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1501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 11:55:43 PM
If BTC-e is like that do we want to make bussiness with them ? If they add BC they will get money from fees, and we have to ask/beg them to do that ? lol Smiley

Anyway - would love to see mintpal usd/bc (not euro guys, we cant have euro,usd,jpy, pounds coz we will divide volume too and higher is much better)

Cryptsy would be ok too but i think they think we are too low for them. Personaly I would use BC/usd instead of BC/btc coz BTC sux nowadays

Believe it or not but it would actually be better not to become "big" on btce. Notice Litecoin - they are actually trying to move people AWAY from btce and onto a "less anonymous" exchange (because coinbase wont take litecoin until litecoin has big volume on a not-anonymous exchange). Even the litecoin subreddit has taken btce off their siderbar.

HOWEVER.

In terms of the speculative price of Blackcoin it would be amazing and would give us lots of pumps I am sure,
1502  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 11:19:56 PM
Cheesy Cheesy

I sent a ticket to BTCe begging for it to be added lol.


Well, as someone who has spent some time on there... I would guarantee that they are watching - but won't move until it's too late most likely.

After all you're talking about people who are still saying that DOGE will be gone in a week... and they've been saying that since the Olympics. Smiley

Has BTCe made some official statement on adding DOGE?

Someone asked the admin in btc-e chat recently and he said "no". Check the trollboxarchive for it.
1503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 12, 2014, 11:13:29 PM

and price continue its way down the drain

i just wonder when the first big founder(other than me) will break and sell of all... will be interesting to follow

would be disaster, but hey nxt was build for disaster. only question of when.......

Just a little reminder of Elmos forecasting genius...it's like a small, furry Nostradamus.

(NXT went +25% today, to those of you reading this in the future....)

He's basically a reverse savant-idiot of forecasting and I always buy extra when he is here predicting doom. I do not recall him ever being right.

"A broken clock is right twice a day"  Cheesy
1504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed coin. MULTIPOOL We added 5% bonus on: April 12, 2014, 08:18:53 PM

Please, This is as transparent as it can be, check the google analytics report during the signup phase. You will see 56828 visits and 27425 unique visitors. You know the dev couldn't claim all this for himself
https://mega.co.nz/#!jQIFULSZ!vRqeTVsI0qeZ9SC9ZV7BSSTfEkKirm66VIoso-TgqkY

Not interested in? what are you complaining about then?

To repeat myself, there is nothing to stop the developer creating a shit ton of accounts and simply assigning himself the coin. That is a fact.

Comparing a google analytics report to proof of work mining is ridiculous.

Why don't we just stop mining Bitcoins on ASICS and just dish out new Bitcoins based on google analytics? lmao.

You're lucky that too many people don't understand the basics of crypto and will just buy any old rubbish. But please do me a favour and stop shouting out from the rooftops about the fairness of Faircoin, the hypocrisy is shocking.

True, but then again what is the problem with that? really?

Do you know that KnCMiners operates about 7000 machines? and sells those miners too! they mined friggen 21000 bitcoins in March!

now let's talk about fairness and transparency there.  Isn't that a big conflict of interest?

Personally, I don't mind.  I know I got my shares, a lot of people did.  the coin is moving up, new services are seeing the day of light regularly and as time goes on, the market will adjust istself. Are we going to bash on people owning thousand of bitcoins because newly adopters don't have the same "fairness" that early adopters had? If not, why would it be different with FAC?

FAC is NOT BTC, so the philosophy behind it, while similar, isn't entirely the same, it is an evolving concept. You might not like it, that's fine, but you didn't have to be a geek to earn FAC, and that, IMHO, was (and still is) a concept that was worth a shot Wink

Bro Bitcoin was just an example. If we had distributed Litecoins the last two years based on google analytics the system wouldn't work for hopefully obvious reasons.

I actually have no problem with people owning lots of Faircoin. My issue here is:

1. Calling it faircoin when it's clearly not faircoin.
2. Bashing other coins for not being "fair" despite point number 1.
3. 100% premine and a distribution method which is centralised, requires trust and most likely was massively gamed

Let's call a spade a spade here.

lol your talking about WE BASHING OTHER COINS? wtf are you doing here then? lol

http://agran.net/bc_getbalance.php?top=100 enough said buddy.

