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201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: June 14, 2024, 10:21:06 AM
Eh, all the teams ended up losing, but the Bahamas played half the game shorthanded and the score was only 1-0, which makes me think there was value in this bet.
Personally, I have now reached the state I need and am not at all looking for any game to bet on. It seems to me that the most difficult thing is to just wait for value games and not bet simply because there are some games. I plan to start with the third games of the Euro group stage, I think by this time the value of the games will be clear and it will be possible to predict with greater accuracy.

You echoed my thoughts. To be fair, if they had 11 men, they might have tried harder to equalise, and then end up losing big anyway. All the same, they were huge underdogs and only lost by a goal. A handicap bet should have been worth at least 3/1.

Value is discipline... which I don't always have. I actually used to be much better when I had a lot of time, I bet with reasonably high frequency only in the season, and then entire off season I don't bet at all. Now I'm even betting on F1...

With KO tournaments, I find value only in qualifiers and the latter stages of the finals. Group stages seem to be the worst -- everyone is too careful, and even ending up third or drawing all the games gives you a chance to playoff. Live betting is where it's at too. Last World Cup was pretty good for me, betting first against the favs, and then on them when/if they went a goal behind.

That is why I plan to start from the third round and if I bet, I will only bet on games where the outcome of the game will mean life and death. If there are no such games (or they are not interesting in terms of odds), then I will look for interesting bets in the playoffs.
Did I understand correctly that you bet against the favorites in the group stage and in the playoffs on the favorites if they started to lead? Or were these some kind of hedging bets in live?
202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season on: June 14, 2024, 10:06:21 AM
I don’t like the new version of the group stage, to be debuted in the 24/25 season but it is what it is. After missing out on the CL last season I am looking forward to seeing Liverpool back where we belong.

It’s very much unknown territory with Slot but I guess you never know what can happen, it doesn’t cost anything to dream.

I don’t like the group stage either, you could say that they combined the old group stage with the last qualifying round and it turned out to be such a mess. But if you look at the essence of the competition, then everything still starts at the playoff stage and here everything remains as before. And yet I hope that spectator interest in the group stage will wane and the old format will be returned.
203  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Комиссии за транзакцию on: June 13, 2024, 10:45:16 PM
Пока не разбирался с этим (хотя примерно понимаю как это работает), спасибо за подсказку может придется воспользоваться.
А могли бы вы объяснить экономическую подоплеку действий акселератора? Нафига им более дешёвые транзы бустить/исполнять если в пуле есть более выгодные "заказы"?
Я всегда когда вижу что-то хорошее ещё и подвох ищу  Grin

Как Julien_Olynpic уже выше отметил, viabtc, скорее всего, делают это в маркетинговых целях. Полагаю, что добавление в блок несколько десятков бесплатных транзакций некритично для них в экономическом плане, в то время как подобный сервис привлекает много трафика и его использование подразумевает регистрацию аккаунта на их сайте.
p.s.
Если будете использовать этот акселератор, то учитывайте их ограничения. Транзакция должна быть не более 0,5kb, а размер комиссии не менее 0,0001 btc/kb.

Короче дело ясное что дело темное  Grin но может пригодится конечно, в закладки себе добавил инфу.
Посмотрел последнюю транзу - весит 370 байт, так что в лимит укладываюсь если что. Остальные транзы не смотрел но там все однотипное -> плата -> сдача, значит вес сопоставимый.
Ради интереса надо на следующем всплеске комиссий посмотреть работает ли этот сервис или все же они не являются панацеей в критических ситуациях.
204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 13, 2024, 10:38:21 PM
Have you forgotten that Liverpool did not participate in the Champions League this year?  Wink
A place is not guaranteed to anyone, if we were confident in Liverpool it would be an easy +53% per annum. By the way, a change of coach is a very serious factor that can strengthen the team or, on the contrary, weaken it. If I had made an outright bet, I would have chosen a different outcome.

