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2621  Other / Off-topic / Re: This is how you do Omegle. on: March 11, 2012, 08:41:21 PM
Idea for two premium Omegle features. I think they'd only be fun if just a few people had them, so maybe you could auction them or something.

Merge. Talk to to different people and when you click "Merge" they start chatting with each other without knowing you've been replaced. With some thought I think hilarity could ensue.

Hijack. While watching a conversation, click "Hijack A" or "Hijack B" to take control of their side without the remaining party knowing there was a switch. It would probably be good to let the person booted continue watching and maybe even open a chat with them. Ohhhh... just open chats with both with neither knowing and you can abandon one if you want or tell them you've stolen their new friend or whatever you want to do.

In general I think offering nice social services for free and selling godmode is a sweet model.
2622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Not a currency, not a commodity, but an accounting system on: March 11, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
Can you show the code/file/db that is a dollar? I think that makes even less sense than showing a bitcoin.

If you count Wells Fargo database as being a dollar then you need to count MtGox bitcoin balance database as BEING a bitcoin in the same way, which is absurd imo.

2623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin & Tragedy of the Commons on: March 11, 2012, 08:00:28 PM

You're overlooking what "tragedy of the commons" means. As you said yourself, the payment processor will make 325 € per block whether he mines or not, so he has no incentive to mine himself - he would much rather have others mine instead.

Besides, if payment processors and banks are the only ones doing mining, it means Bitcoin has become fairly centralized.
You are missing the point: the payment porcessor will make 325€ ONLY if the network is functionnal and secure. So the value add fees are his/her incentive to mine (not the bitcoin mining fees).

This is not a complete answer. If the network is healthy the payment proc will just mooch, if it is too weak there isn't anything he can do anyway without spending more than all of his profits (unless his actual mining power will bring him profit, which is what is in question).
2624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin & Tragedy of the Commons on: March 11, 2012, 07:39:11 PM
You're overlooking what "tragedy of the commons" means. As you said yourself, the payment processor will make 325 € per block whether he mines or not, so he has no incentive to mine himself - he would much rather have others mine instead.

He's going to have to pay the others. Maybe a tiny miner will include all those tx for a small fee, but the tiny miner won't likely get a block soon so if the payment processor wants high assurance of getting in a block before X time he needs to pay what the most expensive miners are demanding.


Besides, if payment processors and banks are the only ones doing mining, it means Bitcoin has become fairly centralized.

Not really. There might be thousands or more banks and payment processors and there will be no central body keeping anyone out. All you need to get in is to be competitive with the existing services in some way no artificial gatekeeper.
2625  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How did you guys get into bitcoin? on: March 11, 2012, 07:28:52 PM

Good points. It would be cool, though, to see a system where mining would be profitable for everyone willing to run the software. That would be the most badass network ever. Our grandparents would be running it.

That would be cool, like unicorns who crap skittles. Think about it, if mining is profitable no matter how inefficient you are it's endless free money and all resources on the planet will eventually be dedicated to it.

It's wonderful as it is, the amount of resources dedicated depend on the worldwide demand for the system and the supply is anyone who can provide the service we need cheaper than average. To me it's more magical than (impossible) free money.
2626  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: CoinAd - Free Coins every single day. (80% discount during beta) on: March 11, 2012, 04:52:53 PM
You people have seriously to stop advertising in this thread  Roll Eyes

This is not a rip-off, it's a competitor with better features compared one by one. Straight up your facts before try a troll attempt.

It looks the same, and offers the same. This service was last in time.

How is it not a rip off then?

It even offers the same standard BTC amount 0.001.

I am genuinely curious and not involved with either service.

You can buy a bunch of clicks or views and only add them when you want. It is cheaper.

Even if it was identical, now new bitcoiners can get roughly twice as much.

Even if it was identical we now have redundancy and are less likely to be stuck without a service like this.
2627  Economy / Economics / Re: If JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs owned 80% of the entire Bitcoin mining power.. on: March 10, 2012, 07:25:38 AM
It's not that simple. You never know if you actually have 49% or 51% and if you choose not to build on others blocks you risk doing work that doesn't end up in the chain later on and doesn't get paid. Monopolistic mining with a narrow margin is a risky game. Also while you might break other miners after a short time you don't know what those with 50-500k bitcoins saved up (and maybe some healthy dollar profits already taken) will do.
2628  Economy / Services / Re: Ordering Food Too Anyone in USA on: March 10, 2012, 05:30:46 AM
I'll help you out...
dmcurser and chungenhung are users I have dealt with recently who can vouch for me

I'll PM my order.  Please be sure they will not require signature; I'm not willing to commit identity fraud.

Please note the order is to be picked up at 10:15 tonight.

Terms from PM:
Quote
When the order is placed, message me an address I can pay once I pick it up.  If I do not receive a message by 9:30 PM EST (2:30 AM UTC), this offer is void.  I will pay the amount on the receipt converted to bitcoins at $4.9/BTC no later than 11PM EST.

