Regarding this, "Obama says 'bigger nations cannot simply bully smaller ones'. Wait... what?" don't forget that the whole reason he won the election in the first place is because the majority of people here believed that bigger nations shouldn't bully smaller ones, and Obama heavily campaigned on and supported that idea. G W Bush was the guy who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Obama was picked to get US the hell out of there, so I'm not sure you can hang that mess around his head (unless you believe US should have remained in Iraq to provide "security."

It's already on our ToDo list from the time someone suggested exporting it for merchant/sales purposes.


It's similar to Localbitcoins, but it's not affiliated with Localbitcoins in any way. We just made a similar service that's easier to use.

I lost track of where we were, how much we had, and whom we've donated to, so had to take some time to catch up with accounting:


      ฿147.37624104  Assets
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         ฿1.10000000    Freequant_Wallet
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         ฿2.00000000    Teukon_Wallet

      ฿652.21791698  Expense
       ฿652.20841698    Contributed_to_Charity
         ฿0.00950000    Transaction_Fee

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       ฿-43.00000000    MemDeal_Contributed
        ฿-2.00000000    Teukon_Contributed


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88 charities so far, and now that I have a list of which we have yet t donate to, it'll go up by a few more in a bit.

DOH! That's why the statue looked so familiar. I saw the original in Florence just 1.5 years ago. Embarased that I didn't recognize it. Sorry that happened though.

Regarding the painting, can you explain the various achetypes a bit? I get the gambler (is that Micon?), and the anonymous guy, but the rest I'm not entirely sure about.

They are probably illegal aliens that snuck into Alaska from Russia to escape the oppressive Russian government 

But, seriously, there is a sizeable Russian population just north of Washington DC, and north of Miami. Doesn't mean that the territory is russian, or that those people want to go back to russia. On the contrary, the sizeable populations there are there from the time they were trying to escape USSR.


Regarding this petition, I'm wondering if maybe Alaskans think of Obama as being a repressive communiist type, and Putin as an awesome ride-a-bear-shirtless type, and think they would be better under strong manly Putin than weak communist Obama. Without realizing that Russia is a ton more oppressive than USA. If Alaska was entirely populated by Sarah Palins, I wouldn't put it past them, but since I know the people there are much smarter than that, yeah, I think this is a joke.

Source? From what I read about him, his actions, and the way things were reported about him, I got the sense that he viewed the Republican right as control-your-life corporatist big government crony types, and supported the more liberal side. I agreed with him: of the two sides, Republicans and Democrats, the Republicans have seemed way more imperialist, totalitarian, and downright crazy over the last decade. Moreso than democrats. And since he was supporting democrats and opposint republicans, the far right media painted him as some crazy socialist, communist, antibusiness boogieman type, despite him putting a ton of effort into undermining communist and totalitarian regimes. I always thought it was rather funny and ironic that Fox News pundits called him an Obama supporting communist, considering how much effort and finance he contributed to the downfall of USSR, and how anticommunist he is.

One of those US invaded for their own made up BS reasons. The others had their own spontaneous revolutions that the US was totally unaware of and unprepared for, and the CIA was embarased for not predicting. Guess which.

That sign behind him, "Хто любить МЕН" ... Who loves men???

This may be a problem since, as I mentioned, when parts of Ukraine became a part of Poland, or any other country, that doesn't mean that the entire area was empty, and then Poland with polish people just moved in. Ukrainians already lived on that land, and the "part of" country was considered to have been occupying the land and suppressing the existing population. Even to the point where Ukrainians were being taken into slavery. Obviously that is very old history, and Poland is doing very well economically, having never fully accepted the whole Communism thing, but that old history very likely still has people having resentment for Poland. In a way it's like asking Poland to reunite with Germany, since Poland was part of it at some time during the Nazi invasion.


"Military Equipment" =/= Military. This sounds more like the plan in Lybia, where US just want to send them weapons and equipment so Ukrainians handle the situation themselves if they have to.


Funny that the entire situation is with Ukrainian president stealing $7billion of foreign aid from Ukrainian government, and trying to impose dictatorial rule, for which he was deposed, and Russia decided to stick its nose into the situation, caused a ton of issues, and is now complaining about being victimized 

After we release Local Trader. For now we don't know enough to be more specific than that.


Just hitting back and getting to the main wallet screen is enough to wipe the Cold Storage key from memory.

Asked, and got a reply:


So, um, I think they're ok...

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Also, some new applicants:


I asked them for their website...

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I asked them when they started to accept bitcoins.

Sorry for the delay. With all the bitcoin conferences, furry conventions, and job transitions I'm doing, I haven't had much time to catch up.


