This is quite a nice compilation. Thank you for doing this for the community. I actually already signed up for Swift but I struggle to sign up for Grantcoin (can’t go pass the verification stage.) One thing that I really liked about Swift was that there’s already a small market where one can sell and buy services via its currency. For example, I helped few people translate their names to Korean, and I got small amount in return. It’s quite interesting to see there are several projects trying to promote universal income, and I wonder whether they will be able to establish sustainable marketplace.
Yeah the verification for Manna/grantcoin can be a bit tricky depending on which country you're from. I had no issues signing up and getting verified with my Belgian phone, but have heard from other people that they were unable to. You can always try to manually verify your identity with them or alternatively try to use another phone (different provider) for verification. Haven't signed up for Swift myself, but it does seem very interesting indeed  Ah I see. I will try to sign up manually then. Actually, Swift is doing a tokensale right now. It's keep increasing (early bird advantage) but right now it's 1ETH=105,568 Swift token. But I am not sure whether that's good. We get 100 per day so that's like almost 3 years worth of getting it daily :/ I also have my doubts about Manna btw, they barely have any volume on the exchanges they've listed and they mention in their whitepaper that they're planning on building their own proprietary blockchain in 2018. Interesting what you say about Swift, I seriously doubt that the token will retain its value, if they're selling them that cheaply. It also doesn't make sense to keep the distribution so low. |
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Great initiative, can't believe I haven't come across this before. I don't usually look too much in the services section, so that's probably why  I'd like to become a sponsor, but I'm not completely sure for what amount of BTC yet. Can I just deposit to the escrow address, or how does it work? I'm planning to do a pretty decent donation (more than 0.01 btc), so you might be able to increase the rewards. Im pretty sure that you will just have to send to the donation address, then post a txid of how much you have deposited, and to which rules you would like for your donation (or if BTCforJoe can choose my himself). Joe is a really honest guy, and im pretty sure that he will appreciate the donation as much as every person on this forum  Yup you're right, I'm just a lazy bastard who should have read the entire thread. Getting a donation ready, will post txid soon Edit and done: Txid: 0690dcfa4db725551094bea2fa7661de950a73677b514a77da7f771615776a24 Donated 0.013 BTC but still waiting for confirmations  Amazing! Thank you very much for your generosity! Your donation will keep this challenge ongoing for another month! Did you have anything specific in mind, in regards to how you wanted your donation dispersed? I will update the sponsor roll when I return to a computer. Thanks again, @eternalgloom. This is very ungloomy of you Just do what you think is best, I would suggest you keep the campaign going as long as possible, so current rates are fine. You can do whatever you want |
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Payment received, thanks again! Yeah sounds good, avoid the hassle |
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This is quite a nice compilation. Thank you for doing this for the community. I actually already signed up for Swift but I struggle to sign up for Grantcoin (can’t go pass the verification stage.) One thing that I really liked about Swift was that there’s already a small market where one can sell and buy services via its currency. For example, I helped few people translate their names to Korean, and I got small amount in return. It’s quite interesting to see there are several projects trying to promote universal income, and I wonder whether they will be able to establish sustainable marketplace.
Yeah the verification for Manna/grantcoin can be a bit tricky depending on which country you're from. I had no issues signing up and getting verified with my Belgian phone, but have heard from other people that they were unable to. You can always try to manually verify your identity with them or alternatively try to use another phone (different provider) for verification. Haven't signed up for Swift myself, but it does seem very interesting indeed |
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I think you should add LBRY project to your list.
What is LBRY project?
LBRY is a sharing platform that uses blockchain technology to enable users to publish material and get paid for doing so. People using LBRY’s service can monetize their published material with its built-in payment system.
LBRY allow creators to upload their work to the LBRY network of hosts (like BitTorrent), and set a price per stream or download (like iTunes) or give it away for free (like YouTube without ads).
Now you can Sync your Youtube channel and earn LBC coin yearly.
