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1181  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в РФ on: January 05, 2024, 11:12:43 AM
Для граждан тоже тариф заиксуют (как я понимаю "нормы" потребления ЭЭ все-таки протолкнут и под этим соусом повысят)  Grin
Что впрочем неизбежно - если инфляция условно в 30%, то так или иначе цены будут расти на все, никаких дотаций не хватит чтобы утаивать шило в мешке.

Что касается того кем надо быть, то уже свое мнение высказывал - надо быть особо приближенной особой, иначе делать в папуасиях нечего. Даже большой бизнес уже вовсю дербанят ("добровольный" налог на сверхдоходы стал перманентным, национализируют все подряд), тут просто нечего ловить уже.
дык будем посмотреть. кто в частном доме проектные 15 киловатт запретит? но если цена будет зависеть от потребления ээ, то это не очень хорошо для майнинга.
у меня 1 локация минусом вышла из за счетчиков на столбах. цена будет по 4рубля в деревне, но больше 5 киловатт не стоит потреблять.

Запретить не запретят, а вот потреблять на всю катушку запретят за ту же цену не дадут. За первую тысячу киловатт-часов заплатите по "дотируемому" тарифу, за вторую по якобы рынку, а дальше три шкуры сдерут.

для граждан тариф и так раз в полгода поднимают, тут и фиксировать не надо. +уже предупредили, что денег печатать будут. особо и фиксировать не надо.

особо приближенных особ мало, а денег хочется. мой вариант быть маленьким и неинтересным. не вести блоги всякие, лицом не торговать и дробить по локациям и лицам профиты.

Я не про фиксы, а про иксы  Cheesy В условиях дикой инфляции текущие повышения не восстанавливают реальный баланс цен (правда в условиях папуасий рыночные механизмы работают криво и дисбалансы могут держаться очень долго, но все же) поэтому 100% будут пропихивать нормы потребления или что-то подобное что "скрыто" повысит тарифы на более серьезный уровень.
1182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? on: January 04, 2024, 06:01:26 PM
However, when the mentally unstable person had no intention of disturbing the people who were also gambling at the casino, the officers also didn't mind. They just assumed he was among the many gamblers who wanted to gamble. The officer allowed the person to gamble, and I think before the officer allowed the person to enter the casino, the officer must have asked his superiors first. Perhaps that's why the officers allowed the person to continue gambling after he finished his activities, especially since all this time, the person only came to gamble and left the casino after he finished gambling. And it wasn't a threat to the casino because they didn't see anything suspicious about the person while he was gambling at the casino. But if the person looks suspicious and has different intentions than before, the officers will interrogate him and take him to another room or even remove him from the casino and will not allow the person to return to the casino.

I don't think you understand the profile of the person we are talking about. You might want to read the op again to be in the same plane with us all. Actually it was stated clearly at the op's that the mentally unstable person could be obviously identified due to the dirty cloths he wore, with his unkept hear and beard. However that description would only mean one thing when ever someone put on that kind of look, it means he is mentally unstable, meaning he goes nut most times or he doesn't think like a normal human being.

You are a little naive.
Let's say the staff refused to serve him, and the next day the company received a multimillion-dollar lawsuit for discrimination against their client (who, according to documents, is completely healthy). In many countries such a claim will be satisfied. How do you see this situation now? What seems “obvious” to you, in fact, according to the documents, may not be what it seems to you because either by accident or on purpose someone is trying to mislead you (so that, for example, they can later get money from you in court).
1183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 04, 2024, 05:55:19 PM
People are just willing to be realistic with the performance of chelsea. The performance of chelsea is far from good. Im even refrain from myself to bet on this club.

Honestly, i never ever try to pick chelsea but i can still consider to pick double chance or total over in the match of chelsea but it will not for 1x2 which didn't even make sense. Chelsea's performance was unbelievable.

Pochettino is still having a very long way to go in improving the performance from chelsea. Let's see how much money is going to be spent by the club soon. I expect todd to spend more money.

You can make money on Chelsea by betting on their opponents  Wink

Chelsea surprises me in that it seems that they have had both bad and good parts of the season when it would seem they have made serious progress (compared to where they found themselves at some point), but in the standings they are always consistently somewhere deep down. In fact, they are very close to Newcastle and United, but according to subjective feelings, even the crisis United and Newcastle are much higher than Chelsea lol.
1184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often do you win? on: January 04, 2024, 05:48:01 PM
When I place a bet with odds of 2, I win on average 48% of the time. When I bet with odds of 10 I win on average 9% of the time and so on  Grin I hope you understand the principle by which this works. Of course, there are good days when the winnings exceed the losses, but since I like large odds in betting, they happen infrequently.

