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941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion on: February 06, 2017, 12:02:29 AM
We need 7 BTC of volume on Bittrex within the next 5 days.  Please sell to yourself a little if you have coins there.  Thank you

Begging for fake volume is a new low, even for Vtrash.

Sorry, but Vtrash is dead and it's never coming back.
942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: February 05, 2017, 11:59:25 PM

TEST 12 is offline. It was successful. "Disjoint Groups" is proven to work correctly, same for "Resource proof". My guess is that we'll see TEST 12B in the coming days when some issues in Crust (low IP-layer) are fixed.  


Still relevant:

Maidsafe when?

test n+1

where n -> ∞
943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 04, 2017, 10:39:19 PM
I just listened to the entire podcat and didn't hear a single lie or stretched truth.

Where did Tone and/or Riccardo resort to "lies and stretching of the truth?"

Please cite a specific quote and provide the minute:second for context.

Patience, my young Padawan... I am preparing something and will make my mark soon after the upgrade. But it won't be here. It may be awhile before someone here answers you about ANYTHING, because they all have you on ignore.

You accused Tone and Riccardo of being liars.

Provide evidence, or you are the liar.

You don't need to prepare something elaborate and make your egotistical "mark."

You are making this simple request harder than I asked as an excuse for not being able to prove your assertion.

A singular example of either of them not telling the truth will do.  You don't need to write an essay, or even a single sentence.

Just give me the Minute:Second of the video where you believe Tone or Fluffy lied.  Can you do that?

Put up or shut up.


TFW DashHoles call people liars but cannot provide evidence
944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 04, 2017, 09:06:03 PM

Videos like the one Tone Vays and Riccardo did just show that this is the case. Resorting to lies and stretching of the truth to "critique" dash reeks of desperation from someone whose own project is not faring nearly as well.



I just listened to the entire podcat and didn't hear a single lie or stretched truth.

Where did Tone and/or Riccardo resort to "lies and stretching of the truth?"

Please cite a specific quote and provide the minute:second for context.

This is the second time I've asked a DashHole claiming Tone and Riccardo are liars to provide evidence in the form of an example.

The only lies I see are the ones you crazy Duffontology shills tell about how the Instamine A) Never Happened and B) Was A Good Thing.

945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 04, 2017, 05:33:55 PM

Who is Tone Veys?

Tone is a really cool guy.

Tone is an active, high profile Bitcoin investor.

DashHoles were singing his praises back when Dash was the *only* altcoin he liked.

But Tone was suddenly labeled as a "troll" after he discovered Evan's Instamine and dropped Dash like a hot, toxic potato.

Now that I've answered your question, why don't you try to answer this one?

Quote from: fluffypony


I see you're hard at work today. Thought you might get a break after that little staged hit piece Wink

No rest for the wicked it seems  Wink


It sure is easier to attack-the-attackers than justify the existence of Dash's scam-funding failed governance, isn't it?



Better rest your pumping arm Tao.  You don't want to get carpal tunnel syndrome from too much repetitive #DashSpam posting.   Grin
946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 04, 2017, 05:01:12 PM
Who is Tone Veys?

Tone is a really cool guy.

Tone is an active, high profile Bitcoin investor.

DashHoles were singing his praises back when Dash was the *only* altcoin he liked.

But Tone was suddenly labeled as a "troll" after he discovered Evan's Instamine and dropped Dash like a hot, toxic potato.

Now that I've answered your question, why don't you try to answer this one?

Quote from: fluffypony

947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 04, 2017, 04:20:18 PM

Dash got fucking REKT in that interview based on its past AND its present.

I'll need to start one of those "bitcoin obituary" things for Dash, except a #REKT one  Cheesy

(Could maybe superimpose it on top of a steadily growing 21-week EMA for effect).

No shortage of contributions to choose from anyway (although all from only about 3 1 people sadly)   Sad


It sure is easier to attack-the-attackers than defend Dash's shortcomings and failures, isn't it?

Keep it up.  Show the world the Dash community fails to respond substantively to criticism because they are incapable of justifying obvious money grabs like Evan's Instamine and Masternode oligarchy.

948  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than 50,000 unconfirmed transactions on: February 04, 2017, 04:02:25 PM
So I've finally got the in-laws on board with bitcoin.  

