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2561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 13, 2015, 08:22:17 PM
Haven't seen or heard from tacotime in a long time. Is he still active in XMR development?

Someone else and me asked this two months ago as well. He is still active, just less public:

There's been some discussion on this somewhere in the past, I thought it became a "tacoshi" in reference to the dev tacotime.

edit: found this https://moneroeconomy.com/news/submultiples-monero

When was the last time tacotime did anything remotely related to monero? Serious question.


EDIT: Why not call the smallest Monero denomination... a Nero.

I would appreciate an answer to this as well.

At 2am today (my time)  -


[01:53:09] <tacotime> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-josefsson-eddsa-ed25519-03#section-5.6
[01:53:36] <tacotime> there's a step where you get r from SHA-512(prefix || M)
[01:54:10] <tacotime> where prefix is SHA-512(secret)[32:64]
[01:57:48] <tacotime> (the first half of the prefix is used to generate the scalar to use as a private key)
[01:58:08] <tacotime> my question is, can't prefix be anything and the won't the signature still be valid if it is?
[01:58:21] <tacotime> and is there any reason that doing this would be dangerous?
[01:59:27] <tacotime> i realize that if you use a bad value it might be like choosing a bad K in general
[01:59:38] <tacotime> but if your value is securely chosen, is it safe?
[02:34:26] <tacotime> and also
[02:34:26] <tacotime> is it possible to construct hd keychains from ed25519 private scalars? i don't really thing it is because there are four required bits that need to be set for an ed25519 scalar to be valid in terms of generating a signature
[02:34:26] <tacotime> i kinda wonder if there's a way around that though
[02:34:29] <tacotime> normally for an hd keychain you += hash(pubkey || index) to both the private scalar and public point
[02:35:38] <tacotime> so to get priv_i and pub_i
[02:36:06] <tacotime> priv_i = (priv + hash) mod N
[02:37:17] <tacotime> pub_i = (pub + scalarbasemult(hash))
[02:38:16] <tacotime> and how come monero doesn't run into this issue when it generates private keys through ecdh? does monero allow these scalars to be legal with the bits set anyway?
[02:38:37] <tacotime> because you'd expect 1 in every 2^4 scalars for any given derived keypair to be invalid
[02:38:42] <tacotime> but i'm probably missing something
[02:59:03] <tacotime> okay i figured out the zeroing out of the 3 lsbs
[02:59:12] <tacotime> that's just *= the cofactor
[02:59:29] <tacotime> but you do need one bit to be set in the private key for it to be useable, right??
[03:00:22] <tacotime> so when you ecdh a corresponding secret to the recipient, how can you tell with 100% certainty that the private key they will derive has a single set bit in the 254th position??


In addition, a relevant comment from smooth:

Is he pretty active in the background of things?

He's but at the moment less than some times in the past.

The thing is we are all part time with various other demands on our time so each team member's activity level varies over time.

Take NoodleDoodle for example. He did the critical early work to optimizing (or de-unoptimizing and de-obfuscating if you want to call it that) the proof-of-work last year and you didn't hear much from him for a while, although he was still somewhat active behind the scenes. Then recently he did a huge amount of work to fix and optimize the database code. It's pretty much the same for every single one of us.
2562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 13, 2015, 06:06:27 PM

The author of the paper, Shen Noether (pseudonym) is one of the researchers of Monero Research Lab

 

Is "Shen Noether" a member of bitcointalk that comes in these threads frequently? If so, could he maybe give us the low down of what everything means in the paper? I would love to learn more about what's going to happen in the future with XMR.

academic using pseudonym

Indeed, you can read about the MRL guys here -> https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/people (scroll down to The Monero Research Lab)
2563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 13, 2015, 05:51:41 PM

The author of the paper, Shen Noether (pseudonym) is one of the researchers of Monero Research Lab

 

Is "Shen Noether" a member of bitcointalk that comes in these threads frequently? If so, could he maybe give us the low down of what everything means in the paper? I would love to learn more about what's going to happen in the future with XMR.

Weren't the comments on his reddit thread sufficient for you? He isn't really active on bitcointalk as far as I know. I've seen him appearing in #bitcoin-wizards and he is /u/NobleSir on reddit though.

His comments:
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Amounts would now be hidden so your set of potential ring partners is much larger.
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Im not an expert in zerocash, but it will mean hidden amounts, origins, and destinations, while viewkeys will still work, and of course it will still be auditable.

It's obviously a working paper (see also the 0.1 in the title), so there is still a lot of work (also taking reviewing into account) that needs to be done before this can be implemented, but it is a good step forward.
2564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 13, 2015, 05:36:53 PM
Is the CT in Monero bullish or bearish? I thought Monero Tx's were already so obfuscated as to not need something like CT.

