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1361  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2007-10-3 4-Star General Wesley Clark: The US will attack 7 countries in 5 years on: June 16, 2014, 07:54:56 PM
Biggest one is owned by a russian company....

Don't you ever get bored with your anti western propaganda?

Lukoil is owned by a Muslim Azerbaijani, who has very close links to some of the American and British politicians. Azeris are one of the best allies of the US, in the FSU region. Real Russian companies such as Rosneft, Tatneft and Bashneft were ignored without any reason in favor of the American companies when the Iraqi fields were distributed.

I thought I saw you saying something about Lukoil previously but I coudn't remember where:

It really amazes me...NOT... that Gazprom would do such terrible things , just like the US and EU companies.

It is not the Gazprom which is stealing their land. Gazprom is basically a natural gas extracting company (although JSC Gazprom Neft, one of its subsidiaries engage in petroleum extraction). The culprits here are OAO Lukoil, owned by the billionaire oligarch Vagit Alekperov (who is originally from Azerbaidzhan). Lukoil is the second largest oil company in Russia, and Alekperov is in good terms with Putin.

1362  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gas supply cut-off deadline of $1.95 billion by 06:00 GMT on Monday. on: June 16, 2014, 07:50:46 PM
^^^ Everyone knows that Putin is not interested in adding the Donbass to Russia. So here are some of his options:

1. Support the rebels in Donbass. Send in the Spetsnaz and Omon, supply them with the latest weapons such as multi-barrel rocket launchers.
2. Make a secret deal with Poroshenko. Instant gas payment + recognition of Russian sovereignty over Crimea in return for withdrawal of support for the rebels.
3. Kiev agrees to the deal, Putin withdraws support, Donbass is conquered by the Kiev junta. Everything is peaceful once again.  Grin

There is one tiny flaw in this plan...
How will Putin face the public reaction of leaving Russian civilians in the hands of the Kiev government when withdrawing his support from eastern Ukraine?
Even with all the propaganda he is a master in , he won't escape unscratched.

The first thing is already happening.I don't see the second one coming true.
The US will do anything in it's power that no such deal is made.

I think that they have some hidden plan and the recent changes in iran - iraq might be a clue.
How long it will take to build a pipeline from Iran to southern Europe?




1363  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your view on shale gas exploration ? on: June 16, 2014, 07:44:30 PM
And with the new development in Ukraine the situation has changed 180%.

If last year the country has seen large protest against the fracking in some regions in Romania , for the first time this year I start to hear voices that are for the explorations.

What is worse , from people who last year were against it.

And , basically with nobody protesting anymore the first exploration for shale gas has been opened right at Silistea the place where all started last year.

Last year:




Now:

1364  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gas supply cut-off deadline of $1.95 billion by 06:00 GMT on Monday. on: June 16, 2014, 07:33:47 PM
^^^ Russia will send 185 million cubic meter though the Ukrainian pipeline, and the Ukrainians will steal at least one-third of that. This is a forgone conclusion. Perhaps it will convince Putin to send some support for the rebels in Lugansk and Donestk.

Even if they support the rebels in Lugansk , they will still need to take over the entire country to make the pipes safer.

And if they take over , they will also have to support the cost for rebuilding a demolished war country.
Not even talking about the fact that if Ukraine will join Russia , the debt will have to be waived.



Pretty interesting idea:

Why haven't the Ukrainians demanded for a 10% reduction of the debt since that gas was consumed by citizens of Crimea ? =)))
That would be hilarious
1365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NYC] New York Coin LAUNCH on: June 16, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
niothor
If you like what you said,BTC(NYC) is not unique,why many people accept BTC, BTC sell $600 - $1200 or many,People can create another BTC, Why?

Because you can't replace or create bitstamp btc-e bitpay or coinbase out of the blue.
You can't get 50 000 daily transactions on a new coin.

Bitcoin has the popularity and no other coin can't currently compete with it.

Nyc has none of the above , that's why a clone can easily match it.
1366  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: GHash is at 48% WTF on: June 16, 2014, 07:20:40 PM
http://fuk.io/cexio-ghashio-jeffrey-smith-interview-exclusive/
INTERVIEW UPDATED WITH 51% ATTACK QUESTION

Quote
We STRONGLY agree that no Bitcoin user should fully trust a single entity that they will not harm and manipulate users’ funds and assets, and we will soon present a valid solution to the “Achilles heel “ problem of Bitcoin, and will start an open dialogue with other pool owners to impose this solution.

Wow, I feel much better now. I can't wait for the pool operators to become the dirty dozen and begin "imposing solutions" on Bitcoin. Time to go all in. o_O


Even worse:

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We would also like to state that stopping sign ups and other actions of this type would only be a temporary solution, and there would be no guarantees that later on some other pool would get the percentage close to 51%, and their intentions would not be so true and assuring as ours.

We don't care for a temporary solution , let's all think a few years about another one.


1367  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gas supply cut-off deadline of $1.95 billion by 06:00 GMT on Monday. on: June 16, 2014, 07:15:27 PM
Bulgaria still has 2 months of gas stored. Enough time to settle this.