For youtube channel have 1.000 Subscribers ----> 250 LBC/year
For youtube channel have 10.000 Subscribers ----> 1.000 LBC/year
For youtube channel have 100.000 Subscribers ----> 5.000 LBC/year
For youtube channel have 1.000.000 Subscribers ----> 15.000 LBC/year
I don't really think that LBRY has the goal of providing people with a basic income, so I'm not going to add it to this list. It's a really cool project though! ** I've updated the OP to include a definition of what basic income actually is. I've just gotten it from Wikipedia for now, I might make a custom one in the future. |
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Awaiting another signature change... Are you going to redesign it once Stellar has also been added, or can we expect a new one soon with just BCH added? That list is getting pretty long btw |
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Yup you're right, I'm just a lazy bastard who should have read the entire thread. Getting a donation ready, will post txid soon Edit and done: Txid: 0690dcfa4db725551094bea2fa7661de950a73677b514a77da7f771615776a24 Donated 0.013 BTC but still waiting for confirmations Thank you for donating into the campaign! I will sponsor one merit to the best user, of your choice on sunday (or monday, after counting votes). Please let me know by PM who you will choose, and which post and i will merit it with one merit. Thanks alot for supporting this campaign! Someone else can choose for me, I fully trust your judgment on that |
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Great initiative, can't believe I haven't come across this before. I don't usually look too much in the services section, so that's probably why I'd like to become a sponsor, but I'm not completely sure for what amount of BTC yet. Can I just deposit to the escrow address, or how does it work? I'm planning to do a pretty decent donation (more than 0.01 btc), so you might be able to increase the rewards. Im pretty sure that you will just have to send to the donation address, then post a txid of how much you have deposited, and to which rules you would like for your donation (or if BTCforJoe can choose my himself). Joe is a really honest guy, and im pretty sure that he will appreciate the donation as much as every person on this forum Yup you're right, I'm just a lazy bastard who should have read the entire thread. Getting a donation ready, will post txid soon Edit and done: Txid: 0690dcfa4db725551094bea2fa7661de950a73677b514a77da7f771615776a24 Donated 0.013 BTC but still waiting for confirmations |
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Great initiative, can't believe I haven't come across this before. I don't usually look too much in the services section, so that's probably why I'd like to become a sponsor, but I'm not completely sure yet how much I'm willing to donate. Can I just deposit to the escrow address, or how does it work? I'm planning to do a pretty decent donation (more than 0.01 btc), so you might be able to increase the rewards. |
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Over on Steemit everybody seems to be pretty wild about EOS, saying that it will probably replace Steemit in the future. Dapps are very interesting, I've been checking a few out lately and Everipedia really sparks my interest; You can check some of them out on this list btw: https://eosforum.org/t/eos-dapp-collection-13-listed-currently/309Really promising stuff, but I really wonder how it'll compare to Steemit's SMT's |
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Is that for all Muslim countries? I've always thought that those rules were very different across different countries and subcultures.
Perhaps someone who is Muslim could enlighten me about this?
In any case this is really great news, I'm sure there are many strict followers that could finally start buying cryptocurrency.
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I'll do my part in reporting some posts in Politics & Society, but it is pretty difficult to decide what gets reported and what not. Sticking with the obvious spam for now, but ideally, I'd also want to report some of the more 'gray-area' posts as well. Just one example of what I see as a gray-area: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3142740.0 (how do we move on from something?) To some people it might be easy, and it might be hard to others. How do we exactly move on from something? I guess this might be a legit question, but on the other hand it's clearly very low effort. Should be in off-topic perhaps or just removed? I don't know. Getting back to the task at hand I will put up my thoughts on this so that anyone interested may have a little more information to judge my ability to mod. I personally think this thread and replies are what Theymos is talking about when he says: Politics & Society is trash. People go there, look at a headline, and post a few sentences of their first gut reaction without reading any of the other replies.
