Centralized Vs. Decentralized
Any Paypal user, whether a buyer or a seller, will at some point run into issues with Paypal's centralized structure. For instance, I am on my second Paypal account currently after my first account was frozen, and all attached cards and banks were banned from future Paypal use. I had to create an entirely new bank account just to use Paypal due to arbitrary freezing of my first account. Bitcoin, on the other hand, is decentralized and I am completely certain that nobody has the ability to limit my access to my Bitcoin wallet, or to move funds from my Bitcoin wallet. Your $ in Paypal is just information stored and guaranteed by Paypal; likewise, your BTC in Bitcoin is just information stored and guaranteed by the Bitcoin protocol. The difference is that Paypal can rewrite your balance at any time, and it usually isn't $92 Quadrillion in your favor. Paypal is a centralized way to move money and the benefits of that are numerous: buyer and seller protection, chargebacks, etc. However, the abuse of centralized systems such as Paypal, Visa, and Mastercard has caused the average merchant to tack on ~10% premium on their prices to deal with associated transaction fees, and exponentially increased risks of fraud. This is the exact reason why most brick and mortar institutions will offer a cash discount, and also a Bitcoin discount should they chose to accept Bitcoin. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-vs-paypal/ May I ask why your account was frozen? There has to be a reason, people always say you are going to get your account frozen but you obviously have to do something bad for that to happen |
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Didn't know about that site but it looks really useful and potentially very profitable with a small investment. Some of them are just fucking amazing: £10 would return £3,598.25 that one seems incredible, probably not going to happen but it's definitely worth a try. |
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This is a forum afterall and people can talk about other people even if it's to prove they are scammers, spammers or they contradict themselves but if you feel someone is actually not doing that but instead just being annoying and trolling you can report it to the moderators, trolling is not allowed here so go ahead and report him.
He's not trolling. He's just being controversial. So, what's the big deal then? We should ban freedom of speech? Who are you Hitler? No. I just want to keep the discussion of other users on their trust rank page. We don't need to start campaigning against other users. Respectfully, I can decide for myself if I want to associate myself with another person. Talking about others will just create unprofessional drama such as people feeling offended or people getting into fights. I just can't take it anymore. And then people want to question why sites like this are the laughing stock of the entire internet. Bitcoin doesn't have that many chances of survival, so we're going to have to come together as a family and work hard to fight for our currency and our overall reputation. We can't do that if we're diligently trying to tear each other's reputations down inside of Bitcoin. I don't understand. Just come together instead of fighting each other. So if you are not against freedom of speech you can lock this thread. Your other points are all invalid at this point. People talk shit about other people everywhere and most of the times it's for a reason here in the forum. I don't see anything bad in exposing scammers or spammers, do you? |
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and what do i see in BCX's pic ?
leaving him positive feedback for "being a good guy"
uhhhhh WTF ?
@SpoetnikI left Vod negative feedback. ~BCX~ Is that a joke trust rating or do you actually mean it? I really hope not. You know you are doing something right when your untrusted feedback is all red from red people |
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This kind of anonymity makes a "hole" for terorist to keep bitcoin since it's difficult to track it down who the owner of the address.
At my country, still not have a law but it's still not legal as normal payment ( means : use bitcoin with own risk )
Terrorists are not using bitcoin tho and almost no criminals either since bitcoin is so volatile it wouldn't make sense for terrorists to convert 100 million dollars to bitcoin, it would be impossible and extremely risky, it's not going to happen All darknet markets where you can hire killers, buy drugs, weapons, etc, use bitcoin. So its a main currecy supporting criminal activity in the darknets. Thus why not terrorits? Maybe not good to sent 100 milion, but then to buy guns or probably bombs, require much less money, which can be paid by bitcoin. Because terrorists have existed long before bitcoin and there is no point in switching to bitcoins, have you ever seen any news about big terrorist organizations using bitcoins? No, because they don't and never will if they can use normal currency. |
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This is a forum afterall and people can talk about other people even if it's to prove they are scammers, spammers or they contradict themselves but if you feel someone is actually not doing that but instead just being annoying and trolling you can report it to the moderators, trolling is not allowed here so go ahead and report him.
He's not trolling. He's just being controversial. So, what's the big deal then? We should ban freedom of speech? Who are you Hitler? |
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today is not a good day to talk about bitcoin investement,because any hacking and phising activity this year. but if you really want invest your bitcoin,i suggest you to try bitcoin cloud mining,but you have to choose the most trusted and recomended by some people.
