Hunter's cool. I've dealt with him before.
PM sent, in fact.

Currently mining SOV. I like SOV. The Undead Coin

Here's how I'd play it (making up the details for examples sake). Say you have ten blocks, all fairly large. I'll say 10K coins each just for example's sake.

Open up coin control and see which ones are closest to staking. exclude them from tweaking until after they stake, as you said. Then choose a block to break up. do the right number of sends to get that block into 1600 coin blocks. Then wait a day, and do it again. Rinse and repeat until you have all of them set up the way you want. I would try to stagger it so that you have one block (at least) staking every day once they start to mature, and then just keep tweaking them in that manner as they stake. It'll keep the chain moving, and this early in the game won't cost you enough in coin maturity to matter.

Aha. Now I understand your confusion. Had the same questions before I started getting into PoS coins.

The calculations are done by the staking process. The hobonickels wiki has a really good overview of the process. I am not a good mathemetician, so I'm not even gonna try to explain the math behind it. But basically, holding coins for a certain amount of time triggers the minting process AND moves the chain. Which is where the initial problems lie with pure PoS coins, the coins have to mature for a bit to actually start staking and move things along. It's why we've been discussing shortening the stake period for a short time to get things flowing.

Edit: Ninja'd by the Master presstab taught me almost everything I've learned about PoS.

This coin is by design not mineable, it's a pure PoS coin from launch, forking TRK and duplicating the wallet's balance for initial distribution. No mining, just minting. I find that interesting (pun intendend) and I like the dev. That's why I'm in. Plus, the interest from PoS is actually similar to mining in this case. At least it seems it will be. We're still getting things sorted.

Better to wait right now. Once a bunch of people start staking, the coin will move faster. I'd give it till monday at least.

It's a bug. If the block matches up with the chain, don't worry about it, you're in sync. presstab has already written the fix for that particular annoyance. It'll be fixed in the next wallet, along with closer to accurate calculation of stake time.

The stake times and the spinner when the block is taking too long, I know he's already got fixed for the next release. I'm not sure what else, but I know presstab has been working on the little niggling bugs for the new release for a few days now. My guess is he'll wait until the Coin-Swap guys are ready, and then evaluate whether or not to put the accelerated staking in for that release. I think, from our few conversations, that he's basically waiting on that, and sleep

Now we're getting somewhere. I actually suggested something similar to SrsCrypto in a PM. Details are not mine to divulge. He's passing it on to CryptoGir.

But yes, you're dead on. I'm a singer, and I have watched probably two dozen bands disintegrate because artists frequently have zero business sense, nor any talent to develop any. I often see people throw a lot of venom at band managers, but they are a necessary component. I think the same principle applies to a successful coin. Sure, it may be led behind the scenes by the engineers, or it may not, but there needs to be a certain amount of management, either within or without, to keep things moving.

I am going to say that a dump on Mintpal when the coin is first listed is not something I find alarming, IF the other issues are dealt with. I've yet to see a coin hit that particular exchange without a dump. I am only one guy with a lot on his plate, so I may have missed the shining jewel that was different, but if I did, the trend still holds.

If we can all step back for a minute, give the dev's a couple of days of breathing room, and let our coins stake, this can almost certainly be remedied. The coin is sound, and the initial concept of focusing on entertainment related markets makes a lot of sense. That will take some time, but by keeping the investors informed of what they are working on, what they could use assistance on, and somebody to just take some flak will make a world of difference.

I tried to be that guy for Earthcoin, and failed due to too many personal obligations. So I'm going to say here what I said in private. I'm willing to help on an ad-hoc basis, but I cannot be the mouthpiece. I simply don't have time. But somebody needs to do it. And that somebody ought to be paid a salary or a bounty in ZS to keep their focus where it belongs. You'll understand this as a businessman. It's why CEO's often are paid significantly more in company stock than in monetary salary. It puts the onus of making a living squarely on their performance in raising the price of the stock.

FUD is easy, and often accurate. Doing something about it entails significantly more effort and significantly less emotion.

As for being a smartass, I was born that way and consider it a complement. Only dumbasses take offense to being called that

Not necessarily. I've been watching, and I've talked to others who were caught up in the initial debacle as well. I think a good many of us are just being very cautious. A lot of us put a lot of personal energy into this, only to have the dev run with the money. So with Frank and his merry men putting it back together, I think the interest may be greater than you perceive.

Hmm. Greener... so something copper based... CENT?

Just playin, don't take it personal.

Because my foci have been elsewhere, I have tried to take the middle line here. So, I called out Srs, now I'm doing the same with you.

You have valid points. You also take offense easily. And yes, again, you've had reason. I'm not taking sides here. I know the dev to some extent from his previous endeavors and from this one. He's a bit flaky about publicity. He is almost certainly working on things behind the scene, and will be surprised and baffled by the reaction to his silence. I call it engineer syndrome, cuz engineers never want to put out a progress report until they have reached certain milestones, where management, or investors in this case, just want to know that something is being done.

SrsCrypto overreacted to some legit and some not so legit criticism. I talked to him privately, and found out he's been without sleep for a ridiculous amount of time. Longer than my aging body can handle. So I'd ask you to cut him a bit of slack over today's episode.

From the purely technical side, this is one of the best pure PoS coins so far. It had like two bumps at the switchover and has worked flawlessly since. That in itself is good PR, and they should run with that, I think, above any "big surprise" or major announcement. Medium staking coin that actually works as advertised. Get in on this while it's cheap... that sort of thing. Sorry, I'm good at the back side of advo, but not the actual wording. I used to be a manager at a pizza joint. I'd write a ten page advertising proposal and hand it to my assistant. He wasn't good at coming up with the shit, but he could distill my ten pages into something simple and two or three lines of it. Worked great. I wish I still had a guy like that.

