Instead, Drk went closed source and became ostracised from the Btc community, killing my investment with it.
You are, to put it mildly, misrepresenting facts. DRK has been open in its code, whether it is x11, dgw1/2/3, masternodes etc. The only thing that has been closed is darksend. And it is closed since alpha status back in February (testnet) which was the first time it was used. It was never open so that it can go "closed" - something that you present as a fact or a change of policy. When Darksend was released on mainnet in March, it was still closed. And back then the price was far lower than it is now, so whether you bought prior to the first DarkSend implementation on testnet, or on mainet, or after their implementation, you are still higher on your money (0.001x vs 0.004x right now). It is simply impossible to have lost money. The only way to have lost money is if you bought after RC1-2, above 0.004 levels. What that means is that you already knew that DRK was building up in a closed fashion and would be opened when ready. And nothing has changed since then - except the development which has gone back by 2 entire months through the masternode payment issue. Therefore, why do you blame some non-existent shift of strategy for your investment losses, aside from trolling purposes? Check your trade records like I did. You will be surprised at the price jump and when it happened. I knew Drk was closed for awhile and believed it would be open sourced soon. I thought the market would forgive a closed source RC4. I was wrong about that and paid for it. I saw no new money was coming in after RC4. This was a clear sign the speculative money was abandoning Drk. The closed source anon tech was not a winner. I then made some suggestions, which you are referring to as "trolling". I have never tried to troll. Mr Ozziecoin... we as community...the majority, voted back in February to keep darkcoin non open sourced.... until it was complete. Period. We votedand demanded that to protect the project from poachers till it was completed. We are still not completed... as you recall we are still in beta/RC release. We all know this... your beating a dead horse. we knew thw implications of this from the beginning... so let's get this out in the open once and for all and lets stop hashing this over and over again.... we dont care about the market... we care about the technology and making it work perfect first. Ill bump this reply every few pages so we have people stop commentinton this laid to rest topic. If any one here does not like the path taken by the community please be free to leave now. Don't worry many people have already left. In a few months, I am afraid there is a high probability that Dark Wallet will render Darkcoin obsolete. That's what I see. This is a free choice of yours... you can either respect what was democratically voted on by our members or not. Further... you dont put the horse before the cart. you don't develop markets for a coin that is NOT complete and out of Beta thats a irresponsible and wrong strategy mate thatbis meant to try to bring in investor and pump a coin before its a full release version. But you comment above further supports my previous comment... for all to see it proves your motive and non balanced commentary. I would love to further entertain a constructive dialogue with the pros and cons of both proposed systems, but alas I know the out come of that and will save everyone the bother. Goodnight sir. IGNORED! You have no idea how Btc was developed. One last reply... You can not presume to know what I know sir.... and so we are all clear here... we are NOT BTC.... we are Darkcoin, and this is the Darkcoin forum... and this is our path, a new path to our own future. Love or hate it... its ours to own. |
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Instead, Drk went closed source and became ostracised from the Btc community, killing my investment with it.
You are, to put it mildly, misrepresenting facts. DRK has been open in its code, whether it is x11, dgw1/2/3, masternodes etc. The only thing that has been closed is darksend. And it is closed since alpha status back in February (testnet) which was the first time it was used. It was never open so that it can go "closed" - something that you present as a fact or a change of policy. When Darksend was released on mainnet in March, it was still closed. And back then the price was far lower than it is now, so whether you bought prior to the first DarkSend implementation on testnet, or on mainet, or after their implementation, you are still higher on your money (0.001x vs 0.004x right now). It is simply impossible to have lost money. The only way to have lost money is if you bought after RC1-2, above 0.004 levels. What that means is that you already knew that DRK was building up in a closed fashion and would be opened when ready. And nothing has changed since then - except the development which has gone back by 2 entire months through the masternode payment issue. Therefore, why do you blame some non-existent shift of strategy for your investment losses, aside from trolling purposes? Check your trade records like I did. You will be surprised at the price jump and when it happened. I knew Drk was closed for awhile and believed it would be open sourced soon. I thought the market would forgive a closed source RC4. I was wrong about that and paid for it. I saw no new money was coming in after RC4. This was a clear sign the speculative money was abandoning Drk. The closed source anon tech was not a winner. I then made some suggestions, which you are referring to as "trolling". I have never tried to troll. Mr Ozziecoin... we as community...the majority, voted back in February to keep darkcoin non open sourced.... until it was complete. Period. We votedand demanded that to protect the project from poachers till it was completed. We are still not completed... as you recall we are still in beta/RC release. We all know this... your beating a dead horse. we knew thw implications of this from the beginning... so let's get this out in the open once and for all and lets stop hashing this over and over again.... we dont care about the market... we care about the technology and making it work perfect first. Ill bump this reply every few pages so we have people stop commentinton this laid to rest topic. If any one here does not like the path taken by the community please be free to leave now. Don't worry many people have already left. In a few months, I am afraid there is a high probability that Dark Wallet will render Darkcoin obsolete. That's what I see. This is a free choice of yours... you can either respect what was democratically voted on by our members or not. Further... you dont put the horse before the cart. you don't develop markets for a coin that is NOT complete and out of Beta thats a irresponsible and wrong strategy mate that strategy is meant to try and bring in investors and pump a coin before its a full release version. imo. But you comment above further supports my previous comment... for all to see it proves your motive and non balanced commentary. I would love to further entertain a constructive dialogue with the pros and cons of both proposed systems, but alas I know the out come of that and will save everyone the bother. Goodnight sir. IGNORED! |
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Instead, Drk went closed source and became ostracised from the Btc community, killing my investment with it.
