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4981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: April 04, 2019, 10:16:59 PM
Well I think this thread is a perfect proof.

I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.

Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.

The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.

Cheers.

world is asymetric, nazis hated communists because nazis wanted to controll the money, and not have communists controll it.

Communism is the authority allowing you to profit. Capitalism is you having profits from your own authority.

Don't bother engaging with him, he can't even keep consistent with his own ideologies and he is just too woke for the rest of us mere mortals to even understand. In his mind Communism is flat, Russia can't melt steel beams, and China is ruled by Capitalist gay frogs.
4982  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: April 04, 2019, 05:50:31 PM
Oh look, here we are months later an all the same bad actors in control of the trust system again, only more of them. Much better.

The Administration isn't blind, but they are busy.  I assume at some point they will step in if things continue to go this way.  Personally, I'm hoping that once DT fills up, the older more knowledgeable members of the forum will be given precedence in the system by their userID.  It's really blatantly obvious that the new users are working hard to gain control by teaming up to damage the reputation of anyone they feel stands in their way.  When I look at my trust settings list, nearly all the older members are included, while nearly all the newer members are excluded.  This goes way beyond coincidence.

At this point I am just leaning towards getting rid of the default trust entirely as at this point is is nothing but a system of ball-washing, not a system to show who is trustworthy. It has always from day one been vulnerable to abuse by a small handful of individuals, now they don't even have to explain themselves and they just stack up exclusions of anyone who is critical of them.
4983  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: April 04, 2019, 05:34:22 PM
Oh look, here we are months later an all the same bad actors in control of the trust system again, only more of them. Much better.
4984  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: April 04, 2019, 12:18:21 PM
Well I think this thread is a perfect proof.

I was trying to make peace between commies and nazis. I even sent apologies and peace messages in PM. The result is just another agression without any legitimacy from the nazi.

Thanks TECSHARE for showing that extreme right is just too stupid to take an opportunity when they see it.

The most amazing thing is that you don't even seem to understand what you're saying but well...
It seems the only possibility will be to kill each other while letting the bankers rule. As you're clearly rejecting any peace offer and insulting me as soon as you have the chance.

Cheers.

What fucking opportunity? The opportunity to be fake friends with you so you can get me to turn a blind eye to the ideology responsible for hundreds of millions dead over the past century? Love how since you are the Communist I must automatically be the Nazi and extreme right, but you go ahead and tell me some more about not having legitimacy why don't you. I don't need your "peace offer", and until you are willing to have a debate based on logic instead of your feelings you are a danger to the world spreading your ideological cancer. You see you don't want peace, you want submission to your ideology as the price of this "peace". That is never going to happen. I don't give a fuck about your friendship, you are spreading dangerous ideologies and people need to see the total absence of logic in them before it is too late. Conflict doesn't bother me, mindless Commies spreading their aborted thought process do. You run away from the actual debate now telling yourself you have the moral high ground, because that is all you are capable of.
4985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Mark Zuckerberg wants no privacy on: April 04, 2019, 12:09:26 PM
It doesn't store your passwords, just all of your contacts without permission. https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-asks-new-users-email-passwords-2019-4?r=US&IR=T
4986  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 04, 2019, 05:57:24 AM

....
By comparison, Fox News primetime hosts Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham had record weeks for 2019. Carlson averaged 3.5 million viewers and 625,000 in the demo (both record-breaking), while Ingraham got nearly 3 million viewers and the second highest-rated demo for the year (504,000). Sean Hannity had higher ratings than his Fox News colleagues but he did not best previous records for the week.

https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/02/rachel-maddow-ratings-mueller-conclusion/

Fox sure isn't so damn great but compared to Rachael MadCow....

None of them are.

The status quo is fighting hard against their replacement: all of us here right now (beside the scammers and other evil entities)...