For me personally bullish, it just adds another layer of obfuscation and protects against third parties analyzing the blockchain.
2565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 12, 2015, 09:21:07 PM
Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) for Monero: A work in progress, comments welcome

https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/blob/master/RingCT0.1_copy.pdf

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/
2566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 12, 2015, 09:20:55 PM
Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) for Monero: A work in progress, comments welcome

https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/blob/master/RingCT0.1_copy.pdf

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/
2567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 12, 2015, 05:07:41 PM

And just merged into both the master and development branches.

As well as being default, is it an enforced minimum?

Read the following link and it will probably be crystal clear for you -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3n06qw/there_seems_to_be_some_confusion_around_the/
2568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero is the best crypto of 2015 on: October 12, 2015, 04:31:05 PM
I, as a Monero proponent, am kind of annoyed by all these threads. Newcomers, please just stick to our ANN or speculation thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.new#new & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.new#new). Makes no sense to open up an additional thread.

It could also be that the OP is just doing some reverse trolling. So be aware of that.
2569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 12, 2015, 04:07:36 PM
it was accepted, it was even on the asks yesterday night, thats why i am confused.

my impression was as soon as he takes it he has to pay the 24h reate at least once..am i wrong?

but i will double check later..

edit: found it, example here:

XMR   -   Lending Earning   2.0000%   208.92286763   15%   0.15301665 XMR   2015-10-11 18:08:58

i dont get it...looks like Hour or even minute based?

that would be cool i guess...

It's minute based if I recall correctly, would be a bit of a skewed situation if you would only get interest after 24 hours.
2570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 12, 2015, 12:56:57 PM
I like the idea of what etheruem was intended to do but I don't like the managing of the project at all.

Simple undeniable fact is they ran out of money before coming even close to finishing their stated objectives, starting with very respectable budget of around $10-15 mill (depending on what BTC price you use). Even for $10 million they should have gotten much closer.

That is 100% proof of bad management or fraud.

What the project was trying to do was way overhyped anyway. The easiest way to provide a better platform for smart contracts on a blockchain would be to start with BTC and improve its script capability a little bit. Literally nothing else is needed.

Which is why Automated Transactions exists and Counterparty and others were able to implement ETH-like systems with none of them spending anywhere near what ETH spent and all of them getting more done in less time.

Someday Monero will probably have some smart contract capabilities (though I personally hope it is on an interoperable system like side chain or an optional daughter chain or something and not directly on the main chain) and we too will do it for much, much less than $15 million.

I share the same opinion. As soon as I saw Automated Transactions (AT) in action I knew that separate ETH-stile systems are of no need and are way overpriced and overhyped. The time will come and we'll have it implemented in Monero.

Monero price speculation: Some people want the Monero price to be low despite that it could lead to loose of momentum. It could be malicious or they want to buy lower and lower. It's done with little resources - when the selling bot is operational it's selling just 10-15000 per 24 hours and there are some bigger dumps designed to create panic sells. Those big dumps could be someone dumping on his own walls in exchange of a poloniex fee, but he's getting big discount on the price for buying more. The actual fuel for this is the guys who panicked and also those who saw the downtrend painted by the bot. Depending on the resources used for this or the amount needed to be bought this could continue for a while or stop instantly. I don't like this pump and dump behavior and I think Monero is oversold now, but I feel good both ways - I'm buying more on each and every considerable swing.

I have to disagree wrt the selling bot. A selling bot isn't really used to manipulate, it's mainly used to just get the best price without slippage. Furthermore, a selling bot is a pretty ineffective way to manipulate the price. Could be a miner, or just someone wanting to get out of crypto entirely. Not sure what the reasons are. The big dumps and the stacking of asks reeks more of manipulation than the selling bot imo. Agree with the remainder of your assertion.
2571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 12, 2015, 12:02:26 AM
What about we tone it down and remain respectful to one another?


Agree with you here, can't really comprehend the hostile tone here kazuki49. Illodin just stated a few things he thought would be relevant, there was no trolling or whatsoever involved.

I'm not really being hostile I'm sorry if it is being perceveid as this (except to Illodin because he will keep assuming things to fit his narrative).

I was pointing at the hostile behaviour towards Illodin. I prefer that you argue normally with eachother. Like I said, he did nothing wrong, why the ad hominem attacks then?
2572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: October 11, 2015, 11:50:31 PM
What about we tone it down and remain respectful to one another?


Agree with you here, can't really comprehend the hostile tone here kazuki49. Illodin just stated a few things he thought would be relevant, there was no trolling or whatsoever involved.
2573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 11, 2015, 07:15:52 PM
it could really hurt the market.