If you win less than 40% of the time you should consider finding another hobby, unless you  play the lottery and it's 99% loss followed by a big win that nullifies all the previous losses, but I wouldn't be able to stand that mentally. I need a win from time to time to boost my confidence. I personally know people who play every day for a month without a single win and then they finally get that win that pays for another month of losing, but IMO they're not completely right in the head. They don't understand how deeply addicted they are.

But this is not much different from having frequent but small wins, the essence is the same. I don’t think that the degree to which people are addicted to gambling can be determined by the odds they prefer to bet on. I knew people who bet a lot every day, at meager odds of 1.02-1.05, and naturally most days they were in the black, but then one loss nullified all their efforts. I don’t think they were less addicted than your friends.
1185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 04, 2024, 05:30:57 PM
Ancelotti can able to managed Real Madrid consistency until now because in Laliga Real Madrid still occupy first place and at group stages of champion league too Real Madrid still unbeatable with collect 18 points from 6 matches so they are clearly the favourite in this competition but Leipzig also quite consistent because at Bundesliga they can occupy 4th place and at group stage Leipzig only lose from Manchester City and regarding first leg here is the current odds for both teams

Leipzig @3.25
Real Madrid @2.11

The bookmakers provide good odds for them~

I think we see such generous odds only because this is the first game and Real Madrid does not have to win here, since all issues in a situation where the favorite plays away in the first match can be resolved at home. Remember the confrontation between Leipzig and City? First there was a draw and then City won with a score of, I think, 7-0 in Manchester. It is very difficult to imagine how the first game will go, for some reason it is much easier for me now to imagine the result of the game at Santiago Bernabeu, although it is further away  Grin
1186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 04, 2024, 05:22:52 PM
The current odds for the game are:

1.21 - 6.08 - 13.23

Mallorca are really doing well - in the last 6 games they have 3 wins and three draws, but this does not work against Real Madrid. Real Madrid have 80% of the points in their last 10 games and will definitely win the home game. I think in this game it makes sense to bet on Real Madrid winning with a handicap of -1 or the Total Over.
Total over much more preferable and i remind you that if vini will able to play against mallorca. So, i expect madrid to have better attackers than before. Real madrid will likely score more than two goals against mallorca.
Real madrid is in the best condition caused by the club has enough time to take rest and so they are coming back again with very good condition. Vini is also ready to perform even better than before.

ez win for 1x2 real madrid but the odds was pretty small though. I prefer to take total over goal rather than 1x2

Quite unexpectedly, both bets that I could have made would have lost. Moreover, despite the fact that Mallorca had zero shots on target, they were twice close to scoring a goal, but hit the post. Otherwise, Real dominated, but had problems converting scoring chances; in any case, three points is three points and this next victory brings them closer to the title. Girona also won the thriller game against Atlético, but I still expect them to be weaker in the long run.
1187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 04, 2024, 01:53:58 PM
AC Milan, Liverpool, and Leverkusen are the favorite teams to win Europa League title. They have quality players on their squad, they also have good experience in international matches. So, no doubt that they are superior against other teams in Europa League. However, we can't underestimate other teams, smaller teams are impossible to eliminate bigger teams. AC Milan and Liverpool performance look not really stable in international matches, they also look not in their best form in domestic leagues. I only see that Leverkusen is the most stable team in the term of performance. So, Leverkusen should be the most favorite team to win the title.

In fact, bookmakers do not consider Milan one of the main favorites, look:

Liverpool 3.09

Bayer Leverkusen 5.88

Milan 10.29

Brighton 12.74

West Ham 14.70

Roma 16.66

As you can see, there are two main favorites: Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen, and a second group of contenders, which includes Milan. It is noteworthy that the second group consists of two Italian teams and two English ones. Overall, at least for now, the season is going well for Italian clubs again. Quite surprising considering that Serie A lags far behind other top leagues in terms of finances.
1188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: January 04, 2024, 01:43:33 PM
Why think about what people say about us, is it somehow capable of influencing our well-being, or any other aspects of our lives?
There are things that will never change, people will always talk about other people, but they forget about it as soon as they stop talking about it.~