That was 18 hours ago, and now they think I am an idiot.

This is EPIC FAIL of marketing 101.

Still unconfirmed and I am on the ropes trying to make excuses.

Gee that's funny, somehow other people manage to use Bitcoin all the time, every day, for millions of dollars worth of commerce.

But here you are, extrapolating into some assumption of general failure your singular personal impotency to successfully spam the One True Blockchain with a trivial bit of "demonstration" dust.

You seem to be stuck in 2011, back when Bitcoin was still more of a tech demo and less of a production system.

Please join the rest of the world in 2017 and use an alt chain to demonstrate how blockchain based tx work.  Or use one of the many Bitcoin test nets.

You're not an idiot, but you were acting like one and with your over-entitled foot-stomping poutraged tone are sounding like one.

Pro Tip: Honey Badger does not GAF about your staged attempts at marketing to in-laws.

Bitcoin is working perfectly.  Your skills are "obviously just not ready for prime time."   Wink

 Cry  WOW, great job marketing Bitcoin! It's a wonderful "production system" that's "working perfectly"! And I'm so glad you didn't insult him! /s   Cry Cry

 Angry  ignoring you, so don't bother trolling me.   Angry


Too late son.  You already done got trolled, big time!   Cheesy
949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 04, 2017, 03:51:03 PM
Tone Vays and Fluffy cannot be simply ignored and labeled as trolls.


Too late, that ship has already sailed. I think they are both very open about being contrarian trolls and would take offensive to you suggesting otherwise. Tongue They wear it as a badge of honor like the BU guys  Roll Eyes

I have not taken the time to listen yet but from what has been reported they/fluffy purposely got a lot of the facts wrong and tone was totally uneducated on our features like the DGBB funding. Tone is a BTC maximalist and his shtick is trolling all the alts, he's harmless.


I'm sure somebody will debunk all of it line by line at some point. It has already mostly been done in slack, youtube and on reddit. Sounds like Fluffy is reading from the same old script that myself and others have debunked long long ago.
Tao may be putting something together, I don't have time right now and the next week or so is going to be totally crazy for a lot of us.
 I've linked one of my old post debunking monero's old scripts for whoever wants to do a proper line by line response to the FUD.

November 19, 2015, 05:41:24 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13018214;topicseen#msg13018214

Your ancient 2015 post does nothing to debunk the latest/current Dash issues discussed on Tone's show, such the unresolved fiasco with Lamassu ATM integration.

When did Tone Vays say he was a "contrarian troll?"

Last I heard, he was the darling of the dirty DashHoles.

Tone is a really cool guy.

If Tone actually is "very open" about being a "contrarian troll" it should be easy for you to find a link to back up your unsourced assertion.

You also assert "they/fluffy purposely got a lot of the facts wrong" yet do not specify even a singe example of a fact they got wrong.

Try to RTFA before parroting the gainsaying and spin from your cult enforcers.

Credit where due to Macno for recognizing that simply calling everyone and everything a "troll" isn't going to fix the PR problems resulting from Dash's Instamine, Masternode HYIP, centralized governance, unaccountable project spending, etc.

Pretending there was nothing new in the Tone/Fluffy interview makes you a liar.  How can they be reading from "the same old script that myself and others have debunked long long ago" when they discuss topics that are new and ongoing (such as Dash's shady DGBB funding)?

Just face it, Dash got fucking REKT in that interview based on its past AND its present.

EG, https://youtu.be/VrKU0Ymta-U?t=35m20s

Quote
(Fluffy) "The problem here is that Masternodes voted for [the expensive, fruitless Lamassu integration project] and it was paid for from that central budget..."

(Tone) "Ahhhh [Now I grok why Dash's wasteful projects indicate a failure of their governance model]!"

(Fluffy) "...it's now like, WHAT'S THE POINT OF YOUR VOTING AND GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE IF YOU'RE FUNDING SCAMS?"


Your flimsy Clinton Defense ("that's old news") doesn't do anything except make you look brittle and unable to offer a better refutation.

And then there's this:  http://praisemonero.org/?extUrl=https://www.dash.org/

Now that is some major league trolling!   Cool Cool
950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 04, 2017, 07:30:01 AM

Please update your spin doctor copypasta with

Official Instamine Clarification
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/official-dash-instamine-issue-clarification.7569/.