Faux News is just the same shit sandwich only with a little red food coloring in it. They have a handful of good people but they are all on leashes that only go so far.
4987  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New York State Rockland County Bans Unvaccinted Kids From All Public Places on: April 04, 2019, 05:55:36 AM
Yes, I brought up immigration, and? I brought it up because it is the real cause of these outbreaks but everyone is so afraid of being politically incorrect everyone denies it even when the numbers clearly support this premise. The tiny minority of "antivaxxers" are simply being used as a scapegoat, a distraction, and another incremental infringement of human rights that the Fabians trying to take over our nation are oh so fond of.

I suppose it is just a coincidence that xenophobia is a synonym of racism eh? No of course you didn't call me racist, you just used an interchangeable word with racism to label me. I don't care what you identify as, you are still spouting leftist Marxist rhetoric regardless if you know enough to recognize this or not. Most Socialists, Marxists, and Communists like to think they are some thing else anyway because that is how they work, via re-branding, deception, and infiltration, and it will always "be different this time". Unfortunately people are usually too ignorant of political theory, psychology, and history to know they are spouting Marxist ideologies.


OK

Great debate as usual.


Techshare,
I prefer to have conversations and make an effort to talk to people online the same way I would in real life.
Can't imagine standing in front of someone spouting off the way you do for too long.

Sometimes you have an interesting point of view, this post isn't one of those times...it's some regurgitated Alex Jones BS: not interested in that conversation.
The Rotary example wasn't antidotal.
You don't have debates; you have these pre-formed diatribes you want to have made up from the current political punditry.
There is no current political conversation being had anywhere right now that actually addresses immigration issues I'm not going to get into some non-sensical argument online over it.
You've got something to say about Muslims, how the Mexican Catholics are going to vote, on and on...
How many Muslims and Mexican Catholics do you actually know? I don't mean "know of" ... I mean people that matter to you.
Your signature in all caps is all anyone needs to know about you, you behave badly and complain about being treated badly.

"the Fabians trying to take over our nation are oh so fond of." <---see that's funny
Like when you compared socialism to a cocaine high  <---truly brilliant; I liked the analogy the first time I read in an article, although admittedly I appreciated your guttural version just a little more.

And I prefer to have a debate without the bullshit and dancing around peoples emotions because they can't handle facts. So tell me, if I am regurgitating political punditry, and there is no current political conversation being had anywhere right now that addresses immigration issues, what exactly am I regurgitating from? I am sorry your world view is limited to what those that own the media pre-approved for plebeian discussion, but that is not demonstrative of there being no legitimate discussion to be had. These are serious issues that sad little people who worry about feelings more than they do issues that can cause great physical suffering run away from.

You lack any logical argument so you need to fall back on character attacks, assumptions, and accusations. You don't know shit about me or why that sig is there, so save your breath. Or have a logic based debate where you don't rely on all that lazy bullshit and perhaps I will become just a teeny bit less caustic. Either way I have no need to be liked by or need approval from anyone so if you don't like the way I communicate don't interact with me. I am going to continue to take a sledghammer to bad ideas regardless of who's feefees it hurts because the world desperately needs people like me to do so.

The issue of uncontrolled immigration MUST be addressed, if it is not there will be no USA as we know it to speak of within the next 10 years because it will become the USSA, and some people would love that, which is why the real cause of these outbreaks must be obfuscated at all costs.
4988  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Mark Zuckerberg wants no privacy on: April 03, 2019, 08:46:55 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-03/zuckd-again-millions-facebook-records-found-amazon-cloud-servers
4989  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: April 03, 2019, 07:44:11 PM
Nice straw man. I never claimed those two things were the same. It is however a fact that the inheritance tax strips following generations of inheritance, no matter how full or how partial. Still waiting for you to argue against any of the other 10 planks...

First I've addressed all 10 planks here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125222.0
And already told you that. Not my fault if you don't read.

Second, your argument was NOT that inheritance tax partially strips following generations of inheritance. Otherwise I would have agreed with you.