You are, to put it mildly, misrepresenting facts. DRK has been open in its code, whether it is x11, dgw1/2/3, masternodes etc. The only thing that has been closed is darksend. And it is closed since alpha status back in February (testnet) which was the first time it was used. It was never open so that it can go "closed" - something that you present as a fact or a change of policy. When Darksend was released on mainnet in March, it was still closed. And back then the price was far lower than it is now, so whether you bought prior to the first DarkSend implementation on testnet, or on mainet, or after their implementation, you are still higher on your money (0.001x vs 0.004x right now). It is simply impossible to have lost money. The only way to have lost money is if you bought after RC1-2, above 0.004 levels. What that means is that you already knew that DRK was building up in a closed fashion and would be opened when ready. And nothing has changed since then - except the development which has gone back by 2 entire months through the masternode payment issue. Therefore, why do you blame some non-existent shift of strategy for your investment losses, aside from trolling purposes? Check your trade records like I did. You will be surprised at the price jump and when it happened. I knew Drk was closed for awhile and believed it would be open sourced soon. I thought the market would forgive a closed source RC4. I was wrong about that and paid for it. I saw no new money was coming in after RC4. This was a clear sign the speculative money was abandoning Drk. The closed source anon tech was not a winner. I then made some suggestions, which you are referring to as "trolling". I have never tried to troll. Mr Ozziecoin... we as community...the majority, voted back in February to keep darkcoin non-open sourced.... until it was complete. Period. We voted and demanded that to protect the project from poachers till it was completed, before open sourcing. We are still not completed... as you recall we are still in beta/RC release. We all know this... your beating a dead horse. we knew thw implications of this from the beginning... so let's get this out in the open once and for all and lets stop hashing this over and over again.... we dont care about the market... we care about the technology and making it work perfect first. Ill bump this reply every few pages so we have people stop commentinton this laid to rest topic. If any one here does not like the path taken by the community please be free to leave now. |
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ozziecoin, what you doing back here, you said you were leaving. you are a troll who has been repeating the same shit for over a week.
Wheres your drk thief friend dyslexic zombie, has he returned people mn funds yet??
shut the fuck up about open source, whens its ready it will happen.
