult life.  Japan just went to sleep so they can't sell right now so the market is going up. No sell volume.

Oh, and I will accept any bet of 500 btc that Gox doesn't open withdrawals in next 15 minutes. I have 1500 btc to bet.

43%?

Interesting that - about the rate you get for Gox Bitcoins on bitcoinbuilder.

There must be something to what you say.
1191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt.Gox Dumps coming! on: February 23, 2014, 11:56:04 AM
Will be below 250$ within 6 hours. Asians bought based off u.s. speculation on withdrawals news.High has been reached.u.s markets will sell come morning
How do you know that it was specifically asians who bought?
I have been analyzing market trends for the majority of my adult life.

I've been analyzing your posts for a couple of minutes and I have made the following conclusions:

1. You bought some Goxcoins recently
2. Earlier today you sold them

1192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 11:29:19 AM
If Gox re-opens withdrawals the biggest movement will be Gox up.

Still lots of dry powder on that exchange and doubtless more pouring in next week.
1193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt.Gox Rally! Testing Withdrawals Proof on: February 23, 2014, 10:23:41 AM
I would if I could unless you have a gox account

I have a gox account and he has my btc address.  Grin
Lame excuses. He just doesn't want to pay his debt.

You'd let a man off pocket change though wouldn't you Branson...  Grin
1194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 10:00:42 AM
No prizes for what I'm calling here...

1195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 09:47:22 AM
Hasn't the Gox price just risen to reflect what the Bitcoinbuilder price allows?

When it was $100, IF you got fiat in you could buy Gox BTC and then sell them via Bitcoinbulder for a huge profit.

Once enough fiat was started to come in, it was inevitable that with an arb possible - the gap would close.

Then once Gox rose to close the gap, the market felt rosy.

If Bitcoinbuilder is 0.5, then Gox is around half of 'real' price, not 20% of it.  Hence Gox price?

That huge arb just had to get corrected
1196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
I just learned a story about a 'bitcoin investment fund' in a certain Latin American country.  The fund took several thousand coins from clients,  promising large returns in BTC.  Then the owner claimed that the fund had been hacked an all the coins were stolen, and closed the fund.  The clients have not yet received their coins back.

What makes the story interesting is that that same person is the owner of that country's main bitcoin exchange.  And his clients see nothing wrong with that.

Why is there so much tolerance to dishonesty in the bitcoin community?


Are you speaking about Mercado Bitcoin in Brazil, right?

Well, I personally know the people involved and you are just making wild assumptions. AFAIK the theft of the fund money happened indeed - and the owner of the fund is the OLD owner of the exchange, not the actual one. He sold it.

So, you are reading stories in a forum, confusing them for hard cold facts and then making assumptions. Well done, professor. You are embarrassing  yourself again.

About your stupid rhetorical question:in the Bitcoin community there is no more tolerance to dishonesty than in the "fiat community" (lol). HSBC employees and management can calmly walk down the streets without fearing to encounter an angry mob ready to hang them from a tree (same thing is valid for any of the investment banks that made millions of people poorer after the 2008 crisis), Berlusconi has ruled 20 years in Italy while all the population knows he is a thief and probably a "wise guy", the management of the Spanish banks that ruined the country and that had to be rescued with public money is walking away with multi-million bonuses while nobody says nothing, and the vast majority of financial criminals (even the convicted ones) are admired and called "sir" by their neighbors.

This is capitalism, Mr Steffi, and there's always tolerance to making a lot of money, regardless of the means.

I think with a bit of nuance in both directions you both have points.

Jorge's point seems to me to be in line with the general appreciation of Bitcoin land as the "Wild West". I don't know how much longer we will be in the wild west but just a thought: would we judge the cowboys of 150 years ago by our own standards?  Wink

But in any case I do think tolerance for cowboy behaviour or perceived cowboy behaviour is fast on the wane in Bitcoin land. Just type "Mark Karpeles" into Google and read. Reminds me very much of reading about the "banksters".
1197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 09:17:18 AM
MT Gox's green address used internally for customer BTC withdrawals is active for the first time in 2 weeks!

https://blockchain.info/address/1LNWw6yCxkUmkhArb2Nf2MPw6vG7u5WG7q

5 million bitcoins have gone through this address in the last 3 years, so it is very significant.


I like that your activity is 420, and that your avatar is someone breathing out smoke.

Also....about to break through an important psychological barrier....5000! (pages on this thread.)

Choo choo motherforum.

Thanks.
Can't get too excited about that gox address just yet as the first decent-sized transaction since the Night of Goxxing is goxxed up, yet another double-spend.

I do believe it's Rachel from Blade Runner. Is that right?

Yep!

He he!  Cheesy Too late! You've single-handedly just sparked the biggest rally since Silk Road got shut down.  Wink
1198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 08:42:10 AM
MT Gox's green address used internally for customer BTC withdrawals is active for the first time in 2 weeks!

https://blockchain.info/address/1LNWw6yCxkUmkhArb2Nf2MPw6vG7u5WG7q

5 million bitcoins have gone through this address in the last 3 years, so it is very significant.


I like that your activity is 420, and that your avatar is someone breathing out smoke.

Also....about to break through an important psychological barrier....5000! (pages on this thread.)

Choo choo motherforum.

I do believe it's Rachel from Blade Runner. Is that right?
1199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 05:26:22 PM
Quote
BTC : You can still withdraw up to 100.00000000 BTC provided you have enough on your account (your limit is 100.00000000 BTC per 24 hours )
    EUR : You can still withdraw up to 1,000.00000 € provided you have enough on your account (your limit is 1,000.00000 € per 24 hours and 10,000.00000 € per 30 days)

THIS

Gox has bitcoins, money, all is fine

All FUDer gone, rally is ON !

boy are you full of shit. Seriously. For f's sake!
Those are the same limits as before, for a verified account.

If you have real news please bring them on the table.

They're the limits for a standard account aren't they? That's what it says on mine anyway and I'm not verified.

Anyway as I said in all cases withdrawals have still not been re-enabled, as far as I am aware.
1200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 05:01:55 PM
People are rallying because of this?http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ymb4r/some_light_on_the_horizon_for_gox/

Unbelievable, anything to get the party started.

Massive bull trap.

That post is from a few hours ago. This move instead is way too sudden. Something must have changed in the Gox interface that triggered it. Someone suggested a change in their withdrawal limits. I don't have a Gox account handy anymore. Can anyone confirm please?


   BTC : You can still withdraw up to 100.00000000 BTC provided you have enough on your account (your limit is 100.00000000 BTC per 24 hours )
    EUR : You can still withdraw up to 1,000.00000 € provided you have enough on your account (your limit is 1,000.00000 € per 24 hours and 10,000.00000 € per 30 days)



That's the standard text but that doesn't mean withdrawals have been re-enabled.
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