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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 07, 2017, 02:45:57 PM
@ tonych

Why no mention of the cashback program at https://byteball.org/ ? One need to dig deep into this chaotic topic to find out about it. Putting some spoiler with the program rules and contact at the main byteball.org page would help to entice more partners.

The first post of this topic doesn't mention the cashback program either. Sad

You mean like at https://byteball.org#dist.   Well, it is.
And there is a link with details at:  https://medium.com/byteball/byteball-cashback-program-9c717b8d3173

My Full Byteball Wallet is syncing very slow, since 09/17/17. How can I resolve the problem? Can I convert my Full Wallet to a light wallet without losing by Blackbytes?

I have answered this many times.  Hell, it's the very top post on this page.  Just read that.   Gawd, make at least a little attempt at reading the forum.
Posted just for you....
Anyone here tried moving from a full client to a lite client in their machine? Is there an option in lite client to restore the wallet from a full backup made in a full client?

Yes, there are several ways to accomplish that.
No, you can't directly restore from a full node (full backup) to a light wallet; however, you can restore from seed to a lite wallet.   This will convert to a light wallet, but only the bytes.  In order to move the blackbytes, you will have to move them from the full node wallet first to a temporary wallet along with some bytes to pay for the transaction to move them again to your newly restored light wallet.

422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 07, 2017, 06:44:21 AM
As far as I know there is no airdrop this month, am I right ?

Yes

And whats that gonna help? dump will happen one way or another. Research explorer and look for yourself that big holders from top 100 didint dumped. so most likely noobs and weak hands dumping  like crazy.
dates and random airdrops not going to help.

Partially agree.  I keep moving up the list (not in the 100 though).  So, some people in the top 100 are moving, but I noticed several addresses are just splitting funds.   

I think you're right that most didn't dump.  Likely the noobs and weak hands.     

Agreed.

What is the latest version of the wallet? Is it v1.10.1?

Yes

Hello! I'm trying to start using the Byteball wallet, downloaded it both on my Mac and Windows 10 PC, but it only starts syncing for around 1 minute and then shuts down (I chose full chain download). Please, help me with this issue. Thank you

Please try the light wallet option because in Byteball a full wallet hasn't any advantage for users, it's mostly for developers.

The issue is known and there is a fix proposed for the next version.  There is also workarounds; however, the suggestion of using a lite wallet is best.  (Unless you have a specific reason for a full node.)

Anyone here tried moving from a full client to a lite client in their machine? Is there an option in lite client to restore the wallet from a full backup made in a full client?

Yes, there are several ways to accomplish that.
No, you can't directly restore from a full node (full backup) to a light wallet; however, you can restore from seed to a lite wallet.   This will convert to a light wallet, but only the bytes.  In order to move the blackbytes, you will have to move them from the full node wallet first to a temporary wallet along with some bytes to pay for the transaction to move them again to your newly restored light wallet.

Who would invest in this coin except players?
Serious investors?

Without a roadmap, no investor knows where the journey is going (and the developers themselves probably don't know either).

The community also sees this coin as nothing more than a non-performing income. It is completely irrelevant that this currency should have any utility value.

So, are you going to sell me your bytes.  Seems like you don't want them.  Smiley
423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 05, 2017, 01:44:36 PM

For a moment there I thought I was in the twilight zone, turns out I forgot which month it is.

I'm currently stuck in October.  Grin
It's the 5th, so I get my welfare check today.  Gonna be eatin good for a couple of days now.  Then back to Mac&Cheese and Top Ramen  (no salt) for me.
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 05, 2017, 01:29:23 PM
can I claim the byteball for the previous airdrop?

Can you go to a casino and bet on the Football game that happened last week?

You guys got your airdrop for this month?

There was no distribution this month.  Read one page back or the very first page of the thread, or the front page on byteball.org.  - No distribution this month.

I just connected my btc address with byteball for the next airdrop, having a old ledger wallet I can't sign a message so I've sent to the bot the small fee required to claim the address.

