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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border
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on: July 24, 2014, 04:54:08 AM
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But why no one saw the trail from the missile? Well.. that is the million dollar question. If it was a SA-11 Buk, then definitely there would have been a smoke plume 10 km+ long, which would remain in the atmosphere for a minimum of 3 hours. Strange that no one saw the plume. And we don't have any YouTube videos as well. Minimum 3 hours? From where did you pulled this out? Even the smoke from a spaceship is gone in less then an hour. Use your brain before posting things like this. In the other thread you posted that this trail of smoke would be visible from 50+km. Do you honestly believe a country would use this kind of missiles that would make them a clear target for any artillery battery or plane in the air for hours? I've witnessed two exercises of the 1st brigade at midia which has kubs launchers and trust me there was no trail left in 10 mins. Even the older volhov rockets which weight 2 tons won't leave a longer trail. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border
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on: July 24, 2014, 04:38:24 AM
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Ukrainian fighter jets were flying very close to Malaysian Flight 17 when it was shot down
Is THIS Why the Plane Was Shot Down?
Senior U.S. officials now admit that the Malaysian airlines passenger plane was likely accidentally shot down.
The Russian government claims Ukrainian fighter jets were flying very close to Malaysian Flight 17 when it was shot down. Others claim that Ukrainian fighter jets were escorting the Malaysian plane through Ukrainian airspace.
However, a Youtube video made a month before Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down alleges that Ukranian fighter jets were hiding behind passenger planes, pulling away temporarily, dropping bombs on Ukrainian separatists, and then hiding again behind the plane
Video and more... http://www.infowars.com/ukrainian-fighter-jets-hid-behind-passenger-plane-pulled-away-and-dropped-bombs-and-then-hid-behind-plane-once-again/Too me it seems more like a propaganda video to justify why the plane was shot down now that nobody believes it anymore that it wasn't the rebels who took it down. (besides Russians). They already started to admit they had the buk , that it was sent to them by...sooner or later they will admit they did launch the missile. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: So, I work right below the "poverty line".
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on: July 22, 2014, 09:37:30 AM
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$1,200 a month at 40 hours a week.
If I were to stop enjoying the company of my parents and go to my Airstream trailer on 2 acres of land with some chickens, would I suddenly turn into a victimized and oppressed liberal yelling for entitlements?
I am genuinely curious.
It's far more important what you can do with those 1200 in your area rather than the sum to understand if your poor or no. I doubt that in the us the is no difference between how expensive is to live in one city compared to a small town. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Oldest Man: 126 Yr-old Brazilian, Smokes Pack a Day
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on: July 20, 2014, 08:03:33 PM
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Jose Aguinelo dos Santos was born on July 7 1888, just two months after slavery was abolished in Brazil - the last country in the world to outlaw the trade. 1906: China formally abolishes slavery effective 31 January 1910, 1912: Siam (Thailand), formally abolishes all slavery. 1921: Nepal abolishes slavery.[66][67] ....... I start doubting the numbers in that article. |
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Other / Meta / Moderation in "Politics & Society"
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on: July 20, 2014, 07:55:34 PM
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I wonder if there is any moderation in this section anymore... The section has become a trashcan of threads started by 247crypto He started 9 separate threads in the last two days that cover only one subject (the flight mh17) while we have already two threads on this subject Further more his threads are pure garbage with one picture or link op and could easily fit as normal posts in the other two. Is there a way to merge those posts and clean up the sub-forum? |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border
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on: July 20, 2014, 01:09:27 PM
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And about this Ukrainian x Russian thing, by looking deeply into History we get the Slavs Gran-Duchy of Moscow against the Slavs of the Kingdom of Kiev; in other words, whatever those guys are doing there is called fratricide, taken Russians and Ukrainians are based upon the very same people.
Methinks, you're confusing time epochs. When there were "the Slavs of the Kingdom of Kiev" (Kievan Rus'), there hadn't yet been the Grand Duchy of Moscow (the latter established in 1283). And vice versa, when there was the Grand Duchy of Moscow, there had no longer been Kievan Rus (the latter demolished in 1240 by Tatars)...  BCEmporium, I was going to reply to you along the lines what deisik wrote. Adding only that we need not look that far in this case. This is indeed a civil war, or fratricide, as you put it, and it's a continuation of what was started in 1917-1920. The matters are further complicated in that there is not homogeneous Ukrainian army. There are conscripts who are not too keen to fight against their kin, there are private armies of Kolomojskij, Klichko, Avakov and their ilk, and there are ideologically brainwashed fascists of the Right Sector/National Guard, and finally there are Galicians, who see themselves more as part of the Austro-Hungarian/Polish world. In many cases they act at cross-purposes. So the shooting might well have been done by one of such military wings without a "go" from Kiev. And as you have started to write lately , you are seeing the black sheep only in the other yard not in yours also  . |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kiev try to shoot aircraft with mr. Putin?
