Don't worry people GPUs are here to stay, I have been saying this for some time despite all the negativity and FPGA and ASICs hype.
They have many use cases outside pure hashing. New markets for them are emerging and algos like ProgPoW will give them new life.
And we also have XMR devs which I admire for their dedication.
Yeah fluffly and the xmr devs are a model to follow |
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Just saw the price of ETN is .0234 WTF happened??
It was only .015 when I started to mine right after they UNFORKED.
Shoots that doorstop theory to hell. Although that was dead already when they went back to cryptonight!
Lmao. A little pump on a 200 mil market cap coin and you get all excited? This is just a walk in the park for traders. Prolly just one small group for such a little pump. Trying to sucker more in I see. Markets are something I’m seeing as a huge circle jerk. Which rich bratty kid gonna make it out on top. Bs pump stories and fake news to manipulate minds. I’m wondering when ole trump will go after that fake news lmao. I’ve said it before I’ll say it again what a shit show.  . Capitalism is for the crazy. All this nonsense just to make a buck. Sure seems like a lot of hoops to jump through. Anyway one can only beat a dead horse for so long BR money begets more money its the age old adage, they pump coins cuz they already have millions, probably didn’t even cost a million to move ETN |
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I think we should not forget that IF one day some Entity or Government tries to stop Crypto because it has gotten out of control, than it would be SO easy to track ASIC farms , Networks (aka Crypto's) would get rekt. We should continue striving for GPU's to do our voting so there will always be people all over the globe securing the network!
This is one of the main reasons why most of us joined Crypto in the first place. Decentralized remember guys?
absolutely 1gpu = 1 vote 1 vote!! vivia la gpu!! |
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we might have a winner here, switched over a bunch of rigs unstable undr claymore and the run greaat under your new kernal. The powersavings is legit too 1 to 2% per rig
also got better stability and constant hash rate on my furys too!!
this is your best release phoniex team , i have 300 amd card im switching over as we speak
any cance you can create a progpow miner , i suspect eth will be switching ovee some time next year
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Here is some info I got, but still testing.... check out the Reddit post. Just sharing my info, I welcome insight, coaching and recommendations to get the best info for the community. I done some more testing, per other miners request on specific algos, and below the link to reddit is today's testing. https://www.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/9ixng5/rtx_2080_mining_hashrateperformance/I will continue to update the threads as soon as I can. Thank you, SerpentXSF CMVJAX great review finally 2080 looks like a bust, power draw is barely better than a 70% powlimit 1080ti. I suspect the 2080ti is the only card worth buying in that class but not even for that price |
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Hi all,
I am switching my 280's from zec to xmr. Anyone recommend a good pool?
thanks
support xmr is best , nano pool are theives |
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GPU mining just needs good self-modifying hashing algo to prevent ASICs and some top coins to adopt it. GPU miners have proven to provide nice distribution and resistance to botnet mining abuse.
This probably won't be the case. Take Bitcoin or Litecoin for example, they have only ASICs running the networks and it's been fine for the last few years. The centralization issue only occurs if there is one ASIC manufacturer who refuses to distribute their miners and mines with most of the hashrate like everyone assumed Bitmain did back in 2017 with the whole Segwit mess. However if there are many manufactures of ASICs and they are properly priced where many end retail users buy them for home use around the world then there is no centralization issue anymore. Hence the reason why BTC or LTC didn't change their algo in the past as ASICs came in. again u make no sense, why do you keep posting this nonsense, ltc and btc is all centralized asic mining unless you have near free power its unprofitable to mine which puts it out of reach for home or small even midsize miners. The networks are OWNED by bitmain and other colluding asic miners who not only sell the shovels but own the biggest mines, theres no central group in either algo to challenge them like they should by changing algo like xmr did so how could a switch be accomplished lolol?! what the fuck do u mean an algo switch was not made because its fine?! lol the foxes are in the hen house why would they leavr now?!. just stop posting man u must think we are blind deaf and dumb stop it |
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Would like to know some hash rate on the trendy algo like x16r, x16s, x17 etc. No wonder my profit is dropping like juice.  yeah fpgas are killing those algos, cant wait for the xmr fork or more progpow forks |
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Why you reduce the PL Limit on RX570? This is stupid. Lower Voltage and not the PL Every RX570 can run 1250 on gpu core with 0,9 vgpu. what do you mean by 0,9? most of my rx are moddes to like 1130 core ,850mv 1875 mem , 925mv they are great at cn 7 and eth, but horrible at progpow. I max at like 8mhs and unstable as hell I have mem straps modded too |
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...ignoring the fact it's a very power hungry algo.
