Navalny has been arrested numerous times by Russian authorities,
Navlny is still living in Russia but a court releases him despite his attacks while Whataboutism will be detained because Whataboutism is bad Ask the Whataboutism prisoners. Fixed that for you! |
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It was a scam , claiming to be the first sovereign coin when the natives didn't even heard of it.
There was no way the coin could be adopted by the people for which it was "designed".
Read a bit about how those guys live in real life and you're going to see for yourself that a digital currency was the last of their dreams.
If it was a scam why is he still promoting it? He's not making any money. Is Potcoin a scam because it claims to be the "official" currency of the cannabis industry, or is it just overexcited marketing by fudging words a little, big difference. Also a statement from one of the Lakota tribe's lawyers did come out after all the fud drama indicating they knew about Maza but were exploring it further, sounds more like politics got involved than Payu out in the wilderness making a coin in secret. Also if you read anything you'd know originally the initiative was to bring Bitcoin to the tribes as well but that would mean they'd have no sovereign control of the currency hence the birth of Mazacoin. Also go tell the Ecuador president his plans for a digital currency is the last of their dreams too since a good portion of Ecuador's population is made up of poor natives with no electricity. So a digital currency controlled by the government replacing the current "uncontrollable" fiat money.
This is worse than banning bitcoin actually.
You will have basically no means escaping the government control. All your finances will be tracked and they will know everything you purchase , when you send money to your kinds and family in detail. And they will be able to wipe your deposits with a click.
A lot of them will miss cash payments
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it is getting a little bit better though, you might not know it but since 2011, there were no political murders (only murders within Caucus region) there is Alexander Navalny, russian opposition, he is good, a lot of leaks on many dirty politicians, many people support him, nobody is trying to kill him.... yet  not killed yet, only prosecuted Navalny has been arrested numerous times by Russian authorities, most seriously in 2012, when federal authorities accused him of three instances of embezzlement and fraud, all of which he denied.[6] In July 2013 he was convicted of embezzlement and was sentenced to five years in a corrective labor colony.[7][8] Russia's Memorial Human Rights Center recognized Navalny as a political prisoner.[9] Navalny was released from prison a day after sentencing.[10] The prison fine was suspended in October 2013.[11] On 28 February 2014 he was placed under house arrest for two months and prohibited from communicating with anyone other than his family, after allegedly violating travel restrictions.[12] Pretty interesting. If he was convicted why was he released? In the evening after the sentencing the Prosecutor's Office appealed the sentence in the part which prescribed Navalny and Ofitserov to be jailed, arguing that until the higher court affirmed the sentence, the sentence is not valid. Next morning, the appeal was granted. Navalny and Ofitserov were released on 19 July 2013 awaiting the hearings of the higher court.[68] The prosecutor's request decision was described "unprecedented" by experts Sorry but this was a mess. No legal system in this world works this way. |
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If this coin or bitcoin dies because of fud then it deserves to die.
Sorry but some things do not deserve anything it's called basic decency. Payu Harris from Mazacoin didn't deserve to be called a crack smoker or a deadbeat dad because he made a coin that some people did not like or wanted cheap. People here were absolutely vicious and drove that coin into the ground, it was sad. However he continued to fight on and was interviewed just 3 weeks ago by Newsweek and has a Mashable.com documentary of his journey premiering in October. What "scam" developer would go to all this trouble even when their coin is worth almost nothing? In my book all the work he's done he "deserves" to have a top 10 coin at least but I guess that's just my opinion too. I sense the same pattern with Uro, many people feel threatened by it and beyond the fudders just wanting cheap coin, I arguably think there are other people who absolutely want it to fail because it takes money away from their daily pump and dumps. XC was another good example of a hateful fud campaign because it represented a threat to Darkcoin. How ironic though Dark would be taken down not by XC but all these endless anon gimmick coins coming out of the woodwork every day. My "opinion" is when things traverse into the territory of someone picking up the phone and calling someone on the other end "scamming cunts" like Chang that just screams crazy. I've been conned by alot like Carsen Klock but I'm not going to get on the phone with him and argue with him because he cost me 50 bucks. No. Mazacoin deserved to die. It was a scam , claiming to be the first sovereign coin when the natives didn't even heard of it. There was no way the coin could be adopted by the people for which it was "designed". Read a bit about how those guys live in real life and you're going to see for yourself that a digital currency was the last of their dreams. Mazacoin did ride the waves of auroracoin but it wasn't anything special. the same question went unanswered. Why use auroracoin or mazacoin or the other failures and not bitcoin. |
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I am trying to keep the conversation with you. so yes, 267 dead, harsh country, harsh times, no freedom of press, and something about your ass Ok. Then point made , discussion about this ended. And yeah my ass is still angry about what I had for dinner but that is offtopic. Wouldn't it be so awesome when we talk about something to stick to it and not derail to "the others did it also" , "that country is worse" etc etc. ? Just because the USA did a lot of stupid things it doesn't mean Russia now has to do a few also. What is next? Should i go out and kill a few women because Jack the Ripper got away? |
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I don't care who this Coinosaur guy is nor what this Tanga guy is
What i was saying is that they guy currently has no relation to SG based exactly on the evidence you provided so he can be neglected or at least SG involvement in this.