Your point was that this plank was right, this plank being "Abolition of all rights of inheritance.". ALL RIGHTS.

ALL RIGHTS

You admitted yourself that inheritance tax is different from total taxation, that it strips only partially the family inheritance. Hence the situation is different from an abolition of ALL rights.

You say that
no matter how full or how partial.
But you're the one claiming all right of inheritance have been abolished.
Be consistent. Or be quite.


And by the way, your argument of "the family farm being lost after generations" is completely stupid. 99% of the time the family house or family farm or whatever would have to be divided between 3 children which means the only way to keep it in the family would be that 1 child buy back 66% of the house. Otherwise they'll have to sell it. So he should be able to afford the 20% tax...

Houses and farms were passed from generation to generation before because only the eldest son inherited them. This is no longer the case. Sorry, we're no longer in the 19th century.

Sorry, I am not submitting to your divisive selective removal of criticisms of your ideology from a thread directly addressing it. Either post it here or don't, but I am not participating in your self serving removal of topics from this thread.

No, my argument was:

Also if you actually take the time to look over The 10 Planks of Communism I think you will have to admit the world has largely adopted these policies, even if they have a different name for it. Additionally China is arguably the most important economy in the world, and they most certainly have goals for global Communism, and the resources and potential to achieve it. If you were to take a hard look at all of these facts I think you may agree.

Largely =/= completely. You are modifying my premise to more exclusive language and then demanding I defend the premise YOU created. This is a logical fallacy and not a refutation of my argument, it is a refutation of your argument. Also the concept that this no longer happens because not many are farmers any more is retarded because it applies equally to ANY large functioning enterprise left to ones children, the farm was simply an example.

Communism IS globalist in nature, and globalist Communist policies ARE in fact in the majority regardless of your fallacious denial of this fact. You are a tool for globalists and your own arrogance keeps you in this subservient position as a disposable tool for the people you claim you hate.
4990  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: April 03, 2019, 07:30:03 PM
[puts point in 40 point uppercase red letters, still keeps asking what my point is]

The problem with you is that you're not able to finish an idea or an argument.

So, under democracy minority has only the rights the majority accept to give them.

And? Where is the problem?

The problem is we are all individuals, and all the minority on SOME subject. The belief that you will be part of the majority is IMMENSELY stupid. In Democracy there are no individual protections for human rights because the majority can always vote to remove them and there is not a damned thing the minority can do. Furthermore most people aren't very smart and are too lazy to inform themselves on these subjects, as a result they are easily manipulated and lead around. The result is in the end individuals will have no human rights. If you don't see a problem with that then you are even more stupid than you look.
4991  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Mark Zuckerberg wants no privacy on: April 03, 2019, 04:33:21 PM
Does he have to start fingering your butthole while you sleep before you see the pattern here people?

https://boingboing.net/2019/04/03/facebook-caught-asking-for-new.html
4992  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela on: April 03, 2019, 12:39:19 AM
To our Venezuelan friends, I think this information may be very helpful in the times to come:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DlnAq5UAqY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10k-DPcLrHU

Hope it helps.
4993  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New York State Rockland County Bans Unvaccinted Kids From All Public Places on: April 03, 2019, 12:10:20 AM
Yes, I brought up immigration, and? I brought it up because it is the real cause of these outbreaks but everyone is so afraid of being politically incorrect everyone denies it even when the numbers clearly support this premise. The tiny minority of "antivaxxers" are simply being used as a scapegoat, a distraction, and another incremental infringement of human rights that the Fabians trying to take over our nation are oh so fond of.

I suppose it is just a coincidence that xenophobia is a synonym of racism eh? No of course you didn't call me racist, you just used an interchangeable word with racism to label me. I don't care what you identify as, you are still spouting leftist Marxist rhetoric regardless if you know enough to recognize this or not. Most Socialists, Marxists, and Communists like to think they are some thing else anyway because that is how they work, via re-branding, deception, and infiltration, and it will always "be different this time". Unfortunately people are usually too ignorant of political theory, psychology, and history to know they are spouting Marxist ideologies.