As they say: at the age of 20 I was worried about what they thought of me, at the age of 40 I didn’t care what they thought of me, at the age of 60 I realized that no one ever thought about me  Grin
In general, this works, but I would say that you should listen to the opinions of relatives - if there are healthy relationships in the family, then most likely they wish you well, even if they are wrong in their opinion.
1189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 04, 2024, 01:37:31 PM
Yes, despite the fact that last year Cremonese played in Serie A, and now plays in Serie B, even in the cup you always expect a more confident victory from a club that is good in the main division. At the very end of the game, Roma responded with two goals and it is unlikely that we will see a change in the score until the end of the game - Roma are interested in avoiding extra time and will not rush forward to score a third goal.

I somehow saw it coming and I also thought that Lukaku might be the one who scores the first goal. I was pretty sure that if they were able to score the first one with some time left, they would still win the game and that is what they did. That's actually when I like to watch Roma games because if there is something to fight for (and not something to defend because they had to win), then Roma can play great stuff. That's why normally I prefer games when Roma concedes the first goal. If it is the other way around, the games usually become boring like hell.

100%!  Grin That's Mourinho - a 1-0 score is enough to win.
By the way, with the score 1-1, the bookmakers assessed the probability of Roma's victory as 1.2 - quite high, taking into account the fact that the score was slippery and there was little time left until the end of the game, and if Cremonese had scored, it is unlikely that Roma would have had time to win back.
Now in the 1/4 we are waiting for the Roman derby Lazio - Roma. I don’t expect anything interesting from these games, most likely it will be something like 1-0, 0-1 in a stubborn, sticky fight.
1190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Shared games helped you before? on: January 04, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
There is a place for luck in life, but you are unlikely to attract it by listening to the words of a muddy friend.

There is one thing I don't get disturbed over my life because I know certainly we all have a place to prosper even though I didn't make it through his games or gambling that doesn't mean my luck won't shine in other areas of life, and of curse we shouldn't be thrilled by a word without confirmation and such is very tempting possibly could make someone have a mental problems or mental disorderliness while reflecting back to his trial just a little break I was called that someone else won huge amount. This looks very silly and lies more of unrealistic.

I agree with both points. Luck is good, but as long as a person has the strength (in fact, this is most of life) he does not need luck to feel good - he just needs to work and it will be rewarded. As for trusting the words of others, this is generally a bad thing. Firstly, a significant percentage of the population is mentally ill/simply stupid. This alone is enough to not trust anyone, but there is a second point: there are a lot of scammers. They deliberately distort information to deceive you. In such conditions, you can’t take anyone’s word for it.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 04, 2024, 01:13:49 PM
At the moment, Mbappe is guaranteed two games in the Champions League (in the 1/8 finals), if he changes clubs during the winter transfer window, he will lose the right to play in this season of the Champions League. I'm 99% sure that he won't do this.
I will leave one percent to the fact that somehow miraculously he will end up in Liverpool (and will play in the Europa League, which is better than nothing) since in recent days rumors that Liverpool have entered the fight for Mbappe have intensified again.

But let's assume that Mbappe would leave PSG during the winter transfer window, who would benefit from that? I am not perfectly familiar with the regulations rolled out by the UEFA for players who change clubs in winter and played the Champions League already, but would he be allowed to play in the Europa League?

Anyway, if he changed the clubs, who would be the winners? Liverpool most likely no as they would have to pay a transfer fee while they could get him without paying that fee in summer. Mbappe is not the winner because he would not play the CL anymore, he would (I think) not be allowed to play the Europa League and his signing bonus would decrease significantly. Now he can charge a huge signing bonus in summer because his contract expires. So in summary, Mbappe would lose. PSG would get some transfer fee although it will be far below of what they asked for last summer. But they would lose their biggest hope for the CL games. I don't see a winner when this transaction became real in winter and is not just a rumor.

