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2241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 09, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
Barabbass from what i have read of your postings, You are by far the biggest bitch on this thread period.  If your not bitching your name calling. Kinda like them bully's in the playground, every one ultimately hates them, but for the sake of compassion that most humans possess, their tolerated.

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem... as you do one with illiteracy equally obvious (a posessive is not a verb, get it?) You also, as a newbie, have made a very poor choice of responding in an aggressive manner... when no response -much less from you- is called for.

Or to put it in termas that you can easily undrrstand: you are fishing for unnecessary trouble. Not from me though because from this moment on I will simply ignore your inane posts.
2242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 09, 2014, 07:43:28 PM
Quick chat with Pat...somethings where cleared up Cool

[12:19] <MAD945> we are only in cluster #2
[12:19] <LibertyNow> I thought so, too
[12:19] <MAD945> will this change?
[12:19] <LibertyNow> also, that forum entry is dated July 26
[12:19] <MAD945> Pat can you clear this up for us please
[12:19] <@pnosker> MAD945: cluster 2 is just the computer it's on
[12:19] <MAD945> ahhh
[12:19] <LibertyNow> oh
<MAD945> so are we still a core coin
[12:20] <@pnosker> yes
[12:20] <MAD945> with bitcoin, litecoin, darkcoin and btcdrk?
[12:20] <MAD945> wheres boolberry?
[12:21] <@pnosker> some of them will just be on MGW
[12:21] <@pnosker> because MGW is just the decentralized system for trades
[12:22] <LibertyNow> MAD, do you know the answer to my question?  See the linke that Patrick posted here:
[12:22] <LibertyNow> https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/
[12:22] <MAD945> ahhh but do we want to run into another Bittrex adding scam coins
[12:22] <LibertyNow> why is it dated July 26?
[12:22] <MAD945> Error on the forum?
[12:22] <@pnosker> I just PMed you...
[12:22] <@pnosker> when you asked me that question
[12:22] <LibertyNow> oh, sorry
[12:23] <MAD945> doesn't make much sense...but i've seen it happen before
[12:23] <@pnosker> It's not an error. We have been discussing with James since before then
[12:23] <MAD945> thanks again for answering our queries Pat...I know it can be trying at times
[12:23] <@pnosker> They built a MGW test client
[12:23] <@pnosker> in July
[12:23] <@pnosker> before they/we announced
[12:23] == Wurlitze_ [~Wurlitzer@p5B1234B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit []
[12:23] <@pnosker> some people figured out that he was Dev4 before we announced it
[12:23] <MAD945> Shit! Nice....
[12:24] <@pnosker> Part of the reason we've been so quiet
[12:24] <@pnosker> is because we agreed to not discuss
[12:24] <@pnosker> but have been working on this stuff
[12:24] <@pnosker> meanwhile barabbas/altcoinuk bitch and complain about us
[12:24] <@pnosker> but we can't discuss
[12:24] <@pnosker> until James posted
[12:24] <MAD945> must be frustrating Pat and for Doug
[12:25] <@pnosker> And David

My "bitching and complaining" has nothing to do and nothing in common with altcoinUK's, first; second,  I have NOT ONCE said a single thing or urge you in any way rrgarding dev#4 during the whole period of negotiations. On the contrary I have insisted on you both being totally silent about it until and when an agreement was reached.
2243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 09, 2014, 07:27:48 PM
@nosker and @pike:

You guys made conflicting statements yesterday about the escrowed vericoin "donated" by the community.

No need, nosker, to add confusion: no need for even mentioning % since James will not be taking anything from the amount donated REGARDLESS if the initial thesholds are reached or not.

The clarifications needed are:

1 - will the coins be returned to the "donors" since there's no longer a requirement for the reserve to exist ir not.
2 - assuming they will not be returned, the only questions are: pike's "management" of those funds include staking them? Trading?or none of the above?

I believe "donors" and potential "donors" will be interested in the clarifications and, above all, that you both, along with the community, are on the same page. As of the last posts on the matter, you are not.