Once again you can't address anything I say.

I will let the readers judge my comments and decide whether to invest in un-faircoin.
1505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 08:14:11 PM
I wonder if we could get a story on coindesk? They seem to accomodate stories about most alt currencies with big followings. We could mention:

1. Broken into the top 10 coins by market capitalisation
2. 10 second transaction times
3. Partnering with coinkite
4. Multipool concept
5. First pure proof of stake coin based on the bitcoin protocol
6 ?

From coindesk.com:

News tips and pitches

You can email any news tips, press releases and stories to us at news@coindesk.com.


if we got a story on there it would be great exposure. Plus we could submit it to reddit and get the Blackcoin army to upvote it on r/cryptocurrency etc
1506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed coin. MULTIPOOL We added 5% bonus on: April 12, 2014, 08:09:57 PM

Please, This is as transparent as it can be, check the google analytics report during the signup phase. You will see 56828 visits and 27425 unique visitors. You know the dev couldn't claim all this for himself
https://mega.co.nz/#!jQIFULSZ!vRqeTVsI0qeZ9SC9ZV7BSSTfEkKirm66VIoso-TgqkY

Not interested in? what are you complaining about then?

To repeat myself, there is nothing to stop the developer creating a shit ton of accounts and simply assigning himself the coin. That is a fact.

Comparing a google analytics report to proof of work mining is ridiculous.

Why don't we just stop mining Bitcoins on ASICS and just dish out new Bitcoins based on google analytics? lmao.

You're lucky that too many people don't understand the basics of crypto and will just buy any old rubbish. But please do me a favour and stop shouting out from the rooftops about the fairness of Faircoin, the hypocrisy is shocking.

True, but then again what is the problem with that? really?

Do you know that KnCMiners operates about 7000 machines? and sells those miners too! they mined friggen 21000 bitcoins in March!

now let's talk about fairness and transparency there.  Isn't that a big conflict of interest?

Personally, I don't mind.  I know I got my shares, a lot of people did.  the coin is moving up, new services are seeing the day of light regularly and as time goes on, the market will adjust istself. Are we going to bash on people owning thousand of bitcoins because newly adopters don't have the same "fairness" that early adopters had? If not, why would it be different with FAC?

FAC is NOT BTC, so the philosophy behind it, while similar, isn't entirely the same, it is an evolving concept. You might not like it, that's fine, but you didn't have to be a geek to earn FAC, and that, IMHO, was (and still is) a concept that was worth a shot Wink

Bro Bitcoin was just an example. If we had distributed Litecoins the last two years based on google analytics the system wouldn't work for hopefully obvious reasons.

I actually have no problem with people owning lots of Faircoin. My issue here is:

1. Calling it faircoin when it's clearly not faircoin.
2. Bashing other coins for not being "fair" despite point number 1.
3. 100% premine and a distribution method which is centralised, requires trust and most likely was massively gamed

Let's call a spade a spade here.
1507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed coin. MULTIPOOL We added 5% bonus on: April 12, 2014, 07:57:15 PM

Please, This is as transparent as it can be, check the google analytics report during the signup phase. You will see 56828 visits and 27425 unique visitors. You know the dev couldn't claim all this for himself
https://mega.co.nz/#!jQIFULSZ!vRqeTVsI0qeZ9SC9ZV7BSSTfEkKirm66VIoso-TgqkY

Not interested in? what are you complaining about then?

To repeat myself, there is nothing to stop the developer creating a shit ton of accounts and simply assigning himself the coin. That is a fact.

Comparing a google analytics report to proof of work mining is ridiculous.

Why don't we just stop mining Bitcoins on ASICS and just dish out new Bitcoins based on google analytics? lmao.

You're lucky that too many people don't understand the basics of crypto and will just buy any old rubbish. But please do me a favour and stop shouting out from the rooftops about the fairness of Faircoin, the hypocrisy is shocking.

