Is someone on a ventilator not human because they are not viable with advanced medical equipment? If someone on a ventilator still has higher brain function and still has a possibility of survival, then that person will receive full medical treatment. If someone on a ventilator has been declared brain dead, then that is no longer a viable life (despite their heartbeat) and will have medical treatment withdrawn. If a fetus has higher brain function and has a possibility of survival when they are born, then they will receive full medical treatment. If a fetus has no higher brain function and will not survive even with advanced medical equipment, then it is not a viable life. Life starts at conception, not at viability.
Living cells start at conception. A human life, by definition, cannot start until there is enough brain development to sustain consciousness, which is around 26 weeks. Again, viability does not define human life. Viability refers to chance of survival. The start of human life begins at the formation of a zygote. What you might define as "living" begins a philosophical discussion, not a scientific one, so there are reasonable disagreements and subjective interpretation. Do we consider living to be sentient or conscious? If that were the case, that means we are are no longer alive while sleeping? A human life is still human life even if it is not sustainable without the mother's womb. Abortion is ending human life.So what? Who cares? That life is not viable so it does not matter if it is human life or not. Why are you ignoring human rights to medical procedures? But insisting on preserving non-viable human life? Why? I really want to know the logic behind it. Who brainwashed you? |
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what's your take on that?
Should heart bypass surgeries be banned? How about root canal procedures? Abortion is a medical procedure. Banning medical procedures is immoral. No abortion refers to induced abortions. Wrong, any medical procedure to end human life is immoral. All abortions should be banned to have higher divisions of labor. I refer to this paper- https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/padr.12085, https://www.redalyc.org/journal/413/41345703009/html/, and the Ultimate Resource by Julian Simon. Less people-economic slowdown. More people - more growth. However, I don't think governments should give incentives to people to have more children. Their only job in my view is to defend life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness in that order. You got it wrong. More people means more pollution. Having fewer people is better for everyone. As for abortions, men should have no say what a woman can do with HER BODY. Abortions until viability should be allowed, period. People who cannot get pregnant should have no say on the matter. So you should kill unborn children for the environment, then? Surely there is a better way than murdering the human population in order to be more greener. And define "viability". At what exact point does a fetus become viable? The line is blurry. And why viability? What about when the fetus can detect pain, or has a heart beat? Say the pro-abortion crowd defines an unborn child as just a clump of cells (they do, but for the sake of argument, suppose). At 9 months post conception, the moment before birth where abortion is apparently okay, what exactly is that "thing" that originates from the uterus? Is it still just a clump of cells? If it is considering a human being, then why should other human beings (aka men) not have a say in the matter? Don't play dumber than you are. Google 'baby viability'. Abortions until viability should be decided by women. Period. Women's rights to medical procedures trump your wants over her body. |
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what's your take on that?
Should heart bypass surgeries be banned? How about root canal procedures? Abortion is a medical procedure. Banning medical procedures is immoral. No abortion refers to induced abortions. Wrong, any medical procedure to end human life is immoral. All abortions should be banned to have higher divisions of labor. I refer to this paper- https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/padr.12085, https://www.redalyc.org/journal/413/41345703009/html/, and the Ultimate Resource by Julian Simon. Less people-economic slowdown. More people - more growth. However, I don't think governments should give incentives to people to have more children. Their only job in my view is to defend life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness in that order. You got it wrong. More people means more pollution. Having fewer people is better for everyone. As for abortions, men should have no say what a woman can do with HER BODY. Abortions until viability should be allowed, period. People who cannot get pregnant should have no say on the matter. |
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Sometimes people do say the world be a better place without religion. Because how people take religion too serious , so if you are not of the same religion which they belong they have nothing to do you. Would the world be a better place without religion? Has region not play any role in our society.
When early Homo sapiens communities were forming religions and common myths served a very important role. They unified communities behind common goals and provided rules to govern those communities and societies. Today, we have developed more sophisticated secular systems to govern ourselves. And those systems are far superior to systems based on religions because they can change as more information becomes available. Religious systems of governance are static and in some cases illogical because they are unable to change with the modern world. Today, religions are regressive, they try to hang on to their archaic knowledge in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The world would be a much better place if we abandoned these ancient myths. |
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what's your take on that?
Should heart bypass surgeries be banned? How about root canal procedures? Abortion is a medical procedure. Banning medical procedures is immoral. |
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If you're vaccinated, there is almost a zero percent chance you'll be symptomatic and have the ability to transmit the virus, so why mask up vaccinated individuals? It's ridiculous.
