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2461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 30, 2023, 08:38:55 PM
I'm trying to understand how individuals who bet on Manchester City and Manchester United to win in their respective matches must have felt about the gravity of the match defeat they suffered today against their opponents. The defeats of Manchester City to Wolves and Manchester United to Crystal Palace at home, respectively, are both terrible.
Many gamblers would lose their match wager today because Manchester City lost to Wolves. I think many people, like me, would have backed Manchester City to win but would now feel let down by the outcome.

I think these are two different situations. In the case of City, this unfortunate situation rarely happens, but it is bound to happen - no one can score 100% of points, and it should be noted that even the defeat left City in first place. In the case of United, defeat, even at home, is the norm. What do you expect from a team that had 3 wins and 3 losses before this game, considering the fact that the team is showing a weak game and the coach is a natural asshole? City's result ruined many multi-bets, but United's result probably pleased many people - it is profitable to bet against them.
2462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 30, 2023, 06:20:42 PM
the league is getting much more competitive this season, looking at the table:



looking at the small difference in points between the big teams, it shows that the team that loses points in games against small teams, will then lose the chance to become champion this season, Al - Nassr has an easy game against Abha which is a team that in the last 5 games has not managed to achieve good results, and in 5 games they have only managed to win 1 game and will come to the game against Al - Nassr coming from 3 consecutive defeats, so I see Al - Nassr winning this game with some ease . but before that game Al - Nassr will have a game in the AFC champions league, so if they have an important player getting injured then it could affect a lot in the next game in the Saudi Arabian league

AI - Hilal will also have a very easy game, they will play against an opponent that in the last 5 games they have only won once and will also come into this game with 2 consecutive defeats and so I also hope to see Al - Hilal coming out with an easy victory in this game. now Al - ltthad's situation will be different from the other 2 big teams, because they will play against an opponent who has had an acceptable performance, and in the last 5 games they have only lost in 2 games and can achieve at least a draw in the game against Al - ltthad. In my opinion, I see the game being very difficult to predict the result and a defeat for Al - ltthad in this game could open up space for Al - Nassr to stay in second place. I highly doubt that Al - Hilal will lose the first position anytime soon

But Al-Hilal has one problem - Neymar  Grin It seems that now it is the club that is dragging the player up and not vice versa as planned. Neymar missed the penalty and I think his extremely sensitive nature is becoming increasingly stressed. I think if future opponents are cynical enough, they can easily provoke him into receiving a yellow card and then a red card. I'm sure someone in the Premier League would have done this already.
2463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 30, 2023, 06:11:31 PM
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Edit: Liverpool's player has just received another red card, namely Diogo Jota and currently there are only 9 Liverpool players left, can Tottenham take advantage of this good opportunity to score the second goal. If not and only get a draw until the end of the match, it means Liverpool is much better than Tottenham.

Lol, I wonder what the Liverpool players had for breakfast today - they definitely ate something aggressive  Grin Zhota came on as a substitute and after 20 minutes received the first yellow card, and a minute later the second  Grin
As for the result, it will not mean anything - in situations where one team is only defending (even with nine players) it is very difficult to score a goal, so I just think that a draw will be the more expected result here.
2464  Local / Разное / Re: Форум недоступен из России on: September 30, 2023, 06:05:24 PM
Кстати тут несколько человек пользуются Red Shield-ом вроде - изменений никаких нет? Еще до того как роскомфашики активизировались я заметил что на сайт Red Shield-а уже без впн работающего войти нельзя, это уже больше недели назад было просто забывал здесь отписать. Видимо действительно эффективный ВПН что сам сайт банят. На функционале самого ВПН никак не отразилось надеюсь?
2465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 30, 2023, 05:58:49 PM
Do you really believe this nonsense? Mbappe will sign/extend his contract so that PSG can sell him, instead of just pocketing the signing bonus  Roll Eyes I don’t know in what universe this could happen - as we have already seen, Mbappe is cunning and greedy enough not to miss the opportunity to earn money, but in this case it will turn out that he will simply give money to PSG.
Mbappe took advantage of the opportunity very well, but what is certain is that PSG will not lose money with his behavior. However, as a club, PSG will be full of calculations in financing each of its players, both in terms of bonuses and paying player salaries. As you mentioned he did not miss the golden opportunity to get a big bonus from PSG, and on the other hand PSG also took advantage in the same form from Mbappe for staying at the club. At first glance, Mbappe transfer process is very long-winded and full of speculation, in the end Mbappe is as a player who looks very selfish.