Thank you for contributing to greater public awareness and discussion of Dash's Instamine.
951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 04, 2017, 06:26:34 AM
Tone Vays is talking about Dash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKU0Ymta-U


Thanks for the link.  That's a great introduction to Dash!

Hilarious, good fun.  I could easily spend all day watching Tone and Fluffy yuk it up.   Cheesy

Tone does a very good job covering many aspects of Dash's premeditated investment fraud, centralization, ignoble scumbag origins, questionable governance, technological shortcomings, current failures, and irrational future expectations.

Tone Vays used to be a vocal fan of Dash.  In fact, Dash was the *only* altcoin he liked (being a Bitcoin maximalist supremacist).

Then Tone discovered the truth about Dash's indefensible, scummy Instamine and trusted third party Masternode security holes.

In the eyes of the Evan's Gate cargo cult, this makes Tone a "troll."

My, how times have changed.

Tone Vays gives an endorsement to Dash in the latest Bitcoin Group Show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG-_UzSeOKk&feature=youtu.be&t=191

Great! Tone is a really cool guy.

Tone is a really cool guy.

Tone is a really cool guy.

952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: February 04, 2017, 05:54:09 AM
Hi folk.

Notice: cryptozoidberg on  boolberry.herokuapp.com is a fake.


Zoidberg


Any way to crypto-verify who is telling the truth here?

It's possible (albeit less likely) the CZ account here is hacked and the herokuapp one is real.   Huh Huh Huh
953  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than 50,000 unconfirmed transactions on: February 03, 2017, 11:59:09 PM
So I've finally got the in-laws on board with bitcoin.  I've set them up a Coinbase account and given them an Electrum wallet.

To demonstrate how to use the Electrum wallet, I send them a small amount with the default 0.0005btc/btc as the fee from mine.

That was 18 hours ago, and now they think I am an idiot.

This is EPIC FAIL of marketing 101.

Still unconfirmed and I am on the ropes trying to make excuses.

This technology is obviously just not ready for prime time.

Gee that's funny, somehow other people manage to use Bitcoin all the time, every day, for millions of dollars worth of commerce.

But here you are, extrapolating into some assumption of general failure your singular personal impotency to successfully spam the One True Blockchain with a trivial bit of "demonstration" dust.

You seem to be stuck in 2011, back when Bitcoin was still more of a tech demo and less of a production system.

Please join the rest of the world in 2017 and use an alt chain to demonstrate how blockchain based tx work.  Or use one of the many Bitcoin test nets.

You're not an idiot, but you were acting like one and with your over-entitled foot-stomping poutraged tone are sounding like one.

Pro Tip: Honey Badger does not GAF about your staged attempts at marketing to in-laws.

Learn from Bill Gates, and do a trial run to make sure your demo works BEFORE making a fool of yourself.   Cheesy

Bill Gates Failure Windows 98 Crashes on Live TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er8g6D_PqvY

Most importantly, stop blaming Bitcoin for your lack of understanding and technical ability (IE basic Bitcoin competence).

Honey Badger is not obligated to indulge you by doing cheap tricks on command just to make you look cool/smart in front of the in-laws.

Bitcoin is working perfectly.  Your skills are "obviously just not ready for prime time."   Wink
954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 03, 2017, 09:49:44 AM
Mycelium integration...
Development of the Mycelium Bitcoin architecture still needs to be improved on Mycelium side. This unfortunately stops the work on Dash part.
Tomasz Ludek cooperates with Mycelium developers on changes in architecture design.
Detailed updates available in the following location: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/mycelium-integration.10541/

Progress and changes
Over the last month implementation concept on Mycelium side evolved and triggered schedule changes. New schedule (v.1.1) is available in the same location (listed above).
Currently Leo (Mycelium team) works to adopt bitcoinj library, using our SVP server (for Bitcoin operations). At the same time Tomasz (Dash team) develops the same functionalities for Dash.

Why is the Mycelium project update thread locked?

Why was this stagnating project advertised as "Dash Integration Come October 2016?"