The btc were received but it says that my address has 0 btc on it, when obviously it doesn't? Should I just move my bitcoin to a Electrum wallet and claim it from there?

Move your bitcoin from your change address back to your link BTC address.
Basically, your ledger made the small payment to prove you own / link the BTC address they WERE in, but in turn move the rest of those coins to a new BTC address of yours.   So, byteball sees that you proved you own the original address; however, it doesn't know the new address you sent the rest of your coins to.  Simply move them back now and byteball will see that coins are then in the address.

may be airdrops should be at random dates with random percentage like this month airdrop 5% next month 8% following month 15%...etc that way nobody will ask when the airdrop is and nobody will dump their coins only normal selling and buying of the coin
Or daily distribution to randomly determined addresses.

No, that would be a lottery and it lead to all kinds of scandal.   Right now we can prove amounts being sent out and to linked BTC addresses, etc.  If 'random' then we wouldn't know if it was truely random or a DEV putting in his 'random' address.  Also things like moving bitcoin around by such a person in order to his the 'random' address again later and it would be difficult to prove a thing.

I like the current method where simply owning bitcoin doesn't get someone a lot of coins.  Distribution based on byteball holdings is better as it encourages hodling and purchasing of coins.  I do think this method will prove to see a jump in price right before the next distribution (maybe a week prior), in order to get more holdings, but I also think the price will drop right before the snapshot (within a day prior) as people fear the normal after distro price fall.



425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 04, 2017, 11:46:05 PM
Will there be an October distribution round?

Read the first post on the first page.
Read the website (byteball.org)
Search the thread on the same question.

Short answer - No.


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Read the first post on the first page.
There is nothing about October.

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Read the website (byteball.org)
There is nothing about October.

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Search the thread on the same question.
This is all I can find which doesn't explain much.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg21838081;topicseen#msg21838081

@Michail1,
   Since you seem to be mister know-it-all... how about a longer answer? Why is October aidrop being skipped?


@chey,
   Thanks for the compliment.    Longer answer?  You simply asked if there is going to be an October distribution.  The answer was No.  Longer answer would be.... No, there isn't going to be one.

As for why....

2. We'll skip the October full moon.  We need more time to allow more merchants to join the cashback program and I want a larger share of the remaining undistributed coins to be used for acquiring new users.  Larger partners have large teams and need more time to make decisions and integrate.  The next distribution (after September 6) will be on the full moon of November (Nov 4, 2017), and the rules are the same as for September: +10% for Byte holders, 0.00625 GB/BTC for Bitcoin holders.

There is no information on October because there isn't going to be a distribution.  You can't expect a site to say each day or week there isn't going to be something.  The site simply says where there IS going to be something.

Have a good one.   PS.  No distribution today either. Smiley

426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 04, 2017, 11:41:07 PM

One is that you could be using the wallet on two different devices.  Did you move from one computer/device to another?

...i am using the same wallet in two different computerst which might be causing the problem.


Pretty close, huh.   Smiley
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 04, 2017, 02:37:36 PM
I hold 8 gbyte yesterday and right now I have 0.8 gbyte. Not a big amount but I will still holding. I believe in this cryptocurrency. Hope that after the airdrop, you guys will have more time to develop and the coin will have more space to grow stronger
So you sold 90%? That's not what "holding" means.
I suppose he meant 8 plus 0.8

I was thinking the same although he said 'yesterday' and 'now' so he might have sold 7.2.  Then he said he would still hold.   Uhhg.

Syncing is stuck at 9/17/17. Version 1.10.1 Windows 7 x64. Maybe someone has easy solution?
Upd. It's not stuck it's very slow. I wait 10 minutes and it synced from 9/17/17 8:37 PM to PM 9/17/17 8:45 PM

Just wondering... Did you have a specific reason to run a full node?  Seems people have a problem and it can't be quickly resolved cause of syncing issues.  I still suggest going to a lite client.
Syncing seems to be slow for some people.  Have you tried closing the app and restarting?  Also, I found a problem people were having in that when they closed the app, the byteball.exe file is still running in the background taking a full core for sometimes many minutes after closing.  They restart prior to it closing, and it launches another process.  So, in closing and restart several times, you might have many processes running in the background slowing things down.   They eventually close  though.