On the other hand, I think PSG movements in the transfer market last summer were an attempt to convince Mbappe that the club would be able to win the UCL in the near future. This would certainly be in line with Mbappe hopes of moving to Madrid, because he saw that his chances of winning the UCL were one step better than PSG.

Any person is selfish, Mbappe looks like a mentally healthy person, so it is natural that he acts in his own interests and not in the interests of the sheikhs for whom PSG is a toy on which they spend their endless money.
The fact that PSG got rid of their star anchors and began to recruit “hard workers” was of course a positive sign, but it was already too late - Mbappe was ready to escape this summer. In any case, even PSG's victory in the Champions League does not change the fact that Ligue 1 is only the fifth league in Europe, with a large lag behind the first four.
2466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 30, 2023, 05:51:56 PM
Napoli won 4-0 against Lecce with unusual ease in the style of last year. In principle, this was predictable, the only question for me is why Osimhen started the game only from the second half - was he given a rest or is this the result of his ongoing conflict with the club and the fact that Simeone received a yellow card? In any case, it’s nice that Napoli is quickly correcting its situation.
2467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 30, 2023, 05:41:37 PM

The option to extend the contract for a year depends on Mbappe and he has not activated it. PSG can literally do nothing in this situation. Mbappe will leave for free in the summer and I don’t see what can be discussed here. Taking into account the fact that he returned the loyalty bonus to PSG (a gesture of goodwill), it can be assumed that the parties reached a peace agreement and Mbappe will simply finish this season and leave.
In my opinion I think for Mbappé to remain at PSG next summer depends on their performance in the Champions League and even if they win the league trophy it won't be enough to keep him in the team, lets not be quick to forget that he almost forced himself out of the his current team, and even had a secret contract negotiation with Realmadrid, which made PSG to increase his release clause and I was surprised to see him sign another 1 year contract with them.

But in the new contract he signed, Mbappé is free to  negotiate with any team of his choice after this season but PSG would sell him for the right price though they would still try as much as possible to keep him but like I said earlier, their performance in the Champions League determines whether Mbappé would remain in the team or not, else I think he could move to Realmadrid by summer.

 Shocked Honestly, I didn’t understand what you wrote at all. What contract? Maybe there is some news that I missed? Maybe you can provide links? Mbappe has not signed (as far as I know) any new contracts, which means his current contract will expire in the summer of 2024 and he will leave for free. PSG will not be able to sell him.
2468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 30, 2023, 05:36:45 PM
Leipzig   vs   Bayern Munich

Leipzig managed to take a 2-0 lead in just 26 minutes against Bayern Munich. Even though it was Leipzig's home match, Bayern Munich were considered favorites. But it was unexpected that they would back off so quickly. The Leipzig team is in great form. They have won their last 6 matches. And in most matches, Leipzig won by large margins. Looking at their performance in today's match as well, it seems that the team's only aim is to win this match.

If Leipzig wins today's match, the team will move to third or second place in the table. And if Bayern Munich lose today's match they will be fourth in the table. As Munich aims to win the title, every match is very important for them. Bayern Munich has a chance to make a comeback even after going down 2-0. The second half will probably be more competitive