As far as I remember, the meaning of the restrictions when changing clubs is so that a player who started a tournament in one club cannot play for another team during this tournament (probably to avoid the paradox when a player plays for team A in the group stage, but against team A in the playoffs). Mbappe has not played in the Europa League this season so there are no restrictions on him. By the way, it’s funny, but a paradox could theoretically arise. For example, if a player plays in the Champions League and his team is relegated to the Europa League, and the player himself changes clubs, then in the Europa League playoffs he can play against his former club.
Yes, I also think that these are nothing more than rumors and such a transfer will not take place in the winter.
1192  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в РФ on: January 04, 2024, 01:04:57 PM
Минэнерго хочет сосчитать всех криптомайнеров
Для этого предлагается реестр ферм и повышение для них энерготарифов

Из проекта постановления следует, что тариф на передачу электроэнергии (платеж энергосетям) для центров обработки данных (ЦОД), используемых для майнинга, вырастет в энергодефицитных регионах в 2-5 раз. В конечной цене электроэнергии тариф может достигать 50-60%. Власти конкретного региона смогут скорректировать повышающий коэффициент, и он не может быть менее 2, то есть плата за передачу вырастет минимум вдвое.
я не знаю кем надо быть, чтобы создавать ЦОД под майнинг в энергодефицитном регионе. это и без повышающего коэффициента быть первым кандидатом на отключение.
и, в этом случае, я на стороне минэнерго. в приоритете должны быть граждане, а не бизнес, пусть даже майнинг.

Для граждан тоже тариф заиксуют (как я понимаю "нормы" потребления ЭЭ все-таки протолкнут и под этим соусом повысят)  Grin
Что впрочем неизбежно - если инфляция условно в 30%, то так или иначе цены будут расти на все, никаких дотаций не хватит чтобы утаивать шило в мешке.

Что касается того кем надо быть, то уже свое мнение высказывал - надо быть особо приближенной особой, иначе делать в папуасиях нечего. Даже большой бизнес уже вовсю дербанят ("добровольный" налог на сверхдоходы стал перманентным, национализируют все подряд), тут просто нечего ловить уже.
1193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: January 03, 2024, 10:40:45 PM
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 Is Atlético really not capable of a comeback in at least 5 such games? It seems to me that it is capable, in the worst case there will be a draw.

it is 3:3 now, and looks as Atletico can win this one
although I would prefer to have it as 3:3 for the pool (when it can't be boring 1:1 for exact score), and I wouldn't bet on Atletico at this point

Girona played all good so far, but I expect them to fade at some point, maybe that will not be today, but it would be great coicidence, since Girona had great 2023, and this is 2024

Wow, what a game. After 3-3, I thought that I was right, but still Girona snatched the victory. But by the way, this does not negate the fact that a bet on Atlético to win with odds of 6 looks like value.
Judging by the statistics, a draw would be a fair outcome, but... maybe this is champion luck?  Roll Eyes
My condolences to Morata who scored a hat-trick but there is no way to rejoice because of the final result.
1194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 03, 2024, 10:02:08 PM
I already said what type of player I was talking about. A big transfer like Mbappe could change the direction of the Champions League for the team transferred him. We can't be 100% sure about this transfer not to happen in January at the same time. I just feel like it would happen this summer probably rather than January.

But it is really difficult to be sure of something in the transfer market. It is all about money and what that player feels about this transfer to happen immediately.  Smiley

Since Mbappe is available for a contract offer we never know.

At the moment, Mbappe is guaranteed two games in the Champions League (in the 1/8 finals), if he changes clubs during the winter transfer window, he will lose the right to play in this season of the Champions League. I'm 99% sure that he won't do this.
I will leave one percent to the fact that somehow miraculously he will end up in Liverpool (and will play in the Europa League, which is better than nothing) since in recent days rumors that Liverpool have entered the fight for Mbappe have intensified again.
1195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Shared games helped you before? on: January 03, 2024, 09:55:58 PM
~
Okay, I started developing interest by staking some of his games he do shared about 4 to 8 consecutive time I keep trying his games but didn't work out, like no winning has been made and he kept saying I should try last more. It was then I got weird over his failing games and stopped after that day he called me and said someone won about NGN 60,000,000 which about $50,000 with a bet of $2. Some times I began to wonder whether is my fault for not keep following him or what maybe who know what could have happened if that kept having patient to play his predicted games.

Just say let me bring this here to see how many of you have been in such situation where you have been trying for long and the day you decided not to try luck the winning will come just like a magic. Have you experience that before?

