نعم اخي خالد اعتقد ان هدا الهدف الاساسي من هدا النقاش, والا ان كان الامر غير ذلك فالمسئلة ستكون بسيطة جدا, تاخد كلمات البذرة الى اقرب مطبعة او شركة دعاية لديها امكانية النقش او النحث على الحديد وتستلم قطعة معدنية جاهزة, طبعا كل الالات الجديدة تعتمد على تصميم الرسم باستخدام برامج مثل CorelDRAW اي انه ليس فقط الشخص الذي يقوم بالعمل على القطعة سيصل اليها بل ان نسخة منها ستكون محفوظة على جهازه وهدا يجعلها معرضة للوصول الى الاف الاشخاص الاخرين.

لذلك طباعة الكلمات يجب ان تتم في المنزل, ومهما حاولت التفكير في طرق تسمح بذلك بدون شراء شي جاهز لا اجد خيار افضل من طباعة جدول الحروف حيث انه يمكن لاي حرفي ان يجهزه ولايعلم حتى فيما تريد استخدامه وكل ماتحتاج اليه في المنزل هوا مسمار عادي لتحديد كلماتك, اقتراح الاخ هيوج اصعب في التنفيد ولكن بالطبع فالنتيجة النهائية افضل بكثير.

So all this money is spent to achieve what exactly? body-worn cameras provide an overview of the overall incident and that's it, I can still manage to slide a tiny Ecstasy pill under my car seat while being watched by 10 cameras, in fact, in of the cases the went public after another officer confessed what his co-worker told him was that he held a drug pill between his fingers, reached to the victim's pocket to search and and "found the pill".

This would only work effectively if the procedure states that policemen have to approach the vehicle naked, with their legs and fingers spread, mouth open (probably add a mount-camera too), but as long as there is the slightest possibility that the policeman can slide a tiny little object in your pocket/car/house then the whole process is flawed.

This is the very reason why the previous legislators wrote the rules in such a way that at least a few different organizations/departments need to coordinate in order to frame you, you need to have a bad cop and a bad prosecutor working together to frame you which is pretty much unlikely to happen compared to when a single person can arrange everything by themselves.



No, the problem is the police searching my car without a warrant, as explained above, cameras won't cut it, it would only make things a little bit more difficult but sure thing is -- it won't stop them.



You can't, anyone can frame you just like the drug example, say that I have a blacklisted address which the Chain analysis assumes that it belongs to me as an international terrorist who caused the death of 10000 people, what happens when I send a few sats to an address which you owned and confirmed ownership to it by KYCing yourself to the government, how are you going to prove that you were not in contact with me and that I sent you the coins to frame you?

Furthermore, if your funds sit on a CEX, not only they can partially frame you like that, but they could fully frame you by sending you "Tainted Bitcoin" and then withdrawing the same "tainted coins" to another address owned by you, this will be a perfect evidence that you and I are partners if we were to go with the assumption that those coins were indeed owned by me.

It's even worse if you think about it, there doesn't need to be an actual terrorist involved, the chain analysis company can just link those coins to anyone, they can just send you some random coins and they could just assume that you received them in exchange for trafficking a 10-year old boy, how are you going defend yourself against that when we don't know how they got to the conclusion and they won't share the "how" with anyone?

If you initiate a transaction that has two outputs one is 0.005655 and another has 0.001 all these chain analysis software will assume that the first output is the change address just because they believe it's impossible to end up with a change that is a round number, you could always fool these fools by ending up with a round change, everything else they build on it, later on, will be false, it is all but guesswork, greater for research purposes but terrible for court evidence.

So you want a safe community which is great, but you think all criminals are in the street you need to remember that many criminals are in government offices waiting to exploit anything against you, they would protect you from the street criminals but nothing will protect you from them, the more power you give them they more they will use it against you, not just against the criminals.

A safe world is achieved by increasing the standard of living not by spying on every aspect of the citizens' lives, there is no link between the cities with the most CCTV systems and low crime levels, and the opposite is correct, many cities are hardly watched and yet they have little no crimes.