. thanks drk warrior.... ill activate and list ozziecoin to the ever growing list...... procedure.... wait for it.... yes.... "IGNORE" sun glasses on  edit: is ozziecoin trolling and stirring shit or asking solid questions, group? Add, don't add - does not bother me in the slightest. Actually, I already had drkwarrior on my ignore list and had no idea what he was saying. He was always rude and had nothing intelligent to say. A pure pump and dumper. I think my record shows I have been balanced - neither pumping or attacking. Just pointing out perspectives. You guys that hit ignore on me and even Shojayxt have fallen in love with the idea of Drk. The reality is that the Btc community avoided RC4. Also, Drk is not gaining the support it richly deserves. The start of the coin was bad enough but was then compounded by changes to the block reward midway. Serious investors are going to do the research and find out these things. I even tried to defend the coin saying it was a mistake. In reality, I could be the fool and the devs could be real crooks. Who knows the real story? If you go over my past postings, you will see I suggested a name change very early on. I also suggested creating a shapeshift.io type service to try and get fresh Btc into Drk. Instead, Drk went closed source and became ostracised from the Btc community, killing my investment with it. As the coin value plummeted, I said nothing. I did not even attack Camo, whereas some of you guys turned on him. I got no joy from seeing people's investments get killed. Humans are inherently unreliable - one time your friend and another time turning on you. In fact, add me to the ignore list please. Your opinion matters not to me. I think I'm starting to believe shojayxt for calling bigrcanada as a "professional investor". You're actually behaving like thugs I know. Mate... conversations that are 90% bashing isnt balanced. If shojayxt gave critical creative criticism but balanced i would welcome dialog. But its hard to be patient with people when its NEVER balanced, people in here get sick and tired if it. We are in here because we are dark supporters. you and Mr. Shojayxt are very well aware of this. I have yet once heard a positive review of our coin by Mr. Shojayxt. Im no Thug... actions in these forums speak volumes. I have openly voiced my support for Darkcoin and this community... thast is why im here. I love critical thinking Ozziecoin... what i dont like is unbalanced dialogue and constantly promoteing some other solution ummm like dark wallet. We know what the hell dark wallet is sir, we are here because we believe darkcoin is a better solution... I would ask all forum members to look at all my posts on bitcointalk.org. they speak for themselves. But eveyone has a breaking point when its non stop bashing from you guys... thats NOT balanced. My comments are my proof... if you wish to sit down and talk like gentlemen over coffee well.. everyone knows my name and where i live. |
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Holy fuck really... thanks Captian Obvious. I suppose we could also add the great creator there in the credits for creating life which created Satoshi, which created BTC blah blah blah. give your head sake mate. The original kernel of the code came from somewhere.... BIG FUCKN DEAL! The remaining code has been ultra a million times by thousands of coders.... wooopy doooo! I didn't realize this forum had become a history class. |
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ozziecoin, what you doing back here, you said you were leaving. you are a troll who has been repeating the same shit for over a week.
Wheres your drk thief friend dyslexic zombie, has he returned people mn funds yet??
shut the fuck up about open source, whens its ready it will happen.
. thanks drk warrior.... ill activate and list ozziecoin to the ever growing list...... procedure.... wait for it.... yes.... "IGNORE" sun glasses on edit: is ozziecoin trolling and stirring shit or asking solid questions, group? from what i can see he is always bashing and trashing darkcoin and promoting other technology in our forum... i vote for troll... smells and acts like a troll it must be. Ozziecoin explain why you feel the need to bash or be added to the growing list of ignored peeps. |
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Hows camosoul?
In the company of sordid women, last we heard. Definitely what he needed  sordid women are the soul keepers of the world  I ran out of harpoons anyway... Damn! thats funny shit right there! lol |
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Which part? Demanding freedom is an essential part of the a true Hungarian's very nature but ironically we as a nation always tend to loose it for various extents throughout the whole documented history (officially or virtually, fully or partially, past and recent times included). And we forget why we are always feel depressed...  I think eduffield should make that decision. I wouldn't moderate it if I were for him. I was really curious to see what everyone thought. At the moment it's Yes 23 votes No 27 votes. I'm sure a lot of the Trolls voted Yes because it would be seen as a victory for them... How would a moderated thread be a victory for them? Please explain. I'm pretty sure that quite a good portion of posts in this thread are spam. Wouldn't it be beneficial for DRK if there was minor or no spam? I may be wrong, but moderated threads give off the impression there's something to hide, such is the sentiment in Crypto these days... I personally feel it's good brand management but hey, I'm just one opinion... i say no to moderated thread.... we can deal with trolls as a community as they come.... bring em on.  |
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Oh in the name of all that's DRK people, stop quoting ignitiondefect, he's shojak's equally obtuse older brother, he just manages his meds better. You might as well argue with a bottle of adderall..
Roger that....."IGNORE" activated.... I don't know his full history but I thought he had some interesting points and was civil enough to require a response. We can't just go about ignoring anyone who raises a concern about DRK, as long as they are not vehement with personal attacks or a complete nutjobber like shoshat. We should accept their challenge and respond with the truth. Just seems like we are bordering on the slippery slope to becoming the troll gestapo around here, a bad precedent... Ok...I'll leave it be...but damnit I love my IGNORE feature... . I agree...the worst thing in a community or company is to be surrounded by "yes" people...they never question things and always think your right...and that is just as BAD...actuallly worse....so point well taken. |
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It will be interesting to see if we can find a bottom. I mean, surely we can't go down further than this? But that's what I've been saying the past few days, so... I'm ready to pull the trigger and buy 50k DRK, but I need a bottom price first.