You know that the power depends on the voltage, right? Lower the power limit to 50% on nvidia or lower the voltage/core clock on amd and it'll draw less than ethereum. Nobody is forcing you to run at max power level, especially when the efficiency of hash/watt decreases with the power draw. Lyra2z can still be mined at the original power level. You can simply lift the limit up and it'll hash more. ProgPow and most other core-based algorithms scale perfectly well with core count and doesn't have these weird discrepancies where a weak card (RX 570) hashes as much as a twice more expensive one (GTX 1070). That way you can get 2x more performance from 2x more expensive card, so it just balances it out. RX 570 and 580 will be as powerful as GTX 1060 3 and 6GB. Vega 56/64 will be as powerful as GTX 1070/1070Ti. Yes, there are algorithms where AMD or NVIDIA are still better, but right now we're focusing on ProgPow. I think you missed the point. Of course you can lower the power limit on ProgPow. I'm doing just that with my Vega cards for example. I need to drop it by 30% to keep a rig of six Vega64's under 1400W... Which unfortunately it has a large impact on the hashrate. So it might improve your efficiency (slightly) but not enough to make it remarkably more profitable. On RX 570's dropping PL by only 10% radically lowers hashrate and it worsens as you go lower. @dragonmike ? are your vegas modded with power play tables etc ? I have 8 vegas and they are all modded voltages are like 850 to 800 for thr core and they pull no more than 160 to 180 watts even on x16 , progpow and like 140 watts on cn forks . vegas must be power play modded with that spreadsheet unless you have refernce card which has a power play mod floating around. I never even touch the power limit on any of my amd cards, it’s overdriven tool for my rx cards and powerplay plus overdriven for the vegas. My vegas are my best mining cards hash/watt. btw why is there no power play mod for rx cards? |
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to expensive for now, i prefer gtx 1070Ti less power consumsion but still power full for mining, since many coin show up its make me confuse choose coin for more profitable
The best ROI is 1060(3Gb) the most powerful - 1080ti, the most optimal - 1070. 1070ti and 1060(6Gb) never were the best choice for mining. Choose your own optimal option. Nowdays is not the best time to buy new cards, profit is too small but there are many used GPU that cost nice. The thing is that the moment the ROI seems good, it's already too late!  there are more and more coins mineable by ASIC. So be careful when buying GPU. It is so funny! Actually be careful when buying ASIC. With GPU you will have chance to mine 2000+ coins by far. You're missing a very important parameter though... Maybe on January you could mine 2000+ coins but now you can mine 200+ and while new ASICs are being made less coins are available to GPU miners. That results in more miners being squeezed in few coins, sends the difficulty to the sky and destroys the profit. We're being pushed aside by the ASIC developers and GPU miners keep mining whatever coin gives them 0.01$ more, I believe this is harming us all because we could instead support ASIC-resistant coins. I know that no algo is 100% ASIC-resistant, but if a dev team promises to keep changing to new, custom hashing algorithms when they spot ASICs in the network, then that's ASIC-resistance! The only two coins I know that promise that are XDNA and Renesis. Renesis doesn't have a trading exchange yet so that's a high risk coin to support, but XDNA is traded in Cryptopia & CB and has already forked away from the first algo to protect GPU miners. Bit coin interest has forked off too to progpow, also a bit risky , no real exchange yet supposedly xmr is forking for a second time in october and a few others are too, its not all doom and gloom |
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stop fucking comparing the 2080 to the 1080 , no one who is fucking sane would buy a 1080 vs a 1080ti
when the 1080ti costs LESS than the 2080 and performs better than the 1080 by alot.