Is there any accountability here?  Can this kind of wasteful stalemate happen again?
955  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: February 02, 2017, 08:37:24 PM
Well, it looks like SF's DA learned something about preorders and false advertising after all:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/13/lily_robotics_faces_lawsuit_for_false_advertising/

What a silly attempt at argument by analogy.  The Lily Robotics case is completely unrelated to HF, other than also being located in SF.

It's hilarious you must resort to grasping at such hopelessly weak straws, since the rest of your defamatory nonsense got BTFO by two different Judges.

You never put any of your own money into the bankruptcy/fraud efforts because you knew they would be fruitless, yet you still goaded others into pursuing the exorbitantly expensive and utterly counterproductive Let's All Lawyer Up And Fight strategy.

How many times did you proclaim your lawyer's case against HF would be easily won in court, and the judge would send people to jail?  Two dozen?  Three dozen?

Mmmm ya...that never happened.  You didn't even bother to participate in the two three USELESS years of ensuing court drama THAT YOU HELPED PROVOKE.

Posting off-topic trivia about irrelevant current events is your way of avoiding cognitive dissonance and the sting of being completely wrong (and worst of all, losing the long-running debate to your nemesis, iCEBREAKER!  Cheesy).

956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash Detailed: Lamborghinis Evan Duffield bought with 2 mil dash coin instamine on: February 02, 2017, 07:52:45 PM
Are you envious of criminals? I wouldn't quite call this feeling envy, more disgust.....

I see where you're coming from and I understand. However, I do not see any crime in the case of Dash!

It is Ok to work hard and earn some money. It is not to OK to instamine. And that is what happened.

I was here when the project was posted. It was an experiment. There was a simple thread and linux software.

It didn't seem to be deliberately designed as an instamine at the time. It was only later, when price and interest had increased significantly, that people even became fond of the idea that there was an "instamine".  This is my personal opinion on the matter. If you mine your own coin and people gradually become aware of it, would you consider this morally reprehensible?

I was there when it was lauched intentionally without a windows wallet whilst they had tons of amazon instances ready to rape the chain with the broken dif adjust.

It was a 100% intentional coin grab and captive instamine. This has been proven many times over I can fetch the links if you want.

Insta scammer posting here is a know dark/dash supporter

Even if it was a mistake and they  realised whooopps we mined up nearly all of the available coins by mistake..... did they relaunch or distribute them for free to the community (they nearly did after we all noticed it was a scam)  no they kept them all.

Then what did they do??? the reduced the rest of the available minting by 75% to make their loot even more of a huge % of the total minting.

Then what did they do??? the made masternodes so they simply took more of the minting just because they already owned most of the coins and now make all the decisions.

Huge scam. Anyone defending remember them as scam pumpers and enablers = scammers themselves.

Then what did they do???  They used Masternode Governance Theater to rubber stamp staged decisions resulting in the already rich insiders being paid for project that never produce deliverable results.  EG, Lamassu ATM, Mycelium integration, Legal Research....
957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero under scrutiny of the FBI on: February 02, 2017, 07:47:55 PM
Hey arsehole gang, time to start bashing VCASH again, its just having a comeback.
Looks like people are bailing XMR and buy XVC instead.

I could understand them. Too much shit coming up around XMR atm.

Bashing VCASH?  Nah, there's no need to beat that dead horse.

Without John Conner there is no VCASH just as without Evan Duffield there is no DASH.

Stop conflating BUS_FACTOR=1 hobby coins with those enjoying a critical mass of developers.
958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 02, 2017, 09:02:51 AM
See what I mean?  Your nasty little post demonstrates perfectly the "thin skinned, paranoid, and hyperdefensive" attitude of DashHole cult enforcers.

Whinging about your personal judgements and gossipy condemnations does nothing to address widespread concerns about Dash's shitty broken governance and eternally problematic Instamine.

Look here, the Dash Instamine is so famous even the local Vietnamese press has an article about it.

https://dashvn.blogspot.com/2017/01/premine-va-instamine-la-gi.html

Regardless of the article's pro-instamine spin, it's clear the Instamine is Dash's most singular and outstanding defining feature.

Why don't you tell us how you intend to fix Dash's slopppy, unaccountable governance instead of attacking those who are pointing out the problems?


I'm criticizing you (not the other people you mentioned in the last post). For your insane use of the forum-flooding technique.

You and your gang are the reason bitcointalk is becoming an insane place to read and discuss.