OK

Great debate as usual.
4994  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New York State Rockland County Bans Unvaccinted Kids From All Public Places on: April 02, 2019, 11:11:05 PM
So because I want the laws of my nation to be enforced, I don't want the people here to be infected with diseases, and I don't want all of our social systems to collapse under the weight of uncontrolled illegal immigration, and have our rights stripped I am a xenophobe? This continual autistic screeching from the left about racism, xenophobia, and victim status is so frequently and arbitrarily exploited it has literally become meaningless and made it that much harder to identify ACTUAL racists. Good job.

You have no argument so instead you are forced to resort to character attacks to pretend you have a point and pretend you are in a position of moral superiority. What about the immigrants already here who don't want their opportunities taken by this tidal wave of people from the 3rd world? Fuck them too right? Again, much like SaltySpitoon you are relying on the strawman of anti-vaccination in order to argue against the premise of preserving human and constitutional rights in favor of removing informed consent for medical treatment. I am not against vaccination, I am against COMPULSORY vaccination.

I didn't bring up immigration but it seems to be an argument you want to have: even if it's only with yourself...have at it.
Didn't call you a racist and thought what I said was very direct and clear.
I'm not a leftist or on the right and for sure have --zero- claim to moral superiority.

Your own words are the only things on this forum capable of character attacks against you.

Yes, I brought up immigration, and? I brought it up because it is the real cause of these outbreaks but everyone is so afraid of being politically incorrect everyone denies it even when the numbers clearly support this premise. The tiny minority of "antivaxxers" are simply being used as a scapegoat, a distraction, and another incremental infringement of human rights that the Fabians trying to take over our nation are oh so fond of.

I suppose it is just a coincidence that xenophobia is a synonym of racism eh? No of course you didn't call me racist, you just used an interchangeable word with racism to label me. I don't care what you identify as, you are still spouting leftist Marxist rhetoric regardless if you know enough to recognize this or not. Most Socialists, Marxists, and Communists like to think they are some thing else anyway because that is how they work, via re-branding, deception, and infiltration, and it will always "be different this time". Unfortunately people are usually too ignorant of political theory, psychology, and history to know they are spouting Marxist ideologies.
4995  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 02, 2019, 07:42:38 PM
Media calling them as terrorist so people are calling them too,terrorists might be from any religion and they aredoing crimes for their own benefits not for others so calling their whole religion as bad is not a right thing.

Sorry but Islam needs to start taking responsibility for its own house instead of just trying to take the house of others. Islam doesn't care about prejudice as long as they are the ones delivering it and the tolerant attitudes of the Western world are being exploited. This is the cost of not keeping your own house in order, eventually you pay a collective cost, right or wrong. Western society is very tolerant, until it is not, then Allah help you because no one else will.
4996  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New York State Rockland County Bans Unvaccinted Kids From All Public Places on: April 02, 2019, 07:33:06 PM
Sorry but building a nuclear reactor is not equivalent to a choice between bodily autonomy and freedom of movement. They are purposely building a very dangerous precedent to desensitize people to these kinds of actions.

I dont see why not. Its not about whether its a choice or not, its a matter of public risk. You have the right to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't infringe on others. The argument can be made that people that could become carriers for dangerous infectious diseases are a risk to others.

You don't have to be vaccinated, you can just move elsewhere. I can't build a reactor where I'm at, but I could move somewhere where I could potentially obtain a permit to do so.

Whats your take on lepers?

It is literally about that choice for some people. Kind of you to summarily dismiss the reality of the minority. After all, it is not like we live in a constitutional republic where the rights of the minority are protected by the constitution right? Do you really think this tiny minority of people who refuse to vaccinate for whatever reason are more of a threat than the thousands flooding in from our Southern border every month?