Still all my fault?Yo...how goes it? did you have a good time in the shop? or did you go do the girl thing? |
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My Darkcoin/DarkSend wallet tutorial is up. I hope it helps anyone who is apprehensive about using DarkSend because they're not sure how it works or how to do it "right". It should answer all your questions. I did do it as if for an old lady like myself, but hope everyone can get something out of it http://coinbrief.net/how-to-use-darkcoin-wallet-darksend/Thank you...thank you...can we post that in the OP?!? Have Evan review it maybe? |
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It's being heavily manipulated right now by some lowlife.
What do you do if you are an organisation that has been waiting for RC4 to be released? An organisation that has a petty cash tin the size of the entire DRK market cap? You're a business, you buy something as cheaply as possible Hold them DRK and don't be a weak fool who panics... blah blah Are you camosoul's alter ego? I only see that flapjack's posts when someone quotes him... There are plenty of organisations that value privacy that operate under the radar which will be all over Darkcoin, but I don't expect you to have any grasp on how the real world works sweetheart... COMMUINTY....PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, if you must interact with Trolls/Fudsters, please please delete what they write, PLEASE...otherwise your doing their bidding. And please use the IGNORE feature freely in that case. Thanks |
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It's a background image and a few widgets, you can brand it however you like in seconds. How many seconds depends on whether you have the artwork handy. Anyone have a full list of DS+ related daemon calls (if any exist yet) and launch switches? do the widgets contain the 'drk' references? e.g. could one change drk for 'xyz' and effectively create a private white label reward mechanism that is powered by DRK behind the scenes? You can change anything you like, it's just an empty form that you put whatever you want on, some of which (eg. the 'send' button, which you can call 'Herbert' if you want) does stuff. Hah, just spotted 'anonymised_balance' under getinfo, I can pull it out of there... cheers, Sir Crouton a few more questions... * IPR? * GitHub? * ease of adding fiat exchange conversions to give indication of value? I'll release it under some do-what-you-like licence if I release it, and stick it on github then. Adding exchange rates would probably take about 15 minutes, hadn't occurred to me to do so, I wanted to keep the wallet as simple as functionally possible, it was a lunchtime project as a few people have agreed with me that a dirt simple wallet might be useful. Might stick exchange rates in tomorrow. Oh in the name of all that's DRK people, stop quoting ignitiondefect, he's shojak's equally obtuse older brother, he just manages his meds better. You might as well argue with a bottle of adderall.. Roger that....."IGNORE" activated.... |
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This is all manipulation by few rich drk holders..they have put big sell walls to keep price down while they wait for money deposits to buy cheap btc and with cheap btc buy even cheaper drk ..then they will remove sell walls and 100% profit is no brainer
850btc in 24 hours is not a few big whales, it's a fire sale 17,000 BTC on LTC. That's a disaster That is the big story here...HOLY SMOKES!!!! insane...if been reading a few places and the community is falling apart. That got to suck.... |
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This is all manipulation by few rich drk holders..they have put big sell walls to keep price down while they wait for money deposits to buy cheap btc and with cheap btc buy even cheaper drk ..then they will remove sell walls and 100% profit is no brainer
850btc in 24 hours is not a few big whales, it's a fire sale The silver lining is this will now spread the coin amongst more people....and really its holding well at this price. We old Darkcoin holders know that by know most whales that bought...bought at this current price....few are not going to want to lose bags of money. ....so lets see if this is the floor. |
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Well said sir. I certainly have no crystal ball. I still believe there is room for several coins at the top. I'll use a very simple analogy, take wine...something I know well. It would be simple to just make "A WINE" and not dozen or so different wines. And like BTC to DRK...there are wines that people drink everyday...and those that people collect and even use as a store of value. What I'm getting at...is even thought its good to make your opinions know...in the end they are just opinions. I for one wouldn't bet the farm on either out come. All I know is I like the fundamentals of Darkcoin...and its potential Utility. There are hundreds of currency in the world....choice is a good thing.
Am I correct in recalling that you own a winery in Canada? Feel free to pm me the name / location... I do enjoy my vino. Will do...crap...and I still have to post our "Darkcoins Accepted Here" Sign at our till. |
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Possible eruption developing under the glacier in Iceland.
Could be the cause of DRK's recent dip.