The reserve is going to still serve the initial purpose that James requested, however, we will be managing it according to the community demands instead of James. The escrow will still ensure that 10k satoshi will be sent for each VRC as per the initial terms once the VRC price breaks 50k satoshi. The rest of the stash is to be used for projects that the community will vote on, as per the initial fundraising criteria. We are still aiming for 10% of VRC to be in this fund and hope donations continue to come in.

The coins will not be staked, for now, as donations in are difficult to track once coins are re-aged. They will not be used for anything until the community decides on a fate for them.

Yes we are in full agreement about this.

That being the case the being on the same page is achieved and everyone is quite clear now.

But if you allow me I believe it is a hasty and not very well thought out decision. For instance, you can, right now, sell those 500k+ vrc return 10k sat to each donor and retain the profit (40%) for future projects with no obligations or strings attached. There are many other options that will be much more beneficial to the community that just doing nothing with it. Staking in such amounts is significant and not benefitting at all from it is quite an unnecessary waste... among those many options i would suggest to create a stabilization fund (a la naut) thst would be instrumental in achieving what should be a target gosl for vrc: reduce volatility to dupport "mass" adoption. There are othrrs... like i said, many and all much more beneficial than just putting those funds undrr the mattress. Give it an additional thought or two if you can.

One other thing: getting to above 50k sat, the noskrr presents as a foregone conclusion, is a very tall order. It may not get thrre -let alone to 100k- and much lesd in the more or less agreen upon (clarification on this is also needed) term of thr next 6 months or first week of March 2015...
2244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 09, 2014, 06:35:43 PM
With the help of James, the other superNET developers, and the MGW team, we are implementing superNET into VeriCoin. As you can see, we're on cluster #2 (currently in testing): https://nxtforum.org/umgwc/umgw-clusters-distribution-and-supported-coins/

We are finishing up our new flat QT wallet as well as working on an alternate, HTML 5 wallet that is based upon NXT code for a very gorgeous, highly interactive, and feature-filled implementation of Blockchain 2.0 features on top of VRC (including decentralized exchange, aliasing, messaging, etc.) which will really take VeriCoin to the next level.

James, of course, is working on his project for VRC and we are very excited about it and will share details when the time is right. VeriCoin is geared to grow and there's not much that can hold us back now. The community is showing strength, the coin is perhaps stronger than ever with high staking, and the future projects are really poised to take VeriCoin both to the masses and keep VeriCoin competitive with the most advanced coin for the future by leveraging the superNET community.

The HTML 5 wallet will make VeriCoin as easy to use as a website. Simple, sleek, and fast. The three things most important things for adoption.

Nice update. James coming into vericoin, a game changer. You guys recognizing it and enthusiastically supporting him, a very positive sign. NOW this project has a future worth investing in. Congrats to the community.
2245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 09, 2014, 06:27:22 PM
@nosker and @pike:

You guys made conflicting statements yesterday about the escrowed vericoin "donated" by the community.

No need, nosker, to add confusion: no need for even mentioning % since James will not be taking anything from the amount donated REGARDLESS if the initial thesholds are reached or not.

The clarifications needed are:

1 - will the coins be returned to the "donors" since there's no longer a requirement for the reserve to exist ir not.
2 - assuming they will not be returned, the only questions are: pike's "management" of those funds include staking them? Trading?or none of the above?

I believe "donors" and potential "donors" will be interested in the clarifications and, above all, that you both, along with the community, are on the same page. As of the last posts on the matter, you are not.
2246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 08, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
Obviously any pr about supernet has to come from and through James and, at this point would be quite premature. The sell off was inevitable aftrr such hefty gains. Daytraders lock gains. Always.

I should know.
2247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 08, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
Is there something more official and sure? I mean, VRC will be an important part of SuperNET?
I see too much speculation...

Seems like the rules change every day with the super net and the escrow.   For me it's a bunch of non sense till their a statement with guidelines.  As you see the price is agreeing with me.  It was a mad rush to get all these coins now what??

