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October 01, 2017, 06:59:03 PM
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Defo more options for blackbytes needed. Monero has done very well due to its anonymity features. Blackbytes could do well also given more options for people to trade. From what i see we dont yet have byteballs anywhere but bittrex and couple other small exchanges.
I agree.

Changing from Blackbytes to Fiat is only possible with P2P.
However, it would now be urgently necessary to offer such a possibility.
Another important step would be the approach to a decentralized marketplace like "Open Bazaar". It should be able to pay directly with Blackbytes.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

just in case you guys didn't know it yet (i never posted it here).

The blackbyte exchange with the greatest volume is freebe. You can instandly sell and buy blackbytes there. Selling blackbytes is risk free (trustless) because of the used conditional payment.

Here are the latest statistics of freebe:

24h volume: 259 GBB
Best Ask: 0.0399 (50 GBB)
Best Bid: 0.0266 (100 GBB)
Total GBB wanted: 7144
Total GBB for sell: 970

All-Time traded GBB: 9925

For pairing information, help and live statistics visit: http://freebe.byte-ball.com/

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October 01, 2017, 07:27:29 PM
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OK, so a Segwit address is what a Nano is? And I would need to put my BTC back on my computer to participate in the airdrop. That is a great shame, as I really dont want to do that (or incur the high fees moving it there and back just for some free currency.)

I guess GBYTE has lost a supporter with this move and I will be selling my GBYTE holdings (not that I personally will make one jot of difference to the project overall) but I think it's pretty shortsighted of the developer of this coin to not support this other form of BTC address in the links. I was advised to move my holdings to a Nano because it was safer...

Hi, I realise that the next distribution is not planned until November but I have recently moved my BTC to a Nano S and was looking to relink my ByteBall wallet to this new address.
When I chatted to the transition bot and told it my new address I got an error:

"Only P2PKH addresses are supported".

I am new to this, and am not technically gifted. I did a quick google search but didnt really understand what it all meant.
Can anyone explain what I need to do and if it is possible to still link my wallets to participate in the next airdrop.

Thanks again for your help.


You cannot use segwit addresses as at this time it is not possible to sign messages with segwit addresses. Legacy btc addresses only.

It is not the developer of Byteball. The new segwit btc addresses are not compatible with signing messages at this time. It has nothing to do with Byteball. It has to do with btc segwit protocol.

Oh, I see. My apologies for jumping to conclusions and thank you for your advice and putting me straight. Do you advise I move my funds then, or is this likely to be sorted out at some point soon?

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As far as I know this is the only implemented proposal so far.

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October 01, 2017, 07:46:43 PM
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Defo more options for blackbytes needed. Monero has done very well due to its anonymity features. Blackbytes could do well also given more options for people to trade. From what i see we dont yet have byteballs anywhere but bittrex and couple other small exchanges.
I agree.

Changing from Blackbytes to Fiat is only possible with P2P.
However, it would now be urgently necessary to offer such a possibility.
Another important step would be the approach to a decentralized marketplace like "Open Bazaar". It should be able to pay directly with Blackbytes.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

just in case you guys didn't know it yet (i never posted it here).

The blackbyte exchange with the greatest volume is freebe. You can instandly sell and buy blackbytes there. Selling blackbytes is risk free (trustless) because of the used conditional payment.

Here are the latest statistics of freebe:

24h volume: 259 GBB
Best Ask: 0.0399 (50 GBB)
Best Bid: 0.0266 (100 GBB)
Total GBB wanted: 7144
Total GBB for sell: 970

All-Time traded GBB: 9925

For pairing information, help and live statistics visit: http://freebe.byte-ball.com/
Is this a new exchange for trading black bytes? Is there any fees for making a trade in your exchange?
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October 01, 2017, 07:48:07 PM
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Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

blackbytes are too unwieldy to use. i like the idea but the manual pairing thing and backup needed every time isn't practical. it needs to be smoother to use.
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October 01, 2017, 07:59:52 PM
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just in case you guys didn't know it yet (i never posted it here).

The blackbyte exchange with the greatest volume is freebe
Where does freebe get it's users, if you've never posted here?

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October 01, 2017, 08:06:55 PM
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Is this a new exchange for trading black bytes? Is there any fees for making a trade in your exchange?

actually freebe is the oldest blackbyte exchange (well there are only 2). It's also the only exchange where you can trade in both ways (sell/buy).
There is no Fee for trade creators. 0.5% Fees for takers.

It all began with a global chat room for the byteball app and now its not only that but also a big blackbyte exchange Smiley


just in case you guys didn't know it yet (i never posted it here).

The blackbyte exchange with the greatest volume is freebe
Where does freebe get it's users, if you've never posted here?

I'm posting mainly on slack and reddit. Right now >1000 users are connected to freebe and more that 10.000 GBB are already exchanged!