I feel so sorry for you, really, and sorry for the alt and bitcoin community  Cry


Yes I know you are criticizing me, in stark contrast to doing something useful such as addressing xdashguy and coblee's concerns or answering my question.

That's called attacking the attacker and makes you look like a deranged Scientology thug.

The only forum-flooding going on here is the constant use of HUGE GRAPHICS to slide posts you don't like off the most recent page.

lol here's one for you iCEBREAKER: your Genius Charlie Lee managed to screw up litecoin's SegWit foray - all he needed to do was copy / paste, but he couldn't manage it!

https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/5r6utg/litecoinblockhalf_got_the_segwit_signaling_start/



When is Dash going to have SEGWIT?

It's already fallen behind Bitcoin's new RBF/CPFP features.

And where is the Mycelium support for Dash that was supposed to be here in October of last year?   Huh
959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 01, 2017, 10:52:09 PM
See what I mean?  Your nasty little post demonstrates perfectly the "thin skinned, paranoid, and hyperdefensive" attitude of DashHole cult enforcers.

Whinging about your personal judgements and gossipy condemnations does nothing to address widespread concerns about Dash's shitty broken governance and eternally problematic Instamine.

Look here, the Dash Instamine is so famous even the local Vietnamese press has an article about it.

https://dashvn.blogspot.com/2017/01/premine-va-instamine-la-gi.html

Regardless of the article's pro-instamine spin, it's clear the Instamine is Dash's most singular and outstanding defining feature.

Why don't you tell us how you intend to fix Dash's slopppy, unaccountable governance instead of attacking those who are pointing out the problems?


I'm criticizing you (not the other people you mentioned in the last post). For your insane use of the forum-flooding technique.

You and your gang are the reason bitcointalk is becoming an insane place to read and discuss.

I feel so sorry for you, really, and sorry for the alt and bitcoin community  Cry


Yes I know you are criticizing me, in stark contrast to doing something useful such as addressing xdashguy and coblee's concerns or answering my question.

That's called attacking the attacker and makes you look like a deranged Scientology thug.

The only forum-flooding going on here is the constant use of HUGE GRAPHICS to slide posts you don't like off the most recent page.
960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 01, 2017, 10:32:51 PM
Xdashguy's extensive and well-written critique and explanation of why he sold all his Dash has almost nothing to do with any other coins.  The name of the other coin you insist on fixating upon only appears ONCE in the entire essay (and not the Governance section coblee is specifically referring to).

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I make fun of DashHoles for being so jealous, thin skinned, paranoid, and hyperdefensive that they take any and all criticism of Dash as somehow "trolling" and someway "shilling" for different coins.

The list of people you are accusing of trolling and shilling is now beyond ridiculous.

Greg Maxwell?  Troll!
Peter Todd?  Troll!
Charlie Lee?  Troll!
Fluffypony?  Troll!
Solarminer?  Troll!
vertoe?  Troll!

New addition:

xdashguy?  Confirmed Troll!  "Essentially a Shill!"

And don't forget:

Tone Vay?  Troll!
(source: https://twitter.com/ToneVays/status/717822927908024320)

We know you dislike DASH. I know other people that dislike bitcoin with some good reasons. Others (like me) hate Munero and the gang of nerdy trolls. 

Trolling is posting here every day, like the insane individual you are, since 2014.

That's trolling.

You been trying to flood the thread for years. Some day you will realize you cannot.

You are a joke. A pathetic individual. Like the madman at the bar who is talking alone repeating all day the same. 


 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

See what I mean?  Your nasty little post demonstrates perfectly the "thin skinned, paranoid, and hyperdefensive" attitude of DashHole cult enforcers.

Whinging about your personal judgements and gossipy condemnations does nothing to address widespread concerns about Dash's shitty broken governance and eternally problematic Instamine.

Look here, the Dash Instamine is so famous even the local Vietnamese press has an article about it.

https://dashvn.blogspot.com/2017/01/premine-va-instamine-la-gi.html

Regardless of the article's pro-instamine spin, it's clear the Instamine is Dash's most singular and outstanding defining feature.

Why don't you tell us how you intend to fix Dash's slopppy, unaccountable governance instead of attacking those who are pointing out the problems?
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