It is only sort of working for me. I get a bubble every 20-30 seconds instead of a page full like the screenshots show.
A single bubble appears and the connect button is green for a while, then it disconnects and reconnects and I get one more bubble.
I've had this issue recently. I think a lot of people are using it at once so it's slowing the site down. But other times, it'll run normally; not sure. |
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Where have all the hardcore statists gone? Are they still around?
I haven't seen FirstAscent in a while. They're mostly avoiding this area of the forum, but I know there's plenty out there; probably in the speculation board. Edit: Also, I had to do an interpretive painting in art class, about issues around the world. I decided my issue would be statism. I had to stand in front of class and explain what my painting was supposed to represent and all that. Pretty much every one of my classmates was okay with it, and agreed that it was a problem; nobody stood up and said, "But the government is there to help us!" So maybe the statists are a dying breed.  |
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It's pretty late here so I just go to this shortly and bluntly.
How do people envision libertarian or anarchist society working? Compared to current situation. There has to be some advantages that scale allow on wide variety of fields.
And if everything is in relatively small scale, how will living standards fare? Would we have such things as top end electronics and highly advanced medicine?
Would the living standards be the same, lower or higher?
I probably will think more later today...
To go Rothbard on you: We operate in a state of anarchy every day. Any time you're not being supervised or controlled by government, you're operating in a state of anarchy. Anytime you're trading, working, playing, sleeping, or eating in a way which is not being directed by a government official, you're doing so in an anarchic environment; you are embracing spontaneous order and self-governance. You are taking personal responsibility for your actions and their outcomes. That is libertarianism. When you brush your teeth and take a shower in the morning, that is anarchy. When you make breakfast and kiss your wife or husband goodbye for the day, that is anarchy. When you wash your dishes or clean your house, that is anarchy. When you play video games, that is anarchy. When you drive to the store, that is anarchy. When you dance and sing, that is anarchy. When you go to work, that is anarchy. When you go to sleep at night, that is anarchy. When you dream, that is anarchy. It is never far from us. We are always just seconds away from slipping into anarchy. Anarchy stops the minute the policeman pulls you over because you were going a little faster than everyone else. When you grit your teeth because you have to send your children off to a public school. When you pay your taxes. When you renew your license. When you get a jury summons in the mail. When you see a doctor to get a prescription. When you walk through the body scanners so you can fly on a plane to visit your relatives. Everything else in between is anarchy. So you tell me... What would it look like if we laid aside the few vestiges of government that yet remain? What would it look like without all of these unnecessary laws, no taxes, and complete freedom to do business and make personal choices insomuch as you didn't violate common law? What would privately run everything look like? +1 +2 |
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Never knew you could store BTC on floppy dicks.
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Hey OP, if you ever feel it's safe, would you say where this occurred at? I really want to know, and I don't doubt this would make BTC news.
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The problem in a Rand world is that it doesn't account for irrational behaviour.
While its easy enough to be rational when you have very little to gain or lose, as soon as that formula changes, and your ego gets involved, then people will do the daftest things to maintain their lifestyles.
That is what socialism is all about!
Is socialism like Facebook and MySpace? (Just kidding  ) |
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Jews had been living in Germany for much longer than there even was a Germany.
Wow  Wasn't expecting that one. So it's more like Europeans immigrating to America and kicking the natives out, in that case. |
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The Germans were standing on their own land!! Who is right at their own home? So the Jews did not live in Germany? News to me. Hey, remember that guy we invited in our house? Who the fuck does he think he is, being in our house?! OH and I bet he's the source of all our problems, too! Let's get him! Second quote is so true! The only significant difference is that germans did not invite jews! Imagine migrating to America, living there for most your life, then suddenly America's like "Fuck all these immigrants, I'm tired of them taking our jerbs," and thus, despite the Americans being immigrants themselves, would tell you to get out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there weren't always Germans, and there wasn't always a Germany. |
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not to piss anyone off but where is Anonymous in all this?
you'd think they'd have an agenda surrounding all this.