If they want a sig just sign your own name. They aren't going to turn down the sale at that point even if you write apple horse happy.
2629  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: CoinAd - Free Coins every single day. (80% discount during beta) on: March 10, 2012, 03:05:12 AM
To advertisers:

Some users have many active ads in their accounts, while others have only one or two.
When someone entered the site was only seeing ads from the same user, wich caused a disadvantage for others.
So I limited the number of ads displayed per user. The max. number of ads that can be displayed on the front page per user is now two.

You can still have many ads active in your account, but only two will be shown. Those two ads are randomly choosen on each page reload.

I think this is the best for everyone.

Doesn't that just mean that people who want more ads up have to make more accounts now?

I don't see how it was an unfair advantage, they are paying more for the privilege right?
2630  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: betco.in's a ghost town now? on: March 10, 2012, 02:48:21 AM
You'll get them back, it is run by a legit guy, used to post here a lot.

There is action at sealswithclubs.org
2631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crazy Concept with Bitcoins and Recipts on: March 10, 2012, 01:53:30 AM
I always thought 82 cents should just be interpreted as an 82% chance at a dollar. But gaming commission blah blah big brother.
2632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins are not, in practice, fungible on: March 09, 2012, 03:17:29 AM
So you give Slush the money and he spends it on some sexy downloads, the porn site operator dutifully returns the coins to Slush because they trail back to a theft.

Boomerang coins!

The blockchain only shows that coins came from other valid coins, it is completely devoid of moral information.
2633  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: CoinAd - Free Coins every single day. (80% discount during beta) on: March 09, 2012, 02:20:25 AM
CoinAd now accepts FirstBits addresses!  Smiley

http://firstbits.com/

Now you just need to type that small and simple FirstBits Address.

Awesome going to try it now.
2634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Not a currency, not a commodity, but an accounting system on: March 09, 2012, 02:19:33 AM
What is the absurdity in considering Bitcoin a currency?
2635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [COMMENTS] Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: March 08, 2012, 11:44:29 PM
« Don't get me started on "money laundering." It's a completely artificial crime. It wasn't even heard of 20 years ago, because the "crime" didn't exist. Now, everyone speaks of it as though it were a real crime, like murder. It's ridiculous, and further proof of the totally degraded state of the average person worldwide, absolutely including US citizens – what we used to call Americans. The government proclaims something as a law, and "sheeple" robotically assume it's part of the cosmic firmament. If an official tells them to do or not to do something, they roll over on their backs like whipped dogs and wet themselves out of fear. The War on Drugs may be where "money laundering" originated as a crime, but today it has a lot more to do with something infinitely more important to the state: the War on Tax Evasion. »

Oh their god, this is a marvelous quote!

he forgot to mention the war on child porn... that's what takes away a large chunk of our freedoms these days.

maybe that's too touchy a subject even for casey.


no man in his right mind would touch that with a ten foot pole.

What does that mean? You support violence on people for having or sharing information about crimes committed by others or you don't support that violence, but don't want to say?
2636  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin & Tragedy of the Commons on: March 08, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Also people keep quoting "40 years", nothing special happens then. It's closer to 140 years when the reward is rounded to zero.
2637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin & Tragedy of the Commons on: March 08, 2012, 10:55:22 PM
Tell me if I'm addressing the wrong issue.

You are worried that all miners will accept all transactions with fees resulting in everyone paying the minimum fee which will cause very low difficultly resulting in easy 51% attacks.

First, empirically, not everyone is accepting all tx with fees now. I don't have data to cite, but I've seen it.

Second, there is a solid game theory reason to decline some tx with fees. Assume you are a miner with 1% of total hashing power and everyone else is currently accepting all tx that have fees. If you raise your min accepted fee to say .001 anyone who requires their tx to be included in the next block with probability higher than 99% must pay at least .001. Even if you lose out on countless .00000001 fees the tiny fraction of people willing to pay to increase their chance of getting in the next block will increase your profits.

This might seem to imply that bigger miners (1% say) have an advantage over insignificant miners, but this is not the case. While the smallest have no pricing power whatsoever they benefit from those who do. They will also be able to collect the .001 fees that were attached with the 1%er in mind.
2638  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs - Bitcoin Online Poker - No Limit Hold'em + HOURLY FREEROLLS on: March 08, 2012, 04:07:56 PM
a little BTC video I made for seals but should be a good one for general BTC explanation.  I've basically given this speech / presentation to all of my friends that will listen, so I just recorded it:

 meh how to embed?

http://www.youtube.com/v/QXNb9h12AE8

Wow, very nice. This needs to be on the website.
2639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? on: March 08, 2012, 03:21:50 AM
If I could be two people I'd be Bernanke and Satoshi. How could you lose? It's the ultimate epic hedge.
2640  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: March 08, 2012, 02:58:42 AM

"Doug: Yes, the move towards digital currencies is already happening, and not just as a result of government efforts. Remember Bitcoin. And, as you know, I'm a big fan of Goldmoney.com, which is leading the way to a sound digital currency. Although Goldmoney.com has bowed to government pressure and has suspended its service allowing customers to transfer funds among one another, it's another sign of the times…"

Lol, it makes no sense. Why would he like goldmoney.com? How is bowing to government pressure not 100% baked in to that pie? What are they going to do let government take all their customers gold and go to jail? I suspect Casey is involved in some way or has something else clouding his judgment concerning that company.
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