All hodlers until should earn a ball of steel sticker.

I want that sticker.  Smiley

Yeah, figured I need a break and spend my time, if only a little, more wisely.  Not getting my own things done, so I need to take a break.  Of course, here I am still answering others - heh  (Mostly via direct messages though).   My fav messages are from those people that are mad at me about the price drop, and I get to respond that I am not a part of byteball (dev or member or employee) and freely get to tell them to screw off as if I control the price.

I want to say thank you as well for all your work and help in this thread.  You were a consistent voice of reason and assistance.  I hope you can return soon.  Good luck with the other RL projects!

Thanks.   Just a break from slack.   I didn't quit.  Smiley
I've taken breaks from IRC as well.
I mostly just respond to questions in private messages although it seems I post a lot in threads too.
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 04, 2017, 06:14:37 AM

Hey Michail1,

Saw on the slack that you are going to take a break from Byteball slack due to the continued price collapse and want to invest your time differently.

Just want to let u know I have enjoyed many of your postings here and on slack, and believe you are right in your analyses that Byteball is a great coin and has good chance to go up a lot in the future.

Hope you succeed in hodling and see u back soon.

Take care and thanks so much for all your great posts!!!  Smiley


Smiley  Thanks for the post.

Yeah, figured I need a break and spend my time, if only a little, more wisely.  Not getting my own things done, so I need to take a break.  Of course, here I am still answering others - heh  (Mostly via direct messages though).   My fav messages are from those people that are mad at me about the price drop, and I get to respond that I am not a part of byteball (dev or member or employee) and freely get to tell them to screw off as if I control the price.

Also, yes, I am a Hodler.  I have never sold any bytes or blackbytes -- yet (although I have given many away) .

It would be great if they change the distribution model to benefit the Long-Term Holder, maybe 10% for Coins holding longer than a month, that will decrease the dump every time.

If I am right, the percentage for gbyte holder is 10%. I hold 8 gbyte yesterday and right now I have 0.8 gbyte. Not a big amount but I will still holding. I believe in this cryptocurrency. Hope that after the airdrop, you guys will have more time to develop and the coin will have more space to grow stronger

Good idea.  More difficult to change now that distributions are pretty set.  I think it's more stable to keep a single method than to change month to month though.

Yes, it is 10%.   No bank pays 10% (nearly) monthly.  No one really wants money in the bank anyway (even if banks were paying 10% monthly) - Just ask the people in Cyprus (and other countries) about the money they had in the bank.  Smiley
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 04, 2017, 05:58:14 AM
I keep getting an error message. I download the latest version, but after a week or two same problem keeps recurring.




I have seen this issue many times.  Mainly two causes (that I know of).

One is that you could be using the wallet on two different devices.  Did you move from one computer/device to another?

Two did you restore a backup that was prior to having received blackbytes or transactions where as the restored copy doesn't know of a transaction you made after the backup was made?

Sounds strange, but you can keep reopening the wallet and the error may go away / bypass.   Once synced, you may have an issue with private payments syncing.

In worse case, you can do a restore from seed and recover the normal bytes.  As for blackbytes, you can't do those with the seed method.  Also, since you are running a full node, it makes it a little more difficult because it must be allowed to sync up.

It appears that you have 10GBB, so you may only care for the estimated 5GB that you may have.  Can't tell because of the popup.  Your time may best be suited simply recovering the regular bytes and losing the blackbytes, but again, I can't see cause of the popup.

You're welcome to send me the wallet and I will recover most, if not all, of your funds.  Also, I would recommend you (or me) convert to a lite wallet unless you have a specific reason for running a full node.
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 04, 2017, 05:47:23 AM
Sorry to jump in but haven’t been following this thread for awhile. I’ve bought some coins in order to join airdrops couple of months ago. Price has been plummet since then. What happened? Did I miss something here? Something possibly big?