where are these idoit newbies coming from benching a 1080 , no one gives a fuck about a 1080 if they are even considering a 2080... not GAMERS or MINERS. NOONE
stop it with these bullshit 1080 benches
It's probably because the 2080 is easier to get at the moment, so people think that the best comparison would be with the 1080. However your point is valid, I'm just saying what I think people are thinking!  Um no in the usa at least you can buy 1080tis all day for $729 or less https://m.newegg.com/ProductList/keywordsearch?keyword=1080ticheaper used if you go on amazon, there are plenty of 1080tis available so its not that I really don’t understand the logic @dragonmike exactly , its like the forum has gone full retard? Ethhash? on Nividia ? Even 1080tis with the pill are not even mining ethash algos eith ethereum being under $300 |
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Monero deposits and withdrawals are disabled on a few major exchanges and daemons are catching fire even more frequently than usual... Is this the end of the world?
More like minor exchanges. Yesterday I was checking and Poloniex is 40th exchange by monthly volume now. Things in exchange worlds changes fast. I like that since that mean that Monero will keep on getting listed on new major exchanges what going on with xmr wallets ?
Which wallet are you using and what is the problem? Cryptopias wallet has been down all week, mu coins are stuck in there , polo and a few other were down too. must be related to the burn bug |
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volume goes from 8k a day to 100k in a day on HiBtc with. o news?
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stop fucking comparing the 2080 to the 1080 , no one who is fucking sane would buy a 1080 vs a 1080ti
when the 1080ti costs LESS than the 2080 and performs better than the 1080 by alot.
where are these idoit newbies coming from benching a 1080 , no one gives a fuck about a 1080 if they are even considering a 2080... not GAMERS or MINERS. NOONE
stop it with these bullshit 1080 benches
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Given the huge price point of these GPUs, I am wondering if Nvidia will have issues getting them sold for gaming uses.
Basically there are tons of 1070,1080,1080ti on the market right now. Probably more will hit the market in one month when ETH reduces its block reward from 3 to 2 ETH.
I am pretty sure a gamer is better off buying 2x of the 1080 second hand rather than a new 2080ti and just SLI them together. It would use more power sure, but since its a gaming rig it doesn't get used constantely so power shouldn't be an issue.
For mining, its definately not worth it. Since there are tons of second hand RX 470/570 going for cheap on eBay right now.
ppl are not buying nvidia gear to mine eth , Ive not mined it even with my 1070s for like 5 months and don’t use that dumb eth has so many gpus on it arguments either. 50 to 60 percent of eth and eth forks hash is asic based , it barely afffected us when eth dropped to $170 cuz we haven’t been mining it anyways |
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I sold a few GPUs recently on eBay and fucking PayPal held my money after confirmed delivery (and positive feedback) for 10+ days because they said "there was a lot of fradulent activity" in the graphics card market, so I had to just wait for them to "release" my money in my account. After a chat with eBay support - the funds were released.