Now vericoin continues with its roadmap while James bring new features to the code to make it worthy of Supernet in the next few months... he said it very clearly, no speculation. The funds donated are not required any longer by him and could be either returned to the donors or held in escrow for future developments.
2248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 08, 2014, 06:29:30 PM
@ altcoinUK - you are 80% wrong.
@buy4crypto - you are 95% wrong and the 5% you are right is only because you have no skin in the game which makes it moot.

James is by leaps and bounds the best thing that ever happened to Vericoin. Like any other coin, no exceptions, will be sold off after 40-90% gains. What's left though is still extraordinarily positive and a future to look forward to.

When i get to my laptop i will reflect on these points and others.

Veri interesting few months ahead, I am quite excited.
2249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 08, 2014, 03:44:26 PM
I'd like to propose an HONOR ROLL in which all donors of the weekend and their contributions so far are listed. They ARE Vericoin.
2250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 08, 2014, 07:38:36 AM
mctaino is wizrig.
2251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 07, 2014, 07:48:50 AM
041.msg8709538#msg8709538 date=1410067290]
Where is BarbASS at??   Roll Eyes
[/quote]

I am here watching in pure delight the rffects of this deal that,  I remind you and everyone, I WAS THE FIRST IN THIS FORUM TO FULLY SUPPORT.

The recent events, as you must know, fully confirm everything I have been posting here for months...
2252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 07:58:00 AM
Like I said James,  this community, unfottunately, is not reafy for this deal. Neither,  more importantly, are the devs. So it won't happen.

For the  record, I am all for this deal as I was the moment it was proposed...

You're so silly. When drkman first proposed this deal, you suggested that he have himself committed to an institution. Cheesy

He wouldn't become the 3rd largest holder unless he pushed us all the way to .001 and that would be a 10X from here so I'd say he would deserve it.

The real sad thing -but still very funny- is that you actually believe just one individual would be able, with his coding, to "push us" above .001.

I would recommend a nice, secluded institution but I'm afraid you're probably beyond that even at this point...

PROJECT JUGGERNAUT[...]
Ok, let me get this straight, before I get sick of laughing on the floor in hysterics for 10 minutes, unable to stop:

This "Juggernaut" guy is our "secret weapon", right? Since it is obvious by now that we have three stooges as devs that cannot code their way out of a paperbag, you propose to hire (code name: Juggernaut), that is so good, already has such great technologies ready to go and has such a prestige in the crypto world that he cannot get arrested (he cannot find a job) and cannot launch his own crypto currency? Is that it?

You cannot be serious!



All of that being true -and i still dont believe that James, even if he was to be supported fully, which he is not going to-, I still believe vrc will not get even remotely close to 0.001. Not in a year. Not ever.

Now that said, that vrry day and only minutes arter those I posted my FULL SUPPOTT to the dev4 project.

You should know by now that I nevrr ever lie. Drkman, this is a dpecific answer. Like i told you in the pm i will honor as i slways do my word.  Before monday you'll see everything I tlld you has vome to fruition. In spades.
2253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 07:18:40 AM
barrabas is confusing to me
sometimes he is talking sense
sometimes it is nonsense
does barrabas want to help the VRC
does barrabas want to hurt the VRC
the answer to this riddle is the key

the majority of this thread belongs to barrabas
if barrabas wants to help the VRC then VRC has hope
if barrabas doesnt want to help the barrabas then VRC needs to do something about barrabas to have hope

I dont know if barrabas is with or against VRC

You give me waaaay too much gravitas, totally undeserved and unrealistic. But, like I have stated many times already since it was first proposed, I am ALL for the deal... which, contrary to what you think is in fact the opposite of what you believe my vote will bring, as you are about to see by yourself.

look at https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_bbr on the ALL timescale
and take a guess when I announced that it was possible BBR would be added to SuperNET