Yeah definitely do NOT listen to this guy. Cloud mining is the worst possible investment you can make, 99% of them are scam and even if it's not a scam you won't get much profit at all, if you want to mine just buy equipment for yourself instead of cloud mining . |
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Are you just betting randomly or what is going on here? If I understand correctly you lost almost all your bets, right? Are you analyzing the games or looking at stats or something like that or just random bets? I don't mean to disrespect you or anything.
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I think it's a rather distasteful practice but it will always be with us. If sig campaigns are gone, buying rep will still count for something no matter what happens.
If signature campaigns gone means more than 60% traffic to this forums also will reduce. Most people are active here because of signature campaign. Where do you get those numbers from? Signatures are fairly new and people was here before signatures, the peak of people online was in 2013 no signatures back then so deleting signatures will not affect the traffic of the forum at all, only spammers would leave, if you are here just because of signature campaigns means you are probably a spammer. |
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What are your opinions on PayPal or bitcoin for online shopping?
Bitcoin is best, but u will always need PayPal for those online stores that don't accept bitcoin when they don't accept bitcoin just change some BTC into USD I use BTC for steam products and want to use them for other products but unfortunately BTC's era has only begun. i hope soon that more BTC payable sites and shops will be available to us. it would be great to see some faster way of paying money online. BTC is much more safer, faster and personally just better than PayPal. i can’t wait to see the new trend of BTC developing more in various shops. This would cause a major difference to online shopping. how do you use Bitcoin with steam There are some external websites (not steam) that offer steam products for bitcoins, http://dispenser.tf is one of them, basically you deposit your bitcoins there and you can buy steam games, dlcs even items from steam games |
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Just asked this question to theymos . He told account farming is allowed but giving negative trust to account farmers is not discouraged too.. theymos
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Yes. I've said so publicly many times.
I don't recommend it, though. I don't broker/enforce account sales, so the original owner can probably always get the account back. It's also weird/shady/distasteful. And there are (essentially) no rules to trust ratings, so people are free to give account sellers negative ratings if they want. So jonald wont be removed from the DT as he did nothing wrong according to theymos' statement ! He wouldn't have got removed anyways, the only one who can remove someone from DT is the one who has that person on his trust list unless he abuses extremely theymos wont kick anyone out of DT |
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I think that making video on youtube is the best way and with a low risk.  If you are in that kind of stuff, streaming on twitch.tv it's most likely better, you only need a few thousand viewers to get a good monthly profit, meanwhile on youtube you will have to edit videos, get a lot and I mean a LOT of views to get a decent profit. For example the last video I uploaded had 30k views, only 2$ profit, of course if you have millions of views you are going to get much more. I thought the a common denominator over video earnings in Youtube was ~$1 / 1k views. What network have you partnered with? Or was it just Adsense? The problem with Twitch streaming is that you've got to have the skills for players to watch you - and not everyone has the talent for that. At least in YT you'd just have to be creative with cutting and editing videos to get some profit. No, the 1$ / 1k views is a lie, you don't get paid for views anyways you get paid for clicks on the ads. I personally get 1$ / 10k views on average but sometimes a video with 400 views can earn me 1$, it depends on the clicks. Twitch does not pay much in terms of ads but if you get subs and donations you can get a lot of money. Top streamers get easily 1k dollars only in donations. |
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This kind of anonymity makes a "hole" for terorist to keep bitcoin since it's difficult to track it down who the owner of the address.
At my country, still not have a law but it's still not legal as normal payment ( means : use bitcoin with own risk )
Terrorists are not using bitcoin tho and almost no criminals either since bitcoin is so volatile it wouldn't make sense for terrorists to convert 100 million dollars to bitcoin, it would be impossible and extremely risky, it's not going to happen |
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You're putting people in a job!
Practically employing people through using gambling sites.
Even if it is only one person that you are employing!
What do you mean exactly? Are you saying that gamblers are ''employers''? That's not the case since most people will end up loosing money rather than winning. And if you mean that gambling sites hire employers as in: Mods, admins, etc.. well yeah some of them do but that's not advantageous to people gambling. |
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This is a forum afterall and people can talk about other people even if it's to prove they are scammers, spammers or they contradict themselves but if you feel someone is actually not doing that but instead just being annoying and trolling you can report it to the moderators, trolling is not allowed here so go ahead and report him.
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I think my answer is yes.
There's nothing bad to sell your account if you don't use it.
Well of course, for the seller there is nothing wrong, he wins money and for the buyer, it's not bad either but what about other people who have been here for a long time and they didn't buy their accounts, they had to post and earn their rank, isn't it unfair that someone can just buy a high level account even with trust when other people have been here for years and some of them without any trust ratings at all. |
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Absolutely i will choose bitcoin for shopping.
