ok so just 1 yes/no question: Is it possible that Gavin gave the CIA a method to shutdown Bitcoin?
There is no easy method of shutting down Bitcoin. This thread is going nuts...
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If there were a transaction with a lot of single satoshi inputs, and a 0.0005 fee, would it ever confirm?
Haven't tried that yet, you are welcome to be the first
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Strange things are happening to this useful patch. Author and followers abandon support for it constantly. More than a year has passed, but there is nothing about it in official client, even "experimental" and "for advanced use only". WTF... P.S. Just my 0.02 btc, nevermind Actually i remember reading somewhere that this will be implemented in 0.7. Am I wrong ? No (...) BTW, You just did a double-negative answer which could be understood by me as "yes you are right" (Just fooling around here, don't mind me)
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Strange things are happening to this useful patch. Author and followers abandon support for it constantly. More than a year has passed, but there is nothing about it in official client, even "experimental" and "for advanced use only". WTF... P.S. Just my 0.02 btc, nevermind Actually i remember reading somewhere that this will be implemented in 0.7. Am I wrong ?
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No offense, but a trained monkey could write an OT client.
I'm writing one. WOW, there are monkeys on the interwebz ! I always suspected so, but never had any proof ! (Not that i have anything against monkeys, they are great animals)
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* ShadowOfHarbringer is watching this.
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Will coincontrol be merged into this version too?
What is this coincontrol about exactly ? Is it perhaps what i think it is - I mean ability to choose which coins to send when sending ? dude, you are really missing this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24784Sorry for not sleeping 2 hours a day so I can have time for reading every possible topic on this forum. Unfortunately i have a life and I sleep 8 hours a day. So yes, I am really missing this.
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Will coincontrol be merged into this version too?
What is this coincontrol about exactly ? Is it perhaps what i think it is - I mean ability to choose which coins to send when sending ?
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* ShadowOfHarbringer is watching this
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* ShadowOfHarbringer is watching this.
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They do not want you to understand how the system works because if everybody does understand, nobody will let it happen.
I will just leave this here: It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.
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Yes it does So you will be better off asking about this the core developers (Gavin Andresen etc). But perhaps it is a common error. Try google first.
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Try compiling the mainline version and tell me if it produces the same error.
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It is quite safe for everyday usage, if you keep certain rules (eg. not resending money which don't have enough confirmations yet). Sending money which have at least 7 confirmations should be 100% safe, always.
Please do not tell people that it is 100% safe. This is not true and the whole concept of thinking users can tell which money they're resending is wrongheaded, the client has free run to pick from whatever inputs it wants in the wallet. I have helped users unstick their wallets several times as a result of this patch. I've cautioned you about this in the past— and you responded by pointing out that you were direct about the risks and consequences. Now you violate that by claiming that it's 100% safe. This is a misunderstanding. I said: Sending money which have at least 7 confirmations should be 100% safe, always
I i wanted to say that I am certain that it is 100% safe, i would say that "IT IS 100% SAFE" or "I AM CERTAIN THAT IT IS 100% SAFE". If that is not clear enough, i don't know what is.
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I've not tried your fork yet, but does it just ignore the suggested fee or does it tell you about the suggested fee and offer the option of ignoring it?
It just ignores the fee if there is high probability that it won't be necessary. It is quite safe for everyday usage, if you keep certain rules (eg. not resending money which don't have enough confirmations yet). Sending money which have at least 7 confirmations should be 100% safe, always.
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It does work as intended. I was just trying to send from a wallet with too little in it. You don't need to test it, but thanks.
Glad i could help.
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Edit: Never mind it does work. I was just testing a wallet that only had .00051 in it and it refused to send anything without a fee, but if I used a wallet with more in it then it works.
Ok so I finally successfully built the windows version, but for some reason it is still requiring a fee. I have tried both 5.3.1 and 6.0rc4 and command line version without success. I checked the source I have and it does have your wallet modification. Would there be a reason why it wouldn't let me send fee-less? I am using gitian to build it.
Hmmm... this is indeed peculiar. However, there can be reasons it won't let you send without fee. For example, i believe the algorithm (in my fork and in official client) doesn't allow sending very small amounts, or amounts that does not have enough confirmations. I have not removed all safeguards against sending money without fee, just some of them. If you want to make sure it works as it should, you can build 0.3.21 version of the mainline client and compare the functioning of that with NFTF. If it is the same, then it works. Unfortunately, i dont't have time to test it now, because I am going on holidays. When I am back (about 8 april), I am going to test it thoroughly.
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what is a harbringer? one who brings hars?
Yes, i bring free har for everybody everyday ! FREE HARS !! Har har har har.... In no way is this a typo ! Don't even think about it !
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I am aware of the network effect. My question was rather rethorical. What I am actually asking is: "what have we done do diminish MtGox influence ?". . . It is quite obvious that in (maximum) few years some of world's Governments are going to start perceiving Bitcoin as a threat. ... Government will try to stop Bitcoin, that is only a matter of time. We kind of already know that is going to happen since the beginnings, so why so many people are still using MtGox ?
Bitcoin is no threat to anything other than itself, and that damage is so extensive at this point I doubt it will ever be a successful above ground payment system. It has perhaps been a useful prototype for the payment system(s) that will instantly dwarf it there is actually a market for such things. There is a bitcoin "underground economy" that is likely to persist amongst aficionados. For that matter I think you can still actually do things with Linden dollars ( Second Life ), but if you think bitcoin isn't fully surrounded and contained, I can only say sorry you got to the party so late. You are actually trying to start discussion about whether Bitcoin is/will be successful and whether it is a good currency. But this is a matter for another discussion.
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