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on: July 18, 2014, 12:02:38 AM
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you buffoon?
Are You trying to provoke the Moderator of this Forum? Niothor = Lost Dutchman ? A useful idiot or perhaps a paid moron, who knows. His white avatar gives him and his fellow internet-Warriors away very easy. How easy is to spot the red commies Who is not with us is against us he is paid by the opposition. This is why you Russians propaganda bots fail so miserably. You direct your hate at everyone arguing with you , making any discussion impossible. And if you have anything to say about my avatar .. where is yours? Oh sorry , newbie account made just to post bullshit on the board. Why I am not amazed? |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation.
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on: July 17, 2014, 11:40:58 PM
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Nothing is wrong with training kids on how to deal with guns. They will all join the army one day so better start when their young. I dont see us putting our kids in suicide vests and lets be honest. Hamas is no army, they are a terrorist group. Huge difference.
This is very wrong! If you train your country's children how to use guns and shoot the enemy then you will eventually have the children actually act as the military and attack your enemies. Most armys would hesitate to shoot at a child even if the child is putting the men in the army in danger. most sane people would refrain from shooting at a house knowing that there are children inside it. people like bob surplus obviously think that it is reasonable... when you view innocent women and children as legitimate targets then you become the monster that you claim to be fighting against. If there is a guy hiding behind a child or a woman with a machine gun firing at me trust me I will not hesitate a second before opening fire myself. I've only had the experience of being shot at twice but that was enough to make me think my life is more important than anything else on this planet. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kiev try to shoot aircraft with mr. Putin?
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on: July 17, 2014, 11:34:36 PM
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you buffoon?
Are You trying to provoke the Moderator of this Forum? No , I am invoking god to get rid of such a pest. I show you a material from russia today in which they claim the plane has never flied over Ukraine and you dismiss it as western propaganda. You're a buffoon and nothing more. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kiev try to shoot aircraft with mr. Putin?
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on: July 17, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
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There is no actual proof about the presidential plane flying over that course
Even russian sources are denying it.
You are blind or You can found only "news" that You like? http://russian.rt.com/article/41332should I spell it out loud in ENGLISH you buffoon? At the same time, there have been reports contradicting Intefax’s report that was the first and the only media source to publish the news, saying that Presidential plane was not flying over Ukraine at the same time.As a source told Gazeta.ru online news portal, Putin’s plane does take off from Vnukovo-3 [the terminal that accepts business jets], b ut the president does not fly over the conflict-gripped neighboring country.“Putin has only one jet – Board One, he does not fly other planes. This plane always takes off from Vnukovo-3, but the presidential plane have not been flying over Ukraine for a while,” the source at Vnukovo-3 terminal said. And please only post news in English ... It's a damn English forum here not a russian criminal organisation Again , the title on your beloved commie propaganda newspaper: http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/Reports that Putin flew similar route as MH17, presidential airport says 'hasn't overflown Ukraine for long time' |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kiev try to shoot aircraft with mr. Putin?
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on: July 17, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
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If this really was intended for Putin then their should have been a smoking gun ready to be found in the follow up. That blog entry looked suspicious and Kiev came out with "evidence" before they'd even begun investigating but mostly it looks like disjointed chaos. Was Putins flight plan known and on schedule and was everything to schedule with the downed flight? 40 minutes between flights is too close for coincidence, it was someones black flag op and they've the blood of 300 innocents on their hands.
There is no actual proof about the presidential plane flying over that course Even russian sources are denying it. At the same time, there have been reports contradicting Intefax’s report that was the first and the only media source to publish the news, saying that Presidential plane was not flying over Ukraine at the same time.
As a source told Gazeta.ru online news portal, Putin’s plane does take off from Vnukovo-3 [the terminal that accepts business jets], but the president does not fly over the conflict-gripped neighboring country.
“Putin has only one jet – Board One, he does not fly other planes. This plane always takes off from Vnukovo-3, but the presidential plane have not been flying over Ukraine for a while,” the source at Vnukovo-3 terminal said.
President Putin was on his way from Brazil, where he attended the BRICS summit, to Moscow. |
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