نعم فهمت الفكرة اخي هيوج شكرا لك, وكما اسلفت في تعليقي السابق اعتقد انه هده الطريقة ستكون صعبة التنفيد وسوف تتطلب الكثير من الجهد والعناء للحصول على نتيجة مقاربة من تلك الموجودة في الصورة, لا زلت اعتقد ان افضل طريقة هي طباعة جدول معدني واستخدام مسمار عادي للنقش عليها, اعتقد ان ماكينات ال laser و  cnc متوفرة في كل دول العالم, كل ماعليك هوا فقط طلب جدول بابعاد معينة وسيقوم مشغل الالة بتصميمه ومن ثم نحته على قطعة المعدن بطريقة جميلة, العملية لن تاخد اكثر من 30 دقيقة لتصميم الجدول وحوالي 5 دقائق للحفر او النحث على الالة, اعتقد ان التكلفة بهده الطريقة ستكون ايضا اقل بكثير.

We know for sure because in some cases some other evidence were revealed, an example of that would be one of law enforcement officers telling the truth about thier partners either because they feel guilty or for some other personal reasons, but ya it happens all the time.

I am literally telling you that any random policeman can frame you pretty easily, just one pill of drug and you do a year in prison, you have to count on the integrity and honesty of everyone who has the power to frame you, you have no idea how scared people are when a police officer pull them over, you could end up doing a full a year in prison for "consuming drugs" and 5+ for selling it, if said officer has access to a large quantity of drugs they can put that in your car and you spend 5 good years in jail.

"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", since this is someone's life and freedom, if the evidences are even remotely questionable -- they mean exactly nothing.

In my country, many decades ago it was illegal for the police force to search your car without a warrant from the office of the attorney general or court, the lawmakers didn't seem to like that so they started changing it slightly one step at a time.

The first change was that the search was legal without a warrant, but unless they found a firearm in your car -- there was nothing much they could do about anything else they found, so there were many cases of police force searching a car that was being used in transporting a serious sum of drugs, they arrest the driver alongside the drugs, send them to court and the case will be dismissed right way as soon as the driver says " the drugs are not mine".

The next change they made was to include the "drugs" next to the firearms, so now you could be randomly checked at any checkpoint or even while getting pulled over for no reason, and if you got any drugs in the car it would be treated as if the search happened based on a court warrant, this lead to an increase of the number of drug dealers in prison by a few orders of magnitude, and then all the naive people were happy about the law change.

The next thing you know is that any police officer can stop you at any place, arrest you, take you to the general attorney's office, and say "We found this MDMA pill in his car" and just like that -- you get a few years in jail.

Years have passed since the change of the law, and now what? the drug dealers figured out many ways of moving the drugs around, no more fancy news headlines of "arrested 5 large drug dealers today" but every now and then we hear a story of an innocent person who was arrested and sentenced to a few months/years over something the law enforcement put in his car, the people are now fighting hard to change these laws because we don't care if you now catch 500 drug dealers instead of a 100 when we don't feel safe at checkpoints, I rather see the drug dealers in every corner of the country and not be sent to jail just because some police officer doesn't like the way I talk to him.

You can reflect the same drugs related law to the money laundry b.s, while these chain analyses do certainly help in catching hackers and bad actors in general, they could also be used as a weapon against innocent people, let's imagine a scenario where the law enforcement put their hands on an address that is proven to be owned by a human trafficker based on (chain analysis b.s), they use that address to send you some BTC and then take you to court with that evidence, that would be pretty terrible for you isn't it?  

It's funny because in your signature you put this great wisdom.


These chain analysis companies pay no price for being wrong, they just make what we can call an "educated guess" at best, and they don't have to pay the price for being wrong, this is indeed a fundamental disagreement not just related to crypto, some people think it's okay to bomb a whole building just to kill one criminal even if the collateral damage is 10 innocent people -- while others like me believe that even bombing a building with 10 criminal and 1 innocent soul is unacceptable.

No, the manufacturer is NOT located in Beijing, that's only the headquarters "office", there is another company called Shenzhen Century Cloud Core Technologies Limited which runs under Bitmain (it manufactures the mining gears ) and is located in Shenzhen (2,000 KM away from Beijing).

Bitmain also manufactures the same ASIC miners in another factory located in Malaysia.