James, once more, im on board with your deal since it wss first proposed. Now, more so. But, I'm afraid, it will not happen for reasons you have expressed yourself already. As you can see, Doug here talks and talks anf talks ...but says nothing, as usual. ALL he and the other 2 have to say is "I support this deal and I am putting 100k vericoin myself for it". It is my understanding Nosker has already agreed to front that amount himself... maybe he will cortoborate? That's all it would take, nothing more. Not whatever I may say.
Actually, they have honored my request for secrecy
this shows integrity and honor
they are slow, but this comes from not wanting to make a mistake and I doubt they have any experience in deals like this as I think I am the only one who has ever done anything like this before and it was not publicized

so now it is in the open, we can create some sort of signup and if you can do some self-analysis to figure out what the personal issue against VRC is, then VRC community will be able to be healed

you are making some sense and this is the danger. If you are a loon, everybody can safely ignore you, but a lot of what you say makes some sense, then you say some crazy stuff.
very confusing and no new whale investor will invest.

Now I have a few dozen whales that I have helped them make several millions USD over the previous months. If I say VRC is a good long term HODL, you will see some whales come in, but these are serious investors and they are not going to put more than 1 BTC in with you constantly doing what you do.
The key to coin value is long term HODL and 10 to 100 BTC accumulations by some few dozen whales.
this is not possible until we fix the "barrabas problem"


Once again James you give me way too much gravitas totslly undeserved. And once again you choose to ser conspiracy yheoried where there are none. You dhould perhas visit my wall of shame and wall of honor before dpeculating further. Perhaps that way you would have a muvh better picture... it is real simple: as it is, vrc has no technical value, no direction and no real achievable targets. These are facts, not personal inventions. It has also a solid community that doesnt post here and a auickly diappesring and marketable "good guys" image. Thas is all. I am a very modedt investor in vrc like i sm in other coins. And my only master is truth.

Do with it as you please or deem necessary.

Sorry for typos, im on phone and its a pain to write...
2254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 06:57:34 AM
barrabas is confusing to me
sometimes he is talking sense
sometimes it is nonsense
does barrabas want to help the VRC
does barrabas want to hurt the VRC
the answer to this riddle is the key
the majority of this thread belongs to barrabas
if barrabas wants to help the VRC then VRC has hope
if barrabas doesnt want to help the barrabas then VRC needs to do something about barrabas to have hope

I dont know if barrabas is with or against VRC

You give me waaaay too much gravitas, totally undeserved and unrealistic. But, like I have stated many times already since it was first proposed, I am ALL for the deal... which, contrary to what you think is in fact the opposite of what you believe my vote will bring, as you are about to see by yourself.
look at https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_bbr on the ALL timescale
and take a guess when I announced that it was possible BBR would be added to SuperNET

James, once more, im on board with your deal since it wss first proposed. Now, more so. But, I'm afraid, it will not happen for reasons you have expressed yourself already. As you can see, Doug here talks and talks anf talks ...but says nothing, as usual. ALL he and the other 2 have to say is "I support this deal and I am putting 100k vericoin myself for it". It is my understanding Nosker has already agreed to front that amount himself... maybe he will cortoborate? That's all it would take, nothing more. Not whatever I may say.
2255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 06:39:48 AM
barrabas is confusing to me
sometimes he is talking sense
sometimes it is nonsense
does barrabas want to help the VRC
does barrabas want to hurt the VRC
the answer to this riddle is the key
the majority of this thread belongs to barrabas
if barrabas wants to help the VRC then VRC has hope
if barrabas doesnt want to help the barrabas then VRC needs to do something about barrabas to have hope

I dont know if barrabas is with or against VRC

You give me waaaay too much gravitas, totally undeserved and unrealistic. But, like I have stated many times already since it was first proposed, I am ALL for the deal... which, contrary to what you think is in fact the opposite of what you believe my vote will bring, as you are about to see by yourself.
2256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 06:35:11 AM
The Official Community Forums are almost ready:

https://www.vericoinforums.com/

These new forums belong to the community and multiple community members have full root access to the web host and forum software. As one of the aforementioned community members, you have my word that I will not go completely freakin' mental and try to hold the forums for ransom. Smiley

Of course not. No one with an iota of critical thinking will ever go to that chorus of cheerleaders, nest.