There doesn't seem to be any actual discussion taking place. It has the lowest amount of effort possible to start a thread, OP is extremely vague "How do we move on from something". Its easy for some hard for others. Ok we got all the bases covered now! The OP has not been back to the thread, none of the other posters have returned to discuss posts etc. Only 2 or 3 posts were actual replies to other posts (which you might consider discussion) the rest were just quoting and or answering the OP over and over. I just don't see anyone getting anything out of a thread like that, expect post count. I don't see how removing a thread like that could be considered censoring free speech either as the OP doesn't have a point about "something" nor an opinion since he covered all his bases already. These kinds of threads are the spam problem IMO, so I would trash can that thread (or at least lock it not sure which is better). Leaving this type of thread open just allows more people to try to pad their post count and increase's the mods work load. Completely agree and just wanted to add that the reason why I'm asking is because it almost seems like 90% of the threads there are like this. Ofc this is the reason Theymos started this thread in the first place. Examples: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3315389.0 (President Trump Is More Smart Than Before - So What He Will Do Next ? ) --> Granted, this is actually on topic, but again very low effort. Though deleting this might be seen as censorship? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2976682.0 (Our Children Nowadays) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829336.0 (Quit Facebook) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3310363.0 (WHAT IS THE RATIONALE BEHIND AFRICAN LEADERS WANTING TO RULE FOREVER) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2374499.0 (why are people suffering from jealousy ?) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2554765.0 (TIME MACHINE!) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2877389.0 (What to do when life purpose is lost?) Might have been better to find out which topics are actually good, that list would have been shorter... Most of these topics are obviously from people who have a poor understanding of English, but where do you draw the line? If it's poor english + generally low effort, it should be removed. Low effort also means just copy pasting an article, even if they add the source. If there's no personal commentary in that case, should be removed. |
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Great idea! This will allow future employers to quickly scour the blockchain to find applicants they should refuse by default.
No seriously, this has to be one of the worst ideas I've ever seen. You want people to be forever reminded of how stupid they were?
I really hope we will all get to experience space travel in our lifetimes, that's probably the only way to get this ridiculous idea to go away.
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Yes people are reporting 9hs to 49hs i think on their phones.
Its not going to make you rich but it is essentially money for nothing - for some people earning low amounts it is expected to help.
But then there is also the argument if they are only earning $1 a day how do they have a new S8 running the mining app...
IMO i think the app is mainly to raise awareness of cryptocurrency & get more people involved in the crypto world - which is a great thing!
Apparently there has been over 100,000 downloads so far..
Some people have also mentioned if back in 2008 there was a free app to mine BTC that got you only 0.08 BTC a day, we would complain only 0.08!!
But fast forward to today and even with BTC down 0.08 is £500..
Not comparing ETN to BTC just making a point that in the future it could be worth alot more than today..
I think my 2 rigs (11 cards) mining electroneum direct will only get my $5 a day so cant expect a phone to mine a meaningful amount.
Money for nothing you say? Any idea how this affects the lifespan of your phone? You have to take that into account as well. If your phone breaks a couple of months sooner than it would have if you weren't mining with it, you're at a loss overall probably. |
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I've succesfully used Virwox to trade BTC with Paypal and vice versa, it takes a couple of days before your account gets verified by Virwox, but after that it's pretty smooth. Do note that their fees are pretty high, but that's always the case when you're trading BTC through PP. Another option is to find a trusted seller on Localbitcoins or Paxful, this is a bit more risky for the reasons you've mentioned (chargebacks), but should be no problem if you find someone trusted. More info on trading on Virwox: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/VirWoX |
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I've never thought that I should quit indefinitely, just because I've never really spent more than I was willing to lose.
But I have taken extended breaks from gambling, especially when I've last a couple of sessions in a row.
It's just good measure to take a break from time to time and by that I mean a couple of weeks or months even.
