Unfortunately I dont have the answer you are looking for, but I have been in the litecoin community since the GPU days, and what I do know is that litecoin has consistently been the most stable and profitable coin in all of crypto currencies. Other altcoins and have come and gone, they go through their spikes and dumps, and litecoin has always stayed in the sidelines returning the same profit day in/out.

Like others have mentioned its definitely the long game with litecoin. Yea you can be more profitable putting your money elsewhere right now, but in the long run I have made more gains with litecoin than any other crypto. The second main reason is im constrained by power capacity (have about 10kw dedicated to mining), and currently the L3 cant be matched by any other form of hardware in terms of $mined/watt, be it asic or GPU.

For example and S9 can put out 19 cents of revenue per month per watt, the most profitable GPU algo (zcash currently) 28 cents per watt, and the L3 is now at 34 cents per watt.

So you can see where the true value of scrypt mining lies...for the home miner that is constrained by power (both capacity and price), it cannot be beat. This is the reason I have always been a proponet of scrypt/litecoin for home miners (and is the reason I started my whole scrypt USB stick project...which I hope to continue with a new version on the current generation of scrypt asics). Of course all this comes with a trade off and thats with a higher upfront cost, which again is not for everyone.

So it again it comes down to your individual needs...are you a huge farm with massive capacity and low electricity price? Go with a Bitcoin miner...do you want quick ROI and high resell value go with GPU algos...are you a home miner with high electricity and want to play the long game? Go with L3. But dont make a decision based on a simple ROI calculator and do your research.

So seems like my deal will go through with them, but they wont be able to send out my shipment until the first week of feb. As soon as I have the final numbers per unit and the freight shipping cost from them ill open up another thread for a group buy-in. It will most likely be conducted in a similar fashion to my USB scrypt stick pre order (except you wont have to wait months for these . All BTC will be pooled in a public address that I will send directly to bitmain, they'll pallet drop ship all the units to me in NY, and ill simply slap a shipment label on them and send them out to you guys.

I know some of you guys have PMed me already, but ill start putting a serious list together with the number of units you guys are interested in so if you haven't already shoot me a PM with the number you want (figure around $1600 each unit).

Even at 1100 your crazy...that must be what in the 250 watt territory? I run my Tahiti's at 975 to keep them under 160 watts @ 270s/s. Don't think the extra 10-20S are worth the 50-100 watts per card. 

Yes he has...I told him how to do it

Yes which is exactly what I posted in that thread...he just wanted to boast about something for whatever reason. I have decoded each timing value....took a shitton of work and trial and error. Its not the holy grail your looking for though...you might get an extra 5-10% tighter timings over just swapping lower straps.

You have AMD's internal bios editor and call that bios editing? haha guess a congratulations is in order for you sir.

I don't think its special, was responding to the other guy that apparently thinks all i say is bullshit and I don't have 10 GPUs running on a single system. And they are running that slow because all 10 are on a single 1200 watt PSU and under clocked :p And as soon as one goes down the system reboots so thats not an issue

haha and what makes you think that its bullshit and I have not done any of that? Guess you don't like my stance on open crypto and calling out devs that go against the founding principles of it, but that makes me the bullshitter and entitled one right? My history in crypto clearly speaks for itself, but here you go for laughs



oh and I appreciate you writing love notes for me...its sweet

You are new here and don't know much about the community so I wont bother responding to your naivety, but if you bothered looking me up you would know very well where my principles stand...if this post does not make it clear to you I don't know what else does:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716584.msg17527667#msg17527667

Lol id love to know about my infamous bullshit claims. What I have to say about this subject does not make me an entitled prick. What happens when an open source community is taken over by greed is this exact thing...no I dont have to use his software but I have no choice but to do so, until awesome efforts like zawawa's open source miner catches up to hardware limitations and levels the playing field for everyone, and the little miners take in as much profits as the big farms and the system works as intended.

And no I also dont have anything against rewarding early devs for their optimization work ( I have supported both optiminer and claymore with dev fees since day 1 even though I could turn them off), I am a developer myself and get it (even though all my work is open source). What I do have issues with are ENTITLED devs that charge what is essentially a subscription fee to their software, charge ridiculous fees that eat into most of our profits using our power and hardware, then act like children when the people funding them ask for improvements and fixes to basic issues that a 10% miner should not have.

Sure...im the entitled one haha

No, I'm telling him how to spend MY money, which I have regrettably chosen to share with him because I have no other choice if I want to remain profitable. So yes, with kilo hashes  free mining power he has from my rigs, I have every right to tell him how to spend my money.

He makes way over 1k USD PER DAY from all of us, so I don't think a 90USD card will hurt his bottom line

Yes I said Tahiti card using your experimental kernel...you have made thousands of dollars with your fee...tahiti cards are sold for less than $100 these days.

Are you going to fix the index out of range errors with the experimental kernel on tahiti cards?

Well he's so damn greedy and his dev fee so ridiculous you only need to reach 266 before everyone dumps his miner

I just can't wait until both him and claymore learn their lessons the hard way. You don't get to to rip off and screw over the people in this OPEN SOURCE community, and bite the hand that feeds you and not get bitten in the ass eventually.

zawawa here is .1 btc for about the only noble open source miner dev efforts I have seen on here in a while...good to see there are still people on here that get what this whole movement is about  https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/e8a2a8f60c50b285e18ebb381bf1be57f629924449ffce10a12f5c9005937c74

Keep up the good work guys...seems like Claymore has once again screwed over linux users, so I will keep donating here and hopefully we can all switch over to this open source miner soon.

Ok, so can you release the linux version that has no such limitations to what you can do with the asm, instead of continuing to develop for crap windows first?

Low diff has nothing to do with higher Hashrate, in fact you'll get a more accurate hahsrate average with lower diff. If anything you'll get higher "peaks" with higher diff shares.

1150/1900 obviously custom bios undervolted etc. Still pulls 890 at the wall, but the point of my post is as long as you know how to balance rails and tune everything right there is no reason you can't run a PSU at its max capacity.

lol I run 8x RX470s from a 850 watt PSU

Yes I wouldnt be talking to them unless it was for quantity :p I have a separate project going on, and figured I could help you guys out with price as well between discount and shipping price savings.