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1901  Other / Off-topic / Re: What would you do for $5 of bitcoins? on: March 06, 2011, 01:34:33 PM
Make a robot do the bike stunt!!!!!!
1902  Economy / Marketplace / Bitcoin and the LoveMachine ? discuss on: March 06, 2011, 01:05:44 AM
http://www.lovemachineinc.com/
Just bringing this to your attention Smiley
1903  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Satoshi Alive? Thread on: March 06, 2011, 12:35:37 AM
Could be a glitch  in the forum, or he could have used his lawyer's laptop or mobile for one last thing on the forum or somthing..

The two timelines seem to be suspiciouslly close....
1904  Other / Off-topic / Re: What would you do for $5 of bitcoins? on: March 06, 2011, 12:11:35 AM
I like the idea of attaching the payment to the success of the video instead of to making a dangerous stunt, sounds like it makes the pledger a little bit less connected to the stunt , potnetially safer from a legal point of view.

Probably a good idea to include a disclaimer like "The stunts in this video were performed by professionals and/or complete idiots, do not try  doing things like this at home nor anywhere else (but if you do, please video it and post online so we can laugh at you getting severelly hurt)"
1905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcard - an idea for fast transactions on the street on: March 06, 2011, 12:05:46 AM
Aceptance in stores would be much easier if they had guarantees they would most likelly not need to get the law involved to see their money; and bitcards can still provide some of the anonimity of paper cash, without the delay and the need to trust random strangers from raw bitcoin transactions.
1906  Other / Off-topic / Just throwing an idea out there: Distributed decentralized MOO/Second Life hybrid virtual universe? on: March 06, 2011, 12:00:46 AM
I haven't really thought all that much about this yet, lots of details hazy or simply missing; i thought about posting here cause some people here might be able to contribute ideas and with some luck might even kickstart the project.


Two main "components" in the idea:

* The platform: A flexible and expandable bootstraping user modifiable environment, with object oriented capabilities ("object" in the programming sense)
Somthing like a MOO (Multi-Use-Domain  Object Oriented), but completly abstract at first, concepts like "rooms", "avatars", motion, spatial relations etc created from scratch from the basic elements; it should allow anything, want 4 dimensional spaces, go for it, non-euclidian space, no problem,  fractal dimensions, why not, 2d grid based environment with portals, sure. And the same way you define things, you define what is said on the network; for example, if you are working in a rooms based environment, besides defining the geometry of the room, you define how to translate raw parameters into a text description for text based clients, how the geometry is sent to 3D rendering clients, the physics involved with touching walls, friction, materials, textures etc, define access control and so on (inheriting things when useful instead of writing from scratch) . Protocols standardization would be based on popularity and community interactions.


* What the platform will run on: distributed decentralized processing and management network (somthing kinda like what Bitcoin and Freenet do)
People would run server nodes on their machines, contributing spare and/or donated processors cycles, storage space, bandwidth etc to run the backend. People would have ways to define what sorts of things get done, how much resource to use etc; both lower level and within the platform custom programing (choosing which types of worlds to (co)host,  restrict to things owned by a certain identity or groups of identities, what things from a certain type of world or even from a certain world to deal with etc) ; so depending on who is offering the resources and the rules programed on specific universe types, individual universes,  world types, individual worlds, item types and individual items etc, anything from anonymous wikilike virtual environments to highly controlled corporate 3d chatrooms and beyond can be done. And kinda like with Freenet, storage would get redistributed with the goal of keeping commonly accessed data closer (based on network speed and latency, not physical distance), but also do it in a redundant way both for load balancing and for resiliency purposes.