But I wonder , If gazprom cuts supplies to the south eastern countries , won't they be accused of breaching their contract? After al they can claim the same , they signed a contract in which Gazprom agreed to deliver gas. Bulgaria has payed for it , it's gazprom fault for not sending it.

The contract is signed by Gazprom as well as by the transit countries. For example, Bulgaria's supplies are guaranteed by both the Gazprom and Naftogas. Both will have to pay compensations.


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“Volumes of gas for European customers will be fully met in compliance with their contracts. Naftogaz must ensure transportation to the delivery points," Kupriyanov said earlier.

So the Eu will sue gazprom who will sue naftogaz and this will take a few years , and probably nothing will happen.

Pretty interesting fact about the percentages posted by rt



Although my country is shown with 87% dependency from Russian gas, that's 87% of the 27% we import to cover entire consumption.

According to the figures released by transgaz (national company) we need to close down only two chemical plants to sustain our consumption by our own.

Bulgaria has to make it to 2015 though

In December 2015, South Stream will deliver its first gas to Bulgaria,” Miller said.


But:

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Russia will also continue to send 185 million cubic meters of gas through Ukraine to European destinations.

So , no problem for the rest of the eu?
We will only have to deal with what Ukraine takes from the transit gas? (steals)

The whole thing is a mess.
1368  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gas supply cut-off deadline of $1.95 billion by 06:00 GMT on Monday. on: June 16, 2014, 04:56:35 PM
Transit supply to EU trough Ukrainian territory is still present.

Are you joking? Ukraine will steal the gas destined for Europe and the Russians will shut down the gas pipeline. It will happen within the next 24 hours. Germany, Poland.etc are going to be safe, thanks to Nord Stream. Serbia, Bulgaria.etc will have to live without any gas. Some small amounts can be transported through Blue Stream.... but that will amount to less than 5% of the demand.

Bulgaria still has 2 months of gas stored. Enough time to settle this.

But I wonder , If gazprom cuts supplies to the south eastern countries , won't they be accused of breaching their contract? After al they can claim the same , they signed a contract in which Gazprom agreed to deliver gas. Bulgaria has payed for it , it's gazprom fault for not sending it.
An optimal scenario is continue the supplies without compensations of stolen volumes. Then Naftogaz of Ukraine will be responsible for shortages, because they are transportation contractor.

I think that is is what happened in 2009 , right?
But there were no consequences ..
1369  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gas supply cut-off deadline of $1.95 billion by 06:00 GMT on Monday. on: June 16, 2014, 04:34:26 PM
Transit supply to EU trough Ukrainian territory is still present.

Are you joking? Ukraine will steal the gas destined for Europe and the Russians will shut down the gas pipeline. It will happen within the next 24 hours. Germany, Poland.etc are going to be safe, thanks to Nord Stream. Serbia, Bulgaria.etc will have to live without any gas. Some small amounts can be transported through Blue Stream.... but that will amount to less than 5% of the demand.

Bulgaria still has 2 months of gas stored. Enough time to settle this.

But I wonder , If gazprom cuts supplies to the south eastern countries , won't they be accused of breaching their contract? After al they can claim the same , they signed a contract in which Gazprom agreed to deliver gas. Bulgaria has payed for it , it's gazprom fault for not sending it.


1370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: June 16, 2014, 04:25:32 PM
Where is the embarrassment in the video?

I was talking about the embarrassment which was caused to the anti-BLM movement. Check the video, he was almost acting like an unofficial spokesman for the movement.

You know , with your views about the us government and constant criticism , I have the right to wonder , right ? Smiley

But the support for both  VanDerBeek and Bundy will go down after this.

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‘‘The only thing worse than tyranny is anarchy, and we certainly recognize that,’’ Bundy said.
Too late...
1371  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: June 16, 2014, 04:09:48 PM
Video of Jerad Miller Speaking at Cliven Bundy Ranch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LV3rwdEN80

What an embarrassment.  Angry

Where is the embarrassment in the video?
1372  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ‘VHS vs. Communism’ on: June 16, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
I remember those days when we got together at the guy who had a vhs videoplayer and watch the few movies we could get.

One funny thing is that if there was a power failure (those used to happen very often) everybody was scared that the "securitatea" might come to arrest us. There was a myth that they are doing so in order to block the tape inside the player to catch us in the act.

But there are rumors that the entire network was already controlled by the government and a few officials were making tons of money out of it.
A video player was half the price of a car at that time.


Also , one thing to note. There are a lot of jokes about her dubbing and most people agree that it was almost horrible , he had a squeaky voice.

http://www.chucknorrisvscommunism.co.uk/
1373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: (c ͡|Q ͜ʖ ͡o) [ANN][OPC] OPEC Coin POS stage, 2% per month. TipBot here! on: June 16, 2014, 10:01:18 AM
Maybe we should check the premine address.

oZVdX2HBpDgXowvBvvVX9QeqCBE3usmNac

Good idea, the dev probably dumped all his premine or he might be too busy with his OPEC meetings which is high priority right now.  Grin
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1374  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will a war start in Ukraine? on: June 16, 2014, 09:41:42 AM
With half of the city already deserted I don't think that there is too much to do.
And the city is not a large one to actually require thousands of troops to encircle but...concentration camps?