Bitcoin donation option added, and $1,000 sent:
https://blockchain.info/tx/717b2f7f9d77bf634a4dfdb5c425658565a1bb7eee7257a1fc7f253809779502

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They added a bitcoin donation option as well, so another $1,000 sent https://blockchain.info/tx/f0b9ca4a999cb28eb13ca2740245c71f15cac71c547347c538242cbc1b37a128

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And OH WOW these guys took their time


They finally got their issues sorted with BitPay (whatever they were *shrug*) and added a bitcoin donation option, s yet another $1,000 sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/0663449080346a1b59de34b5afabd3cce9a7c97fdb6188cc2ab5a09fa1232c91

They could hate Russia? Seems a lot of bad stuff has been coming out of that area. Maybe it's something with the culture. I don't know, but I don't see things improving much since Tsarist or Soviet rule. Perhaps people have been under authoritarian rule for so long that they thing it's the normal and better way to live? *shrug*


It's ok for everyone to hate Germany. They kinda deserved it with Hitler   (and Ukraine was stuck fighting on two fronts, Nazis killing Ukrainians because they were in the way of Russia, and Russians killing Ukrainians because they considered joining Nazis, thinking they were a better option than Soviets... Seriously, think about it, Ukrainians thought Nazis were a better option than Soviets -.-


I am quite aware and quite concerned about that too. I think the US revolution was more of a fluke in world history, with most other revolutions typically turning for the worse. Then again, Ukraine was practically becoming a dictatorship, and the people there are decent, so I'm not sure if it could get worse than where it was going.



I know, but it's not propaganda. Yes, the hunger extended to other regions as well, but Ukraine being the breadbasket, and at the time refusing to form collectives or give up its produce, I think it was subjected to it the worst. Besides starvation, a lot of people were also killed, just in a line-up-and-shoot style, when they refused to give away all their farm stuff and the military rolled in to confiscate it. Lately it seems the propaganda has mainly been from Russia, trying to claim that it wasn't that big of a deal (despite something like $3 to $6 million dying in Ukraine alone). My grandfather was a university student when that was going on, and he remembers seeing dead bodies on the street quite often. It dehumanized everyone to the point that if someone was killed by some accident, no one even looked or cared.



Wasn't the Civil War the fight between Red Army Bolsheviks, and White Army Mensheviks? My early Soviet history is mostly from the time I learned it in Soviet Union, plus whatever little my parents told me, so I'm at a severe disadvantage there.


I don't disagree. Frankly, I don't see what the hoopla is about Crimea wanting to leave. It was Russian, it is inhabited by mostly Russians, and it wants to go back to Russia. Who cares. My main two concerns are that I'm not so sure that Crimea would do better under Russian rule (which I really see as more of a fledgeling theocratic totalitarianism than democracy), instead of becoming an independent republic with economic trade with both Ukraine and Russia, and the second concern is about all the anti-Ukrainian propaganda coming out of Russia. Sure, the overthrow of government wasn't legal, and the current government is not legal, but law is a product of government authority, and is DOES NOT mean the same thing as moral or ethical. Yanukovich's rule was neither moral nor ethical (nor democratic at the end). Regardless of how he was taken down, it was a good thing that he was. My overall position is strict antiauthoritarian, so it doesn't really matter to me whether something was "legal" or not. If someone is trying to be a dictator, kick his ass out by any means necessary.

Perhaps the reason there is so much russian propaganda about Ukraine being taken over illegally by fascists, or how the protestors (some of whom I know personally) were evil and violent, while the government were just innocent defenders, or how Ukrainians are scared of the fascists and fleeing the country into Russia (despite the border crossing being empty), or how Ukrainians are attacking and killing innocent Russians (despite most of them not giving a shit, and many speaking Russian as their first language), is because Russia is afraid that their own people might rise up and revolt against their government, which has been doing a lot of the same type of evil BS that Yanukovich got into.

Ukraine didn't really feel very independent. We were still forced to pledge allegiance to Lenin and Moscow, to serve the Soviet military, etc. The general opinion we had under USSR was that Russia was in charge. And when Ukraine broke off from Soviet Union, it was in a way like breaking off from Russia (probably because Moscow was the seat of power)



I may be biased, because ""Soviet Russia" seriously f'ed the hell out of my family, with father's side fighting for the White Army, and mother's side coming from a royal family that was subject to pogroms and exterminations. So, at least for me and my family, it was sorta personal.


I consider the foundation of Kievan Rus in ~800 AD to be the foundation of what is now Ukraine. No, Kievan Rus was not Russia. Yes, the territory was originally a bunch of tribes, but it was unified under Kievan Rus. Everything you mentioned from the foundation of Kievan Rus, until it's destruction by the tatars is right, but everything after 1150 AD is not.
The power in that area has shifted constantly after 1150 AD, but not because the people living in Ukraine became Polish or Russian or whatever. They were conquered and occupied by various countries (that tended to plunder their food and resources, and take them into slavery). They did not consider themselves to be a part of their occupying country.
At a certain point, Ukrainians tried to establish independence from the ever occupying forces by forming a self defense force and a paramilitary government, led by the cossacks. The people living there, regardless of being from different origins, did not want to be a part of Poland or Russia. Nor did they coonsider themselves just an "outskirts" of their occupying country.
Keep in mind, when some country invade a piece of land, that land already has its own people with their own identity living onit. Just because USSR occupied Ukraiine, does not mean Ukrainians considered themselves Soviets. Just as just because USA occupied Iraq, that didn't mean that Iraquis coonsidered themselves Americans. So, for a really long time, Ukraine and Ukrainians considered themselves their own people and country, up to the point where USSR took them over, and again since USSR broke apart.