100 adresses of black coins only have 40% of the whole coins talk to me about fairness my friend haha.

Lol just a big group of potential dumpers who got their coins for the SO SO fair BC POW mining lol talking about ridiculous eh.

You strengthen my argument by not being able to respond to my points. Thanks
1508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed coin. MULTIPOOL We added 5% bonus on: April 12, 2014, 07:56:10 PM
How do you know how much the developer owns of Faircoin? He could create a thousand accounts and have assigned him 50% of all Faircoin.

If however he had used proof of work mining to distribute the coins (Blackcoin or almost any other coin) he wouldn't have been able to do this.

just for your information:

http://agran.net/bc_getbalance.php?top=100

http://fac.blockx.info/richlist/

Dont talk about fair distribution lol ur not helping ur case.

Are you naive? You do realise that a single wallet owned by a single person can contain hundreds of addresses?

If anything that makes it MORE likely that the dev has a shit ton of the coins. Steps:

1. Create a shit ton of accounts
2. Send premined money to each of these accounts
3. Really these accounts all belong to one person but look like they belong to other people

Blackcoin distribution compares extremely well to any other proof of work mined coin which can be mathetically verified independently. It's nonsense comparing that to a method where some dude randomly gives away coins however he wants. You are comparing a method which is decentralised, verifiable, AND CANNOT BE GAMED, vs a method that requires complete trust, is centralised, cannot be verified, can be gamed and in all probability has been gamed.

This is how a real faircoin should be done:

1. ZERO premine
2. Proof of work mining period to distribute the coins fairly
3. No shadiness

That coin already exists and it's called Blackcoin. The true faircoin.
1509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed coin. MULTIPOOL We added 5% bonus on: April 12, 2014, 07:47:16 PM

Please, This is as transparent as it can be, check the google analytics report during the signup phase. You will see 56828 visits and 27425 unique visitors. You know the dev couldn't claim all this for himself
https://mega.co.nz/#!jQIFULSZ!vRqeTVsI0qeZ9SC9ZV7BSSTfEkKirm66VIoso-TgqkY

Not interested in? what are you complaining about then?

To repeat myself, there is nothing to stop the developer creating a shit ton of accounts and simply assigning himself the coin. That is a fact.

Comparing a google analytics report to proof of work mining is ridiculous.

Why don't we just stop mining Bitcoins on ASICS and just dish out new Bitcoins based on google analytics? lmao.

You're lucky that too many people don't understand the basics of crypto and will just buy any old rubbish. But please do me a favour and stop shouting out from the rooftops about the fairness of Faircoin, the hypocrisy is shocking.
1510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed coin. MULTIPOOL We added 5% bonus on: April 12, 2014, 07:42:17 PM
Guys, it doesn't take a rocket scientist

1) I have no idea how many shares the dev, or even a group that may be associated with a dev may have registered for themselves
2) BC flopped after PoW mining, meaning many of those who mined during PoW week had sold out, else how else would it have dropped to 500 sat?

There's a reason there are big investment groups behind BC right now, and it's not because they had huge mining farms during PoW week. Your distribution model is nothing new either : PMC has already done it, and look where it is now.

I'm not saying point #1 was taken to the extremes with FAC. Maybe the distribution was truly 100% fair, but unfortunately I just don't know. Sad

Anyway, good luck with FAC, but please stop trying to convince others its somehow a fair version of BC. "BC this, BC that", if you keep comparing yourselves to BC and only trying to ride up the success of BC, you are destined to fail in the end.

Go look back a couple of pages the amount of bc trolls publishing here before asking us to stop trying to get ideas into peoples head.

Your talking about fair distribution but yet  people been receiving 200k+ blackcoin in the first couple of days.

Quit the bs lol.

Quit the bs?

FAC is 100% premined you noob. Let me spell that out to you, that means the person who created FAC owned every single FAC that ever existed. He then gave it out to people using a method that can't be checked. Compare this with Bitcoin that uses the global consensus of the blockchain that anyone can independently verify and proof of work mining as a way of FAIRLY distributing the coin in a manner which cannot be GAMED.