The claim by truthful was Clifton Tang was made up or did not exist, I countered with verifiable evidence that would hold up in a court of law that not only is he NOT made up but he worked/works for a company that shares the same address as GES. I mean really what are the odds of Coinosaur getting an email and pulling a random name out his ass and having these details match up? This is what I mean by pure insanity, you are like the guys claiming Bohan was photoshopped, do you know how elaborate this whole complex scheme is? Have you seen how simple crypto scams are? Why are all the other ones busted easily with a simple google search and one sloppy mistake somewhere blowing the whole thing yet in this case for the thing to be a setup, years of digital back history back even before Bitcoin had to be planted, Nilesh is jet setting around the world bankrupt with 10 dollars in his pocket getting selfies taken with the dictator of Fiji and employees in Egypt and Hong Kong, all of Bohans 2 year old youtube videos of him narrating over his HD camera footage is not real, all these official government documents pulled from government websites is not real, Rivaa exports is not real, Indian Potash Limited is not real, not even the 9/11 conspiracy theories are now this mammoth. And you can call it fishy all you like niothor but a company who has a history of fraud also has a history of complaints as well. I challenge you to find me any complaint online calling GES a scam. Just one. I hope this Iran video comes out and its the Ayatollah himself on film declaring all crypto other than Uro is sinful, but even then you'd probably still say, "Hmm....I still don't know....scam." And of course should I not forget how the goal post keeps moving in all of this, at first it was GES was fake, Bohan stole the company's website from Nilesh and faked it all, then the Nilesh video came out (LOL) and the fud had to change to Nilesh is bankrupt or GES is going to screw farmers over, nothing will please you lot. You will never be satisfied. Probably not. I haven't heard about a person who is satisfied forever. Second both you and the the red guy are doing a zealot mistake. You assumed I have something with the coin and that I am a fudder desperate to bring it down. If this coin or bitcoin dies because of fud then it deserves to die. What I have posted above was my opinion. I wouldn't trust something like that with those ghost offices and deals..Point. It my damn opinion and I have the right to say it wherever i want and whenever i want. Want to prove that URO is real? I will buy a coin right now! How do i get my 1 ton of UREA? |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
Can vipiss.farti at least spell my username right? |
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of course I did, and there are political assassinations in your country, or do you think you will be safe when you leak some info on your politician? they will take you down quickly.