Price list update 25/10/2023

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Stock:

M30s+ 90TH - 98TH 8.5U/TH
M30S++ 102TH - 110TH  9.5U/TH
M50S+ 130TH- 140TH 24W 23.0U/TH
M50S++  140th-155th 22W  26.4U/TH


Antminer:
S19       82TH-86TH  $8/T
S19       90T           $8.5/T
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الصورة لا تظهر اخي الكريم, ولكن على العموم كيف ستحصل على معدن بشكل مدبب بختم الحروف الاتينية؟ لا اعتقد ان هدا يمكن تصنعيه في الورش الصغيرة او في المنزل, لو كان الشكل المطلوب محفور كان الامر ممكن ولكن ان كنت فهمت الفكرة كما هي فأنت تحتاج الى شكل محذب مثل الختم القديم, والمشكلة هنا انه يجب ان يكون من المعدن ايضا والا فانه لن يكون قادر على الطباعة على المعدن, المشكلة الاخرى ان هده الرؤوس يجب ان تكون صغيرة جدا والا فسوف تحتاج للوح معدن كبير جدا, وصغر حجم هده الرؤوس يزيد من صعوبة تصنيعها, ماهي فكرتك لتصنيع هده الحروف؟


الحفظ ممكن في حالات معينة تتطلب (التكرار, التعود , الايقاع او القصة) كل هده الاشياء لا تتوفر في ال seed phrase, فلن تقوم بتكراره يوميا, لن تقوم بسماع شخص اخر يردده, لايحتوي على اي ايقاع ولا اي قصة, لذلك امكانية نسياته مع مرور الوقت هي 99.99% , المشلكة الاخرى والتي يجهلها الكثير من الناس خصوصا هاؤلاء الذين يحاولون ان يخترعو افكار لتخزين ال 24 كلمة في اماكن منفصلة انه حتى في حال تفكرت ال 24 كلمة كاملة ونسيت الترتيب فأن المحفظة عمليا قد ضاعت, لان احتماليات ترتيب الكلمات يمكن حسابها ب 24! او مايعرف ب 24 factorial واي شخص يمتلك دراية بسيطة عن الرياضيات سوف يعرف ان هد الرقم كبير لدرجة مزعجة, للحصول على 24! يجب عليك ان تضرب جميع الارقام من 1 الى 24 في بعضها والنتيجة هنا ستكون 620,448,400,000,000,000,000,000 يعني يوجد ذلك الكم الهائل من الاحتمالات لفتح المفحظة.

لايجب ابدا الاعتماد على الذكاء ولا الذاكرة في حفظ البذرة, لايوجد اي مخرج من حفظها في مكان امن.

The European Union has no business in Bitcoin mining, whatever operation they might have would be considerably small and not worth mentioning, so who is fool enough to set up a mining pool in EU anyway? what would they gain? tax are higher than the majority of the world, no local clients of interest, exactly nothing.

I understand why would someone start a mining pool in the U.S, because regardless of the regulation, the U.S is the largest mining hub, so being a U.S "made" mining pool would certainly have some advantages at least to the larger corps mining BTC, but in EU, I don't see why.


What are the news?


Oh, that would be pretty light, I hope it stops there, for all I know, they could use the terrorism, Iran, Russia, and Hamas card, which would be pretty devastating to BTC in general, a few weeks ago Binance froze a dozen Palestinians' accounts, the excuse was that they were "related to Hamas", we know who is behind that, there is only one country which has the means of forcing Binance to do that, ya politics sucks, let's hope these governments don't weaponize crypto further for personal gains.

So they ran just fine behind that VPN for 24 hours and then what happened? your ISP magically decryption the connection and found out that you were connecting to a mining pool and then they did what? it doesn't add up, if your ISP blocked your connection to the VPN then nothing would be accessible not just the mining pools.

I would start by using a different mining pool to make sure it isn't the other way around, i.e. it's not the pool that's blocking you.

اعتقد ان المقارنة هنا غير عادلة, الحرب في فلسطين ليست حرب يهود ضد مسلمين, بل هي حرب طائفة يهودية صهيونية على كل شخص يقطن تلك الارض, اساس الحركة الصهيونية مبني على هدف عقائدي لديهم (سواء كانو على صواب ام خطاء بالنسبة لدينهم) في المقابل المقاومة في فلطسين نابعة من اساس الدفاع على النفس, الفلسطنيون لا يحلمون بانشاء امارة اسلامية لتحقيق وعود دينية, كل هدفهم هوا استعادة اراضيهم التي سرقت منهم والحفاظ على القليل الذي تبقا منها, الامر بالنسبة للصهاينة مختلف, فهم يرفضون التعايش ليس مع المسلمي نفقط بل حتى مع المسيحين, قبل انشاء دولة الصهاينة كان 15% من سكان فلطسين مسيحين, تم ايضا تهجيرهم وقتلهم اسواء بالمسلمين, هنا يتضح جليا ان الفلسلطينين دافعهم هوا الدفاع عن انفسهم وليس لنصرة عقيتدهم او ماشابه, في المقابل الصهاينة يفعلون كل هدا ضننا منهم انه اوامر ربهم.