Fair coin is actually one of the LEAST fair coins out there. We might as well go back to the government printing out money and giving it out to people randomly.

Nah u cut ur fkin bs i was here since the begining and there was no way to be more fair than how it happenned.

Blackcoins  500k holders in the first week due to heavy mining rig is fuckin fair to you? Gtfo

How about stop swearing and try to articulate your side? Is that possible? Obviously not since you can actually argue with what I just said.

Lets compare the two methods:

1. A single person holding all the money and giving it out to people using a method that can be gamed and involves TRUSTING that person

2. People using mathematics (mining) and the blockchain, to distribute the coins out in a way that cannot be gained, which is decentralised and involves zero trust.

The irony is Faircoin is actually the LEAST fair coin out of most of the coins on here. Unfortunately a lot of people just buy coins based on a pump and don't do their research and get burned. Reason: premined coins by the dev NEVER go far in this community. Look at MINT to see what I am talking about, it;s almost identical to Blackcoin and yet it's daily trading volume is pathetically small, and they both launched around the same time. Pre-mined coins get the worst reputation.
1511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed coin. MULTIPOOL We added 5% bonus on: April 12, 2014, 07:36:45 PM
How do you know how much the developer owns of Faircoin? He could create a thousand accounts and have assigned him 50% of all Faircoin.

If however he had used proof of work mining to distribute the coins (Blackcoin or almost any other coin) he wouldn't have been able to do this.
1512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Faircoin - The First Fairly Distributed coin. MULTIPOOL We added 5% bonus on: April 12, 2014, 07:35:05 PM
Guys, it doesn't take a rocket scientist

1) I have no idea how many shares the dev, or even a group that may be associated with a dev may have registered for themselves
2) BC flopped after PoW mining, meaning many of those who mined during PoW week had sold out, else how else would it have dropped to 500 sat?

There's a reason there are big investment groups behind BC right now, and it's not because they had huge mining farms during PoW week. Your distribution model is nothing new either : PMC has already done it, and look where it is now.

I'm not saying point #1 was taken to the extremes with FAC. Maybe the distribution was truly 100% fair, but unfortunately I just don't know. Sad

Anyway, good luck with FAC, but please stop trying to convince others its somehow a fair version of BC. "BC this, BC that", if you keep comparing yourselves to BC and only trying to ride up the success of BC, you are destined to fail in the end.

Go look back a couple of pages the amount of bc trolls publishing here before asking us to stop trying to get ideas into peoples head.

Your talking about fair distribution but yet  people been receiving 200k+ blackcoin in the first couple of days.

Quit the bs lol.

Quit the bs?

FAC is 100% premined you noob. Let me spell that out to you, that means the person who created FAC owned every single FAC that ever existed. He then gave it out to people using a method that can't be checked. Compare this with Bitcoin that uses the global consensus of the blockchain that anyone can independently verify and proof of work mining as a way of FAIRLY distributing the coin in a manner which cannot be GAMED.

Fair coin is actually one of the LEAST fair coins out there. We might as well go back to the government printing out money and giving it out to people randomly.
1513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
near 15 BTC on prelude.io
35BTC to Go!

https://prelude.io/trade/btc/bc

Sweet!

For people who missed it I believe moolah tweeted saying if we hit 50BTC worth of BC trading today they will add us to the full set of features they offer.
1514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 07:20:15 PM
Zeta is a troll, as confirmed by reading through his comments. Ignored  Cheesy
1515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 05:06:53 PM
Hate to break it to you but this sort of thing happens in crypto all the time. Tongue VTC went to $10 and back to $1 all in a matter of weeks. And it's technologically more interesting than other scrypt coins. Or take DOGE, which had more mainstream publicity than just about anything since. Up to 280 satoshi and now 100 sat.

That's because with all of those coins they are mineable by proof of work mining meaning tons of newly mined coins get dumped on the market everyday!

Compare that with Blackcoin! No dumping of GPU mined coins. The coin supply has been 74 million for weeks.
1516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 04:29:05 PM
We're number 10 on coinmarketcap.com!