at this point I actually don't know what you mean by freedom of speech
No there are not. And again , we are talking about russia. Do you guys suffer from a genetic disease of whataboutism? I will post this link till all of you stop using this crap : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism |
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there are very few political homicides, so again, get your facts right, it is not about freedom of speech as you can see some of those murders are related to business, or personal vendetta, so, crime rate used to be very high, this is true if you get into the fight with oligarch he can put a price on your head up until 2001 - dark time for Russia, you might know "perestroika" brings out the best in people You just acknowledged that there are political assassinations in your country. So , freedom of press my ass. No wonder 90% of the population is brainwashed. |
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Exactly my Russian friend. You got it right . Keep the good work. |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
And you are here on bitcointalk because of..... Do you even have a clue why bitcoin was created and what is means? Oh wait you're one of those guys who only spend time in the altcoin section and trying to defend their coins from FUD..... Can you shower upon us some of your knowledge why Bitcoin was created? In my opinion it was created to make financial system decentralized and easy to use with no international boundaries. And finally you accept that you are a FUDer and I am defending my coin from you. Nobody here need you to trust anything about URO, nobody cares what you think, you have presented your point already and everybody has discarded it. This is a moderated(to keep away non believers) forum for URO believers, why you keep coming back here, even though you are not interested in it? or you are interested but hiding something. We will definitely think about what you are saying but before can you please post the information I have requested my previous post above? "Proof of Credibility" So if my opinion is not taken into account by anybody why are you so angry?? Is your bag shaking mr bagholder ? Also , lol....moderated topic means only for believers? What is this? Pravda? Gulag Post? Bitcoin is viewed mr bagholder as a toll of freedom. Freedom which you little piece of ... uro... seem to not like it even a bit. So , grab your bag and hodl it till UroCoin reaches the moon. Yes it is viewed as a toll of freedom that why I said decentralized (free from control) and I am not angry at all, in fact I am laughing at your obsession about URO hahahaha. And I think you are confusing between toll of freedom and troll of freedom, you are being the latter one. URO is the perfect example of fairness and decentralization with no-premine and fair reward structure. Don't worry about my bags, I hold lot of bags of different coins and they are not going anywhere. Btw how cleverly you are ignoring my questions above about your LinkedIn and URO history, it has nothing to do with freedom but it will ensure us about your credibility. Lol The moment I will claim I have a 300 billion company in HK , NZ , Mars. Jupiter and Hoth you will see my Linkedin profile. I am not here to prove anything about me. The indie guy with two bucks in his pockets claiming to be a billionaire has. As for my URO trading history here it is: |
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If you check that link then you will see that most of people there died during 1st and 2nd Chechen war. Terrorists capture people. It is not about freedom of speech, you need to get your facts right. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. The page says combined deaths not only Chechen conflicts. For example... 1 February - Sergei Dubov, director of Novoye vremya publishing house, Moscow. Shot in contract killing.[59] Homicide [nJ]. 26 April - Andrei Aidzerdzis, Duma deputy and publisher. Shot in contract killing, in Khimki near Moscow.[60] Homicide [nJ]. 15 June - Yury Soltys, Interfax journalist and editor. Beaten to death in Moscow Region.[61] Homicide [?J]. 15 October - Tatyana Zhuravlyova and husband, media workers, Komsomolskaya pravda (Samara bureau). Killed in Voronezh Region while driving their car in the country.[62] Homicide. [nJ]. 17 July - Yelena Roshchina, chief editor of children's newspaper, Ivanovo. Murdered in her flat.[63] Homicide. The gang who killed her were tried and convicted in 2000 [nJ]. 17 October - Dmitry Kholodov, military correspondent of the Moskovskii Komsomolets newspaper, was killed in Moscow when a booby-trapped briefcase he had collected from a railway station locker exploded in his newspaper's offices.[64] Homicide. Kholodov's alleged killers were tried and twice acquitted, in 2002 and in 2004 [J]. 17 February - Vyacheslav Rudnev, freelance journalist, Kaluga, published in local Vest and Znamya newspapers. Homicide [?J]. 1 March - Vladislav Listyev, head of the new ORT TV Channel, shot dead in stairwell of his Moscow apartment block in a classic contract killing. Homicide [nJ]. 