I agree, if in that analogy Cuba is Ukraine, USA is Russia, they both are completely separate countries until one occupied the other, and instead of 500 years it was only about 70 or 80.

СССР украл дом (дворец) моей бабы Циолковской (да, те Щиолковские), и привратили его в ясли. Не думаю что вернут украденное.

I was not aware.


So, Ukraine got money out of Russia by whoring Crimea out to Russia so that Russia can build military bases there. But, in the end, the whore fell in love with the john, and Crimea decided to just be a part of Russia? My question was more like whether Crimea was producing something economically, and that product (or heavy taxation) was being stolen by Ukraine to be distributed among the rest of the people up north. (I know Crimea was a net producer of tax revenue, but I don't know if that was entirely thanks to Russia paying for the base, or something else).
I'm kinda wondering if the reason Krim decided to join Russia was simply because Ukraine government fell appart, and they are hoping Russia can keep providing them with government services.


USSR was a product of Russia. The Red Army didn't come out of nowhere to fight over Ukraine, they came out of Russia, after the Russian Revolution (my dad's side of the family fought for the White Army, btw, which put that side of my family on a blacklist through USSR's existence). Russia conquered the rest of the republics, and formed the Soviet Union. Even if you say "Russia didn't own..." the ruling party, along with the pogroms, holodomors, and the rest of the terrible Soviet rule, came out of Moscow, in Russia. It's why so many ex-Soviet republics hate Russia now. Not necessarily Russians but just Russia.

They? Who are these "they?"

I was born in Kiev, I have family in Lviv, I have friends in Kiev, including some who were helping out on Maidan, and I was going to a Saturday Ukrainian school from 6th to 12th grade (like Sunday School, but on Saturdays, and not religious). There I had classes on Ukrainian history, geography, culture, and literature, starting from the founding of Kiev, all the way to the slaughter of the last remaining Ukrainian cossacks at the beginning of the 20th century. For 6 years. So, yeah, I guess I have a high school degree in Ukrainian history.

Old source, and though still repeated, is not true.. At this point, the estimate is that before the plague, America's population was anywhere between 20 and 100 million. And those large numbers (90%+) were wiped out accidentaly, not by a deliberate spread of smallpox.


If you wish to insist that the name Ukraina comes from "okraina," meaning "outskirts" and ignore this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Ukraine#Alternative_interpretation_as_.E2.80.98region.2C_country.E2.80.99


then at the least you have to acknowledge that the "outskirts" it refers to are NOT "outskirts of russia" but "outskirts of Kievan Rus."

It's a bit weird that some here are even suggesting that Ukraine and Russia are the same country. Kievan Rus was founded 200 years before the founding of Russia, beginning with Moscow, even if it was by the same nobility. Since that time, throughout Ukraine's history there has been a very clear divide between Russia and Ukraine, to the point that Russia warred with Ukraine at one time, and asked for its help to fight against Poland at another. They are separate countries. So the idea that because Russia owned Ukraine under USSR, and Russia was founded from Ukraine, means that Russia should just take Ukraine back, is ridiculous.

Frankly, I think Kiev should have just kept their nukes, and then taken Russian territory back under Ukraine instead.

As for Crimea, it's rather ironic that some are using the word "unconstitutional" and "USSR" in the same sentence. I didn't realize soviet communists gave a shit about laws or rights. Crimea wasn't being "occupied" either. It was a redrawing of political boundaries within the same country, which made little difference, and the borders simply remained after USSR fell apart. Were Crimeans being abused by Ukraine? Does Crimea even have any economic value besides tourism and a naval base?

Not true. Over 90% of the natives died as a result of a plague brought by the first explorers, way before most of the settlers got here. It was a literal apocalypse:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america.html


It didn't become Russia. Russia and Ukraine have been separate countries for a very long time. Yes, in Russian there is a work "okraina" whic means "outskirts," but in Ukrainian there is a word "kraina," which means "country." I suspect Russians have been trying to turn "Ukraina" into something similar to "okraina" for quite some time, but that's not the meaning. Also, when Kievan Rus broke apart in 12th century, Russia was still fairly far away, as a separate country. Only time Kiev or it's borders were considered part of Russia or Poland was when Ukraine was temporarily conquered by them. Otherwise it was still a separate country, before and after (and now). I'm sure Russia would love to clam that Ukraine is just a borderland of their own territory, and take it "back" as it had it under USSR, but, no thanks :/


Yeah, fuck those people who want to have their own country and not be ruled by foreign theocratic dictators!

This map doesn't make much sense, considering Ukraine was founded starting with Kyiv, as Kyevan Rus, in 600AD, something like 200 years before Russia even existed. It was a pretty powerful country, back when Russia was just a backwater farm and woods thing. If you want to talk history, start from there, not from much later when Ukraine was invaded, constantly harassed, and broken up by mongols, Russia, and Poland.