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October 01, 2017, 08:40:53 PM
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@ pxrunes
I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

blackbytes are too unwieldy to use. i like the idea but the manual pairing thing and backup needed every time isn't practical. it needs to be smoother to use.
Automatic pairing during the payment process via a decentralized trading platform such as Open Bazaar should be absolutely feasible.


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October 01, 2017, 08:41:49 PM
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Question: When selling Byteballs (that I got from airdrops) using the chatbot aren't the corresponding bitcoins received very anonymous? If this is the case that actually adds some more value to byteballs since the airdropps can be used as mixers in a sense. Am I totally wrong here? I'm obv not asking this since I'm looking to do bad stuff I'm asking since I see added anonymous value in the process.

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October 01, 2017, 08:50:28 PM
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Question: When selling Byteballs (that I got from airdrops) using the chatbot aren't the corresponding bitcoins received very anonymous? If this is the case that actually adds some more value to byteballs since the airdropps can be used as mixers in a sense. Am I totally wrong here? I'm obv not asking this since I'm looking to do bad stuff I'm asking since I see added anonymous value in the process.

yes. also you do not need to pair up with your trading partner anymore. Only one connection (to freebe for example) is necessary. Although some people might find add that the exchange now knows several peers who are exchanging blackbytes.
But it should also be added that the exchange does not have much information (not even your IP adress or anything). Although blackbytes can not be tracked ones they left the own wallet.

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I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.

What costs? The transaction fees are minimal. The exchange rate is not really a cost its the ratio or price of blackbytes and would be the same on euro exchanges.

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I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.
What costs? The transaction fees are minimal. The exchange rate is not really a cost its the ratio or price of blackbytes and would be the same on euro exchanges.
I can't expect my customers to change their €uros to Bitcoin first, then to Bytes and Bytes to Blackbytes.

Please focus a little more on reality.  Wink


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I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.
What costs? The transaction fees are minimal. The exchange rate is not really a cost its the ratio or price of blackbytes and would be the same on euro exchanges.
I can't expect my customers to change their €uros to Bitcoin first, then to Bytes and Bytes to Blackbytes.

Please focus a little more on reality.  Wink

Sorry i actually don't know what you are trying to do. But if you have customers and they want blackbytes for euros, why dont you just sell them blackbytes for euroes? You could buy them for bytes/bitcoins, not to much trouble, is it?

But sure i agree whould be cool to have blackbytes/bytes on an euro exchange. but this will definitifly not happen with blackbytes because of its private asset nature.

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October 01, 2017, 09:11:13 PM
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Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

blackbytes are too unwieldy to use. i like the idea but the manual pairing thing and backup needed every time isn't practical. it needs to be smoother to use.

If you use a multidevice wallet, your wallet data are replicated on 2 or more devices. So you always have a backup up-to-date as long as you didn't lose all your devices.

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I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.
What costs? The transaction fees are minimal. The exchange rate is not really a cost its the ratio or price of blackbytes and would be the same on euro exchanges.
I can't expect my customers to change their €uros to Bitcoin first, then to Bytes and Bytes to Blackbytes.

Please focus a little more on reality.  Wink

Sorry i actually don't know what you are trying to do. But if you have customers and they want blackbytes for euros, why dont you just sell them blackbytes for euroes? You could buy them for bytes/bitcoins, not to much trouble, is it?

But sure i agree whould be cool to have blackbytes/bytes on an euro exchange. but this will definitifly not happen with blackbytes because of its private asset nature.
There are indeed traders who want to sell normal goods.  Wink
I would like to sell them against Blackbytes, but of course my customers have to be able to buy them themselves with as little energy as possible.

Blackbytes should allow easy automatic pairing via a P2P trading platform, similar to BISQ.
So it would be possible to exchange blackbytes for €uro, USD... directly.


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October 02, 2017, 02:59:04 AM
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Hey, I'd like to sell 2,5 GBB. Actually I wanted to held them but I need ETH, so I'd sell them if anyone is interested. PM please

Using an exchange is probably your fastest and safest way.  Or a converter like shapeshift or changelly.


Good idea, if blackbytes would be on exchanges  Cheesy

There is www.beeb-bot.com
How about a bot capable of exchanging Bytes and Blackbytes for Fiat? How this works can be seen in BISQ (https://bisq.network).

Defo more options for blackbytes needed. Monero has done very well due to its anonymity features. Blackbytes could do well also given more options for people to trade. From what i see we dont yet have byteballs anywhere but bittrex and couple other small exchanges.
I agree.

Changing from Blackbytes to Fiat is only possible with P2P.
However, it would now be urgently necessary to offer such a possibility.
Another important step would be the approach to a decentralized marketplace like "Open Bazaar". It should be able to pay directly with Blackbytes.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

How to trade Blackbytes to FIAT? Is it technically feasible?
You know China closed the exchanges and the P2P between crypto coins and FIAT is demanded.
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October 02, 2017, 06:05:00 AM
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So.. how this "lets-make-the-rich-bastards-richer" coin is going?
Let me be clear - I won't buy something that others get for free.. in case if you're wondering why the volume on exchanges is so low Wink
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October 02, 2017, 06:22:54 AM
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Hey, I'd like to sell 2,5 GBB. Actually I wanted to held them but I need ETH, so I'd sell them if anyone is interested. PM please

Using an exchange is probably your fastest and safest way.  Or a converter like shapeshift or changelly.