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You are only vaccinated against some variants. We don't know what variants are out there. That is why all measures need to be taken by everyone. The dodo birds who refuse to wear masks and get vaccinated make things worse as they prolong the pandemic and give a chance for a virus to mutate into something that might be difficult to manage. This thing is not over. Get vaccinated asap, and wear the fucking mask at all times. |
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He has a very superficial understanding of how mRNA vaccines work. The spike protein molecules are sliced up inside the cell when the cell is marked for destruction. The spike proteins are never 'embedded' in the cell wall, they never get out of the cell where they were produced. What is he describing is nonsense. When you are infected with the coronavirus, that is a different story. The virus replicates rapidly and that causes cells to burst and it causes mayhem on your body. This guy is a dodo bird. |
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I have often thought something like this article. What if they dumped loads of self-assembling nano-chips into out drinking water? And as we drank these chips down, they assembled in our bodies and brains into control units, that controlled even our thinking? What if the iron in the vaccines is this kind of thing? What if it even takes the iron in our bodies and turns it into these kinds of machines?
Do covid vaccines contain nanoparticles that self-assemble to build a biocircuitry “operating system” to control your moods and thoughts?Today’s Situation Update podcast covers a lot of breaking news on world events, including: China’s grain shortage and attempted famine cover-up Espionage – high-level Chinese spy dumps dirt on corrupt US officials The NSA seems to have declared war on the FBI as a “civil war” erupts inside the deep state swamp 13-Year-Old Boy Dies Three Days After Taking Second COVID Shot; the masses begin to awaken to vaccine dangers American Airlines is canceling hundreds of flights a day as a 737 pilot shortage worsens… is it the vaccine? US doctors are suffering under a trance of “mass hypnosis” warns Dr. Peter McCullogh In addition, the last section of the podcast discusses the “what if” possibility that at least some covid vaccines may contain exotic technology that, once injected into the body, activates a self-assembly process to build a biocircuitry interface using elements from the victim’s own blood. Although this sounds like science fiction, we seem to be living in a dystopian sci-fi scenario with biological weapons, magnetic nanoparticle “magnetofection” technology, Orwellian surveillance and all-out government propaganda to coerce everyone into taking a depopulation spike protein injection. (So don’t tell me ANY theory is “out there.” This is 2021. Global depopulation extermination is under way. Our entire reality is now “out there.”) In addition, the Moderna company openly describes their vaccine injections as installing an “operating system,” which by definition means a platform to receive additional commands or instructions for execution. How are those commands received? From external electromagnetic waves? Dr. Peter McCullogh has described vaccine-pushing doctors as being in a kind of mind-controlled trance. His exact words from a recent interview: (emphasis added) What we have learned over time is that we could no longer communicate with government agencies. We actually couldn’t communicate with our propagandized colleagues in major medical centers, all of which appear to be under a spell, almost as if they’ve been hypnotized… Good doctors are doing unthinkable things like injecting biologically active messenger RNA that produces this pathogenic spike protein into pregnant women. I think when these doctors wake up from their trance, they’re going to be shocked to think what they’ve done to people… Here’s the video where he states this: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/58437760-a8fa-4872-9ad9-0bbba33e5a95. What if it isn’t a spell or a trance but rather a self-assembled, embedded biocircuit that has taken control over their neurology? ...  Who is Satan? Where does he live? What is he made of? |
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~SNIP~
You are simply gaining experience... switching religions. Gaining experience on what? switching religions? I don't think so, cause I believe that religions exists because of the similarities in beliefs thus forming a group that shares it. That's what the religion like catholic, Islam or any other. And I respect their beliefsYou should not. Their beliefs are idiotic. But I do understand your desire not to be killed by a religious fruitcake. |
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Let me stop you with this crazy envy you're spreading.
What Elon Musk does is making the theoretical work into motion, it is science. There is theoretical and experimental, and although it is sad to say, but Experimental scientist normally takes all the glory even though theoretical does all the math and the concept while experimental does the product and the overall usable item that is theorized.
Another thing, Musk not just rediscover and materialize ideas, he also innovates the idea to be set in motion.
The thing about paper works that is theorized is that it will remain in paper unless someone do the work to make it into reality, and MUSK did it. Imagine your citation is decades ago yet it is only now when it is finally materialized and became a product.
