At least your last post was funny. Thanks.

Anyway i would have never said it, but that pdf (https://hashfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gn_protocol.pdf) is really good.
Finally some proofs that they have been working on something. But this good feeling is still overcomed by the incredibly similarity with the BFL paper released months before anything... BFL's paper was poorer, at least.

^^ I've yet to read the link in its whole and it could be only useless ad hoc created content to rank high on google, for what i understood so far. Anyway, i will post it here.

Thank you for the link. I will crosspost your quote in my thread if you don't mind.

I closed that thread and continued in a new one where i stated that i wasen't looking for anyone's money, but yes, that makes me a layer. Keep believing that.

Will you start to trow that around for the next months too (until when hf delivers?)

Oh god, here, too.
I offered you something that you will trow around for months, didn't i?

>You mean from end of october to middle of november, no?
Well, we will see that when they finally deliver.

>I can have a PCB prototypes made in 2 days and volume production in a week.
This makes me suppose that they don't have a draft of the PCB ready yet.

>I see no evidence of lying at this point.
You are right. It's not lying, but the next time i have an evident example, i will quote that for you. Anyway no lying, sorry for that.

News!
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/597-bitforce-sc-communication-protocol-draft.html

Attached is a copy of our draft of the communication protocol used for the SC line of products.
I look forward to developer feedback, please post any questions you may have.

Josh, 12-28-2012. (months before working chips)

The same idiot that decided to start with his owns money and take community's money only if people decided to join me later.
What an idiot i'm.

>2 weeks is not 3 difficulty adjustments
From the 20th of december to the 15th (or 20th) of november, maybe even more than that.

>KnC is done shipping
As long as it's profitable to produce them, they will be produced. I don't see the hashrate increases to slow down anytime soon; we won't see exahashes next year, either.

>Honestly, if a 2 week delay wasnt factored in to your purchase decision, you should never have  bought
2 weeks is a good delay. The problem is that they will delay more than that (where are the pics of the PCBs?)

>I find it hard to crucify hashfast over what is so far a very very modest delay, certainly
They are laying to us and buying time. I don't see the future bright in any way.

(Email style quoting for short)

I'm still interested in how much they pay you. Also, what is the kind of skills required for your work? I guess it can't be really that easy.
Anyway, to answer your last post attempt, i'm not trying to raise anything as of now. I will start with my own funds, if the case has a base, others will join me.

Since that HF will miss their mid november deadline there will be all the time needed.

I did.
The first half of batch 1 didn't.

So, i'm not wrong.

You are.

I'm wrong because i keep replying to you.

And let's not forget that the firsts batch 1 customers never had that date on their ToS.
I keep forgetting about them.

I only deleted your posts from my thread. Any moderator can confirm that.
When will you stop lying?

This delay is 3 difficult adjustments in the best case (the mid november deadline will be heavily missed imo, we have yet to see pics of everything). This is why, with this delay, i call these machines worthless. (1*1.5^3 more hashrate at the beginning). Your extrapolations are different, that's all.
I'm sorry that you had to begin your posts with a suggestion to look at your post history. Please accept my apologies.

Again, you are making things up.

Customers are entitled to full refunds if they cancel their order, independently from the promised shipping date of a preorder. Full point.

Is there still someone other than you missing the point?

English is not my first language. Yet, i don't see the mistake i did in that phrase. Please, show me your deep knowledge.
I will reply by asking a better question.

Do federal consumer protection laws apply to HF?

You can troll how much you want on your points, but you won't win any fans - they already knows your pathetic techniques.

I'm sincerely interested in knowing how much your services sells for, icebreaker.
I really don't want to lose time arguing on every other lay you posted...

1) I personally think i do.
2) I have a copy of the terms; i was asking a copy of the terms of the people that agreed before me.
3) I think to be able to read and to do a critical evaluation of some text. I read contracts in English from when i was 15, after all. Thanks anyway for your trust.

Either they delivery before the 31 of Dec or they are bankrupted, there are not many other possibilities from their point of view...

They aren't referring to your order confirmation page, but to the order invoice they sent you. The one with one page of invoice and 5 pages of contracts.

This one could be a really costly assumption. I will assume that they where vague on purpose.

If they don't have the PCB designed and manufactured already (a thing that they don't have), that would have been a proof that they would have been lied to us since the beginning. They already promised us a pic of the PBC, but they have yet to show that.

Well, no offense intended, but the pile of my money they have is bigger, and i'm not sure i would want to use the discounts they are giving you if i where you.