Yeah Liverpool only play in the Europa League because they finished in 5th place last season and that was their worst achievement in the previous 5 seasons, now Liverpool must start everything with a new method and strategy as you said the impact could be better or vice versa. Apart from that, several of Liverpool's mainstay players are heading towards retirement meaning this situation is really not easy and honestly I don't expect more from their performance with a new coach at least in the first season.

Yes, Liverpool’s prospects are vague, but regarding getting into the Champions League there is also a positive option: if England can surpass either Italy or Germany in the UEFA rankings, then there will be 5 spots for EPL. But in any case, restructuring in Liverpool is overdue and it’s good if it takes a couple of seasons. By the way, it will be interesting if City is thrown out of the Premier League, and Liverpool is feverishly rushing to be able to compete with Arsenal... such a season would be interesting to watch.
205  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: June 13, 2024, 10:32:44 PM
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Если совсем коротко, то санкции обходятся бодро, особенно учитывая что только официально 4500 фирм в мире действуют как прокладки для импорта\экспорта и куча стран которая на этом зарабатывает.
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Проблема в том что обход санкций = риски и затраты. Тем кто санкции накладывает по сути без разницы от чего пострадает адресат - от санкций или от затрат на их обход.
Ну по телевизору конечно скажут что "тольковыиграле"  Grin
Я два года назад писал что конечная точка это классическое "нефть в обмен на продовольствие", собственно потихоньку туда и гребем.
206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⚽ Sportsbet's EURO 2024 Last Man Standing - 0.1 BTC minimum reward ⚽⚽⭐ on: June 13, 2024, 10:23:25 PM
Potential winners have already submitted answers and are waiting to enjoy the matches, while I, as a bottler, have yet to do anything; I just know I'll have to rebuy after the first round, which I hope doesn't happen too early.

Why wasn't the Netherlands listed in the second option? You buried them in "Any other country" again, which was tricky one from you. Who is taking credit on that question? Grin

Today I made predictions (the fantasy league is also a prediction) in all competitions and I must note that this competition looks the most difficult due to the randomness. The questions are chosen so that the value/probability of each point is the same (at least it seemed so to me), and I think that the Netherlands was in the third choice just for it to have value.
I think after each round, 20% of the participants will be eliminated.
207  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io 🏀 NBA Finals 🏀 Dallas Mavericks vs Boston Celtics 🏀 Game 4 on: June 13, 2024, 06:29:00 PM
1. Yes
2. No
3. Under
4. Dallas
5. Boston
6. Dallas
7. Boston
208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 12, 2024, 11:08:43 PM
I think the minimum acceptable result that is expected from a United coach is top 4, right? Here's how bookmakers see the teams' chances:

Manchester City - 1.10

Arsenal - 1.25

Liverpool - 1.53

Chelsea - 2.38

Newcastle United - 2.75

Manchester United - 3.00

Tottenham Hotspur - 3.00

Aston Villa - 4.00

So far, I see that United has dropped out of the list of elite clubs and will only fight with the underdogs, and even in that group it is not a favorite. It is unlikely that the appointment of another coach could change this picture much, but the fact remains: for United, getting into the top 4 is the end of dreams, their chances of winning the title are estimated at 1 in 26.
For the top four spots things are looking interesting because we all know three clubs are having no problem for the staying here with last fourth spot is going to the headache because few clubs are trying to improve their strength and fixing their problems which they face in last season but still there is no guaranteed about this who is going to stay for this spot, and we are having five clubs even I am personally having feeling Chelsea and Newcastle Untied are having not strong case but still they can take charge from the start which could be interesting.

Manchester United, Tottenham and Aston Villa could be in fight for this spot with things are clearly indicating this could be not easy and all have to give his best if they want to have this hot seat which is dream for these top clubs with momentum is important, and they have to give their best for staying into these spots.