You forget that this territory (i.e. Donbass) is one of the most densely populated in Europe (only the Rhine-Ruhr metropolitan region in Germany is more urbanized, if I'm not mistaken), and cities are actually bordering with each other, so your remark about half of the city already deserted makes no sense (let alone "encircling" it)... Cool

So it is not about just one city, it is about taking under control the whole region, and what's even more important, keeping this control over the territory! Roll Eyes

With 164 inhabitants per square km , I can't call that the most densely populated area in Europe. =))
The United Kingdom has  255 for example.
And the Ruhr area 1,422/km2.

I don't know where you got these figures from, but the population of the Kramatorsk urban agglomeration is around half a million people. And there are other three (from which two are even bigger) agglomerations in the Donetsk region with a total population of around 4.5 million people... Cool

So you guess the military force required to control the area (Chechen population was around just one million inhabitants in the 90s)! Grin


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhansk_Oblast
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donetsk_Oblast

6 millions people in both spread over 50 000 km2.

For comparison the Ruhr area has twice the inhabitants in 1/7 of the area.
1375  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IL-76 with EU contractors shoot down in Lugansk. on: June 16, 2014, 09:35:10 AM
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26241.7/3124558/

Десантники, которые не десантники.

You had earlier posted that most of the dead people were mercenaries from the EU? Seems like all of them were Ukrainian citizens. Also, it looks like most of the dead were from the province of Zaporizhye.

You're taking burn wood 247crypto post seriously?
1376  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will a war start in Ukraine? on: June 16, 2014, 09:03:45 AM
With half of the city already deserted I don't think that there is too much to do.
And the city is not a large one to actually require thousands of troops to encircle but...concentration camps?

You forget that this territory (i.e. Donbass) is one of the most densely populated in Europe (only the Rhine-Ruhr metropolitan region in Germany is more urbanized, if I'm not mistaken), and cities are actually bordering with each other, so your remark about half of the city already deserted makes no sense (let alone "encircling" it)... Cool

So it is not about just one city, it is about taking under control the whole region, and what's even more important, keeping this control over the territory! Roll Eyes

With 164 inhabitants per square km , I can't call that the most densely populated area in Europe. =))
The United Kingdom has  255 for example.
And the Ruhr area 1,422/km2.

1377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NYC] New York Coin LAUNCH on: June 16, 2014, 08:42:57 AM


more people know NYC, support NYC,accept NYC in Future, NYC will return to value,Like the Internet domain name in the 1990s, a good domain name like gold, always shining, well-known companies have been



Failed comparison.A good domain name was unique in the 1990.
New York coin is not unique.

I can't have another google.com domain but i can easily create another New York coin with the same NAME same block time same number of coins.

And .. nobody knows NYC and from the links I've posted nobody supports it.


1378  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will a war start in Ukraine? on: June 16, 2014, 08:33:43 AM

Neither are Kramatorsk and Slavyansk actually. Don't take it at face-value when they tell you that the cities are "completely encircled". They are not, pro-government forces may actually control "major" (lol) roads around them, but they don't control the territory. As I said before, they just don't have enough manpower to do the trick of a total blockade (which would count for "completely encircled")...  Cool

Let's follow your assumptions for a moment.
How much in man power and numbers would they required do do this "trick" according to you?

Orders of magnitude if counting only by numbers. But it is not just sheer numbers, they would also have to carry out some form of "ethnic cleansing" (e.g. temporarily send the population to concentration camps or whatever they may be called, as Russians did in the Chechen wars)... Cool

With half of the city already deserted I don't think that there is too much to do.
And the city is not a large one to actually require thousands of troops to encircle but...concentration camps?

I can't believe you've said that?
Did the Russians send civilians to concentrations camps during the Chechen wars?
I think you are mistaken Wink
1379  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will a war start in Ukraine? on: June 16, 2014, 08:22:28 AM

Neither are Kramatorsk and Slavyansk actually. Don't take it at face-value when they tell you that the cities are "completely encircled". They are not, pro-government forces may actually control "major" (lol) roads around them, but they don't control the territory. As I said before, they just don't have enough manpower to do the trick of a total blockade (which would count for "completely encircled")...  Cool

Let's follow your assumptions for a moment.
How much in man power and numbers would they required do do this "trick" according to you?

1380  Bitcoin / Press / Re: India Enters Bitcoin Era on: June 16, 2014, 08:20:03 AM
I do not think India matters much at this stage anyway.
They will adopt soon enough.

Agreed. India is not as important as China to the Bitcoin sector. The GDP is only around 1.8 trillion, which is around one-fifth of that of China. Also, computer literacy and awareness is quite low. It will take a lot of time for the Indians to get familiar with Bitcoins.

Slovenia has only 45 billions and Bulgaria 51 in GDP , but if those two make the same movements as the PBoC made in China you can expect double digits bitcoin price.
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