Yes, I think the 300-block window is very small, especially if it's during the weekend if the pace is at nearly 100% then we talking 2 full days, pretty easy to miss, I follow difficulty closely every day and I almost missed the contest this time, so I'd imagine someone else who isn't as active in the mining board would most likely miss most of the contests given the short notice.

I think 4 days for the contest would be good, so anything about 600 blocks window would do, those who pick early will have the advantage of larger options, but those who pick later will have the vantage of picking something closer to the current pace, so it isn't all that unfair when you think about it.

Your game, your rules, just chiming in with thoughts to help make this contest more fun.

You certainly can for the transactions that had these 3 small inputs, in other words, you revealed the recipient address of my first mix.

more details:

This was my first mix

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/29cecb7abf2b2455ac842f0f2ca20bc64eeafa650244f100dc2ec248549de845

this was my address


and this was the change address owned by you


up to this point, it's very difficult to tell which address was the change address.


And then there is this mix (not mine)

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/6d08da9665e39843ffd02d67d544e030f8ca3e4f82910a74299debbe13bab0ae

and this (not mine)

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/4b376658c9932523c06055facd620cfe243042bfc51e6697249467fbaf194f9f


All the way before the last transaction, we had no way of telling what the change address was for all of these 3 mixes, but now after this transaction

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/c9a3b09f602b02c433f11fed1e5cc5c1e1207c8c71b34539b0e01445eb04f2db

We know that these 3 inputs belong to the same person, and thus in all of the 3 previous transactions the other 3 addresses were not the change addresses.

So now I know this address

bc1qpweug4vt3pqxfyrl48huppeuhy0xl59c235jxh

and this address

bc1qscpqkpclc6vrucwfmznfzpak4r8942xhvcc2w4

were the recipients of those two transactions, you revealed this piece of info to me for no apparent good reason (or at least one which I don't see).

had you not consolidate those 3 inputs in a mixed transaction that I received, I wouldn't be able to tell the change address of the other 2 addresses (which I don't own)

Obviously, I don't know of other ways to consolidate those small inputs on-chain without revealing the same thing, eventually, when they are consolidated you would reveal the change address of all the other transactions in the same manner, it would just be harder to analyze this information had you waited a little longer before consolidating.

Furthermore, the transaction behavior itself looks suspicious, a normal transaction from a normal wallet would have only included the large input which was larger than the desired output, and the 3 smaller outputs were not even enough to match that anyway.

I do understand that most mixing isn't done so that nobody can tell it's a mixer transaction, the goal is to break the connection between the coins you send and the coins you receive, which you did manage to achieve based on my analysis, I just think that if someone is digging deeper to find out all of this info, it would be wiser to make things more difficult for them even by a small degree.

 

Based on your logic then you should stand against Israel, Israel is a Jewish state that uses religion as an excuse to perform ethnic cleansing against everyone who is not a jew, it includes Muslims, Christians, and even atheists, if you are going to use Hamas as an excuse (since this is what your biased western media teaches you) then let me inform you that Hamas doesn't extend past the Gaza strip and yet Israel has been commenting human right violation of all sorts against the Palastains of different religion in every place regardless, and these are not just my words -- every Israeli based human rights organization confirms this, the Palestinians don't want to make an Islamic or Christian state, they want to get back the lands which the Zionist Jewish took from them with the help of the British.

So ya, I couldn't agree more, religious-based wars/expansion/settling are the worst things in the world, and we should all stand against Israel.


Oh allow me to correct the date for you, it was 1945 when the U.S detonated two atomic bombs on Japanese civilians and killed hundreds of thousands of them.


Religion and prosperity are not related by any means, the Arabs don't need to drop their religion for prosperity, you can check the GDP scale to figure that much out, and for schools, 55.8% of graduates in Saudi Arabia for example, are women. Women do go to school in ALL Arab countries, they just don't teach them about all the LGPT stuff you teach your kids, ya, and no school-shooting.