That sucks.  You could always make it worse by selling now and the price then jumps.  A lot of people did that with (insert your favorite alt coin here).

The price has tanked a bit too much now, not clear what's going on. Will blackbytes follow in the downtrend?

Blackbytes is stable, but likely cause it's traded mostly against byteball.
As for the price tank, it's what scares people, but may be the good time to buy.
- Just think about Bitcoin... was at $5k, then dropped $1k.  people thinking they should buy, but then continued to fall to $3k.  Definately people purchased but most feared it was going to continue to fall so didn't buy even then.  Now those people are mad they didn't buy as it's gone up $1300 of that.   Basically, no one knows.  I haven't sold any, but then again, I haven't bought either.  Just like everyone else, I have no clue.  Smiley

Lost pretty much everything with 7x price drop. This was one of the worst choice for investors in the last 6 months. This airdrop system was simply stupid and it prepared coins end slowly. Even if there was a price pull-up, I don’t think it would make a significant difference.

Ouch.  The key thing here is that you made a choice.  It could have easily turned out the other way and sky rocketed in value and you would have thought it was the best thing to have made.  Just think of all the people that simply do nothing.  I still have friends waiting to buy bitcoin ---- If only bitcoin would drop back down to $33 (they bought silver instead when bitcoin hit parity).   Wait, what has silver done in the last 5 years?   :p



431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 04, 2017, 05:35:07 AM
Will there be an October distribution round?

Read the first post on the first page.
Read the website (byteball.org)
Search the thread on the same question.

Short answer - No.
432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 02, 2017, 02:19:43 PM
So.. how this "lets-make-the-rich-bastards-richer" coin is going?
Let me be clear - I won't buy something that others get for free.. in case if you're wondering why the volume on exchanges is so low Wink

About the same as it has for the last 10 months.  Why would you ask?

Let me be clear - I don't see that anyone asked you to buy them.

I remember people having the same thoughts on Bitcoin.  I was telling friends 6 years ago to buy it, and like you, they said, "Why buy something that people can just mine for free?"
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 30, 2017, 03:26:14 PM
Hey, I'd like to sell 2,5 GBB. Actually I wanted to held them but I need ETH, so I'd sell them if anyone is interested. PM please

Using an exchange is probably your fastest and safest way.  Or a converter like shapeshift or changelly.
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 27, 2017, 01:35:17 PM
Who are those lucky guys buying at this price? I'm jealous.

No need to be jealous.  You could join them.
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 26, 2017, 03:25:18 AM

What are the use cases for a full node, if the lite node is sufficient for most of the byteball activities? Is it possible to bootstrap the full node with a separate download of the 10GB files, like many other wallets do?

Lite is sufficient for most cases.  Full node is considered better for privacy in the same way a bitcoin full node is (so to speak).  Full node has a very few reasons to be run.

There is not a bootstrap capability that I know of; but....

You can find someone that has a full node synced and:

1) willing to make a backup so that you could restore.  Then, you could delete the user data in order to restart as a full node in which is creates a new wallet which is already synced.
or
2) willing to zip up the directory (except the user data).  Then you could start the app and select full node.

In either case, the above (backup or zip) will take 2GB of space compressed.
436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 26, 2017, 02:04:53 AM
Even after three weeks, Wallet synchronization will not end.

Is there a solution?

You picked a full node.  This means is has to sync the entire dag.
It is currently 10GB in size.

You know where it is at since byteball tells you where in time the dag has downloaded.

Unless you have a specific reason for using a full node, I would suggest you use a lite mode.
- If you don't have blackbytes in the process of going to your address then simply delete the data folder and then restart the app choosing lite client (default)
- If you do have bytes, then it's easy to convert to a new wallet using lite mode.

Now the current price are without any manipulation by those whales which were pumping as long as distribution was going on. I see these price as true value where the project will take off gradually which is far more better than what was happening during last few months. There is no speculation right now but this is showing more seriousness and long term benefits to be watched now.

Do you mean the price is more reflective of the true value without whale manipulation?