No need to verification for register, fees is very small, and transaction is very fast.
Paypal can do this.
You mean paypal can't do that right? the only things that make bitcoin better than paypal are we dont need to upload our identity and of course low cost even with the high amount of transaction Yes. Paypal can't do that. Sorry little bit miss " 't ". When you create new account, especially in process verification you will have to upload personal information. Which i don't like that. But if using bitcoin, we don't need to verification, even for registration. Just download the wallet and you have account. That's why i love bitcoin it's so super simple and no one can't froze my money, no limit and low cost, not like paypal they can limited my account anytime and its really complicated to fix it First of all if paypal limits your account is for a reason. Second, what do you mean exactly with low cost? How does bitcoin cost less than using paypal exactly? And again if they freeze your money it's because you have done something that you shouldn't have. |
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-snip- EDIT : I just voted but why I can't see the results or anything on the poll ?  When creating the poll, OP selected: Only show the results after the poll has expired.
I voted yes. Reason being accounts are hardly if ever used for scamming or spamming. Accounts are rather expensive and with the community being quite cautious, escrow can be used or message are requested to be signed from an old address. It is very hard for any scammer to scam with an account bought. The change in posting times, style and sudden activity are clear indications. Spamming wise, accounts are usually marked with a high price and if any user scams, they would be banned from the forum, it's a waste of money. Farming accounts is rather bad but the community here requests high quality accounts for signature campaigns and most seller's don't spam up the forum due to this. Banning selling of accounts is too hard and would just push it underground. I personally sold several accounts and they were mostly used to spam constructively and none were used to scam. That's speaking from my personal experience though. Yes, it is correct. Results will be shown only after the end of the poll otherwise people may change mind. So we will wait until poll finish to see the results. I'm going with no considering that there has been some scams where sold accounts were used to scam, one example that comes to my mind is coinbooster. The sifter account was most likely a bought account.
And if anyone notices has a look at my recent posts they can tell that I usually do not interfere in selling of accounts but allowing account sales to happen is not the same as supporting/encouraging it.
If some one want to scam he/she will surely find a ways to do that but I don't think if any one sell accounts without green trusted accounts they can easily scam any one. We shouldn't make it easy just because scammers and people who intend to do bad things are going to find ways of doing it that's why I voted NO to make it harder for scammers. Afterall you don't need to buy an account here, you can create an account like you are supposed to do and start posting like you are supposed to do.
But it is just the amount of time spent in order to get to that level the account buyer wants is the problem. Why wait for 5-6 months if they have the amount of btc to pay for one now? That is what I am thinking this buyers are wanting from all of this in the first place, that time spent is more valuable to them then the btc. Because everyone has waited that time, it's not fair that someone can just buy a high level account when other people had to wait months for it. The buyers can easily wait 1-2 months and be able to do pretty much anything, afterall this is a forum and the ranks were supposed to be just an indicative. |
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-snip- EDIT : I just voted but why I can't see the results or anything on the poll ? When creating the poll, OP selected: Only show the results after the poll has expired.
I voted yes. Reason being accounts are hardly if ever used for scamming or spamming. Accounts are rather expensive and with the community being quite cautious, escrow can be used or message are requested to be signed from an old address. It is very hard for any scammer to scam with an account bought. The change in posting times, style and sudden activity are clear indications. Spamming wise, accounts are usually marked with a high price and if any user scams, they would be banned from the forum, it's a waste of money. Farming accounts is rather bad but the community here requests high quality accounts for signature campaigns and most seller's don't spam up the forum due to this. Banning selling of accounts is too hard and would just push it underground. I personally sold several accounts and they were mostly used to spam constructively and none were used to scam. That's speaking from my personal experience though. Yes, it is correct. Results will be shown only after the end of the poll otherwise people may change mind. So we will wait until poll finish to see the results. I'm going with no considering that there has been some scams where sold accounts were used to scam, one example that comes to my mind is coinbooster. The sifter account was most likely a bought account.
And if anyone notices has a look at my recent posts they can tell that I usually do not interfere in selling of accounts but allowing account sales to happen is not the same as supporting/encouraging it.
If some one want to scam he/she will surely find a ways to do that but I don't think if any one sell accounts without green trusted accounts they can easily scam any one. We shouldn't make it easy just because scammers and people who intend to do bad things are going to find ways of doing it that's why I voted NO to make it harder for scammers. Afterall you don't need to buy an account here, you can create an account like you are supposed to do and start posting like you are supposed to do. |
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