Never sell this sort of equipment on ebay. They always side in the buyers favor. Those who are buying can play and say they did not receive the item and usually ebay&paypal will hold the money until they investigate has concluded and most of the time they believe the buyer who can just say they didn't receive anything. Then they have your graphics cards and their money back after just waiting 10+ days. That is a messed up system they have their with ebay acting as "escrow". Might as well put them up on the marketplace board here and let the devoted miners here pick what they need so to keep the mining community alive. Here is the computer hardware/mining equipment thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0Yes I completely agree with this. This always generally happens during a huge mining boom and then bust. Basically the best time to sell mining gear is when you have the highest chances of getting scammed on eBay. Many people bought GPUs for over MSRP during January of this year. Because they assumed "$10/day today and $10/day in 6 months". Then they learned about difficulty and are calling Bitcoin and Mining a scam. So they want their money back. They basically file a claim saying "GPU is broken" and want a full refund. And not only that they want their shipping back and you are also charged the back shipping of the GPU. Best way is to sell these locally on Criagslist and meet in some public area. Tell the seller the truth they were mined with but they are free to test GPU prior to purchase. Most will agree. Too many lowballers on craiglists, I tired to sell vega 56s like 2-3 months old and ppl wanted to pay 350 , plus half the time they get mad when you refuse to give your gear away. Honestly i sugges holding your gear till the next mining boom and mining with some of it at break even prices. Selling GPU's in this market is a POS |
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what going on with xmr wallets ?
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China only buys like $120 billion from us , so in the long run tarrifs hurt them more. They will have to come to the table by mid 2019. First the tariffs hurts US consumers who have no domestically produced alternatives to choose from. The reduced consumption will hurt US retailers before they hurt Chinese producers. I's a comical misconception that China will pay the tariffs to the US government  See it as a 25% sales tax instead... Grey importing Chinese goods trough Taiwan, or even Europe? I work for myself and what I do is a physically demanding job and what I see is the problems is Americans are lazy now people don't even want to get off their ass to grocery shop now plus everyone wants to make $100 a hr and sit on theirs ass to do it with the best benefits and 200 days paid off shit is out of control we don't produce anymore cause no one wants to work thats the problem its not China or Vietnam, I can't even find a 18 yr old kid that want's to do anything besides plant their face into a cell phone or ps4 americans actually work more than other first world countries , more hours etc He's just old, tired, and out of shape, thinking that this is America in the hardcore industrial revolution days again. I'm 34 years old. When I was a teenager, I had plenty of physically demanding jobs that I was paid shit for, but I was also planting my face in the screen of a commodore 64 at age 12. At age 14/15/16/17 it was the screen of a WIN95, WIN98, LINUX computer. Or planting my face inside of one looking at the hardware. By the age of 18, I didn't need a physically demanding job. There were plenty of information technology jobs that paid well enough. Some of those jobs were hauling around pc's and crt monitors and setting them up for client's (which was a bit physical), and that was crappy, but it was a start. Between formal continuing education and self taught education as a teenager, I have been very successful in the information technology industry (planting my face into a screen) over the past 14 years. There is a huge difference between planting yourself into the screen of angry birds and planting yourself into a screen that contains the knowledge that will help you build a better future. You don't have to move thousands of pounds of rocks around to be successful. Everyone shops for grocery's unless they don't eat or only eat out. Most people don't make 100$/hour or even close to it. And no one gets 200/365 vacation days per year. I feel lucky to have 4 weeks of paid time off per year. Exactly , if you are doing a physically demanding back breaking job that is because you CHOSE that path. Most of us don't need to do work like that because this is America not some 3rd world country there are wide range of jobs, be it construction, architecture , and tech sector jobs for all comers. I agree , there is a huge shortage of workers for IT jobs like web design, mobile app design and even SKILLED manufacturing techs who can handle robot operating systems and make sure , Americans are not Lazy , we just work smarter and are general such a well educated work force becase the country is tech driven so you have to be adaptable. Check the stats , Americans get two weeks of vacation on average vs a month in other developed countries, way less time off so we actually are a more productive work force overall and we get paid shit for all that extra productivity unless you are management/CEO level. Thats why we are into crypto since it is an alternative to the top heaving work system we have now. |
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For example:
A problem will be solved in many ways.
Most of us will solve in the most popular way.
But there are still very quick and much shorter solutions
so:
blockchain, tool, pool..what we will think about how.
I'm talking about most of us are using claymore to dig up ethereum.
How do people perceive it?
I hate these Digging threads , its mining wtf we don't dig in the dirt |
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