There is nothing like true value in the world of money, but only market value. Surely, whale manipulation is one of the elements of a market that can drive prices up and down in markets with a limited liquidity. Perhaps whales could be manipulating the price now dumping to buy Bytes cheaper, who knows...

Whales can easily manipulate the market; however, don't think it's related simply to byteball or simply markets with limited liquidity (although easier), it is done with all cryptos.

437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 23, 2017, 06:50:28 PM
The big holders sold to invest the money in other projects and then buy back in time to participate again in November.

I would agree in a sense.

Most people think it's the BTC whales that got BB to dump it; however, I partially disagree.

It didn't take a year to realize the price was pumping right before a distribution and dumping right after.  So, it was easy to see that you could purchase balls a day or two after the distribution at a cheap price knowing you could dump it right before the next distribution for far more than you paid.

So, I feel the price movement was mostly those people timing the market (not really a price manipulation).

Others also tried to time it exactly to the point within minutes of what they thought was the snapshot to get the 20% bonus just to dump their balls at the peak only to find out they sold just prior to the snapshot.  Amazing how many of those people came to slack to complain that they didn't get free balls; however, they did make out on peak pricing by selling.

It you're gonna try to take advantage of the market to get free money, then the very least you can do is read on how the distribution works instead of complaining about how you thought it worked.

(This post is not directed at BitcoinArsenal - Just a comment)
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 23, 2017, 02:10:30 PM

wow...the keys are constantly rotated? how long the keys rotate? if I change the dves the keys will rotate? if this is the case how can I make sure my coin safety? do not change dves? constantlty backup?

I think dves means hubs.

You will not lose bytes by changing hubs.  You can change all you want and never worry about losing bytes.

If you change hubs, you risk losing messages (like how private assets (blackbytes)) are sent.
Also, to ensure safety against losing blackbytes to be sent (like from a distribution)(other than simply not playing around by changing hubs), you can talk to the transition bot after you change hubs.

To prevent from losing blackbytes/assets you already have, then simply make full backups (not just a backup from of the seed).
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 22, 2017, 09:46:53 PM
Is there any use case of blackbytes
like where can i sell this blackbytes, unable to find any market of it

http://www.beeb-bot.com/

If you know you have blackbytes, then you have a wallet.  Trading can done directly within the wallet.  Not sure where you were looking, but you should first look around in the wallet itself at the features it has.
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 22, 2017, 12:50:22 AM
Great project technically sadly silly initial distributional method.

BTC whales are cruel masters but the project has such potential eventually their manipulation will become weaker. hodl in tough times.

chopping the top 2% of btc wallets without announcement on the first drops would have helped a lot.

I think you should take a look at the top 500 addresses.
Most of them are still within the top 500.
https://byteball.fr/Top500ByteballRichest.php

Meaning, few whales dumped for profit (and those that did are welcome to do so).  I know, because I watch the list to see where I move around based on others buying and selling.  I am on the list (maybe even a few times), but I have never sold a single byte that I received from the distribution (although I've given plenty away for free myself).

People who had bitcoin and held them should be entitled to something.  They've proven they are in crypto for crypto and that they believe in it.  People joining this crypto just to get free money are mostly those that want it free just to dump it.

I agree with you..... hodl in tough times.    Watching the top addresses, you can see that most of them are doing the same thing.

Bytcoin is an exciting project to me, minus some of the distribution concerns, but i'm a crytpo nerd, i eat this stuff for breakfast.

 Can anyone explain to me why someone who doesn't use cryptocurrencies would start using byteball over the far more established projects out there?  The chat format is nice, but a chat program isn't really a draw without the network effect already in place. Who wants to convince their friends to use a new chat program.

Maybe bytecoin should team up with signal, an encrypted chat project which is open source. A kind of partnership with an established network if there could be a way to fuse the two could be a game changer.

This is not Bytecoin (that is a different alt).  This is Byteball.

If you mean Bitcoin, well..... Bitcoin doesn't have Chat, Assets, Bots (gambling, exchanges, insurance, smartcontracts, etc) all built within the client.

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