I think it will also be nice if we can follow Paxful's example of how they stepped in to assist people who struggled with Bitcoin, when Backpage.com stopped accepting payment via Visa and MasterCard.
The people in Venezuela needs someone to help them to protect their current wealth from losing value and one of the ways of doing this is to convert it into a currency like Bitcoin that can be used as a store of value.
lol this forum is so full of idiots who think and speak without understanding and considering the bigger socioeconomic environment. bitcoin will destroy their wealth even more because the socialist oriented infrastructure, workers will stop working, they will stop supplying their country men with elctricity or internet and simply create their own currency, the venzuelans will end up even poorer than before, if they abuse their socialist provided infrastrucutre for bitcoin mining. are you even aware about the amount of labour necessary to upkeep a countries infrastructure to have internet and electricity? -> you mine and support bitcoin in venezuella -> you will run out of infrastructure work in your community, no more socialism, no more electricity, no more internet. venezuelans should instantly switch to stone paper or metal money if they even consider using bitcoin and screw the socialist infrastructure workers. the socialist infrastructure worker in venezuella are not stupid programmed robots or money earning cattle, they are people like me and you, who think, trust and believe in a socialist vision, if they see, the infrastructure they were building being abused and wasted for mining bitcoin, like the russians did in early socialism (1918-1920) when they fed free socialist provided bread to their pigs, its over with socialismget ready for king maduro of venezuella regards Do not give a man a fish, rather teach him how to fish.  mining bitcoin isnt just fishing its also throwing with stones sitting in a house of glass. This forum is full of people, who cannot read and then make political statements that are not even applicable to this discussion. I never even mentioned mining in my reply, so I do not see where you got that from. ^idiot^ I do not care what their political views are, whatever they are doing now, is definitely not working. Some of the poorest countries in the world, have these socialist ideals. ^lol^ I am speaking to the people who can see that this is not working and who wants to protect their wealth. <Like many other countries did, when their stupid politics, destroyed their currencies> Examples : Zimbabwe / Greece / Cyprus their economy wont become better if you add an election via installed computation power. their economy will become worse, because then instead of using their infrastructure for development of values, they will waste it for mining "bitcoin" but there is no way to prevent that i suppose, they might be very selfish and idiotic and short term thinking, venezuelans are in that situation for a reason anyway. You are still stuck on the mining thing for some reason.  Here is an example of what one of those citizens are doing to help those people and it has nothing to do with mining : https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/91r3eg/ama_venezuela/You basically convert your local currency, in this case Bolivar to Bitcoin to protect it's value. You do not have to mine it, because there are enough out there already. <You just have to buy it> Bitcoin can then protect the value more than the hyperinflation that are killing the Bolivar at the moment. So I hope you understand what we are trying to say here. This was done during the economic crisis to protect other currencies too, like Greece and Zimbabwe, when they also battled with similar problems. yes the mining thing is important it makes the popularity of bitcoin in the developing world that suffer in their economy due to electricity shortages, absurd, they need currency that are being created through people solving their problems, not creating new ones or wasting ressources. they dont need bitcoin, they can simply create their own local currencies. They can create their own local currencies, you say? And how would those "local currencies" have value? No, they need something that holds value on the international markets, even if it's just a temporary solution. Oh come on, what you're saying doesn't even make sense. Bitcoin certainly isn't popular in the developing world because of the mining aspect, it's popular because it's way cheaper to transfer money, than Western Union for example. |
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Yesterday I watched a video about addiction on youtube: https://youtu.be/ao8L-0nSYzg. It was a real surprise to me that according to recent research people are addicted to drugs mainly because they can't bond well with people and are not able to live a satisfying life. The research shows that when an addicted person appears in a loving and caring environment, the addiction kind of disappears (even heroin addiction). I wonder what are your thoughts on this matter and whether you think you could say the same about gambling addiction. Gambling addiction is different from drug addiction in terms of reasoning from someone who is into it. Addiction in gambling is because people are dissatisfied with what they already won in a gambling, and tend to lose it all even if they know they are not winning the game. I think that gambling addiction is pretty similar to drug addiction, I mean it's the same chemicals that are released in the brain as when you do drugs. What you're describing is a symptom of gambling addiction, not the root cause. I'd say it's certainly possible that people turn to gambling and get addicted because they are dissatisfied with their life; yes, gambling is more than just the game itself because of the addiction. I think most people start gambling initially for fun and sometimes they get carried away. Yeah but the question is why they get carried away. I think loneliness could play a big part in that, because, why would you spend much time on gambling in the first place if you have good social relationships in your life? Now, I also think that in most of the cases, problem gamblers end up choosing for gambling rather than their partner/friends, but that might be because those relationships weren't good or stable to begin with. Just speculating here, might want to read some actual research about this. |
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/r/CryptoCurrency/ is such a weird place, you can't really expect to have any sort of serious discussion there.