Do I understand correctly that when you tried to place bets on his advice, nothing worked (a fact that you yourself established), and from his words someone allegedly won a lot (it is impossible to verify the truth of his words)?
It seems to me that in this situation everything is clear and I don’t understand what can be discussed here. Your friend is either a gambling addict, a pathological liar, or is deliberately trying to deceive you (hoping that you will accidentally win big and share the winnings with him).
Just stop paying attention to his words and don’t think too much about the fact that someone won something. There is a place for luck in life, but you are unlikely to attract it by listening to the words of a muddy friend.
1196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 03, 2024, 09:47:39 PM
~
In the ongoing match between Roma vs Cremonese, the match has entered the 59th minute and it seems that Roma are really having trouble in this match. I don't understand why Roma has been so easy for their opponents to break through their goal this season. The match has entered the 62nd minute where Cremonese is able to lead 0-1 in this match.

Yes, despite the fact that last year Cremonese played in Serie A, and now plays in Serie B, even in the cup you always expect a more confident victory from a club that is good in the main division. At the very end of the game, Roma responded with two goals and it is unlikely that we will see a change in the score until the end of the game - Roma are interested in avoiding extra time and will not rush forward to score a third goal.
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: January 03, 2024, 09:39:41 PM
I may be bad at this pool but at least I am making money on Girona every week. Can't believe bookies did not start to drop the odds on them.

Both to score was 1.65 which was free money. Had it on all tickets. Then I also took both to score and over 2.5 goals which was over 1.9. and of course both passed in first 30 minutes.

Granted Koke gave away second goal to Girona way to easy.

 Grin But on the contrary (though this does not apply to cash bets), I lose. I keep waiting for Girona's results to return to "normality" but they continue their phenomenal run.
Meanwhile, after the first half, the score is 3-2 in favor of Girona and it seems to me that it’s time to bet on Atlético:

1.60 - 3.72 - 6.08

It seems to me that they have already shown that they are serious and the most unfortunate development of events does not put pressure on them. Is Atlético really not capable of a comeback in at least 5 such games? It seems to me that it is capable, in the worst case there will be a draw.
1198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: January 03, 2024, 09:30:31 PM
I think Everton are safe and the bookmakers' odds confirm this. In fact, they have the same number of points (including the penalty) as their main competitors, but they show a much better performance than them (without the penalty they would be far ahead) so I rather expect Everton to rise and improve their position in the standings than the other way around.
Plus, I still really want Everton to remain in the Premier League, since this whole story with the fine (while clubs like City and Chelsea remain invulnerable) looks unpleasant.

Everton is pretty decent generally speaking and they wouldnt be in this kind of situation if it wasnt for the 10 minus points but there are a whole lot of games remaining and honestly Luton is a pretty decent team as well. I honestly would want Luton to stick around for 1 more season so Im rooting for them, I'll be glad if NFO ended up taking that 3rd spot on relegation zone

*no Im not salty because they beat Manchester United Lips sealed

To be honest, I don't think I've seen a single Luton game this season, but when I look at the statistics I see that Everton and Luton are at different levels. Everton have 8 wins, Luton have 4. Everton have a goal difference of -4 and Luton -14.
If Luton are that good then expect them to beat Nottingham Forest. In principle, any team up to and including 14th place can be relegated, but I think that these will be exactly the teams that the bookmakers indicated.
1199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: January 03, 2024, 01:45:31 PM
Public critisism is okay, but I don't care if some people has a say about what I am doing, there is nothing they can do and I am not aggrieved by them. I don't even ask them for any amount for gambling, so I don't care what they will say or think. People will quickly judge and insulted you just because they knew that you're into gambling, that's how low they look at people who participated in any gambling activity.

I think the OP meant, first of all, the opinion of close people, and here this position “I don’t care about everyone, I myself know how to act” does not work. If you live in a family, then even some personal things concern not only you, and even more so potentially dangerous things like gambling.
If we are talking about strangers, then I again disagree with you - public criticism in this case is unacceptable because it is aggression. It would never occur to me to criticize any stranger and teach him about life (how to work, how to eat, how to play, etc.) because I know that this could end in a fight  Grin I expect the same attitude towards myself - if someone intrusively shares their opinion for which I did not ask, he will get hit on the head.
1200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 03, 2024, 01:37:22 PM
Quite strange play-offs this year, don’t you think, colleagues?  Roll Eyes
Last year we had a super match Barcelona - United + such teams as Bayer, Juventus, Ajax, PSV, Roma in other pairs. This year there is not a single top pair, and the most recognizable brands are Milan and Roma. It's more like the Conference League now. Potentially in the 1/8 we will already be able to see interesting confrontations, for example Liverpool - Milan or Bayer - Roma, but there is nothing even close to last year.
Where did it all go? There are also many dull couples in the Champions League  Grin
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