Have you forgotten that Liverpool did not participate in the Champions League this year?  Wink
A place is not guaranteed to anyone, if we were confident in Liverpool it would be an easy +53% per annum. By the way, a change of coach is a very serious factor that can strengthen the team or, on the contrary, weaken it. If I had made an outright bet, I would have chosen a different outcome.
209  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: June 12, 2024, 07:30:25 PM

Рубль становится все менее конвертируемым, а курс все более виртуальным, ноль сюрпризов.
К сожалению чем больше этот дисбаланс тем сильнее необходимость дальнейшего закрытия интернета ибо крипта/электронные платежные системы, удаленка, интернет бизнес и т.д. Лично я только рад буду черному рынку и двойному курсу (ну пока ещё уголовки за валютные операции не будет).
210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season on: June 12, 2024, 07:19:07 PM
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City are literally a little different from the other loser (PSG), due to the fact that in a season when Real was in crisis (even La Liga was lost to crisis Barcelona) and Bayern was also in crisis, they were able to take the title.
I hope City get banned from participating in European competitions, cheaters are something we need to get rid of.
Man City is different with PSG. PSG never won UCL, Man City could win UCL in Guardiola era. For the next season, I think Man City will try all out to win UCL trophy because it is probably the last season for Guardiola. Why Man City should be banned? If they use big funds to buy players, it is no problem as long as it doesn't break any rules. Anyway, UCL becomes less interesting if Man City is banned, Real Madrid will lose 1 strong opponent. People want to see Man City vs Real Madrid, Haaland vs Mbappe. It will be a great match in the next season.

The problem is precisely that they violated the FFP and this is not a subject for discussion but a fact. They are cheaters. They were suspended from European competition for two years, but the decision was not implemented only because of bureaucratic procedures (if you look at the connection between UEFA and the sheikhs, it is quite clear that there was some corruption here). But now there is a confrontation between the Premier League and City, that is, in fact, between one group of businessmen and another, tricks with corrupt officials will not help (I want to believe this) and City will be punished.
211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: June 12, 2024, 07:11:51 PM
The Seychelles look extremely doubtful against the backdrop of three defeats and a goal difference of 1-19  Grin
If I were to bet, I would bet on Congo, even though they are playing against a clear leader, a random victory here looks more realistic.
I like the bet on the Bahamas (11.0 but you'll find better odds I'm sure) vs St Keys and Nevis. For me these are teams of the same level  Grin

Thank you for your rational thinking, friend. You probably saved me from idiotic bets, I sometimes just need to hear one actual expert point things out like this to me for me to not be an idiot. Congo down 4 goals and Seychelles 1. What was I thinking? Haha

Bahamas 12.4 on Fairlay but I don't have a balance there now, won't make it in time as market closing. And only 10.6 on Sportsbet... I missed out on good odds, but I think some pizza money's good for your tip!


Eh, all the teams ended up losing, but the Bahamas played half the game shorthanded and the score was only 1-0, which makes me think there was value in this bet.
Personally, I have now reached the state I need and am not at all looking for any game to bet on. It seems to me that the most difficult thing is to just wait for value games and not bet simply because there are some games. I plan to start with the third games of the Euro group stage, I think by this time the value of the games will be clear and it will be possible to predict with greater accuracy.
212  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Комиссии за транзакцию on: June 12, 2024, 07:02:25 PM
Сегодня делал взнос в очередной спортивный пул и за 1.5 мбтц заплатил 4 бакса комсы. Чему я обрадовался после того как в этой теме прочёл что какие-то проблемы опять были.
4% это все же чрезмерно дофига, но в условиях когда надо провести транзу не позднее пары дней и этому приходится радоваться. По факту я бы и 10 заплатил если бы была такая минималка (как у меня однажды было с оплатой ВПН).

Когда сеть биткоина в очередной раз засоряют рун-транзакциями, то имеет смысл использовать акселератор транзакций от viabtc. В таком случае комиссия будет пару баксов, а сама транзакция, как правило, подтверждается в течение нескольких часов.

Пока не разбирался с этим (хотя примерно понимаю как это работает), спасибо за подсказку может придется воспользоваться.
А могли бы вы объяснить экономическую подоплеку действий акселератора? Нафига им более дешёвые транзы бустить/исполнять если в пуле есть более выгодные "заказы"?
Я всегда когда вижу что-то хорошее ещё и подвох ищу  Grin
213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: June 12, 2024, 06:55:16 PM
Flick doesn’t have to think about how to improve the team’s financial position, there is a finance director for that. Flick signed a contract and he will definitely receive payment for his work, but he must take care of the team's results, because if he cannot achieve victories, then he will be fired. It also matters what La Porta expects from him, he probably wants to win La Liga and the Champions League, but can Barcelona do it now?

