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2021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Notice that while BTC & ETH fall, Doge is Stable on: June 18, 2022, 06:30:11 PM
Actually btc dropped ~40%, in the last 30days.
$30k down to ~$18K, is $12K.
I actually checked on coingecko and those were the figures which were given. When you consider that the price was not flat at $30k, but actually a little below it, and the price now is hovering above $18k; considering the values of the couple hundred dollars, it runs up to about 35.9% drop.

Mainly talking about the last 24 hours where Doge has barely moved, and btc dropped ~$2K.
Doge has dropped about 9% (that's not barely moved) within the past 24 hours, with Bitcoin on a drop of ~11%.

Bitcoin is a lot more expensive, so a drop in it would be massive (relatively) when you compare it with other coins.
Consider the percentage difference and not the actual price movement.
2022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Notice that while BTC & ETH fall, Doge is Stable on: June 18, 2022, 06:15:01 PM
Checking the charts, Doge has dropped about 37% over the last 30 days, while Bitcoin is at around a 35% drop and ETH is over 40%.

Not dropping below a certain resistant point over a period of time does not equate to more stability when compared with other coins.
2023  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PETER SCHIFF IS RIGHT... All Ponzi Schemes eventually FAIL even BlockChain Ponzi on: June 18, 2022, 06:03:33 PM
[BitCoin was given EVERY CHANCE in the world to succeed....  It failed.     

You can get very rich by investing early in a Ponzi Scheme   Grin    That does not change the fact that a Ponzi Scheme will always go to zero.
You are not discussing objectively. I don't know what you even mean by every chance.
If you want to troll Bitcoin at least come up with reasonable arguments against it other than, "Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme which is goin to zero".

How about you come back when Bitcoin actually goes to zero?
2024  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PETER SCHIFF IS RIGHT... All Ponzi Schemes eventually FAIL even BlockChain Ponzi on: June 18, 2022, 05:02:37 PM
• First Peter Schiff was right,
• Then, we Bitcoin people were right;
OMG,  You guys were right about BitCoin price going up  Shocked Shocked Shocked  I wish I had bought in back in march   Sad
• Now, Peter Schiff is right again.

The inconsistency in your ideas and opinions with tweets from people or price actions shows you should not invest in Bitcoin at all, and that's perfectly fine.
Not everyone needs to invest in Bitcoin.

It does not matter if a Ponzi Scheme is based on Tulips, Based on Chain Letters, or Based on Blockchain.  No matter what method you use to run a PONZI SCHEME...  Nothing changes the fact that BitCoin has zero intrinsic value, is a PONZI and will collapse like every PONZI in history.
People throw the word 'ponzi' around, without understanding what it actually is.
A pomzi scheme, functions similar to a pyramid scheme, where a central authority lures investors with the incentive of profits, which are gained from earlier investors.

Bitcoin is an asset which is projected to appreciate in value over time with more adoption and popularity and based on price history, just like stocks of public companies and many other assets. Bitcoin also has utility besides buying and selling as it allows borderless P2P transactions between users
There is no central authority or promise of profit.
2025  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador loses more than half the value of its reserves in bitcoins on: June 18, 2022, 04:51:17 PM
Right. Although, if they don't hold through the dip, we might see Bitcoin go on sale even more. Since, its confirmation bias for a lot of people, that if it fails in El Salvador they'll see it as a risky investment, which will never be adoption by serious businesses or countries again. I'm definitely not saying they're right in thinking that, but they will absolutely think it.
I definitely see how that could happen. Many holders are moved by sentiments, reason why we can see huge sell offs once the price turns down leading to more dips. This is of course becoming less of an influence with time and traders are not as moved by the action of certain individuals, but a country cutting ties with Bitcoin would be a big deal.

I don't mind the price dropping a little further, but I'd rather El Salvador cutting their loses not be the cause of it as it could significantly hurt adoption in the medium term, at least from a legal tender point of view.
It could also show others who get in that the market can turn different ways and you should be prepared to handle dips.
2026  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC is coming back on: June 18, 2022, 02:05:28 PM
Is this the beginning of the end or just bad period
That is up to you to decide. When it comes to investments, you have to do your own research, as you bear the risk involved.

