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If you take a withdrawal from Seals and don't like the coins you can send them back to the address they came from and you will not get credit to your account for them or you can send them to a deposit address and you will get credit for them. I imagine this will be how most sites work, so be careful.
Likewise if a friend sends you coins from a webwallet and you return them to the sending address neither of you will have the coins anymore.
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I was thinking about a scenario where someone sells some IP for bitcoins. Is this still considered a legal offense if the IP is covered by trademark/copyright? Since countries do not recognize BTC as a currency, doesn't that make 'making profit from BTC' impossible? (considering relevant legal definitions). It seems to me like IP for BTC is a very exploitable area. Obviously, bitcoin is multinational and there is no unanimous copyright law for the world as well as some kind of enforcer. I have heard about some cases where China has "violated" a lot of US copyright laws and US can't do anything about it. Has anyone else ever thought of that? I am interested to hear from both fronts: pro and anti-copyright. Looking forward to your insight.
Let me present two scenarios for your consideration. - Let's say that I'm the holder of some intellectual property, and I sign it away to someone else. Now they're the holder, whether I signed it away in exchange for some money, or some apple pie, or nothing at all.
- Let's say that I have access to some intellectual property, and I distribute it to someone else outside the bounds of fair use/fair dealing/&c. That's infringement, whether I was compensated for the copy with money, or apple pie, or nothing at all.
The use of bitcoins as compensation changes neither of these scenarios, because the scenarios apply independent of compensation or lack of compensation. Nothing has changed. (And as an aside: bitcoins are legally a "store of value" - it'd be like accepting payment in Amazon giftcards. The difficulty of tracking and returning stolen coins in no way puts Bitcoin "outside the law".) I'm pretty sure you can share stuff you own and it's the selling they get panties bunched about. Cite/reasoning on the legally a store of value claim? Is there a definition of a store of value somewhere? Is a gold coin a SOV? a cow? |
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I'm visiting St Louis really soon, maybe for a few days to a week. Anyone want to get together? Meal or drink?
I'll be ordering from GrubGo for sure.
I can buy or sell coins too if anyone is in need.
Also, tomorrow in Indianapolis?
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Tennant doesn't pay.
Lock him in the basement.
'ello guv'ner.
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Further, since you can see people's mBTC balance, you can know they have money to spend. You can tip people with mBTC. Further, people who engage in transactions can be rated.
So how is loading money into your forum account indicative of status? Who is holding the bag? Why should anyone trust them? You obv shouldn't. I wouldn't be comfortable leaving much unless I saw a reasonable long term way for them to make profit. Seems like a possible place to use multi-sig. |
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Love showing the mBTC, brilliant.
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Having problems connecting to the site to play. I can login OK but when I go to play a game the browser(s) [chrome/firefox] can't connect to port 8087. I don't believe that there is a firewall setting blocking this port.
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I'll look into it more as soon as I can, but have you tried turning any antivirus and firewall off? Very few people have trouble, but 2 others have emailed me recently with trouble though maybe you are one of them. |
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Get your 2BTC ready for today's tourney!
April 8th, (Sunday 4pm ET again) will be another 100BTC tourney, but will only cost 1BTC to enter.
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Hi,
just registered to SealsWithClubs and starting to try out the software and website.
Right now, i have two suggestions in mind:
- How about a new depositors bonus (could be a freeroll or get the deposit amount back as rakeback)?
- Get more traffic into your poker room, pokerstrategy.com for example is a great place to advertise and get some attention!
Cheers,
Roomservice
Welcome roomservice. We used to give free chips to new players. It was easier to stop that than to get into IP banning wars. Deposit amount as rakeback is a good idea, but our rake is so low it will take forever. :-) I like the more players idea too, will work on that. |
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I've talked to crosby quite a bit over the last few months, I expect he'll do what he says and hope he can get what he needs.
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Idiot court would probably rule that they have to give the file back.
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Googling "instawallet clone" gives seemingly full instructions. Someone really should do this. If it is a reputable person I can promise some advertising money from Seals.
I've been using instawallet to show new players at Seals how Bitcoin works. I think it will make them more comfortable buying coins to play with.
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That story about the bricks isn't the issue at all. If the stolen coins randomly show up with a third party and you have full knowledge and power to give them back to the rightful owner then fine. But what will actually happen is that goods or services will be traded for the coins possibly multiple times and instead of the person with faulty security taking the loss it will be a random bitcoin user. That makes no sense, it just moves the loss from those with weakest security to bitcoin users at large.
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Sorry to hear it. I really like that site.
I figure that it would make sense to keep the same info up there, otherwise you'd lose the traffic. Unless there is something better that could be there. |
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Even if you don't care about what is 'right' any exchange/wallet that appears to randomly take users deposits on claims that they came from a dirty source is going to go out of business.
If taking the coins was standard practice Bitcoin would be unusable. Even subscribing to a service that tells you if coins are known to be dirty doesn't help because thieves will turn them over before anyone gets a report in many cases.
Well - the question is if bitcoin is usable. If the stolen bitcoins were treated as stolen property - then I think bitcoinica can request anyone to return them back if they locate that anyone. Do you think the same on dollars? Let's say I videotape a break in and make sure to shoot every serial number of every bill they steal. Then 6 months later you get these same papers direct from a bank in exchange for your paycheck and I present the video. Forcing you to give the dollars once sucks, but if it is the general practice people won't risk working for a paycheck or using a bank. |
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Even if you don't care about what is 'right' any exchange/wallet that appears to randomly take users deposits on claims that they came from a dirty source is going to go out of business.
If taking the coins was standard practice Bitcoin would be unusable. Even subscribing to a service that tells you if coins are known to be dirty doesn't help because thieves will turn them over before anyone gets a report in many cases.
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I didn't watch it.
It seems to make sense that gas would be getting more precious over time. It makes no sense whatsoever that dollars would be getting more precious to match. So the change in the ratio of their values isn't a surprise to me.
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Yes, but if the bagholder isn't happy about the "quality" of the coins,
the person who committed the theft is now known.
This is not the right thread for this, we should move. The person is not known unless 100% of bitcoin services ID customers. |
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The downside is this would destroy fungibility. I'm not eager to see that happen.
Agreed. This is why I said many people would dislike this idea. However, there is nothing anyone can do to prevent it from happening at some point: all the data to do this is right there, in the block chain. No one needs to prevent it, and the data is not all right there in the chain, the most relevant piece in this case is in this thread. Thefts are not usually known in the first minutes after they happen. It will be trivial to switch the coins before they get the taint. Someone else will hold the bag (and they'll be kindly informed after it is too late by your spiffy taint client). |
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That (surprisingly) looks really good expect for the name which is absolutely terrible. |
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