Lewandowski was injured in a friendly match, and will miss the first match of the EURO, the injury was not serious, although I think Flick tensed up when it became known that Lewandowski was injured. Strengthening the attack is one of the main issues for Flick.

It would be interesting to know what specific tasks are assigned to Flick, but this is classified information (at least for now). Barcelona cannot publicly admit that they have no goal of winning La Liga (due to their status) so now we can only guess what they want from him. If we draw an analogy with Xavi, last season they expected any two trophies from him (even the smallest one like the Spanish Cup). It seems to me that the target level for him is set as “no lower than second place in La Liga and no less than the quarterfinals in the Champions League + some title.”
214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 12, 2024, 04:03:17 PM
The problem with judging Ten Hag is the problem with how you position United. If as a top club with temporary problems and the goal of returning to the throne, then Ten Hag is definitely a bad coach (even Solskjaer was closer to the title). If we consider United an ordinary average team for which playing in the Europa League is the norm, and getting into the Champions League is happiness (just getting there, not winning), then Ten Hag is a completely suitable coach.
Regardless of various assumptions, Man United is still an elite Premier League club, this is proven by the way they maintain their existence by spending large budgets in the transfer window, especially during Ten Hag tenure as manager. Management and club officials have decided that Ten Hag will be retained for next season, which means they are ready to act and take all risks with Ten Hag. Of course there will be a major overhaul in the Man United squad, with Ten Hag apparently set to let go of most of the players who have minimal contribution, for Sancho perhaps the door to returning to Old Trafford is closed.

Meanwhile, it feels like it's still too early to guess Man United chances of success next season, because we haven't seen how they execute their plans in the transfer window. Personally, to be fair, I would rank them as one of the elite clubs, who still have hopes of becoming a team challenging for the title next season. Who knows, Ten Hag could be lucky enough to meet fans expectations, or at least be able to present one of the trophies next season.

I think the minimum acceptable result that is expected from a United coach is top 4, right? Here's how bookmakers see the teams' chances:

Manchester City - 1.10

Arsenal - 1.25

Liverpool - 1.53

Chelsea - 2.38

Newcastle United - 2.75

Manchester United - 3.00

Tottenham Hotspur - 3.00

Aston Villa - 4.00

So far, I see that United has dropped out of the list of elite clubs and will only fight with the underdogs, and even in that group it is not a favorite. It is unlikely that the appointment of another coach could change this picture much, but the fact remains: for United, getting into the top 4 is the end of dreams, their chances of winning the title are estimated at 1 in 26.
215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 12, 2024, 03:55:41 PM
Manchester United will very likely stick with Erik Ten Haag next season, https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1800662592035451155
new contract talks are still ongoing, and their focus for next season will be with their young players like Mainoo and Garnacho, and if they will focus on young players, maybe there will be an opportunity for Greenwood return to Manchester United and become the main squad there? Man United fans reportedly don't like him after the cases he experienced, but if he can perform well at Getafe, maybe he will also be able to develop well at United next season, and United will be one of the teams with quite a young squad so they could be even stronger. in the next few seasons.

Unfortunately Ten Hag remains at United, it is confirmed. On the one hand, it will be interesting for me to look at his results for the third season in a row, especially considering the fact that even against the backdrop of anti-records, he claimed that the team was moving in the right direction. But on the other hand, the feeling of schadenfreude that I will get (I'm sure of it haha) will cost the club too much - another lost season.
216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: June 11, 2024, 10:56:48 PM
I don’t think that Flick will be given such a serious task; even Xavi, after the championship season, was given the task of taking any two titles, that is, the season would be successful if Xavi could take the cup and the Spanish Super Cup. Most likely, Flick will also be given a similar task; demanding the La Liga championship from him is not adequate.