Bitcoin now has lots of historical data which anyone can look through if you need previous last records.
2027  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador loses more than half the value of its reserves in bitcoins on: June 17, 2022, 07:11:00 PM
Basically all Bitcoin holders who bought within the past 7 months have lost a huge portion on their investments.
Having an investment register red candles is not bad on its own, it only is, if you cannot hold through that period and would need to panic sell as you invested more than you can afford to lose.

If El Salvador's reserves can absorb the Bitcoin dip comfortably, then it's not much of an issue.
2028  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is dead! on: June 17, 2022, 06:59:08 PM
If there is an industry that cares more about the short term than the mainstream media I do not know it,
For some it's sponsored propaganda, for others it's a bid to align with the bias of governments, and others are just skeptical and are looking for ways to trend using catchy headlines about bitcoin's death.

Journalism in general has taken a huge drop in the last decade and there seems to be no bottom yet as it becomes more about who can get more attention by being the most dramatic.

I used to search for neutral news sites, then quickly come to the conclusion that they don't really exist. Even the ones which are known for being more neutral than others, have a bias in some shape or form.
Exactly this.
How people view the world these days has greatly become a result of what news outlets you listen to as each have their own side of the story, while the actual story takes the back seat.
2029  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is dead! on: June 17, 2022, 05:23:30 PM
At every point in the past, anyone who has held Bitcoin through market crisis has been right to hold, as the price has progressively appreciated despite inflation and global economic recession.

Media houses would still release such headlines to get traffic and stay in the times.
As a hodler, such reports or even the price fluctuations do not matter much. All that matters is buying and having a secure storage to hold in.
2030  Economy / Speculation / Re: WHAT EVENT DO YOU THINK WILL USHER BTC INTO THE NEXT BULLRUN? on: June 17, 2022, 05:14:51 PM
1. Do you think such prediction models are realistic?

2. What major event do you think will usher BTC and the entire industry into the next bullrun?

3. Do you think Microstragy purchasing large units of btc will influence the price?
• Yes, price prediction can be built on realistic assessment. This of course does not mean the price would reflect the expectations of any model, but it's possible to build your model on sound technical and fundamental analysis.
The idea of having a model to mirror the price at every stage is impossible, but you can have something similar at different points.

• Who knows? The only certain future event in relation to Bitcoin is the halving, besides that no one can predict what would happen.

• Not really. Big institutions purchasing Bitcoin is a positive and can influence trader sentiment, but it's already so popular that no singular purchase should have a big impact on the price.
2031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Teaching college students about Bitcoin on: June 15, 2022, 08:11:01 PM
Good job in educating younger generations about the pros and cons of bitcoin. It's a step in the right direction as many individuals grow into adulthood without understanding money or how it works.

Teaching about Bitcoin invariably would open discussions about investments and financial awareness. This would build young minds to be able to handle financial decisions and begin the journey of being independent much earlier.
My takeaway would be not to give close ended statements, like Bitcoin is the best investment, the students should be able to explore and study how investments work, read books and then make up their mind on that.
2032  Other / Meta / Re: Warning in PM, is this a new feature? on: June 15, 2022, 07:59:00 PM
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen that before, and I get quite a few PMs.  Are the mods making a judgement call on what constitutes a phishing PM?
This seems to me like an automated process where a link could be flagged as suspicious if it's hyperlinked or part of an image, I do not think it's a case of mods making a judgement call on what constitutes phishing as that would go against the forun policy of not moderating scams.

This would definitely cause a lot of newer accounts to have unread PMs as many users here, would avoid messages with such warning from a profile they are not acquainted with.
2033  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where will Bitcoin stabalize?? on: June 14, 2022, 09:33:08 PM
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Market cap as a metric is not really significant and should not be used as a case study when considering an asset. Think of it more like a way for altcoins to get more relevant as they can easily inflate their market cap by minting lots of tokens into the market to create the impression that they are high capped assets.

What do you mean by "the current price is too high for the current market cap"?
2034  Economy / Economics / Re: Wage gap between CEOs and US workers jumped to 670-to-1 last year, study finds on: June 14, 2022, 08:42:41 PM
- it something that my mum says but it does make sense, one is able to profit off all the situations easily if they have a certain amount of money in their bank and a wide network.
That's a pretty wide quite from your mum and is very apt in my opinion. Opportunities lie in almost every situation, and bad situations usually create more opportunities as there are more problems that one can solve.