Crap. Will it really be 0-3 against Leipzig again? I didn’t imagine that this could happen again, but so far Leipzig is completely outplaying Bayern tactically. Bayern cannot break Leipzig's massive defense, but Leipzig is successful in counterattacks. I don’t know what Tuchel can come up with in the second half - it’s enough for Leipzig to dry out the game and wait for a chance to score a third goal. The odds of them winning are now 1.3.
2469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 30, 2023, 05:28:53 PM
To qualify for the group phase, I'm sure Barcelona can do it. now they have enough players to compete although Xavi's fear is injuries to some of Barcelona's pillar players.
Last season Barca was able to appear very consistent in La Liga, but currently, Xavi must have another target in the Champions League.
entering the top 16 is very possible for Barcelona. but the competition after that will only be strong European teams which will be very difficult for Xavi. I hope Xavi can rotate some of his players in matches that look easy for them and prepare the best squad performance for the Champions League match. does not lower the quality of the players in the Barcelona squad. but Xavi must be aware of his team's current shortcomings.

The fact that Barcelona qualified was decided last season when they won La Liga and got into the first pot. As a result, the draw also turned out to be successful for them and they play in a group with Porto, Shakhtar and Antwerp. Here you have to try very, very hard not to get into one of the first two places. Further fate depends on the draw - if they have a strong opponent in the 1/8 finals, I would rather bet on it than on Barcelona.
2470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 30, 2023, 05:22:38 PM
Both Manchesters screwed up tonight with City making the biggest surprise of the league.Normally when a lot of favorites will be playing against weaker teams we will usually have surprises in such league like the Premier League and this is not the same as Bundesliga where quite some times all the favorite win their games.
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I just came home and saw the results of the games, I'm so glad that United (and City) lost! This is a bit unusual for a United fan, but I want this terrible Ten Hag story to end and for him to be sacked. And I get a special kind of pleasure when I read his post-match interviews where he finds a thousand reasons why everyone is to blame except him. Looking forward to publication  Grin
2471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 29, 2023, 04:51:18 PM
Pep was always buiding everything started from the bottom. I remember when he was coming to the manchester city and he has been putting UCL as the main target by the club and pep was able helping city to get its first UCL trophy after so many years.
It makes me feel that if pep was the key factor why manchester city was able getting tremendous success under him. I can remember that when there were still some players like david silva and friends played for city.
It has become the starter of guardiola's success with manchester city. City is also still possible to get second UCL trophy this season. Pep was changing everything.
Pep's era with manchester city has reminded me with sir alex ferguson once he was still on manchester united. MU was getting very big success with ferguson till everything changed a lot when ferguson was leaving from MU as he retired from being a coach.
I think that city will have the same fate as manchester city once guardiola will be leaving from the club in the future. City is in easy group now. The chance to pass the group stage is very big.

What kind of set of fairy tales is this? Pep came to City which was already the champion of England. Before that, he coached Heikens' Bayern (one of the strongest teams in history), and before that he got Barcelona with the golden generation of the Spanish national team. The mega funny thing is that having received these three strongest teams, he became the first coach in history to spend more than 2 billion on transfers. Pep received the strongest teams and still set records for transfer spending. You could say he bought the titles.
2472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: September 29, 2023, 04:45:30 PM
Hey, seriously cygan, thank you for the ping. I was so sure at the back of my head I'd submitted pick here ahead of all the other leagues even and realise now it must have been some weird ass fever dream -- entered everything in under 10 seconds, I love the format of kicktipp, tab button is your friend haha.

I went this time with 80% favourites (funny enough this time I was in full agreement with bookies)!

Same. I join in the gratitude. These games in the middle of the week knocked the sense of time out of me and this morning I was completely confident that I only needed to make a forecast for the Barcelona game. Then I was surprised (through Superbru) to see other things, then I remembered about the Bundesliga and only then about Fantasy (and damn it was already too late to make transfers).
2473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 29, 2023, 04:40:48 PM
Chelsea should indeed be able to use this match to get points, he has fallen too far under the standings, I myself am quite sad to see Chelsea after a lot of players and new coaches were brought to the club but they did not have significant changes, of course it was very disappointing and harmful .
Do you think that Chelsea will get full points or draw at this week's match meeting? This will be very embarrassing if they lose again and again, even by Fulham, if that happens I think that Chelsea becomes like a small team that always resides under the EPL standings.