Conceivably.  But it seems more likely to consolidate support. Taking 8k 35k xmr from stupid hands and putting them into stronger hands isn't such a bad thing!

I suspect (on the basis that usd correlation appears higher than btc correlation, and that the principal egress point is a u.s. exchange) that u.s. persons are largely defining price,  and u.s. confidence in central planning seems high and mostly rising, albeit with many spreading marginal pockets of un-confidence.

In my opinion, the recent spike in 3 month t-bills (hitting par, thus 0% yield) confirms the current u.s. confidence in central planning. However, it could well be that we are nearing the top regarding this.
2574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 11, 2015, 06:12:03 PM
Regarding last 2 medium sized dumps (~6k & ~5k), it's someone shorting again:



Left column is the aggregate offers, center column is the aggregate demand and right column the weighted average interest rate.

Take a look yourself -> http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

It seems that someone is really eager to short, because demand is spiking now as well. Someone wants to borrow (demands) ~8k+ XMR at a rate of 2% per day. Even though the rate is high, I would advise no one to put his XMR up for offer, because it could really hurt the market.

UPDATE: Another 12-13k was taken out to borrow and was subsequently added to the asks. There is now ~25k until 0.0016, from which approximately 90% are from the shorting entity, so that's ~22.5k (note that he also took out some XMR after the dump). Furthermore, he already dumped ~11k and perhaps even more before that. So I am guessing his current short position is around 35k, perhaps even more. A bold move with these current prices if you ask me.

P.S. Bear in mind he has to buy this back at some point and if I recall correctly most of the offers were for a short duration. Thus, he most likely has to return most of the 35k XMR within the next 2 days (meaning he has to buy it back on the market within the next 2 days).

UPDATE2: ~22k was taken away from the asks, wonder if he is going to return or dump them. Time will tell I guess.

UPDATE3: Looking at the lending market, he is returning most of the asks he pulled out (he also removed his ~5k demand). Bear in mind that he still has to buy back the ~11k he dumped onto the market.
2575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 11, 2015, 05:31:48 PM
Regarding last 2 medium sized dumps (~6k & ~5k), it's someone shorting again:



Left column is the aggregate offers, center column is the aggregate demand and right column the weighted average interest rate.

Take a look yourself -> http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

It seems that someone is really eager to short, because demand is spiking now as well. Someone wants to borrow (demands) ~8k+ XMR at a rate of 2% per day. Even though the rate is high, I would advise no one to put his XMR up for offer, because it could really hurt the market.

UPDATE: Another 12-13k was taken out to borrow and was subsequently added to the asks. There is now ~25k until 0.0016, from which approximately 90% are from the shorting entity, so that's ~22.5k (note that he also took out some XMR after the dump). Furthermore, he already dumped ~11k and perhaps even more before that. So I am guessing his current short position is around 35k, perhaps even more. A bold move with these current prices if you ask me.

P.S. Bear in mind he has to buy this back at some point and if I recall correctly most of the offers were for a short duration. Thus, he most likely has to return most of the 35k XMR within the next 2 days (meaning he has to buy it back on the market within the next 2 days).
2576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 11, 2015, 03:53:36 PM
Regarding last 2 medium sized dumps (~6k & ~5k), it's someone shorting again:



Left column is the aggregate offers, center column is the aggregate demand and right column the weighted average interest rate.

Take a look yourself -> http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php

It seems that someone is really eager to short, because demand is spiking now as well. Someone wants to borrow (demands) ~8k+ XMR at a rate of 2% per day. Even though the rate is high, I would advise no one to put his XMR up for offer, because it could really hurt the market.
2577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 11, 2015, 01:07:21 PM
Regarding last 2 medium sized dumps (~6k & ~5k), it's someone shorting again:



Left column is the aggregate offers, center column is the aggregate demand and right column the weighted average interest rate.

Take a look yourself -> http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php
2578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The State of Monero address on: October 10, 2015, 09:26:32 PM
So tell me, why are you actually posting this? What's relevant here?

All of this information is relevant to the state of Monero.

Do you not agree?

But why make a seperate and new topic for it while we got an ANN topic?
2579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FreeBazaar - OpenBazaar with Monero on: October 10, 2015, 09:16:44 PM
So with the alledged OpenBazaar release coming up, it would be a good time to provide us with your curren thought regarding the project. If you are not going forward with it, I suggest you just donate the remaining funds to the dev fund or ask your donators what they would want you to do with it.
2580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The State of Monero address on: October 10, 2015, 08:57:46 PM
So tell me, why are you actually posting this? What's relevant here?
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