But thrre will be still a place that everyonr that really want to find out the truth and be free to express opinions, troll or whaterver, with total freedom, can and will visit instead.  The new censored forum will have the same rffect that in the case of blsckcoin: a slow elephant walk towards final resting place.

People who are capable of expressing their opinions without being derogatory and insulting towards others will be encouraged to do so in the new forums, regardless of whether or not they support the coin. If a user speaks out against VeriCoin on the Official Forums and ends up having his post deleted, it will not be because of the fact that he spoke out against the coin; it will likely be because he was unable to express his thoughts without attacking someone in the process. Likewise, a community member who supports the coin but insults and attacks those who don't will end up getting smacked with the ban hammer just as quickly.

Conduct yourself like a responsible and respectable adult on the Official Forums and you may find yourself surprised at what you're able to say without triggering a warning.

That is always the pretense... and never, ever,, the truth. But don't worry you won't ever have the power to warn me, so go ahead and have your little deserted playground where no one will evrr have anything remotely truthful to say or read. And lets see how wonderful yhat is going to be for the project... i mysekf have seem the movie before and know very well how it ends.

Blatant speculation and outright insulting; classic Barabbas. Smiley

What is speculation? Learn your history: not a single case of censorship, not one in history has ended well or in the benefit of thr people. Not one. That is history, proven facts. The opposite of speculation... and, of course, that is in fact BARABBAS' TRADE MARK, yes. The "outright insulting" part is your personal and gratuituous contribution, as usual.

But there's something far more significant on the table by James... and i am sfraid i'm going to speculate now, i believe this community simply isnt ready, nor will ever, for the otherwise best deal it will ever be offered... among other things -sorry James- because, as ststed, there' s actually NO DEAL. What is the time-term for those 5x and 10x? Will the devs do what you say or, as you imply, it will be up to them to mess up the works at their own will? Finally, what happens to the escrowed "donations" when none of the 5x or 10x is met? Way too complicated... and that is not even saying anything about 3 million coins in your posession if indeed -dream a little dream- the 10x threshold is achieved. WHAT CAN YOU DO THEN? Can you dump them and bring the market down to pennies again?

More importantly James, exactly how do you plan on getting to those thresholds? You do know vericoin is just a fork, a copy/paste job for the most part, don't you?
I dont dump coins
I HODL long term
by long term I mean years

Like I said James,  this community, unfottunately, is not reafy for this deal. Neither,  more importantly, are the devs. So it won't happen.

For the  record, I am all for this deal as I was the moment it was proposed...
2257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 06:16:27 AM
The Official Community Forums are almost ready:

https://www.vericoinforums.com/

These new forums belong to the community and multiple community members have full root access to the web host and forum software. As one of the aforementioned community members, you have my word that I will not go completely freakin' mental and try to hold the forums for ransom. Smiley

Of course not. No one with an iota of critical thinking will ever go to that chorus of cheerleaders, nest.

But thrre will be still a place that everyonr that really want to find out the truth and be free to express opinions, troll or whaterver, with total freedom, can and will visit instead.  The new censored forum will have the same rffect that in the case of blsckcoin: a slow elephant walk towards final resting place.

People who are capable of expressing their opinions without being derogatory and insulting towards others will be encouraged to do so in the new forums, regardless of whether or not they support the coin. If a user speaks out against VeriCoin on the Official Forums and ends up having his post deleted, it will not be because of the fact that he spoke out against the coin; it will likely be because he was unable to express his thoughts without attacking someone in the process. Likewise, a community member who supports the coin but insults and attacks those who don't will end up getting smacked with the ban hammer just as quickly.

Conduct yourself like a responsible and respectable adult on the Official Forums and you may find yourself surprised at what you're able to say without triggering a warning.