I guess some of the key goals are:

* Do not depend on centralized servers

* Do not assume the platform developers can think of all possible ways the users may use it and therefore do not impose any hardcoded behaviors (don't assume people will always use a 2d screen, don't assume people will not want to fly, don't assume people will want humanoid avatars, don't assume people will expect moving in a straight line will always move away from starting position, don't assume people will want to restrict who will be allowed to obtain and use copies of their creations, don't assume people will want static environment geometry, don't assume two people are expected to see the same scene the same way, don't assume people will use text based or 3d clients, don't assume communications will happen via TCP/IP or similar etc)



Basicly kinda a distributed, decentralized "anarchist" virtual multiverse platform capable of mimicking and exceeding all virtual environment platforms out there and being twisted to suit anyone's needs and desires without getting in the way of anyone else twisting it to suit their different needs and wants (could even become kinda like the Internet (or equivalent) in the future as described in  many different fiction works, "sites" can be anything from a room to a whole planet to an interactive virtual newspaper to somthing that requires a virtual computer with a virtual screen running a oldschool browser rendering HTML text to a surface; and where you can be a floating giant version of your wetware head, floating eyes, a smell, nothing, just your shadow, millions of intelligent independent point-like entities etc, you enter into games as if it's just another place you go except it applies certain restrictions on what you can be, what you can do etc, but you can still pull out a game gun in any place (that doesn't restricts you from doing it), ride game vehicles in shared public areas etc)
1907  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Code Question? on: March 05, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
If i'm not mistaken, only coins generated by solving blocks that were also solved in the rest of the Internet will go away.
1908  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcard - an idea for fast transactions on the street on: March 05, 2011, 09:09:32 AM
That wouldn't be trustworthy enough for going to stores and buying things, the stores wouldn't like having to wait from ten mninutes to half a day or more to know whether you really paid them or if you had already sent the money to somewhere else.
1909  Other / Off-topic / Re: What would you do for $5 of bitcoins? on: March 05, 2011, 07:28:41 AM
Make your own takeoff ramps with plywood and do it in the middle of an empty parking lot?
1910  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Python client on: March 05, 2011, 07:21:51 AM
IRC is just the default, i read someone saying there are a couple different fallbacks for when IRC isn't avaiable or desired by the user.




A python client that only depends on python would indeed be awesome.
1911  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcard - an idea for fast transactions on the street on: March 05, 2011, 07:11:19 AM
This is somthing i thought about reading some of those threads about physical bitcoins.


It would work kinda like a debit card.


You carry with yourself a smart card containing your identification with the "bank" and some challenge response software to prove the card really is authentic and it's the one associated with your account (instead of just an ID number that needed to be made public, exposing the card to clonation).

Bitcoins you own are deposited into your account in the "bank".

You go to a store, and when it's time to pay, you present your card, the cashier places it into the machine and the machine talks with the bank securelly, confirms that you have the funds, and then tells you how much the cashier is asking you and requests your password or signature or somthing like that to authorize the transfer.


If you go ahead with it, the "bank" subtracts that ammount from your balance and triggers the transfer in the Bitcoin network (making transactions transparent), but instantly adds that ammount to the store's balance (everyone involved trusts the bank to keep it's word, the bank got some additional reserve to cover times when the network takes too long etc) and transfers between accounts on the same bank are presented to customers not as the raw current state of the bitcon addresses but as the instantaneous layer, the result of all transfers pending or verified by the network; transfers to other banks, or to arbitrary bitcoin addresses remove the amount from the bank account balance instantaneouslly, but from the receiver's point of view is just a regular bitcoin transfer.




I know that this has most of the issues associated with centralization, single point of failure and stuff, but i would think this would be quite usefull for regular people on their daily life.

And it got several benefits over carrying a whole device running it's own bitcoin client, like:

* Instant trusted payments

* Can fit inside your wallet

* All the technology already exists and people are used to using it already.


And it stil works on top of the bitcoin network without competing with.