"DRK's recent dip"? You sir are a master in the art of understatement. That's like calling the Great Depression the Little Dipper. All crypto's have had major dips...least we forget the high and low of BTC....its fall from December makes Darkcoins fall look like child play, $1200-$380 at one point today. We are all aware here so lets paint every coin with the same brush. I mean should we pull up the BTC Trading charts over the last 5 years? I guessed not. Lets be productive and find ways guys to make crypto relevant in the real world! |
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After predicting the DRK price implosion just weeks ago ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8073765#msg8073765), I have another prediction to make. I take no pleasure in saying this but I hope that those who didn't take my advice before will listen this time and save themselves some money. DRK will never again approach its previous price. The reason is that it does not provide an attractive practical solution for those who seek anonymity (relative to BTC used in conjunction with mixers). Even if it does function perfectly on a technical level, the fact remains that moving BTC into DRK generally requires dealing with an exchange that will be forced to compromise privacy as the result of increased regulations. And once you have your DRK, where are you going to spend it? There is no DRK ecosystem to speak of. BTC has hundreds of millions being invested into an infrastructure to stimulate mass adoption. If you truly wanted to be anonymous, wouldn't you want to be lost in the crowd along with regular consumers as opposed to being potentially linked to a currency inadvertently branded as the go-to solution for drug dealers, paedophiles, and tax-dodgers? In front of a jury, what's more incriminating: evidence that you had a BTC wallet on your computer like everybody else including your aunt Bertha...or that you had a sinisterly-named DarkCoin Wallet on there? I would short DRK if I knew how but I have zero skin in the game. Save yourself some serious grief and at the very least don't dump more of your hard-earned money into this. Your concerns are certainly not without merit. I won't address your price prediction as illiquid crypto markets don't operate on LT outlook, but on short term hype and despair cycles almost solely controlled by large holders. As to the rest of your remarks, I can only caution that none of us can be certain how all of this will turn out. Your post is very similar to those made about bitcoin itself only a year ago, and those criticisms still apply for the vast majority of people outside the BTC bubble. With regard to converting between coins, I expect functional decentralized exchanges to minimize the need to rely on regulated, centralized entities. There are more than a few already close to offering real world utility. Everything going on now is experimental and speculative, and to be sure, most projects will completely fail. This game certainly isn’t for the faint of heart, and no one should bet the farm on any one outcome, but there continues to be an incredible amount of money to be made while all of this plays out. I personally believe DRK still has a role to play, but to each his own. Well said sir. I certainly have no crystal ball. I still believe there is room for several coins at the top. I'll use a very simple analogy, take wine...something I know well. It would be simple to just make "A WINE" and not dozen or so different wines. And like BTC to DRK...there are wines that people drink everyday...and those that people collect and even use as a store of value. What I'm getting at...is even thought its good to make your opinions know...in the end they are just opinions. I for one wouldn't bet the farm on either out come. All I know is I like the fundamentals of Darkcoin...and its potential Utility. There are hundreds of currency in the world....choice is a good thing. |
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Hey, can somebody tell me why Darkcoin is losing so much in value? Is darksend not working?
Tough question. If we leave conspiracy theories alone, I think it was because some people expected a rally after RC4, and when it didn't happen, they got frustrated and decided to sell (which led itself to downward spiral where more people wanted out because price was falling). And why there was no rally after RC4? Partly because it was already priced in, and partly because it was unclear whether it's working or not if you were only reading this thread, which most buyer candidates are probably reading. If you were on the testnet testing and reading bug tracker etc you knew what to expect, but those people already have bought all the drk they could possibly need ages ago. So I bet it was very confusing time (and still probably is) for those deciding on whether to invest or not. What is needed imo is a bullet proof UI/UX design that makes it impossible to not understand what's going on or make anything that might interfere the initial anonymizing process. When that is done, PR machine can start recruiting new blood, not before. It was just not the proper time for announce RC4 with this BTC crash . Yup...That will go down as the WORST time to release a new crypto project EVER! lol. wow...a crystal ball would have been nice.  |
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One very positive thing is .....there is a hell of alot of interest in Darkcoin.... $600,000.00 worth of trading value! wow... I suspect there is some serious things afoot. cool!
So when is the youtube infomercial on darkcoin coming out?
Very uncool, if the price ranges like that only because somebody made a bigger transaction. Somebody put the coin to work, buying, darksending, liquidating. Should be everyday's business. Very poor on the liquidity. We'll probably see that more often. So this round worked, ready for the next one? I truth I don't know where the volume is coming from....it would be interesting to see this. |
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