It seems to me that if Chelsea loses points again (even after a draw) it will be too absurd, so even despite the risky odds (a little more than 2) I added their victory to my multi-bet. It’s a pity that this game will be held separately from all the others and you’ll have to wait until October 2 to find out the result.
I wonder after the Tottenham - Liverpool game which team will keep a zero in the loss column? Or both having drawn?
2474  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 29, 2023, 03:19:33 PM
I'm sure of this too. It’s hard not to notice that, given the presence of such players as Kolo Muani, Ramouche and Dembele in the team besides Mbappe, there is some “crowding” among the forwards. Apparently PSG hoped until the very end that Real would make an offer that would suit PSG and Mbappe would go to Real this summer, but Real have been strictly rational for many years and they decided to get Mbappe for free, even a year later.
Deciding to wait for Mbappe to be free is difficult now because by extending Mbappe's contract for 1 season indirectly this makes PSG still comfortable with selling Mbappe at a fairly high price.
Now indeed the decision is in Madrid whether they want or not to spend money on Mbappe especially I think for now they (Madrid) can be more comfortable to negotiate because Mbappe will definitely be sold in the summer because PSG has no choice now apart from selling Mbappe because the way of coercion they cannot do for a player of Mbappe's calibre.

The option to extend the contract for a year depends on Mbappe and he has not activated it. PSG can literally do nothing in this situation. Mbappe will leave for free in the summer and I don’t see what can be discussed here. Taking into account the fact that he returned the loyalty bonus to PSG (a gesture of goodwill), it can be assumed that the parties reached a peace agreement and Mbappe will simply finish this season and leave.
2475  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 29, 2023, 03:14:23 PM
What was that in the Genoa - Roma game? I never expected this bad performance from Roma here despite their starting the season poorly. I mean they were playing against another team with making a similar start. Apart from that Genoa aren't even qualified team as much as Roma in terms of squad quality too.

However Roma were hammered by Genoa 4-1 still.  Sad  Lukaku had a horrible day. Dybala couldn't also make any score contribution. But even if they did this Roma still had huge problems in their defense line. If they concede 4 goals from even Genoa then I don't know what they will do like this.

Yes, I'm interested too. Mourinho's teams are usually good at defending, but Roma have been terrible this season - conceding eleven goals in six games. If it weren’t for that abnormal victory over Empoli with a score of 7-0, Roma would now have an extremely ugly difference in goals scored and goals conceded.
My prediction (sadly) of a third disappointing season for Mourinho continues to come true.
2476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 29, 2023, 03:08:28 PM
i think today it will be very difficult to get a point or win in hoffenheim. the PreZero Arena will be sold out with 30150 fans and the team of hoffenheim
has played very good matches this season. hoffenheim has only lost the first match this season.
but they have always won the other 4 matches and are currently deservedly in 5th place in the bundesliga.
i think a 2-1 win for hoffenheim is possible. then hoffenheim would have 15 points and would remain at the top of the 1.bundesliga.

but you have to know....hoffenheim has lost all of its last 4 games against dortmund ! the last hoffenheim win was in june 2020 


source: https://www.fussballdaten.de/vereine/borussia-dortmund/1899-hoffenheim/spiele/   

Dortmund has one point less, but they have zero defeats, and Hoffenheim has one defeat, it doesn’t seem logical to me that Dortmund should lose today for the first time this season. And in general, at the moment, Dortmund’s results deviate from the average downward, while Hoffenheim’s results, on the contrary, upward, so it should be assumed that the situation should be corrected and Dortmund should win.
2477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 29, 2023, 12:10:45 PM
Since during the acquisition of Mbappe, PSG was simultaneously carrying out a scam to sign Neymar, they had to first rent Mbappe for 40 million a year, and then fully buy him for 140. Even at that stage it cost them a lot, but it was a more or less adequate purchase. PSG made the main mistake when they competed with Real Madrid and re-signed Neymar on unfavorable terms, and now in a year he will leave them for free.
Kylian Mbappe is believed to have extended his contract with Paris Saint Germaine till 2025 summer which means he'll still have extra one year with the French champions at the end of the season. The reason behind the contract extension is that Paris Saint Germaine wants to make reasonable amount of profits from his sale which I believe is gonna happen next summer when the France international leaves for his dream move to Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is known for their extravagant spending especially on players they really want to sign but not matter how expensive Mbappe might cost them next summer, I don't expect it to be above 150 million pounds