The financial policies also seem to favor the rich as well, therefore I do think that taxation, job opportunities, they should all resonate equally with your wealth, people should be not be able to find loopholes like giving charity to church and taking tax reduction on that area and saving millions, these loopholes must be discusses and managed.
The rich can always lobby for such loopholes to be created to give them a sort of leeway which would allow them safe some money and evade stringent regulations
2035  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Transfer from BRD on: June 14, 2022, 07:59:13 PM
With your seed phrase you have full ownership of your address and would always be able to access it regardless of what happens to a certain wallet software.

With that you can import into any wallet of your choice. Electrum which is suggested above is a good choice of a non custodian wallet.
2036  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where will Bitcoin stabalize?? on: June 14, 2022, 07:37:35 PM
Yet many well read people like American billionaire businessman David Rubenstein said that crypto would not go anywhere despite the ongoing market correction.
Firstly, do not base your investment decision on the comments of "experts" or "well read" individuals. Do your own Research.
I agree that the crypto market is not going anywhere, but lots of cryptocurrencies would fizzle out during this period, this is an effect of market sentiments and scam projects getting exposed as they were just riding on hype.

How long will this market correction will continue and where will this stop.. and where will Bitcoin stabalize
No one can answer any of these questions with accuracy.
If you have done your fundamental research and believe Bitcoin is going to rebound then you buy or hodl.
2037  Other / Meta / Re: xzone Merit Source Application on: June 14, 2022, 05:49:33 PM
Good luck on your application

Going through the first few pages of your profile; you majorly visit your local board and I have not come across your profile before.
But local merit sources are always welcome as they encourage discussions in the local section which is very vital for the forum as a whole.

You are also active in giving merits in your local board, which makes a good fit for the job. Hopefully Theymos considers adding new sources anytime soon as there are some pending applications. All in due time.
2038  Economy / Economics / Re: Wage gap between CEOs and US workers jumped to 670-to-1 last year, study finds on: June 14, 2022, 05:16:40 PM
Wage gao between the top 5% or 10% and the rest has been growing for quite a long time now. The rich seems to always find a way to make more money while legally evading financial policies which were originally designed to take from the rich.
One of such policies is taxation; As a concept, taxes were initially implemented to leverage on the wealth ofthe rich, but the rich used loopholes to evade it.

I am not expectant of government policies actually making much of an impact on the wage gap, and especially not for a prolonged period of time.

Probably an error; you posted the imgur link twice; once with the img tag and the other without it.
2039  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not dead but it was called as dead 450+ times. on: June 14, 2022, 03:46:01 PM
Some people I knew actually informed about Bitcoin in 2017 but until now, they did not join. When Bitcoin soared to nearly $20,000 in late of 2017, they felt regret. Again, when Bitcoin hits $69,000 they felt regret. It is exactly what they told me but they just said, if you can help me to buy Bitcoin in previous years. Something like this.
I have also encountered people like this who come up with excuses not to buy, the excuses sometimes change and could be;
• It's too technical for me to understand
• It is too expensive, I would not get much for the amount I have (but they will watch their savings eroded by inflation,
• I wish the price would dip (when it's rising)
• The market is unstable (when it starts dipping)
• and so, and so.

Such people would likely never buy, or would end up buying some shitcoin which is sold at $0.0001 per token in the hope of getting into the "next Bitcoin" early
2040  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not dead but it was called as dead 450+ times. on: June 14, 2022, 02:48:21 PM
Here comes the time where we get the usual questions about whether the crypto market can recover and if Bitcoin is dead; I expect the Bitcoin Discussion board to get busy with posts and trolls.

So, it is good time to be greed when others are fearful. If in either 2020 or 2021 you hoped to see Bitcoin at price $20,000 to buy it at discount price, now you have opportunity, will you take it?

Or will you be fearful now and regret later?
Many people who say they are waiting for the price to go down before buying do not really plan on buying, it's just a reason they make up for why they do not want to buy,
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