3 March - Igor Kaverin, engineer with Svobodnaya Nakhodka radio station, Primorsky Region. Shot in car, Homicide [nJ]. 8 March - Oleg Ochkasov, freelance journalist in Voronezh, writing for Vecherny Voronezh and Skandalnaya pochta newspapers. Homicide [nJ]. 16 March - Alexei Khropov, director of Vox radio station, recently off the air. Leningradskoe Highway, Moscow Region. Homicide [nJ]. 6 June - Alexander Konovalenko, journalists with Krestyanskaya gazeta, Volgograd, beating in police station led to his death.[68] Homicide. Killer convicted in 1998 [?J]. 4 August - Sergei Nazarov, former presenter of popular TV show "Vremechko". Killed in Moscow. Homicide [nJ]. 10 August - Vadim Obekhov, columnist with Vesti newspaper, Petropavlovsk, Kamchatka Region. Homicide [nJ]. 2 November - Andrei Ulanov, chief editor of Togliatti segodnya newspaper. Togliatt, Samara Region. Contract killing, homicide [nJ]. 8 November - Sergei Ananyev, head of press service, East Siberian organised crime department. Murdered in Irkutsk. Outcome of 2000 trial not clear [nJ]. 12 December - Victor Litvinov, "Golos Rossii" radio station commentator, Moscow, died after street attack.[70] Homicide [nJ]. 10 December - 25-year-old Yaroslav Zvaltsev, financial director of the Russky dom newspaper in Magnitogorsk, shot in contract killing.[71] Homicide [nJ]. 26 December - Vadim Alferyev, worked as journalist for local press and TV in Krasnoyarsk, where he died after a savage beating.[72] Homicide [?J]. 25 January - Oleg Slabynko, founder of "Moment Istiny" corporation, producer of a program of the same name, a director of ORT (today Channel One TV), murdered in his Moscow apartment. Contract killing [nJ]. 8 February - Yury Litvinov, engineer, and Alexander Zaitsev, director, of Forward cable television.[74] Found shot in car, Dalnegorsk, Primorsky Region. Contract killing? [nJ]. 26 February - Felix Solovyov, famous photographer, Aeroflot journal editorial board, murdered in Moscow.[75] Homicide [nJ]. 11 May - Victor Mikhailov, crime correspondent for Zabaikalsky rabochy newspaper.[74] Chita. Homicide [nJ]. 26 July - Nikita Chigarkov, staff member of Utrenniy ekspress, beaten and robbed.[74] Moscow. Homicide [nJ]. I'm tired of copy pasting but the are more journalists that died murdered (probably because they dared criticize the soviet government) that the ones in war. |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
And you are here on bitcointalk because of..... Do you even have a clue why bitcoin was created and what is means? Oh wait you're one of those guys who only spend time in the altcoin section and trying to defend their coins from FUD..... Can you shower upon us some of your knowledge why Bitcoin was created? In my opinion it was created to make financial system decentralized and easy to use with no international boundaries. And finally you accept that you are a FUDer and I am defending my coin from you. Nobody here need you to trust anything about URO, nobody cares what you think, you have presented your point already and everybody has discarded it. This is a moderated(to keep away non believers) forum for URO believers, why you keep coming back here, even though you are not interested in it? or you are interested but hiding something. We will definitely think about what you are saying but before can you please post the information I have requested my previous post above? "Proof of Credibility" So if my opinion is not taken into account by anybody why are you so angry?? Is your bag shaking mr bagholder ? Also , lol....moderated topic means only for believers? What is this? Pravda? Gulag Post? Bitcoin is viewed mr bagholder as a toll of freedom. Freedom which you little piece of ... uro... seem to not like it even a bit. So , grab your bag and hodl it till UroCoin reaches the moon. |
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Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?
You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
And you are here on bitcointalk because of..... Do you even have a clue why bitcoin was created and what is means? Oh wait you're one of those guys who only spend time in the altcoin section and trying to defend their coins from FUD..... |
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Niothor no offense but I feel like I'm living in crazy land with you. So because some guys linkedin says "past experience" you are going to disregard official tax and street documents? Maybe the guy left and came back and was too lazy to change his linkedin, who knows, but what does it matter, how did Coinosaur know to look up this Clifton Tang specifically to craft a fake email? Especially a guy who seems to have a vested interest in fudding to begin with. It's like all the morons who called the Rivaa emails fake even though it came from a proven employee name available on Rivaas website and then finally we had to wait for Rivaa themselves to put it on their website and by then people were like /yawn
Do people not apply Occam's Razor anymore, the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.
