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2701  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 24, 2014, 01:48:02 PM
Thay can't keep their word, because they were overoptimistic about their ability to develop and manufacture a reliable board for A1 chips. They failed, and now refuse to confess and come clear.
I'm not following this thread closely, but that's what I gathered on first sight.

Seems to be the case Sad
2702  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: SCRYPT ASIC miner ready. BTC+LTC ASIC miner, 1THS(1000GHS) Bitcoin miner, 950W. on: February 24, 2014, 12:47:04 PM
okay guys,

i see you have money which you dont need.
Why dont u send it to me instead to asiabtc?


btc: 1FYwfXuG3VXvoj1wiZDg3Yugb7yH5u6R7M

You sir, are an asshole.

Go play on the highway please.

Well played! would've thrown some dust at you for the laugh if you had a tip jar...
2703  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Avalon mining rig clones thread from bitmine.ch (NOW SHIPPING) on: February 24, 2014, 12:37:13 PM
Hello everybody,

i've a litte problem with my Bitmine Avlalon Mining Rig Clone.

I'm not able to connect it to the internet.
I can configurate him on my laptop via lan and the webbrowser but there is no connection to my wifi.


Is there anybody who knows this Problem?
If it will connect by lan, maybe the radio died? Or you don't have the correct port address, though usually a switch or router will fix that automatically.

I'm shootin' in the dark here, but I've had similar problems with routers. My first thought would be to just power cycle everything. If that don't solve it, you have a deeper problem.
2704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TomPool][Multipool - SHA256 & Scrypt - DEM/GLD/GME/MNC/SXC/UNO/ZET...] on: February 24, 2014, 11:11:31 AM
Done, please switch to 3329 Smiley

Oops. Did that about an hour ago. It's definitely getting fewer rejects. It is now at diff 64, will see how it looks in a bit. Still showing lower hashrate by about 10-12 GH/S than what CGminer is showing, but much more stable than it was... and that was at diff 16.

Thanks!

Oh, is there a page that shows estimated payout, or is that a "wait and see" thing? Sorry to pester you. Just learning the pool.

EDIT: Now seems to show much closer to what I show in CGminer.

However, and I don't know if this is universal or just my rig, when it switches coins it appears on the stats at like 1/2 the hashrate for a couple of refreshes. Then it's back up to where it should be. I'm guessing it's just the nature of the switching feature, as I don't see the fluctuation in CGminer other than a series of four or five rejects. Then it stabilizes very quickly.

Pretty damn cool! Cheesy
2705  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: February 24, 2014, 10:47:20 AM


Not s scam, but here is more info. Coincraft A1 ASIC chips are produced in China in Innosilicon factory according to Bitmine.CH design and produced for Bitmine as ordering party.

http://www.innosilicon.com/

Does it mean some worker was stealing or maybe some other way thief(s) obtained them (stealing in shipment?), I'm currently unaware.

However I am aware that each tray is 9x21 meaning one tray has 189 chips, so a thief have stolen approx 10 trays and maybe some extra he/she/they could put in their pockets.

Technobit was regular buyer from Bitmine, as well as AMT.



Yes, I'm quite aware of the connection between AMT, Bitmine and Technobit. AMT sent me a miner to review and to alleviate some fears about their legitimacy. I think they failed in that, as they haven't alleviated MY fears about their legitimacy. However, the beast runs Technobit HEX16B's, and I have followed Technobit pretty much since their founding. They were first to market with an A1 based miner. Well, hashing board, anyway. AMT is still dithering.

But what I was referencing was that the note, when translated, mentioned AMT and Bitmine, but not Technobit. Just found that a bit odd, given that Technobit has more exposure and success than AMT, and probably at this point than Bitmine. Why leave them out if this is Legit? (or perhaps certifiably illegitimate, given the subject...)

The numbers make sense in light of your new data, but why two NEW accounts posting the same "warning" in the AMT and Bitmine thread? I smell fish.

I'm not getting into who's fucking with whose brains because I haven't got the time for that.

What I'm however glad is that we figured out where chinese rigs come from.

So for you to understand Biomech, your AMT rig was assembled this way :

1. chips from BitmineBitfury
2. PCBs from Technobit
3. their own final assembly (AMT)

Why not from Bitmine ?

Since Bitmine at that time had problems with their PCB issues.

Whether only for 8 or 10-chip board is yet not known (to me), but let's hope Kev.in comes up with more info so you and I, and we all will know what problems were and which problems are solved. To my knowledge there has been a problem with scarcity of tantalum capacitors, not available last week anywhere in Europe in any assembly facility for SoC pick-and-place. If that was the only problem and is now solved, things now look very prommissing.

And now with this resolving of chips theft happened as if not more things can go wrong Smiley MURHPY'S LAW INDEED Smiley


Mine was a bitfury rig.