I think what this coin really needs is not so much for CG to regularly update us but for there to be a PR guy/gal on the dev team that does regular updates without us having to deal with CG's randomness. He's like that. And I really DON'T think there's any malice in it. Meanwhile, SrsCrypto is stuck in the middle and out of his depth.

All of this being said, let's try to move it forward a bit. A couple of days to regroup will not kill the coin. Not regrouping will.

And to those of you who jump Djslick when he's right, you might want to rethink it. Listen when somebody speaks truth. Even if they do it in a smartass or condescending fashion. Which he did not start out that way, he got glib reassurances where there should have been meaningful debate.

Makes sense. I'd say have it ready, and wait til they are back. Maybe by then it won't be useful. If it is, you got it in the chamber 

Those places are about the best microscope available for observing abnormal psychology.

I hope that's just frustration speaking. The negative voices will always be the loudest. Some of them are trying to spread fud, some are legitmately concerned, some are stupid, and some are mean. But there are probably ten guys like me for every one of them. We hang back and watch, and we probably should say more. I've appreciated and supported your efforts on this coin from the moment you started. The coin needs a cheerleader. Right now, you're it. Well, you and BlueWhackadoo . It might be a good idea to recruit somebody who's sole purpose is updates.

SrsCrypto, some free advice, with a bit of background. I guarantee it will be worth the price I'm offering it at, and I think it might be worth more than that.

First, the background. My introduction to CryptoGir was the SHA debacle. He did good on fixing that, up to the point he discovered the hidden premine. He's a bit spotty on communication, as you and I well know. But he's a good sort. I mined ZS during the PoW phase and held my pittance until a couple weeks back. I sold because I needed money, and will be buying back in now that the price is down. My sell had to do with making the best of several bad choices, rather than anything fundamental to the coin or the DEV. Both of us know this coin's history and it's dev.

That being said, a new guy or an investor who does NOT have our background is going to compare this coin with others and see the periods of silence as abandonment. Not because of CG, but because they (and you and I) can easily name off ten coins where the dev going silent was the end of active development. CG isn't like that, and again you and I know that. But not everyone does.

So, here's that free advice. It's difficult. Be civil REGARDLESS of how stupid the post appears to you. That will do more for the coin's image than all the refutation and red ink.

A lot of my background in life is customer service. It's a low paying, ugly, thankless job. Because despite the old adage, the customer is seldom right, often scamming, stupid, and insane. But the customer always wins. Without them, no business.

Tell CG that a weekly update at a scheduled time would do more for this coin than a whole lot of other things.

To the rest of you, name ONE coin that didn't drop the first few days it hit a major exchange in the last six months? Profit taking is going to happen. If you don't panic, then it will recover. If you, collectively, panic, then YOU kill the coin. Not the dev. Remember, this is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it's one that creates money. Go find ways to make that money good for something besides dumping on an exchange. There is only one person stopping you, and you see them in the mirror. Even if you take it in a direction that the dev's didn't plan, see, or approve of, it will STILL raise the value of the coin. Real world acceptance goes way far.

That's clear enough that my ignorant ass can figure it out Standing by.

I am in favor if you're willing to do it. At this point, the community is small enough that we can be very flexible. And I think a stuck chain is more of a burden on the coin than a hard fork.

Sure. Presstab already linked his guide, but here's a short version for all y'all.

First, in the QT wallet, go to settings, click on "options", an in the last tab, click on activate coin control. Hit apply.

close that out if it don't do it automatically, then click on "send coins".  You'll see a button that says "inputs" click on it. It will bring up the coin control window. You'll see a list of transactions. click on "List Mode" if it's not already there, as tree mode aggregates the inputs and is harder to deal with. It's better if you have a LOT of transactions, though. for my example we will use list mode.

This will show you every single block. On the last column, you'll see "priority" This tells you which coins are the closest to mature. This is the part where you have to make some decisions and calculations, because every coin you move will have it's maturity set back to zero, along with the block it came from. On a short staking coin like HYP, this is probably not a huge deal, but nevertheless, look at it.

Now, check the box next to every block that you are trying to split or combine. If you have a huge single block, as the OP implies, click on that one. Hit ok.

the selected blocks will be the FIRST coins sent when you make a transaction.

Now, having selected which coins to manipulate, close coin control. You'll be on the send tab still. Go to "receive coins" and generate a new address. Give it a label like "consolidation group one" or something like that so you can track it easily. Make as many as you intend to use for the next step.

<optionally, you can copy them into your address book and save some tab switching. I don't do this, but it's there if ya want it>

Grab one of the addresses you just made, go to your "send coins" tab, and paste it in to the Pay To box. Label should come up immediately, the put the amount you wish to be in the new staking block in the Amount box. Hit send. you'll get a send confirmation that shows "send to self". Now, go back to coin control, open it, and you'll see a brand new block with the new amount of coins in it. Again, select the coins you want to move, and repeat until you're happy, assigning EACH STAKING BLOCK a separate address. (this is important to you, not the client. It will store the blocks separately, but it's hard to keep track when they all come to the same address.)

And that is coin control.

A good strategy would be to do this over the course of 9 days. You'll initially lose some coin maturity, but you'll get blocks staking every day after nine days. On staking day, create yet another new address and block, and with a bit of patience, you'll be getting a stake every day. Or more than one as time goes by.

If you like this guide, feel free to tip me HYP pFUkpqL3CZXptffp1dm1D8YcacvaD994n7  TEK BmmkHdBj3V9CuGqGPMfwXAB8NRWYiMjmCB

I can't speak for raskul on that one. I'm not directly involved, we're just friends. To my knowledge, that's the only system NOMP supports at present, but I'll leave that to him to answer. I assume you're concerned with hopping?