I find it interesting a lot of the same people cheering for the loss of individual rights in the name of temporary safety are also cheering for open borders. Of course when you point this out, instantly come the floods of accusations of racism and xenophobia, because of course infectious diseases care what race you are right? At what point does this obsession with taking the rights of others to provide temporary safety end? Is this not setting a dangerous precedent ripe for abuse in the very near future?

If you don't care for the floods of accusations and if you're not a xenophobe then stop acting like a xenophobe.



This whole Anti-Vax Vaxx issue has so many aspects to it:
How much freedom do we want to give up for safety?
How much should we interfere with a parents choice? Even when that choice puts someone else and even their own child at risk.
I am vaccinated for things in countries I may never see, my kid was vaxxed, my pets are always vaxxed- I personally believe in being vaccinated.
Why parents can't trust news outlets or even their doctors to make well informed decisions?  <---that is a problem all on its own right now

About 15 years ago Rotary almost hit a wall with the Polio vaccination. People didn't want to be vaccinated anymore or let their children be vaccinated.
A lot of it was mis-information combined with the fact that Polio was at that point almost eradicated so not only were people afraid of the vaccine, or rumors of what was really happening but many had also not experienced the effects of an outbreak so they either didn't believe it existed or understand how devastating the effects  Polio could be.

So because I want the laws of my nation to be enforced, I don't want the people here to be infected with diseases, and I don't want all of our social systems to collapse under the weight of uncontrolled illegal immigration, and have our rights stripped I am a xenophobe? This continual autistic screeching from the left about racism, xenophobia, and victim status is so frequently and arbitrarily exploited it has literally become meaningless and made it that much harder to identify ACTUAL racists. Good job.

You have no argument so instead you are forced to resort to character attacks to pretend you have a point and pretend you are in a position of moral superiority. What about the immigrants already here who don't want their opportunities taken by this tidal wave of people from the 3rd world? Fuck them too right? Again, much like SaltySpitoon you are relying on the strawman of anti-vaccination in order to argue against the premise of preserving human and constitutional rights in favor of removing informed consent for medical treatment. I am not against vaccination, I am against COMPULSORY vaccination.
4997  Economy / Goods / Re: What can you sell to Me: Want to try it out on: April 02, 2019, 07:04:30 PM
I am US based so please consider shipping cost, but if you order multiple items it seems to somewhat even out the cost per item, and I will make sure you are satisfied. Thanks for looking. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4983375.msg44950964#msg44950964
4998  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian air force planes land in Venezuela carrying troops on: April 02, 2019, 06:53:53 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-02/china-sends-over-100-troops-venezuela-defiance-us-warnings

I thought the US were supposed to be the ones invading Venezuela...
4999  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So... Musk has been Satoshi all this time? on: April 02, 2019, 05:24:29 PM
https://youtu.be/YjTOxIZfEeU
5000  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: April 02, 2019, 05:21:09 PM
That 6 million number is wrong, Jewish media uses that to gain sympathy and let them do whatever the hell they want.  For all we know, Hitler could of been battling the bankers but ended up failing.  Not saying for certain but history is full of lies.
Yeah history is more lies than truth because that has been proven long time ago,even in local history there are lots of leaks about what had happen in the past that has not been written rightfully

Just like other religions,no one is perfect and i know many muslim and theyre great in friendship,so I believe we must be treat as equal and will be depending on our attitudes and characteristics

To generalize a whole race based on their religion is as ignorant as one can get. Terrorists don't belong to a specific religion. They're here simply to put terror and suffering in people regardless of what religion they're in. And there are as much barbaric stories and verses in the bible as there are in thr quran if you'd care to read it.

First of all religion is not a race. Second, Christianity has had a reformation where the church and the state have separated, Islam has not. You are creating a false equivalency.
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