That is always the pretense... and never, ever,, the truth. But don't worry you won't ever have the power to warn me, so go ahead and have your little deserted playground where no one will evrr have anything remotely truthful to say or read. And lets see how wonderful yhat is going to be for the project... i mysekf have seem the movie before and know very well how it ends.

Blatant speculation and outright insulting; classic Barabbas. Smiley

What is speculation? Learn your history: not a single case of censorship, not one in history has ended well or in the benefit of thr people. Not one. That is history, proven facts. The opposite of speculation... and, of course, that is in fact BARABBAS' TRADE MARK, yes. The "outright insulting" part is your personal and gratuituous contribution, as usual.

But there's something far more significant on the table by James... and i am sfraid i'm going to speculate now, i believe this community simply isnt ready, nor will ever, for the otherwise best deal it will ever be offered... among other things -sorry James- because, as ststed, there' s actually NO DEAL. What is the time-term for those 5x and 10x? Will the devs do what you say or, as you imply, it will be up to them to mess up the works at their own will? Finally, what happens to the escrowed "donations" when none of the 5x or 10x is met? Way too complicated... and that is not even saying anything about 3 million coins in your posession if indeed -dream a little dream- the 10x threshold is achieved. WHAT CAN YOU DO THEN? Can you dump them and bring the market down to pennies again?

More importantly James, exactly how do you plan on getting to those thresholds? You do know vericoin is just a fork, a copy/paste job for the most part, don't you?
2258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 05:42:42 AM
The Official Community Forums are almost ready:

https://www.vericoinforums.com/

These new forums belong to the community and multiple community members have full root access to the web host and forum software. As one of the aforementioned community members, you have my word that I will not go completely freakin' mental and try to hold the forums for ransom. Smiley

Of course not. No one with an iota of critical thinking will ever go to that chorus of cheerleaders, nest.

But thrre will be still a place that everyonr that really want to find out the truth and be free to express opinions, troll or whaterver, with total freedom, can and will visit instead.  The new censored forum will have the same rffect that in the case of blsckcoin: a slow elephant walk towards final resting place.

People who are capable of expressing their opinions without being derogatory and insulting towards others will be encouraged to do so in the new forums, regardless of whether or not they support the coin. If a user speaks out against VeriCoin on the Official Forums and ends up having his post deleted, it will not be because of the fact that he spoke out against the coin; it will likely be because he was unable to express his thoughts without attacking someone in the process. Likewise, a community member who supports the coin but insults and attacks those who don't will end up getting smacked with the ban hammer just as quickly.

Conduct yourself like a responsible and respectable adult on the Official Forums and you may find yourself surprised at what you're able to say without triggering a warning.

That is always the pretense... and never, ever,, the truth. But don't worry you won't ever have the power to warn me, so go ahead and have your little deserted playground where no one will evrr have anything remotely truthful to say or read. And lets see how wonderful yhat is going to be for the project... i mysekf have seem the movie before and know very well how it ends.
2259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 05:25:31 AM
as for my clothing brand website, it will not have the vrc logo/banner until this thread is closed for those specific reasons.. i have no problem with people arguing/debating but when ppl like altcoinUK literally misinform and spreads rumours to create hate or be malicious ,and looks to have been hijacked by people who just want to kill vericoin, is simply undoable to lead ppl from my site to here... i also am a manufacturer for private labels (we manufacture jeans etc for brands that don't have the knowledge of making them) so my "brand" is just a branch from my actual company.

call me a cheerleader call me a bag holder, that i have no problem with but you bashing the creators of this coin cause they don't talk to you on the phone with updates every 3 days to keep your life savings growing or calling people who told u to "eat a dick" homophobes (LOL) is rather pathetic and low and looks to me like your grasping at anything u can to justify your actions...

don't ask me to post my website and or my personal info again cause it won't happen until this thread is closed. i have no problem letting my customers see all this childish fighting ,but the bashing of the creators of vericoin and false accusations and misinformation of theft and or plans on scamming people through irc is something i will NOT condone...