The courage to believe in someone is what Musk done, and you might even have the courage to do so, but your envy is so full that you want him to be "FAKE" in your eyes
Repeat after me. Elon Musk is not a scientist. Elon Musk hasn't contributed to the advancement of science. Elon Musk is a rich man with an overinflated sense of self worth. Please do me a favor and at least skim the OP so you see my point of view. If you're too lazy to do that there is also a whole ass YouTube video. Do you believe the hyperloop is a good idea? Elon does. The hyperloop will never work. Here's one reason. All it takes is a small hole in a vacuum tube and it turns into a giant potato canon. Everyone dies. Here is another reason. Metal expands when hot. Unlike rails which do not need vacuum seals the hyperloop could never survive that. Here are other stupid ideas by "Genius" elon musk. Dig tunnels under cities to move more cars into cities with already inadequate parking. Make the tunnels so small that an accident or fire will suffocate everyone in the tunnel. Yes, you fell for the hype. I'm sorry. I'm the kind of person who understand at least a little bit of science and physics and what is currently practical. Elon Musk clearly doesn't. He isn't a scientist. In fact he is barely scientifically literate. I don't have the time or inclination to go into depth but I fucking hate how everyone falls for his shit. What will it take for people to wake up? I don't want any of you lemmings feeling ashamed. We all have been wrong one time or another. The only way forward is thinking critically about the ideas he is proposing and soon enough you'll see it. He is just a big fat fraud. He is not a scientist, he was perhaps a competent enough programmer to get paypal off the ground. He is probably getting dumber as we speak. He is just a rich man with a giant ego. The fuck you talking about, what he made is engineering stuffs, and engineers is fundamentally ready for scientific stuffs. Engineering is the application of science and math to solve problems. Engineers figure out how things work and find practical uses for scientific discoveries. Scientists and inventors often get the credit for innovations that advance the human condition, but it is engineers who are instrumental in making those innovations available to the world.Bear in mind that he is a MECHANICAL ENGINEER, the most versatile engineering in the whole engineering curriculum, mechanical tackles all about the elements of machineries, structural analysis, and many more. What he's doin right now is mainly engineering, and he is licensed to do that cause he is indeed an engineer. Your mind is what tickles me that you only believe that "SCIENTISTS" are the only one who can make something out of nothing, doofoos. What you are doing right now is being envious of his achievements, and that is pretty toxic He is not an engineer. Where did he complete his undergrad engineering degree? He was dropping out of schools faster than he could enroll. He does not have the proper education or experience to be an engineer or scientist. He is a hustler. He hires engineers and scientists. On top of all this, he is kinda a creep with his obsession with young chics, breaking up marriages, etc. |
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... And you can afford to be an antivaxxer because most people around you are vaccinated, so you're welcome.
Vaccines sometimes turn people into long-term asymptomatic carriers. ... Not Covid-19 vaccines. mRNA vaccines do not contain or produce pathogens. There is no way for you to become an asymptomatic carrier from a covid-19 vaccine alone. You need to be infected with a real covid-19 virus to be a carrier. Well, no shit. That's what an asymptomatic carrier is! You obviously don't understand the basic meaning of the phenomenon. Though they (Pfizer studying their own product) found out that the so-called vaccine 'works' (reduces mild symptoms) in a matter of weeks, they've been trying to figure out if 'vaccinated' people can catch and spread the infection for half a year now. The long delay on this rather easy and obvious thing to discover is almost certainly because the 'vaccinated' can and do catch and spread the infection and nobody wants to admit how much relative to the un-jabbed. With pertussis, the vaccine makes it so that instead of getting a cough for a few weeks and clearing it, the wild strain lingers in one's body for months or years so you can spread it around that much more. To make matters worse the duration of immunity for the vaccinated sucks and is getting worse as the bacteria evolves to around the vaccine (using the vaccinated to accelerate that process.) The reason that real trials take years _approve_ is because it takes a while to discover ecological features such as this. Vaccinated people can as easily get infected with covid-19 as non-vaccinated people. What happens after they get infected differs diametrically between the two groups. If you think that vaccinated people cannot get infected by the covid-19 virus, you don't understand how the immune system works and how vaccination protects you from getting sick. BTW, you lose antibodies pretty quickly, but the memory cells will stay in your immune system for years, and when you get infected you will quickly develop antibodies and eliminate the threat that viruses like covid-19 pose. When you are vaccinated and get infected with the covid-19 virus, your body will eliminate the virus well before you show any symptoms. So you might be 'a carrier' for few hours, LOL. You definitely will not be spreading anything as the viral infection will be stopped in its tracks. Vaccination against covid-19 prevents the long-term organ damage or death the covid-19 virus can cause. Not vaccinating yourself and your loved ones is plain stupid and irresponsible, IMHO. PS. This virus will not be eradicated unless all of us get vaccinated and wear masks until the case count drop to zero. |
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... And you can afford to be an antivaxxer because most people around you are vaccinated, so you're welcome.