But anyway, yes, somebody is playing head games. Just not sure who. Oh, and AMT hasn't delivered any Bitmine based miners yet, or had not as of earlier today. Just some of the older Technobit/bitfury based miners. Which are quite nice, but not real fast.
2706  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: February 24, 2014, 10:05:21 AM


Not s scam, but here is more info. Coincraft A1 ASIC chips are produced in China in Innosilicon factory according to Bitmine.CH design and produced for Bitmine as ordering party.

http://www.innosilicon.com/

Does it mean some worker was stealing or maybe some other way thief(s) obtained them (stealing in shipment?), I'm currently unaware.

However I am aware that each tray is 9x21 meaning one tray has 189 chips, so a thief have stolen approx 10 trays and maybe some extra he/she/they could put in their pockets.

Technobit was regular buyer from Bitmine, as well as AMT.



Yes, I'm quite aware of the connection between AMT, Bitmine and Technobit. AMT sent me a miner to review and to alleviate some fears about their legitimacy. I think they failed in that, as they haven't alleviated MY fears about their legitimacy. However, the beast runs Technobit HEX16B's, and I have followed Technobit pretty much since their founding. They were first to market with an A1 based miner. Well, hashing board, anyway. AMT is still dithering.

But what I was referencing was that the note, when translated, mentioned AMT and Bitmine, but not Technobit. Just found that a bit odd, given that Technobit has more exposure and success than AMT, and probably at this point than Bitmine. Why leave them out if this is Legit? (or perhaps certifiably illegitimate, given the subject...)

The numbers make sense in light of your new data, but why two NEW accounts posting the same "warning" in the AMT and Bitmine thread? I smell fish.
2707  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 750 GH/s - 3TH/s Miners from $3565 - www.bitcoinultra.co.uk on: February 24, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
NO I MEAN SIMPLE LIKE KNC DO

NO VAT FOR PROFFESIONAL VAT NUMBER WITHIN EUROPE

WHERE IS THE PROBLEM

IF THESE COMPANY NOT KNOW THAT
SORRY IS NOT COMPANY
IS SCAM Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

... The bong, Jellin.... Hit the bong... then Caps Lock... deep breath.

VAT law is complicated. I am in the US, so I don't have to deal with it, but I very definitely recall the brouhaha over it in the KNC thread. Seems that while the EU has a published "standard", it's open to massive interpretation and endless debate. Give 'em a minute to get it sorted.

Not saying they aren't a scam, nor that they are. But this is a pretty minor technical detail up until they actually start taking money.

Oh, the first sentence is all in good fun. You seem awfully excitable Cheesy
2708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TomPool][Multipool - SHA256 & Scrypt - DEM/GLD/GME/MNC/SXC/UNO/ZET...] on: February 24, 2014, 08:44:20 AM
I'd say so, vardiff seems to cause these issues on quite a few miners from what I've seen. If you post your btc address I'll set your diff to 64 (most likely the best for your device), you'll just need to switch to port 3329 afterwards.

At the moment its just the one page with all the btc addresses and current hashrate but I'll be adding more in the near future.

Thanks, I'll try that. It's gotta be a bear to keep the stats straight with that many coins. I ain't complaining, just curious.

Here's the addy. The miner is two Technobit HEX16B's, if that gives you any guidance. I'm not a complete noob, but fairly close to it. I guess that makes me an incomplete noob Cheesy On Eligius it is usually at 64.

1K4hvSjT4vmr2Asyv6fKP1e4hvGe6f8Tta

Cheers!

Edit: should I switch ports now?
2709  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: February 24, 2014, 08:34:23 AM
They are receiving a couple hundred e-mails a day and more than 100 calls.
The more you e-mail and call them, the more time they need to answer all of your requests.
So time gets lost where they could actually work on your orders and get them shipped.

while I appreciate you posting here, this argument is bullshit

Put a dedicated temp behind the phone and email and he/she can do all the replying. No need to waste anybody elses time. And people would not be contacting Bitmine direct if there would be any decent feedback and communication from Bitmine itself in the first place other than "We are now shipping"

Don't blame the customer for the mess Bitmine creates themselves

yeah. Them and AMT both. I don't know much about Switzerland, but in the US, there are three companies I can think of right off the top of my head that could provide this, with minimal training. Kelly Services, Volt Temporary services and Manpower. I'm sure there are similar companies in Switzerland. Getting short term, relatively competent help is NOT difficult. Getting long term competent help often is... Tongue
2710  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 750 GH/s - 3TH/s Miners from $3565 - www.bitcoinultra.co.uk on: February 24, 2014, 08:23:02 AM
Thumbs up on the "no pre-orders" business model!

yes, this. I won't buy a pre order, but I might buy your machines if they are in hand. Either that or some Ants, in a few weeks.
2711  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 24, 2014, 08:19:53 AM
AMT Faculty / All Concerned,

I will be down there this week to WITNESS any sort of operation you have established. I have not received a response from you VIA email.