I'm not trying to start a fight with you here but to say you won't post Vericoin on your website until this forum is closed down is stupid threat. Vericoin is a software to exchange money, like any other digital currency. You won't associate your company with this software because there is a thread somewhere out there on the internet where people post: good, bad, funny, stupid things about the product. Really? So I'm assuming you also don't accept Paypal because I could link you to 100 websites where people say FAR worse things about Paypal than Vericoin. You also probably don't accept Visa or American Express - because again... can't have a single website out there where people are talking shit about the payment processor.

You do realize just because you post a banner on your website that says "Vericoin Accepted Here" doesn't mean people will directly go to this forum and read all the posts. I have on my site "Proud supporter of Vericoin community" underneath a vericoin accepted here banner and it hyperlinks to vericoin.info.

Also last point - you still have so few customers that even would use bitcoin, nevertheless vericoin - none if it would even really matter at this time.
no no..no need for fighting i won't fight with you, your comments are legit... again though your comparing companies that are already trusted (paypal,visa etc) vericoin isn't even close to that point so for my brand to represent a crypto currency like vericoin ,yes this thread is a problem (for me at least)

And please ...this is no threat I'm simply stating my thoughts on having the "vericoin banner" on my site... I'm sure not many ppl care rather i do or don't, so it would be a meaningless threat.. these are my legitimate concerns before associating my brand with vericoin...simple as that.

You don't have to agree with the way i make business decisions.  
just would also like to add.. the decision to wait to have the vericoin banner on our site was my brothers ,who knows just the basics of how crypto currencies work, so this is a persons reaction from outside the crypto world and strictly a merchant... so i saw first hand how this thread does effect merchants decisions, who want to reach a different market (crypto enthusiasts)

Please ignore altcoinUK's troll post above mine. I can completely understand where the decision would come in NOT putting a vericoin banner on your website. Like I said in my post above I don't really think it would matter 1 way or another really. Even having a "bitcoin accepted here" sign and accepting bitcoin really doesn't do much for any website.

If things change in the future there is nothing wrong with adding the banner later. If you break it all down right now 75% of all Vericoin are held in the top 100 wallets. So that's telling me less than 100 people in the entire world even have enough Vericoin to spend, plus it's not like anyone holding Vericoin are really trying to spend it right now.

So yeah - I mean I get what you're saying where Vericoin != Paypal but at the same time you can't hide from certain opinions certain people have on an idea/topic. It's the way freedom of speech works.

Yep: less than 100. Including the devs... a bit of reflection with a critical mind will give anyone all the answers needed with respect to the (non existent) future of this project. It's a very strong and generous community. With a dozen deranged yahoos and three totally incompetent devs... Not nearly enough to create a future. Not even enough to keep the price at these levels for much longer. A slow and veri painful path ahead indeed.
2260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: September 06, 2014, 05:05:21 AM
What the fuck happen to veritalk.info, its   the end we must abbandon theship!!!!

Did not seem to be as an official forum as I had once believed, it has been for sale since July https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=685348.0

Reddit and Twitter and IRC currently only places to go for Vericoin discussion.

The Official Community Forums are almost ready:

https://www.vericoinforums.com/

These new forums belong to the community and multiple community members have full root access to the web host and forum software. As one of the aforementioned community members, you have my word that I will not go completely freakin' mental and try to hold the forums for ransom. Smiley

Of course not. No one with an iota of critical thinking will ever go to that chorus of cheerleaders, nest.

But thrre will be still a place that everyonr that really want to find out the truth and be free to express opinions, troll or whaterver, with total freedom, can and will visit instead.  The new censored forum will have the same rffect that in the case of blsckcoin: a slow elephant walk towards final resting place.

And Scott, there's no turning of leaves. I have always helped those seeking help genuinely... as opposed to everyone rlse on this thread that are quick with the venom but nevrr, ever at thr ready to help anyone, new or not. It's past time yhat the vipers go to their natural nest and let thr free pastures to those deserving of them.
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