Good idea, if blackbytes would be on exchanges  Cheesy

There is www.beeb-bot.com
How about a bot capable of exchanging Bytes and Blackbytes for Fiat? How this works can be seen in BISQ (https://bisq.network).

Defo more options for blackbytes needed. Monero has done very well due to its anonymity features. Blackbytes could do well also given more options for people to trade. From what i see we dont yet have byteballs anywhere but bittrex and couple other small exchanges.
I agree.

Changing from Blackbytes to Fiat is only possible with P2P.
However, it would now be urgently necessary to offer such a possibility.
Another important step would be the approach to a decentralized marketplace like "Open Bazaar". It should be able to pay directly with Blackbytes.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

How to trade Blackbytes to FIAT? Is it technically feasible?
You know China closed the exchanges and the P2P between crypto coins and FIAT is demanded.

The only way to do is by trading blackbytes to bytes and then bytes to bitcoin and then to fiat. There are couple of trading bots available for trading blackbytes to bytes.
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October 02, 2017, 06:36:29 AM
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[reminder]

Announcing BEEB - Blackbytes Escrow Exchange Bot - web front end.

Instant-buy and sell batches of Blackbytes 24h/24h, 7 days a week.
(you don't need to find a peer anymore: the bot is the peer!)
Trading blackbytes on BEEB is anonymous.


Includes:
Blackbytes price and volume graphical history,
24h volume,
current best ask,
detailed help menu,
API interface to Blackbytes prices and market history.


Support: https://byteball.slack.com/ #beeb channel


Byteball payment gateway for web merchants https://byteball-for-merchants.com/ - BEEB  (Blackbytes Exchange Bot): https://www.beeb-bot.com/ (closed)
Network map, stats, Top Richests and Byteball world map at https://byteball.fr/ (closed) - Hub operator featuring the cashback witness https://byteball-cashback-witness.com (closed)
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Last edit: October 02, 2017, 08:35:07 AM by Seeder
 #14078

Hey, I'd like to sell 2,5 GBB. Actually I wanted to held them but I need ETH, so I'd sell them if anyone is interested. PM please

Using an exchange is probably your fastest and safest way.  Or a converter like shapeshift or changelly.


Good idea, if blackbytes would be on exchanges  Cheesy

There is www.beeb-bot.com
How about a bot capable of exchanging Bytes and Blackbytes for Fiat? How this works can be seen in BISQ (https://bisq.network).

Defo more options for blackbytes needed. Monero has done very well due to its anonymity features. Blackbytes could do well also given more options for people to trade. From what i see we dont yet have byteballs anywhere but bittrex and couple other small exchanges.
I agree.

Changing from Blackbytes to Fiat is only possible with P2P.
However, it would now be urgently necessary to offer such a possibility.
Another important step would be the approach to a decentralized marketplace like "Open Bazaar". It should be able to pay directly with Blackbytes.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

How to trade Blackbytes to FIAT? Is it technically feasible?
Surely this would be possible, even if some people here constantly claim that this is not possible.

BISQ shows how it works. Only some modifications for blackbytes are needed.

Edit:
@ innergy
As soon as this currency has a utility value, it is also in demand (see DASH and Monero).
Keywords:
- Open Bazaar
- Changing Bytes/Blackbytes directly to €uro, USD, .... (P2P, see BISQ)


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October 02, 2017, 09:50:22 AM
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(since my rank is to low you have to manually click the image above (its a chart!))


Time to celebrate!

Yesterday we reached two milestones at ones at #freebe! We now have >1000 users and >10.000 GBB total volume exchanged! Thats amazing thanks to the whole community for your trust!


Here are the current statistics from #freebe:

  • 24h volume: 244 GBB
  • Last Trade: 100 GBB at: 0.0298

  • Best Ask: 0.0398
  • Best BID: 0.03
  • Total GBB wanted: 7209
  • Total GBB for sale: 1015

As usual pairing information and live data available at: http://freebe.byte-ball.com

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October 02, 2017, 09:53:02 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/dE7rSSw.png

(since my rank is to low you have to manually click the image above (its a chart!))


Time to celebrate!

Yesterday we reached two milestones at ones at #freebe! We now have >1000 users and >10.000 GBB total volume exchanged! Thats amazing thanks to the whole community for your trust!


Here are the current statistics from #freebe:

  • 24h volume: 244 GBB
  • Last Trade: 100 GBB at: 0.0298

  • Best Ask: 0.0398
  • Best BID: 0.03
  • Total GBB wanted: 7209
  • Total GBB for sale: 1015

As usual pairing information and live data available at: http://freebe.byte-ball.com

That is great news.
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