Vaccines sometimes turn people into long-term asymptomatic carriers. ... Not Covid-19 vaccines. mRNA vaccines do not contain or produce pathogens.There is no way for you to become an asymptomatic carrier from a covid-19 vaccine alone. You need to be infected with a real covid-19 virus to be a carrier. |
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If both countries became secular and closed ALL mosques, churches, and temples; banned religions as ancient cultural relics, Palestinians and Israelis would live in peace and harmony.
... you do realise that the latest tensions were triggered because of the lockdown and the banning of regigeous congregations yep when one side used its police to tell the other side they cant pray at a certain temple.. the other side pushed back. then the police doubled the efforts and then the other side did. .. it then escalated inclusion is the solution not exclusion its the same everywhere else.. segregation is not the solution. as black&white issues have learned jerusalam is a religious area. so banning religion in an area of religion will just make all the religions fight the atheists .. again not a solution. inclusion. where it does not have a flag of any particular faith is the solution. allow any religion.. that is the solution. integration not segregation heck.. in america.. even amung the atheists. if they suddenly banned anyone from admiring or dressing up or appreciating elvis. there will be protests and riots. thats why the solution is to let people just be themselves and just dressup however they like. if you dont want elvis banned then dont cry about wanting other appreciations banned i dont like trump. but trying to ban people from wearing fake tans and blonde wigs is not the solution Do you realize that this is a religious conflict? Do you realize that without Judaism and Islam, there would be two things less to disagree and fight? There would be just one country: Israeline (or Paletsrael) with Semitic people living there. There would be no Zionists or Islamists. |
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The terrorist organization Hamas, has recently launched hundreds of missiles targeting Israeli citizens. Some of the missiles exploded while still in Gaza (where Hamas is based), and Israel was able to use its missile defense system, the Iron Dome, to shot down the majority of the missiles before hitting their civilian targets. Unfortunately, not all missiles were destroyed, and some Israeli civilians were killed, and Israeli citizens were forced to go into bomb shelters for safety.
In response, the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, launched airstrikes against 130 terrorist targets. Hamas prefers to use citizens of Gaze as human shields, however the IDF will contact civilians before conducting air strikes, giving them the opportunity to move to safety before the targets are taken out.
What do you think? Is Hamas right to target Israeli civilians, who are innocent? Is Hamas right to use citizens of Gaza as human shields in order to protect their military assets from air strikes by Israel?
Hamas has taken the Palestinians hostage. It is a terrorist organization that should be eradicated by all means necessary. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a religious conflict. If both countries became secular and closed ALL mosques, churches, and temples; banned religions as ancient cultural relics, Palestinians and Israelis would live in peace and harmony. (Palestinians would probably outbreed Israelis in no time, but that is another issue.) Until then, they will be bombing themselves until the Armaggedon comes (which is never). |
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This corona virus really makes us scared, worry and make everyone sick, physically, emotionally, mentally and even socially, can't imagine the wide effect of this "worldwide Pandemic" millions of people are now dying, economics are all low and Media news really worsen the situation. we still don't know when would this end and what will happen to all of us after if this continue.
It will end when everyone is vaccinated. Including the anti-vaxxers and other 'freedom fighters'. If this virus is not eradicated quickly, we are looking at new mutations, not just variants but possibly new strains, which will require new vaccinations. From what we know, viruses mutated under stress are usually more contagious and deadly. We are looking at wearing masks for the rest of our lives if we don't eradicate this virus NOW. |
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Being pregnant does not make people around you pregnant; kids, men, and women.
False equivalence.