When you look at that sub, it seems as though it's full of children. Some of the comments are just atrocious.
Did have some some pretty good discussions over on Steemit, they have quite a lot of active Discord groups that are tied to particular groups.
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Yesterday I watched a video about addiction on youtube: https://youtu.be/ao8L-0nSYzg. It was a real surprise to me that according to recent research people are addicted to drugs mainly because they can't bond well with people and are not able to live a satisfying life. The research shows that when an addicted person appears in a loving and caring environment, the addiction kind of disappears (even heroin addiction). I wonder what are your thoughts on this matter and whether you think you could say the same about gambling addiction. Gambling addiction is different from drug addiction in terms of reasoning from someone who is into it. Addiction in gambling is because people are dissatisfied with what they already won in a gambling, and tend to lose it all even if they know they are not winning the game. I think that gambling addiction is pretty similar to drug addiction, I mean it's the same chemicals that are released in the brain as when you do drugs. What you're describing is a symptom of gambling addiction, not the root cause. I'd say it's certainly possible that people turn to gambling and get addicted because they are dissatisfied with their life; |
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I'd only join a bounty campaign if they pay a significant share in something other than their own tokens.
It would just not be lucrative for me personally, if I had to rely on the ICO itself to bring in enough profit after it launches.
Thus I'm currently sticking to my existing campaign, at least I'm sure about what I'm getting.
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Why would anyone add this coin, while it's only traded on one single obscure exchange.
I'd at least wait until you get added to cryptopia.
I would be very surprised if casinos would add this coin at this point in time...
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@KingScorpio I think you meant extinguish, not distinguish Great job derailing the discussion, you keep talking about mining, while that has nothing to do with this topic. Reading some of your trust ratings makes it pretty clear what kind of a person you are... I just don't trust him User is offering to trade his merit in order to subvert the system. Not to be trusted. Now, on topic again, I've gotten into contact with some people from Venezuela and will start supporting them soon. I'm looking to get some people accounts on Steemit and offer them delegations of Steem Power, so they can basically secure some extra income that way. I've also reached out to the guy from the Nano thread (Hector) and offered to partner up with him. Will hopefully post some pictures soon, just so you can see what kind of impact one single person can have. |
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Saturday's Bitcoin lottery (round 286) draw results:~snip~ Congo! <<<<<<  Getting really creative with the congratulations, I see  Must be S0lidus behind the keyboard again... I'm sure it's a coincidence that you've put that there on the one that Accountant wins... Oh and today's Dogecoin lottery was won by thenerd314! congrats for first and second place Litecoin lottery will be drawn tomorrow and still some hours left to buy tickets which are 0.005 ltc each. 33 tickets bought so far. No weird links?!?! Dude, yeah I'm glad you haven't linked to some obscure pseudo-religious video this time... You're everyone's favorite's liability by now, can't wait till your next response  No but seriously <3 S0lidus, you're the reason I keep watching this thread! And because I get 10% extra |
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Just reading up, i dont know why people do reach out to the topic of fishing(just joking).  I do get your point brother and this is just a simple thought or idea on how to donate. Talking about other things will just derailed such discussion but well we do have our own ideas but lets just stick on whats being said on op. Im really being easily to be touched into these kind of stories where small amount of money is already equivalent for a month salary which as a donator you would really be happy that you help out somehow those people on such condition. Thanks for that reply, I was starting to think that everybody just had negative comments I'm not asking for money myself, just looking for a way to help these people, even if it's just a little bit. Pffffft didn't know it was this hard to just have a simple discussion... Thanks for the follow-up link! I'll check back and catch up with where you're at. Crypto/Bitcoin charity is alive and well, and if more people knew how to get in touch with these guys, they might get a bit more food to the needy. I wonder if they could do with a bit of exposure, but also worry if it'd get them into trouble (the exposure).