I don't care who this Coinosaur guy is nor what this Tanga guy is What i was saying is that they guy currently has no relation to SG based exactly on the evidence you provided so he can be neglected or at least SG involvement in this. And if indeed the addresses are the same it makes the thing even more fishy. There are a lot of guys from HK here , for a small bounty there will be somebody who can visit their "office" and put an end to this shit. ps. I wound't trust on this "mission" somebody who had posted even once on this thread before nor a less than 3 months old account. |
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So the Russians want to ban flight over Siberia. Good... National carrier Aeroflot on Thursday reported a net loss of 1.9 billion rubles ($52 million) for the first six months of the year as tensions between Moscow and the West coupled with a slowing economy deter Russians from traveling abroad. Add here the 200 millions it gets from those flight that will go to 0 and there we have it. Each russian will will have to pay this loss out of their pockets.  . Aeroflot collects royalties from foreign carriers for Siberian overflights, receiving about $170 million in 2013, according to Irina Stupachenko, an analyst at Otkritie Capital in Moscow. Stupachenko said any restrictions would be “very negative” for the airline, for which the royalty payments are equal to 18 percent of full-year earnings. |
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Meanwhile, and despite Russia repeatedly saying that the conflict in Ukraine is an internal civil war, the president of... Lithuania stated today that there is a war between Russia and Ukraine and by extension with the whole of Europe. Quote: "Because Russia is at war with Ukraine, it is at war with a country that badly wants a tight integration with EU and thus Russia is at war with EU. Europe must help Ukraine in defending its land and its people. Ukraine is fighting today in the name of all Europeans." http://www.bfm.ru/news/270986Never mind 820.000 refugees and Ukrainian military that fled to Russia. Can you imagine British fleeing to Germany during WWII? This is very dangerous rhetoric: she de-facto declares war on Russia from the name of the whole Europe. What is ironic, is that both Russia, Lithuania and Ukraine are par of Europe, Eastern Europe, but still - so Europe declares a war on itself, while the only one leaning back with the pop-corn will be the US... WWIII, here we come. The next step: EU/NATO launching a pre-emptive attack against Russia under the above pretext. So, any Europeans on this forum - did you know that you are already at war with Russia, according to Lithuania (who are firmly under the US thumb)? Are you ready to die for Ukraine? WWI was started under the pretext of Serbia. WWII was started under the pretext of Yugoslavia.WWIII is being started under the pretext of Ukraine. It seems that Russia once again will be called upon to perform the thankless task of ending yet another war, imposed on it from the West...  What history did they teach you in Russia ? Oh wait , the pretext was the invasion of Poland in which Russia also played a role. No wonder you're trying to avoid it. I thought you were asleep.  First of all, AGAIN!!! Not, Russia, but Soviet Union. Second, yes, I was wrong. It was the invasion Poland by Germany after a pretext provocation by Germans, dressed as Poles, attacking a German radio station. For some reason, I had also some events in Yugoslavia around that time at the back of my head. I am fixing my original post, and adding a few more thoughts. The main grotesque point of it stands, something that you completely avoided noticing - Lithuania has just declared war against Russia, also on your behalf. Let me add the required text: It was the invasion Poland by Germany after a pretext provocation by Germans, dressed as Poles, attacking a German radio station on 1st of September , one week after the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, while the Soviet invasion commenced on 17 September . Second , ww2 started because the attack on German citizens , now ww3 because the attack on russian citizens? Europe wants no war it's you russians who can't really stay in your damn country for more than a decade. You want another ww3 , probably you will get it. And after all , didn't you say a while ago that you live in the EU? It's going to be funny for you , more than for me. In the end , if Russia really wants war it will get it , and no matter how stupid it is probably i'll be back in the turret of a tank and end up dead just because some guy who has an inferiority complex (you know about his shoes don't you? ) wants to show that he is the lider or a "nuclear power". |
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The addresses are not the same...besides it's a building with a lot of numbers .. Google it to find lots at the same 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong
The addresses are the same, just phrased differently Sovereign Groups address is Suites 1601-1603, Kinwick Centre GES HK's address is Suites 01-03, 16th Floor, Kinwick Centre, 32 Hollywood Road, Central Hong Kong Get it, its the same thing, it is the 16th floor of this building and suites 1-3, aka 1601-1603. Also Sovereign is listed as their tax rep on their HK license documents. If you guys continue in this way in two months we will find out that Microsoft , Apple and Magic Mars Money are all behind this coin. |
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