That would make sense and it could be the reason why he wants to keep his source private. Wrong. not from him. Moderator can verify it wasn't from him. If the person I bought them from is some super early miner or the developer, I bought them without knowing that. As did other people no doubt.
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Guys once I have proven I paid for all my bitbars for a fair price, I am done with this topic. The moderator can confirm. I don't see anyone else being hassled like this for buying feathercoins, chinacoins, bitbars. If you don't like it, tough. I will be done responding as I will have proven I paid for everything. shill - An accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.
From the first post: "You were donated a fair ammount of BitBar to use your post count and reputation to defend it didn't you? " Completely false allegations like these have ruined my trading reputation You had the chance from page 1 to provide the evidence, I even apologized in Page 1 and asked you for the info... you denied and started treatening me with legal action which made you look like a joke and ruined your reputation, you did it to yourself. I've been providing evidence throughout the entire topic and now it's gotten to the point where I have to involve a moderator, all because of you. I am speaking with the admin about obtaining your IP address. Next step after that is writing to your Internet Service Provider. You've made false claims about me all through the entire topic.
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shill - An accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.
From the first post: "You were donated a fair ammount of BitBar to use your post count and reputation to defend it didn't you? "Completely false allegations like these have ruined my trading reputation
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Guilty until proven innocent? Nice trolling newbs.
Get evidence, make a case, make an accusation... go to trial (this thread) so suspect can provide evidence on his defense... veridict. What evidence? You again? after 5 times that I explained you how to read OP you are still derping? You posted a transaction log. Clearly you don't know what that is. Where is the evidence he didn't pay for them. Post it. This entire thread is derp unless you have something to back it up. Yup. He has nothing to back up his claims. Nothing. All he has is a 40BTB transaction that went into my address. That is it. That doesn't prove any of his claims!
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Guilty until proven innocent? Nice trolling newbs.
Get evidence, make a case, make an accusation... go to trial (this thread) so suspect can provide evidence on his defense... veridict. Lol at thinking you can repeatedly accuse someone of being a shill in public without evidence. That is defamation of character. You've ruined my trading reputation over nothing, I paid for all my BitBars.
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Guilty until proven innocent? Nice trolling newbs.
Get evidence, make a case, make an accusation... go to trial (this thread) so suspect can provide evidence on his defense... veridict. What evidence? You again? after 5 times that I explained you how to read OP you are still derping? Yes there is zero evidence I didn't pay for my BitBars. The only evidence in this topic are two trades I did where I paid for BitBars. Yet you still call me a shill over and over.
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This should be interesting Not really. Dull, boring and time-wasting for me as I know I haven't done anything wrong and have to put energy into defending myself from this stupid claim.
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I have messaged the moderator of this forum.
I am also going to give the moderator the password of my forum account so he can read every private message which documents all the trades which took place.
I am now waiting on the moderator, as I hear back I will update the topic. I will say once again, I paid for all my BitBars!! And if I have bought BitBars from someone who the community doesn't like I wasn't to know!! I had no prior discussion about BitBars and just bought them after the launch announcement!
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I nominate skull88 as well.
I am choosing the moderator of this forum. That is to eliminate any doubt. If you guys don't trust the moderator you can't trust anyone.
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I am sending the transaction details to the moderator. He/she will verify that I paid over 0.5 bitcoin per Bitbar for the 40 BTB.
I already have transaction proof in the thread from other post members for my other BTB trades.
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No news from mr_random yet.
So it's confirmed that he's a shill? Seems like it, colluded and will only pm details to whoever he choose to Lol you are a huge troll. I just said, you guys can pick either the moderator or someone with a large post count who can be trusted and isn't part of this witch hunt. Are you saying the moderator isn't trustworthy?
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No news from mr_random yet.
So it's confirmed that he's a shill? What? I paid for all my BTB. I clearly posted I want a neutral party to review the bitcoin transactions I sent for the 40BTB. You guys pick a neutral member, with a decent post count who isn't connected to this ridiculous witch hunt and I will send everything. All I ask if they keep the address details private (they are more than welcome to publicise how much I paid - greater than 0.5 Bitcoin per BitBar btw) Other proof my of transactions have already been posted in the thread. As stated on numerous occasions, feel free to message the moderator if you want someone trustworthy to verify I am telling the truth.
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Bter.com said they considering it after they get new servers running.
Thank you blastbob for that tiny info We talking mini now? =P.More people should email bter and get some interest going if that's true. I will open an account there Whoops, forgot the small font.