I'm also not sure why there was some mining talk, but yeah, let's get back on point.
Thanks to you as well for staying on topic |
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I'm not going to quote and respond to every single one of you, but let me say that you have the wrong idea on what I'm trying to achieve here. Look, those people need basic necessities in the first place, that can be achieved through simple donations, as I proposed. Now I see your arguments about teaching them how to earn their own money, and I fully agree with that as well! That's why I've reached out to some Venezuelans on Steemit, who are looking to set up an initiative there. Check the top comment on my most recent Steemit post: https://steemit.com/crypto/@daan/nano-community-donates-over-300-kg-660-lbs-of-food-to-venezuelansLeave your political talk out of this discussion please. Just for the record, I'm not even a socialist. @OP Actually, someone from my team has reached out to that redditor, I'll let you know if there's a response. So far nothing yet.
@KingScorpio I don't think OP is deluded with visions of saving humanity. Of course there's a bigger underlying issue to solve, and perhaps whatever is going on with Bitcoin in Venezuela may not solve problems, but it's undeniable that there are some roles that can be played (and already played) to alleviate some of the money problems there.
Some people want to change the world, that's fine. Others just want to lend a helping hand. If Bitcoin's the vehicle, then why not? At least they're trying.
those families need an income source not bitcoins, whats the use giving them some bitcoins? God damn it dude, due to hyperinflation, their regular income isn't worth anything. Those few Bitcoin donations could mean an entire month's worth of food, enough to give them time to work out another solution. |
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Saturday's Bitcoin lottery (round 286) draw results:| Place | Nickname | Tickets | Winning Ticket | Chance of winning | Reward in Bitcoin | | 1 | Accountant | 32 | 60 | 18.713% | 0.013680 BTC | | 2 | roadcrypto | 5 | 103 | 2.924% | 0.002565 BTC | | 3 | Danny407 | 3 | 140 | 1.754% | 0.000855 BTC |
Congo! <<<<<< Getting really creative with the congratulations, I see Must be S0lidus behind the keyboard again... I'm sure it's a coincidence that you've put that there on the one that Accountant wins... |
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the problems of the venezuelans cannot be sustainably solved with "bitcoin"
i even would say bitcoin and bitcoin mining in venezuela will further damage to social integrity and supply of urban infrastructure, since the socialist thinking workers in venezuela that work and get paid in venezuelan currency, and work almost for free will get a mental purpose crisis seeing their countrymen, abusing, their electricity generating infrastructure, like that.
with bitcoin mining the venezuelans, will damage the security of their infrastructure, they will then create a competetitive destructive society.