Do you really believe this nonsense? Mbappe will sign/extend his contract so that PSG can sell him, instead of just pocketing the signing bonus  Roll Eyes I don’t know in what universe this could happen - as we have already seen, Mbappe is cunning and greedy enough not to miss the opportunity to earn money, but in this case it will turn out that he will simply give money to PSG.
2478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 29, 2023, 11:44:12 AM
I believe PSG has carefully prepared for Mbappé to leave. Last season, they were ready to sell him. A big team like them won't depend on him. They are prepared to push him to the bench or sell him quickly. PSG is a financially strong team, and recruiting many stars to replace Mbappé is easy.
Saudi Arabia's "money" would make Mbappé the highest-paid player, but he doesn't need this. 'Success,' as you said, Mbappé requires individual and collective titles. A talent like him gradually fades away with PSG.

I'm sure of this too. It’s hard not to notice that, given the presence of such players as Kolo Muani, Ramouche and Dembele in the team besides Mbappe, there is some “crowding” among the forwards. Apparently PSG hoped until the very end that Real would make an offer that would suit PSG and Mbappe would go to Real this summer, but Real have been strictly rational for many years and they decided to get Mbappe for free, even a year later.
2479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ballon d'Or discussion and odds on: September 29, 2023, 11:35:20 AM
Are you from some sect? Or you were banned from Wiki and you cannot see that during the period 2008-2012 Xavi and Iniesta won 2 European Championships plus the World Cup. During this period, Messi failed at the World Cup and was not successful at the Copa America. At the club level they had the same achievements (you know that they played in the same team?) so it is undeniable that Xavi and Iniesta were >>> than Messi during this period, but Messi received 4 Ballon d'Or and they got zero.
Messi is just the son of the bastard corrupt official Blatter and that says it all.
Hahahaha!!!!. We might later discover that Sepp Blatter received kickballs from Lionel Messi. The Swiss was so corrupt that he was disgraced out of FIFA. However, it seems that there is still some corruption ongoing within the organizer of the Ballon d’Or. The 2021 award that was won by the Argentine was fraudulent. A German newspaper called a scandal and the organizers received widespread criticism. Even a child knows that Messi didn't deserve the award because Robert Lewandowski's performance was far better. But the German striker was robbed of a golden opportunity to be the world's best and I doubt if he would have such privilege again.
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The fact that Messi stole from Lewandowski is normal - after all, he is a competitor in every sense, there is nothing to be ashamed of (except for the fact of theft itself). What makes me laugh more is the piquancy of the situation where Messi robbed his teammates - Xavi and Iniesta, and the fanboys easily justify this  Grin
2480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 29, 2023, 11:30:45 AM
Reportedly the police conducted a raid on the referee's office. They are investigating the office of the referees committee as one of the steps of the investigation into alleged corruption of Barcelona's acting officials' payments. The Spanish Civil Guard searched the headquarters of Spain's Referees' Technical Committee (CTA) on Thursday. UEFA is also investigating the case. Barcelona allegedly paid 8.4 million euros to Negreira and the Dasnil 95 company.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66946236

Unfortunately, in this case we can only rely on the police. I am sure that all other parties from the football side will, as always, be interested in hiding everything. Of course, Barcelona, of course, UEFA, but even Real Madrid will be interested in this scandal subsiding - I am sure that they are more interested in having a serious opponent and the interestingness of La Liga than in ensuring that the cheaters are punished.
The way this case is slowly developing does not inspire optimism and is a clear hint of how it will all end - most likely nothing, like the investigation into fraud on the part of PSG and City.
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