So the way I see it, you shouldn't be worrying about arab women, you got enough shit to fix at home first.

اعتقد ان الامور تتغير لكل شخص بمجرد ان يصبح رئيس لدولة ما, فكل شي كان يعتقد انه يمكن ان يحققه سوف يستصدم بعقبات قد تحول ذون ذلك, طبعا هدا ان كنا قد تجاوزنا مرحلة ان الكلام الذي يقال قبل الانتخابات الغرض منه هوا فقط كسب اصوات الناخبين.

اما بالمجمل وان تم فعلا تقديم اي اعتراف رسمي للبتكوين من دولة مثل الارجتين فالامر سيكون رائع للبتكوين, لانه بالرغم من كون الارجتين تعاني من مشاكل اقتصادية مثل معظم الدول الاخرى الا انه اقتصادها يعتبر في مقدمة الدول ال 25 اكبر اقتصادا في العالم, يعني لاتقارن بدولة مثل السلفادور التي لا تتواجد حتى في قائمة اكبر 100 اقتصاد حول العالم.

1- It is KYCed, meaning you need to expose your identity, and probably source of funds and that b.s to the U.S government.
2-it is way too large and shouldn't be supported any further.

So it is up to you, if you think the 1.5% difference is worth KYCing yourself or not.

A small correction, pool 3# will only be activated when both pool #1 and pool #2 are not reachable, so think of them as
Main pool and secondary pools in order.

I think for now you should not waste more time on this, just start with Viabtc and then explore the other options.

بصراحة تراودني بعض الافكار بالخصوص احيانا بالرغم من اني اعتقد ان الاحتفاظ بالسيد على ورقة هوا كافي بالنسبة لي ولكن عندما يخطر ببالي ان اخزن البيانات على شي ما اكثر امانا فأني لا اجد اي شي امن من الفولاد المقاوم للصداء او مايعرف ب حديد 304, فهدا المعدن  مقاوم للحرائق والماء على حد سواء, واعتقد انه المعدن الاكثر استعمالا في حفظ مثل هده البيانات الحساسة, طبعا حديد 316 افضل ان كان من الممكن الحصول عليه.

الان بعض حصولك على قطعة من هدا المعدن المشكلة ستكون في كتابة الكلمات, وهنا يعتمد على الادوات التي تمتكلها, لكي تتمكن من نقش الكلمات بوضوح سوف تحتاج الى ماكينة laser وهي مكلفة نسبيا, طبعا يمكن ان تاخدها الى اي مكان خاص بالدعاية وسيقوم هوا بنقش السيد على القطعة المعدنية, المشكلة هنا ان هدا الشخص يمكن ان يكون على دراية بهدا الامر وهنا سوف تعرض اموالك للسرقة, يمكن ايضا ان ينسا ملف التصميم الذي يقوم برفعه من الكومبيوتر الى ماكينة النقش وهنا ايضا تحصل نفس الكارثة.

لذلك اعتقد ان افضل خطوة هي ان تطلب منه ان يقوم بنقش جدول من الحروف والارقام مثل هده الفكرة



حيث يمكنك استخدام مسمار ومطرقة لعمل علامة (حفر) على الحروف المكونة للكلمات, طبعا الجانب السيء هنا هوا ان حجم قطعة المعدن سيكون كبير نسبيا, او انك ستحتاج لاستخدام اكثر من قطعة لكي تتحصل على 24 كلمة.

اما في حال كان شراء هده الاشياء متاح في بلدك طبعا يوجد حلول اخرى جاهزة وممتازة مثل https://keyst.one/shop/products/keystone-tablet

The solution is rather simple, steer clear from any mining pool that is based in the U.S if you don't want to be KYCed. it's crazy that in a country that is known to be the land of the free, you have all the rules and regulations that would strip you of your rights to privacy under the illusion of fighting "money laundry and terrorism funding".

I wonder how long it will take for the U.S. to force every U.S. miner to use a U.S.-based mining pool.?

Almost late to the party, I completely forgot about the thread, was just checking newhedge.io and found out we are already at block 807, a large jump in pace compared to the day before.

21) +2.97 to +3.29% Mikeywith

Thanks again Phil for this fun contest, I am very intrested in seeing stompix's pick.

Will post the current epoch detail here for future reference