I'm not talking about pregnancy per se but freedom of choice. So what you are saying is our COVID masters that initiated the lockdown measures, forcing you to wear masks and now trying to force people to take a vaccine have a sudden right to force us to do whatever they tell us all of a sudden? I'm saying that we are living under tyranny and people just follow along with it. If this was as severe as they made it out to be during the first three months (like the ebola virus) then society would have been completely shuttered and you would see no one at their jobs and everything closed period. Certain freedoms are legislated illegal. The choice of stoning non-virgins was made illegal. The choice of blowing yourself in public was made illegal. As for public health measures, well, they are required to save lives. Your freedom to spread a deadly virus should be suspended until everyone is vaccinated, then we can go back to normal. When you don't know if you have HIV but 1 in 10 people has it, it only makes sense to put on a condom (mask) every time you have sex (breathe). So get vaccinated, put on a mask, and shut the hell up. I don't CARE about your freedoms. Stop killing people.When you are the only person left with the virus and everyone else has been vaccinated, you can have your freedoms back and die on the ventilator. PS. And don't even try to come back and say that sperms and eggs are people. Abortion is a women's choice that pertains to HER body. Not millions of people around her. |
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I think it is time to ban non-vaccinated people from entering government buildings, hospitals, schools, airports, etc.
All businesses that employ non-vaccinated people should have their registrations/licenses revoked and stiff business and personal penalties
should be imposed.
This pandemic will not end until all anti-vaxxers are hunted down and vaccinated.
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Regardless of what anyone thinks. Whatever happened to my body, my choice with the left? You know where you have the choice to abort your child or not? Well what about the vaccine? Don't you have the same choice of liberty in the matter that is not taking the vaccine if you don't want it and taking it if you feel you will be safe and secure? Why are certain talking points encouraged? While debate or the opposing side is discouraged or even censored altogether in the discourse that is the public square of the internet?
Being pregnant does not make people around you pregnant; kids, men, and women. False equivalence. |
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~ Comparing people who are saving millions of lives through vaccination to the Nazis who ran the holocaust is a new low. Congratulations. These threads are becoming increasingly hysterical, and continue to fly in the face of all available evidence. Please stop. Well, Nazis and vaccine administrators are certainly not the same. Nazis couldn't help knowing that what they were doing was wrong. I mean, when you send people into the gas chambers knowing that you are going to gas them to death, you know that you are doing wrong. And certainly, if you shoot them to death for nothing, you know this is wrong. But this time it is different. Only the leaders know that they are doing wrong. Let me clarify. The medical leaders know they are killing people. But this time they have convinced the direct executioners - the people who push the plunger - that they are doing good. Sure, some of them know that some of what they are doing is questionable. But they just can't believe that their leaders would do something bad. The medical leaders have brain washed them so well. And the masses don't even realize at all that they have been lied to. These doctors and nurses are their friends. They have been visiting them for years for helpful medicines (which are often the things that are slowly wrecking their lives). So, why should it be any different this time? Get more help from your medical friends, not realizing that you are being killed. OpenVAERS - https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/death-stats - still shows us "COVID Vaccine Data Through April 30, 2021 = Deaths: Total 3837." They are a little behind VAERS, itself. Without looking, anybody can see that VAERS might be reporting over 4,000 deaths by now. And Harvard School of Medicine in their longer-than-10-years study proves that VAERS and other such organizations don't get even 1% of what is really happening. Four-hundred thousand plus dead from the vaccinations so far. And many more to follow. So, you are right. The comparison between Nazis and the American medical is a new low. The American medical is way worse than Nazis could even think to be.... even with their Nazi direct goals. If Hitler saw what the American medical was doing, he would either be proud of them, or he would roll over in his grave at the horror they were producing, way beyond anything even he was comfortable with. And here you are, a link in the killer chain of advertising. The question is, are you doing it because you are ignorant like many medical practitioners? Or are you more like the Nazi's, honestly carrying out your job, knowing what you are doing, and simply following orders! Here is an idea for the new NetFlix documentary. Public Health officials hunting down anti-vaxxers like BADecker, handcuffing them, vaccinating them, and releasing them to their natural habitat. The show would be a hit. |
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The Covid-19 virus vaccines are meant to protect us from the virus. India is known for producing the larger vaccine, but India recorded the highest Covid-19 cases in one day. It is also rumored how people who took the vaccines died. I don't trust the vaccines, because it don't seem to protect us from getting the virus. I very scared of taking the vaccines.
When you are fully vaccinated against covid-19, and then you are infected with the covid-19 virus, your immune system will quickly destroy the virus before you see any symptoms. You forgot the rest of it... Then you will get the symptoms from the way the vaccine has changed your system and genes, rather than from the virus. And the symptoms will be so bad, that you will die unless you get another jab. WTF are you babbling about? They trigger an immune response to produce antibodies for the Covid-19 virus. So when you get infected with the real virus, your immune system will destroy it quickly before you even realize that you have been infected. |
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