We broke into the top 10!  Cheesy

Great work guys.
1517  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 04:26:58 PM
So it's safe to say BC is like a good coin for long term holding yes? Just whenever we got spare btc just buy more BC yes correct? This would be the wisest decision..

I am 60% BC and 40% FAC.

If things keep up like this im gonna be sitting on over 100 bitcoins soon.  Cool

FAC THAT!!!! OR maybe you meant fap coin? There is only one coin worth buying in Crypto and Blackcoin is that coin. Bitcoin better watch out because here we come!!!! Multipool growing!


YEah what the FAC? Promote that shit somewhere else

+1.

FAC is 100% premined! Don't compare that trash to Blackcoin.

Buy FAC and make the developer who "gave out" the FAC coins to everyone rich LOL.
1518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 01:34:42 PM
I'm going on record here: Blackcoin will take down Litecoin. Fact is, if we start getting anywhere near Litecoin, the resulting tidal wave of publicity and interest on that fact alone will push us past Litecoin.

There. I said it.

I see this as inevitable. It's simply a matter of time.

10 second transactions + partnership with coinkite for point of sale terminals in shops make this a winner.

Then you factor in it's pure proof of stake meaning there won't be millions of dollars of electricity wasted mining everyday and it seems from a marketing perspective Blackcoin is going to kick all manner of butt.

I'll be coming back to quote this when we breeze past DOGE  Cool
1519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 01:12:08 PM
Great work guys.  Cheesy It brought me great pleasure to wake out of bed this morning and see the next blackcoin pump has started.

If you have followed the price of Blackcoin like I have there have been several "floors". Once a floor is established and enough people have dumped their cheaper bought coins for profit, the next upswing occurs   Cheesy We saw this at 600 satoshis, 1500 satoshis, briefly at 3500 satoshis, 5000 satoshis approximately, 8000 satoshis and then at 9500 satoshis.

As many of us expected, when it broke through the 10000 satoshi barrier it would go on it's next pump.

Newcomers, this is the 6th time we've observed this pattern. I would encourage newcomers who have an interest in Blackcoin to accumulate now. Remember this is 100% proof of stake so there is not tons of new GPU mined coins being dumped on the market every day by miners for profit.

+1

I posted something similar a few posts back. I think the new floor will be 12,000. I do not see it going below 10,000. A lot of people bought just above 10,000 and then again around 12,000.

12,000 seems a sensible floor. Something I am paying attention to is the 24 hour trading volume at Mintpal. Generally at the height of a Blackcoin pump we touch 1000BTC... sometimes higher. Dumping has also been minimal over the last 6 hours, in terms of no monster dumps of eg 50 BTC worth of Blackcoin in 5 minutes.

Can't wait to see where we get to by the middle of summer.
1520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 12, 2014, 12:58:47 PM
Probably best to just ignore him. Remember this is also the guy who proposed a "central council" to set the price of the coin.

Yes I know. Ever since I didn't support his "Council" idea he as been posting FUD about me. In other news...BC had an amazing week and I am very happy Grin!!!


so you get good percentage from the profit
you are making thousands of dollars by scamming other members of this community
since your fake marketing campaign (one link in Yahoo for 400 $)
you with your team don't represent BC, anyone have the right to be here, if you don't like my opinion don't answer me, i'm not posting for you, it's for revealing the scam behind this cards

Everyone can see in the topic that I personally donated $100 worth of coins towards that campaign and I can tell you I am extremely happy with the press release. And I said this when we were still in the 9500 price range. IconicExpert also went way above and beyond what I expected in terms of promoting it here and getting people in the topic excited.

The press release is great for Blackcoin SEO (search engine optimisation). We have a reputable financial website like yahoo finance publishing about Blackcoin. Long term the more high quality sites we can get writing about Blackcoin the better.

Please stop spreading rubbish and FUD in our blackcoin topic. Ultimately it makes no difference though, we've had trolls from back since 2000 satoshis and we've kept climbing  Cheesy
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