With a difficult financial situation, I think Flick will have a hard time. A few weeks ago I read that Flick could not be officially registered as a coach Barcelona in La Liga. If this continues they don't have a good chance of player transfers, unless they get a new flow of funds. Due to the main contender, Real Madrid is currently in great team form due to quite good player transfers. Because of this, I think Barcelona will get heavy pressure from other teams who will still improve with the transfer market.

Last season, Barcelona also experienced problems (even with those levers) with registering players, but in the end they resolved this issue, I think this season their financial situation is a little less acute, so they will sort it out here too. But this is provided that management/Flick do not decide that they need to compete with Real and will not make major transfers.
In terms of pressure on the transfer market, Saudi Arabia remains a major factor. If the KDB receives an offer to earn his salary for the previous 15 years in two years, then this greatly changes the behavior of the players.
217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 11, 2024, 10:49:26 PM
Ten Hag is not a bad coach but he couldn't get the good result they wanted to see in Manchester United and he also had a bad relationship with some players. In fact, he does very hard training for players and people say he will even punish players if they have bad performances which makes players to think he is a bad coach when he is not. I think Ten Hag can even stay there in Manchester United for a longer time because of the performance he has there.

The problem with judging Ten Hag is the problem with how you position United. If as a top club with temporary problems and the goal of returning to the throne, then Ten Hag is definitely a bad coach (even Solskjaer was closer to the title). If we consider United an ordinary average team for which playing in the Europa League is the norm, and getting into the Champions League is happiness (just getting there, not winning), then Ten Hag is a completely suitable coach.
218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 11, 2024, 09:57:57 PM
The rumors that are starting to circulate might come true, Guardiola has succeeded in raising the Premier League with various trophies that have been presented to Manchester City, he has also become the first coach to win the EPL trophy four times in a row. His contract with The Cityzen will soon expire, Manchester City certainly doesn't want to lose one of the best coaches who has succeeded in making new history for the club after winning the UCL trophy.
A new contract offer will soon be prepared in order to keep Guardiola with them longer, but the decision remains with Guardiola whether he wants to continue his career with Manchester City or not. Maybe he has another mission after successfully conquering the EPL, such as moving to Serie A to win several titles there.

The last time Guardiola participated in real competition was in Barcelona, ​​where he was kicked out by Mourinho Grin For me, it is extremely doubtful that he will take on any project where titles will not be guaranteed, even taking into account the last two seasons in Serie A where teams became champions in a dominant style there is serious competition.
First, he will wait until the fight between the League and City ends. If the cheaters win, then there will be no point in leaving.
219  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Комиссии за транзакцию on: June 11, 2024, 08:21:25 PM
Сегодня делал взнос в очередной спортивный пул и за 1.5 мбтц заплатил 4 бакса комсы. Чему я обрадовался после того как в этой теме прочёл что какие-то проблемы опять были.
4% это все же чрезмерно дофига, но в условиях когда надо провести транзу не позднее пары дней и этому приходится радоваться. По факту я бы и 10 заплатил если бы была такая минималка (как у меня однажды было с оплатой ВПН).
220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season on: June 11, 2024, 07:09:28 PM
The Real Madrid team has been strong since Pati but this season Mbappe has become even stronger due to the addition of Mbappe to the Real Madrid team.  And this season will always be top and i can say manchester city can take second place and real madrid is likely to take first place. There will be a huge fight in the points table.
Mbappe just had a 5 years contract with Real Madrid, and he hasn't featured in any of the Real Madrid matches(Champions League or Laliga). To that, We don't know how his performance with Real Madrid will look like "good or bad" but we just hope it will be a fantastic one that keeps Real Madrid more formidable as they already are to lift the Laliga and Champions League trophy once again in the upcoming season

In my opinion, everything is clear in La Liga, Mbappe must make his contribution to the Champions League, Real dominates in La Liga even without him. But I hope that in La Liga Mbappe will change the picture that we have seen in recent years - the top scorer scores 24 goals (this season, and last 23) and does not claim the golden boot. This is unusual for La Liga.
Due to the change in the Champions League format, unfortunately, it will not be entirely clear how Mbappe will correspond to the level of Ronaldo, who is the standard.
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