Eventually there might be some laws forcing people to provide true documents relating to their identity to the banks/operators, but till then, just going into an agency (or perhaps even online) transfering some money to a new address owned by then would be enough to get you an account and a card for that account. And from then on all you need to provide to receive money is the account id (for transfer from another account in the same bank) or the bitcoin address of the account (for transfers using just the bitcoin network), and stores and other places  could buy a compatible machine, program their account id in, and plug it to the Internet and they're set. Without a machine to make transfers you could still do it with things like webbanking, thru the phone, going into a physical agency etc.






This still wouldn't completly replace paper govt money with bitcoin, but would make it compete with it, or rather with "plastic money" and other instances where people pay and receive govt money without actually seeing the paper notes.
1912  Economy / Marketplace / Re: I need a company name (30 BTC to the winner) on: March 05, 2011, 06:31:27 AM
Does Fox own "Weyland-Yutani"?


How about "Xeno" ?


Goldstream?


ACME?


D-Tech?

Eris?

Dwarf Planet?

Magma?

Nucular?

Cyberdime? (intentional pun, not a typo)


Rainbowtip? (at the end of the rainbow you find a pot of gold)


Volumetric?


Voxel Construct?


Snakehead?


Graphene?


Diamondworks?

Bitwave?

Singularity?

Tanglement?

Vortex Studio?

Shinelab?

Redout?

Psylab?

Lavapit?

Archnemesis?

Corona?




Should i keep going?
1913  Economy / Marketplace / Re: We need to find out where Stevenbucks lives. on: March 05, 2011, 06:13:56 AM
Using Google Voice (yeah, yeah, i know, Google is the big brother etc etc) you won't pay anything to call him if you got his landline number.


Who knows, might have been just a filling mishap and he will mail you another one of that thing you tried buying from him at no cost.
1914  Other / Off-topic / Re: What would you do for $5 of bitcoins? on: March 05, 2011, 06:04:24 AM
Just a suggestion regarding the stunt ideas (i'm don't have any BTC yet to offer)

How about sewing a cover made of a cut towel around the rear tire of the bike, bathing it in ligher fluid, then do jumps and other stuff with the wheel on fire? (probably a good idea to protect your back and legs with fire resistant material, and have a few friends nearby each with a fire extinguisher and a cell phone to call the ambulance in case somthing goes too wrong)

Or perhaps put a bunch of tenisballs inside the wheel (between the spokes, i'm not sure how they do it, i think it involves (re)assembling the wheel around the balls) and soak them in lighter fluid and put them on fire?
1915  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Oldest redeemed bitcoin? on: March 05, 2011, 05:41:25 AM
Back then wasn't the payout for CPU mining even better than what most people doing GPU mining are getting nowadays?
1916  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Oldest redeemed bitcoin? on: March 03, 2011, 08:32:04 PM
Depenending how much of his bitcoins he spent, Satoshi's probably filthy rich by now....
1917  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anonymous or distributed web technologies on: March 03, 2011, 08:29:33 PM
Say I wanted to make a website selling newspapers in a country where it's illegal to buy them. What technologies could I use?

Freenet only serves static pages AFAIK, so not sure if that would be appropriate since it only hands out content but doesn't provide a way for users to interact with the site (discreetly or publicly).

Would a tor service fit the job here? What other tools exist?

The aim is to provide some level of protection for buyers of newspapers on the site (enough to make the government go after easier fish) and make it difficult to attack the site owner.

Freenet got forums, wikis etc, and works quite well regarding anonimity if you take the required precautions (just like any other anonimity system, pretty much none of them are safe against user carelessness)
1918  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A full shell script implementation of bitcoin ? on: March 03, 2011, 08:07:08 PM
(just subscribing to the thread)
1919  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some questionable aspects of Bitcoin on: March 01, 2011, 10:00:38 PM
Wouldn't "seashells" be a better standin than "cash" ?
1920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Common Law System on: March 01, 2011, 12:14:32 AM
That will be an issue for newcomers, even worse if someone got lots of money they want to convert into BTC 'cause they've just learned about it.


I don't think we should be thinking in terms of punishment for the guilty, we should instead focus on educating the innocent.
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