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If you want to buy in bulk I can give you a discount.
For a small order it would be 2 BTC per BTB.
I've done many big trades on the forum in the last month, all gone through successful.
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LOOL read OP again, I'm linking to the same thread that you are using as proof, that transaction came from the same post that I obtained your BitBar Address from, the link and quote is in Original Post.
Still trying to fool us with your legit purchase and still not explaining how you got ahold of 40 Bitbars from the Developer/Insider hoarders.
I have explained repeatedly that I bought 40BitBar in one of my private trades. I paid for it by Bitcoin and will happily send the transaction details to anyone here who is trustworthy.
If the moderator will get involved they can also back me up, I will send them all the evidence. I am sleeping now, hopefully someone offers to check the 40 BTB transaction when I wake. People here help me out, offer to check the transactions.
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Posting proof I am innocent of claims on every page until the OP stops these unfair allegations towards me Proof that I was paying for my BitBars:Item 1What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC. Status: 750 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:48 To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x Debit: -0.3999 BTB Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB Net amount: -0.40 BTB Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1
Status: 919 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:50 To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x Debit: -3.5998 BTB Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB Net amount: -3.60 BTB Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9 Status: 345 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:58 From: unknown To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random) Credit: 1.60 BTC Net amount: +1.60 BTC Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb Item 2:Successul trade that was done publicly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194243.msg2017598#msg2017598Item 3:For the 40BTB I bought off a member that ymer keeps whining about - I will pm the transaction proof to someone who is trustworthy and they will immeadiately confirm that I paid for the bitbar fair and square. It was not given to me for free, I am not a shill, I haven't done anything wrong. I had no clue who the member was in relation to the BitBar project at the time. Moderators of the forum can also go through my private messages, I have nothing to hide. Who are you trying to fool? you purchased some Bitbars and that evidence was already posted BY ME in Original Post. I thoght you were going to go to sleep and sue me tomorrow No. Item 1 was not posted by you. Yet another false claim. The moderators of the forum are welcome to go through my private messages, to see the transactions etc. Just to shut you up and your false allegations against me.
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Hey sido, why does the pool site say at the bottom:
Last block value: 0.164687 BTB
It's been at that value for more than 24 hours, is that really the last block value? I would have thought that it went down from that due to difficulty increases.
I noticed that too. I wonder if something is hardcoded to prevent the reward dropping too low. In which the developer needs to address this
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Posting proof I am innocent of claims on every page until the OP stops these unfair allegations towards me Proof that I was paying for my BitBars:Item 1What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC. Status: 750 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:48 To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x Debit: -0.3999 BTB Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB Net amount: -0.40 BTB Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1
Status: 919 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:50 To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x Debit: -3.5998 BTB Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB Net amount: -3.60 BTB Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9 Status: 345 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:58 From: unknown To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random) Credit: 1.60 BTC Net amount: +1.60 BTC Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb Item 2:Successul trade that was done publicly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194243.msg2017598#msg2017598Item 3:For the 40BTB I bought off a member that ymer keeps whining about - I will pm the transaction proof to someone who is trustworthy and they will immeadiately confirm that I paid for the bitbar fair and square. It was not given to me for free, I am not a shill, I haven't done anything wrong. I had no clue who the member was in relation to the BitBar project at the time. Moderators of the forum can also go through my private messages, I have nothing to hide.
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I just noticed there's a forum called bitbartalk.com. Anyone know who it's run by? That could probably be the person behind bitbars.
That is actually me. I set it up to help the community and announced it in a topic. Again I am not related to BitBars, that is why I was spending hard earned real BTC buying them.
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Proof that I was paying for my BitBars:Item 1What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC. Status: 750 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:48 To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x Debit: -0.3999 BTB Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB Net amount: -0.40 BTB Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1
Status: 919 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:50 To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x Debit: -3.5998 BTB Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB Net amount: -3.60 BTB Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9 Status: 345 confirmations Date: 03/05/2013 19:58 From: unknown To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random) Credit: 1.60 BTC Net amount: +1.60 BTC Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb Item 2:Successul trade that was done publicly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194243.msg2017598#msg2017598Item 3:For the 40BTB I bought off a member that ymer keeps whining about - I will pm the transaction proof to someone who is trustworthy and they will immeadiately confirm that I paid for the bitbar fair and square. It was not given to me for free, I am not a shill, I haven't done anything wrong. I had no clue who the member was in relation to the BitBar project at the time. Moderators of the forum can also go through my private messages, I have nothing to hide.
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