Good question... I'm not too sure. Any 4chan users on this forum? |
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The Germans were standing on their own land!! Who is right at their own home? So the Jews did not live in Germany? News to me. Hey, remember that guy we invited in our house? Who the fuck does he think he is, being in our house?! OH and I bet he's the source of all our problems, too! Let's get him! |
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Threats will also be legal. This after all is just a series of noises. To be consistent a libertarian must claim that only a physical violation is illegal. A rapist who threatens his victim with a knife will not be convicted in court unless he physically hurts his victim because he will claim that the knife is his and he was taking it for a walk. Sure, he uttered a few words about killing the poor woman if she did not obey him, but they were just sounds and it is her own fault if she interpreted those noises as threatening.
I'm not getting the connection between IP and facts. For example, nobody has IP over gravity; how could anyone assume it exists, then? We can't assume Newton invented gravity, but moreso, came up with the concept of gravity. Although this discovery is attributed to him, what is and what isn't can't be held under copyright law, and nobody's paying Newton's ancestors grand sums of money to mutter the concept of gravitational force. So let's say someone witnessed the man mentioning that he was going to kill a woman with a knife, with a knife in hand. Now, the to-be assailant may not own IP over "I'm gonna kill you and then I'm gonna rape you" (as has been said numerous times I'm certain,) he can still be attributed to having repeated those words, by both the victim and a witness. If we can then assume the man did, in fact, say those words, and was caught with a knife, if that society specifically disallows threats to kill, he would be taken care of however they take care of men such as that. The point is, the man did not invent the phrase "I'm gonna kill you and then I'm gonna rape you," but that doesn't mean he still can't use it to get his intent across. Likewise, when it comes to novels, every writer ever has said the following: "I love you"/"He loves me"/"I think I love you"/"I think I'm in love with you" etc., so who owns the IP over these strings of words? Nobody; so now we must figure out where to draw the line when it comes to how long a string should be before we can say it is intellectual property. However, because there would be no national government to come to an agreement on this matter (per libertarian ideals), and no national government to enforce it even if society came to a consensus at some point in time, there would be no way to enforce copyright. No writer invented the concept of love. A writer is only going to string together events in a timeline, or concepts he's realized based on concepts realized by others. If a scientist figures out gravity is much more than Newton ever realized, does he then own the IP of gravity? And if another scientist took that scientist's ideas, and expanded on them, and improved him, does that scientist now owe royalties? It's a trivial matter, and anyone can say, "Well I came up with it first." |
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Bitcoin: Software
Bitcoin: Protocol
bitcoin/s: Currency (BTC)
I have seven bitcoins. I love my Bitcoin.
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Are you really thinking the price will ever reach again 200 dollars? !!! People are that stupid? Huh. Anyway, you should wait 4 hours, make 5 posts and go to the proper section of the forum for direct transaction. Of course it'll reach 200 again. Bitcoin doesn't even shake a stick at how much USD is sitting around right now. Heck, even if Bitcoin didn't move anywhere, the dollar's still gonna get weaker over time. |
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Makes sense; plus, it wasn't vital info, either. But it was fun seeing a wall of users at the bottom of the main page |
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Ooh a keeper |
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there's no point in them resisting.
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buy linden dollars (currency of second life) with a credit card. Then use virwox to exchange those for bitcoin. That's really the only method I've seen out there
unique idea! I hadn't heard about that method. Maybe it's time I resurrect my avatar which I haven't touched in 5 years... Be forewarned, there's a limit to how much you can charge (I think it's about 60 USD at a time), on top of a hefty fee for using your card, and sometimes it doesn't work (as is my case; my bank didn't like it for some reason, so it wouldn't work.) Otherwise, there's no other way. You can thank the chargeback for this; and also, that's why PayPal is discouraged, as well. |
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I can't even see them anymore.
They disappeared the day the site was DoS'd. But before they disappeared, I did see that we hit around ~7500 as most online at one time ever, and then poof, it slumped down to 0 online, then just stopped showing up.
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Agreed; since Gox has most of the market power, we should boycott the Gox.
Let's get gox goxxed!
Not to say nobody should use them anymore; I don't want them to disappear from the webs. But they def need to let the other exchanges get ahead, especially since they can't handle everything on their own (as seen in recent days, and in the past.)
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Not to mention, on the very same night, my desktop gonked out on me (video card failure) and then my Internet went down!
It's a conspurrhurrdurr!!
Well, maybe that was unrelated, after all. But it is kinda funny. I know one couldn't make accusations without hard evidence, but the suspicion doesn't go away just like that.
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