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I'll do my part in reporting some posts in Politics & Society, but it is pretty difficult to decide what gets reported and what not. Sticking with the obvious spam for now, but ideally, I'd also want to report some of the more 'gray-area' posts as well. Just one example of what I see as a gray-area: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3142740.0 (how do we move on from something?) To some people it might be easy, and it might be hard to others. How do we exactly move on from something? I guess this might be a legit question, but on the other hand it's clearly very low effort. Should be in off-topic perhaps or just removed? I don't know. |
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Thanks! I hadn't found that one yet and it does seem to fit the criteria to be added on this list. Most of the suggestions by other people don't really qualify as basic income, but this one definitely does. In this respect, however, although an equal distribution of wealth is ideal, it still undermines the role of money as an incentive that pushes people to work harder, thus getting more income. Perhaps in a utopian society where the population is infused with the notion of hard work as a measure to maximize human potential and a sense of place in civilization which justifies this effort towards growth, such an implementation would work. But given a society that is built on capitalist foundations and a craving for stratification, it is better off leaving mankind for to its own interests - a personal pursuit for meaning and purpose fueled by individual definitions of money. And just to put it out there, an equal society tends to be a boring one. Suppose I'd have mustered enough cash to go on a vacation to a luxurious resort: once I arrive, it's empty. No one at the reception waiting for guests, no janitors keeping the establishment clean and no lifeguards securing the swimming area. Why? They've all saved enough money to go out at the same exact day that I did, earning and saving the same amount a year too. In the world today, this seems to be unreal, but in a society built on equal pay, a tale like this could be a narrative of daily life - a repetitive cycle of working and saving - towards what will always be a dead end job. Just my two cents . I understand where you are coming from, all a UBI is supposed to do is really ensure that regardless of the career path you chose you shouldn't have to chose between eating/hydro/or a roof over your head. These situations are rampant through all industrialized nations. Many people put in 40 hours + and still can't afford a basic quality of life. Another added benefit to a UBI that has been lost in the last few decades is that it can become easier for a parent to chose to stay home and raise children until they are school aged. This issue in itself has many added benefits to the family unit and specifically the children. Thanks again OP for creating an interesting topic to discuss You've explained it perfectly! Basic Income isn't going to be a total replacement of a wage, more like an addition so everyone gets their basic needs met. **Updated the OP, added Bitnation |
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You're absolutely right, I'm locking my thread (in the services section) right away. Should have asked first, hope I don't get my overview thread locked because of my mistake.
Oh great, now I don't even get a thank you for being the first one to bring this to attention. Way to go, eternalgloom, my heart is officially broken. If only I had linked to it, then I would have received the thanks I so desperately yearn for. I suppose the laziness of my omission has lead to my downfall, Well-Played, Welsh. I concede this victory, but it shall not go unpunished! Don't worry Gator, I do appreciate it just a tad more when people include sources, but you still deserve something for mentioning it first. On a side note, starting that thread in the services section was one of my worst ideas ever, now I get spammed by people wanting to earn something for posting a reply. Dude wants me to pay him 2 dollars for every reply to my thread Hello I want to offer you quality comments for only 2$/contructive comment on your thread.
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I'm kinda amazed, I can honestly say I never even considered this as an application for blockchain technology. If these projects can show the benefit to their platform, there's a chance more progressive governments might adopt this. Either way in the end someone does have the burden of funding the basic income; but using a blockchain style ledger would greatly reduce the behind the scenes costs and potential errors involved in current social assistance programs. I'm going to have to do some more reading on each but it's nice to see several developments out there focusing on distribution of wealth and not just decentralization. Thanks for putting this out there I definitely see the benefit to these platforms especially when dealing with less privileged members of society. EDIT: I just did a quick search and turned up this project as well. http://www.grantcoin.org/Grantcoin is the same as manna, check out their recent posts on that website I'm personally really passionate about projects like these, because it's something that society will need sooner rather than later. This could be a great implementation of Basic income at relatively low cost. Thanks for the comment! In this respect, however, although an equal distribution of wealth is ideal, it still undermines the role of money as an incentive that pushes people to work harder, thus getting more income. Perhaps in a utopian society where the population is infused with the notion of hard work as a measure to maximize human potential and a sense of place in civilization which justifies this effort towards growth, such an implementation would work. But given a society that is built on capitalist foundations and a craving for stratification, it is better off leaving mankind for to its own interests - a personal pursuit for meaning and purpose fueled by individual definitions of money. And just to put it out there, an equal society tends to be a boring one. Suppose I'd have mustered enough cash to go on a vacation to a luxurious resort: once I arrive, it's empty. No one at the reception waiting for guests, no janitors keeping the establishment clean and no lifeguards securing the swimming area. Why? They've all saved enough money to go out at the same exact day that I did, earning and saving the same amount a year too. In the world today, this seems to be unreal, but in a society built on equal pay, a tale like this could be a narrative of daily life - a repetitive cycle of working and saving - towards what will always be a dead end job. Just my two cents . I don't see basic income as a means to make society fully equal though. And experiments have also shown that it does not make people work less, what it does do is give people the opportunity to look for jobs that they like to do. Basic income is fully compatible with capitalism and you will always have people who are willing to do the less interesting jobs as well, since basic income wouldn't be a full replacement for a wage. |
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