regards
I'm not talking about coming to a sustainable solution, there are better ways to come about that. I'm just looking to offer support to individual people, I mean if sending a couple of dollars can literally provide food for almost an entire month, why not? I hadn't even mentioned Bitcoin mining, so I don't know why you started about that? |
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I was wondering if there is a way to support families in Venezuela through Bitcoin. Perhaps you've heard about this person who asked for help in the Nano subreddit and eventually received enough Nano to buy 300KGS of food for his small community in Venezuela. This is the story, which I've also posted in Altcoin Discussion: Now my real question: Is there a way to come into contact with individual people of families in Venezuela and support them through micro crypto donations? It would be pretty amazing if there was a platform that made something like this possible. I know this sort of thing could be abused, but it could be possible with a decent verification process and personal contact between donor and person in need. When you read that story on the Nano subreddit, the guy from Venezuela mentions that 0.5 Nano (around 1.4 USD at time of writing) is almost an entire month's salary! If I could possibly help people that much, with just donating a few dollars worth of crypto, count me in! Wasn't sure whether to post this in Serious Discussion or here, can always move the topic when needed. |
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Cryptocurrency is affecting our lives in different ways.
Especially in a country like venezuela, where inflation is high, crypto-currencies are more useful when the legal tender is worthless.
Well, there it has a measurable impact, since people are literally surviving off of crypto, as shown in those 2 links. Looks like Nano has also made an official project supporting Venezuelans, they have a pretty achievable goal of raising 1700 dollars. https://nanocenter.org/projects/venezuelaThere are also talks in the Nano subreddit of 'adopting' families in Venezuela, to help pay for food etc. Mind you that one or two dollars worth of cryptocurrency, could mean a week's worth of food for these families. https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/90zfm0/directly_link_families_in_venezuela_with/ |
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Really well written article, got my interest right till the end. What I don't understand is that he bets big parts of his bankroll in single bets. I mean he started with 500 dollars the first time and places more than 50 dollars on his first bet, playing blackjack. set out 2 $25 spots and a $1 dealer bet on each hand, as well as my one and only attempt at the lucky ladies bonus which was a $5 chip and a $1 dealer bet on the bonus spot. Consider it my degenerate ritual when it comes to playing blackjack. No wonder he's always going back to the ATM, when he hardly has any play time due to his large bet sizes. |
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You can start by checking the volume and sell orders on different exchanges, it's certainly possible to buy millions of $ worth in Bitcoin on one exchange. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#marketsBitfinex has a volume of 38k BTC per day, so they can definitely handle the amounts you're talking about. |
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Can you post some more examples? I've never seen any serious projects offer rewards like that. The one you've shown is the first one I've ever seen do that.
I agree with the people above this reply, that something like that looks like a scam or sketchy at best.
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Lol, they have a long long way to go before they could be called a 'Binance Killer'.
I'm happy that we're now seeing more and more competition between exchanges, there's nothing wrong with new ones popping up left and right.
I hope it weeds out the sketchy ones.
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Check it out yourself in the Service sections. Plenty of managers on this forum offering their services, you can try showing them your proposal - try some of the big ones (trusted members, staff/mods) or smaller ones (no particular trust level but have portfolios).
I know the very biggest ones can charge in percentage of tokens/ICO raised, but in general they all prefer to have fixed amounts PLUS percentage.
Pay for peanuts, you get peanuts. Like every service.
I like peanuts!!! But you are correct if you are working with peanut factory expect that your payment will somewhat the same to peanut butter, peanut brittle and some peanut products, that is how ICO works. If you're only interested in making peanut butter, and there's nothing wrong with that at all, of course, then of course paying for peanuts is acceptable but really if it's $10 an hour for community management, that's only $200 a week for 20 hours. You're better off doing that on your own, since it's just peanut butter. Save the $200 and get it done nicely. If you can't afford to manage a community well, then you need volunteers. Volunteers tend to come with belief. So maybe build a project worth believing in. That's how it is in real life too. Using volunteers isn't a good option, you just can't expect the same standards from them as you would of someone who is getting paid. Plus it also comes across badly if people know that you don't have enough funds for hiring proper community managers. Doing it yourself is also an equally bad idea, you want to spend your own time with things that are directly tied to your ICO, not answering questions all day. |
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