I am coming for the posted pickup date that was given to me by Josh from my last convo with him.

I may even record a video of their building and anything else allowable.

26 FEB - 28 FEB

Guys (Forum Members), I will keep you posted.

Very Respectfully,

~Mr. Merry~
~Merry Miners~


Casey what is your order number? There is an orders list that one member created which you should be added to.   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=463922.0

It's already there. Order 1121.
2712  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: February 24, 2014, 08:12:06 AM
I don't think anyone needs to pay 15 BTC a week to say bad things about BitMine at the moment. Ask anyone losing out because of later delivery...

Exactly the same post under a different username in the AMT thread. I copied it into google translate.

Quote
Hello Fellow Chinese people .

Our Group is headquartered in China distributor , and we steal chips from Bitmine small quanitity chip factory .

We have a very limited supply , only 1,982 chips. We will build to only 47 miners. We want to sell them a minimum of $ 8,000 , will provide them late, but we gave the commission very quickly.

Now, we 're trying to make our miners , but we did not succeed. That is why we are selling pre-sale methods miners . We want to put money now , and try to establish and higher real technician.

 We sell our products with 4 watts different company name, so we can take the money , perhaps to make them work .

We have created four different companies ( one even in the UK ) , and now there is no work with the miners images.

We know AMTminers and Bitmine products shipped to the client now, it will ruin our chances to sell our miners . Therefore , we must stop these two companies sell , so we can steal from the American people.

As China a brother , it is your responsibility to help other Chinese companies in this industry to survive. Please help your high knowledge of English , said bad things about the reputation of doing the wrong AMTminers and Bitmine . You will have to lie , but for China to survive , we must do wrong these companies. We must stop these companies.

We paid a weekly 15 bitcoins for your help . We will work with our miners will soon be mined will not be any problems with your payment .

Please write back to me , if you are willing to help.

Little Wang

A bit disturbing, if true. My first question would be how do they get the chips from Bitmine. My next one would be why aren't they mentioning Technobit???

Definitely some sort of scam here, but I'm kinda wondering whether it has anything to do with a chinese theft.
2713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TomPool][Multipool - SHA256 & Scrypt - DEM/GLD/GME/MNC/SXC/UNO/ZET...] on: February 24, 2014, 07:57:32 AM
Ok, I've never used a switching pool like this before, so if this is an ignorant question, so be it.

I'm mining at the pool right now, and it took forever to show me above about 50 GH/s, it's now showing about 72. I'm putting out 79-84 according to CGminer. From reading the thread, I know there's a fair amount of rejects, and CG is showing that as well. Not ridiculous, just a lot higher than I was used to at Eligius. Is the high rejects why my hashrate displays so much lower than at Eligius?

Also, when mining via the "tomcoins" option, is there a direct stats page for my address, or is it just the main page there?

I like this concept, but I'm feeling a little naked here Cheesy
2714  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 24, 2014, 07:32:48 AM
Note: Alyssa is the one who answered us most recently and let us know our refund check was in the mail. She seemed nice.

You do know that's the 2nd biggest lie in the world don't you?

What's first, God said it?

Not hardly. If you're that religious, I won't post it here! Google it and take your pick.
[/quote]

LOL! I'm a pretty hardcore atheist. I just thought that would be the first biggest lie Cheesy
2715  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 24, 2014, 04:59:56 AM
Are we back to being uncertain if AMT is real... again... again...

Didn't we get past "reality", about 40 pages back? Is this one of those Einstein things, or the matrix?

Photos, videos, telephone-calls, emails, mail-boxes, bank-accounts, physical shop, linked-in pages, servers, website...

All that is not real?

Looks around... Touches self... Touches self again... Am I even real? Oh, yea, I am a customer, and you implied customers are real.

Looks at screen... Touches screen... (It is not a touch-screen. Well, it does not respond to touching like I do. But you can still touch it.) That feels real! AMT is on my screen, so they must be real too!

Myth busted.

Sorry, had to add some more stupidity to the mix, while I waited for the new video to be uploaded. I like to watch reality shows, and some fantasy... So I win no matter what is in the video. Tongue

What is reality, really?

That which exists despite your illusions Cheesy
2716  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: February 24, 2014, 04:45:14 AM
Note: Alyssa is the one who answered us most recently and let us know our refund check was in the mail. She seemed nice.

You do know that's the 2nd biggest lie in the world don't you?
[/quote]

What's first, God said it?
2717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TomPool][Multipool - SHA256 & Scrypt - DEM/GLD/GME/MNC/SXC/UNO/ZET...] on: February 24, 2014, 04:25:21 AM
I'm thinking of mining here for a bit, to check it out, as soon as I get my next payout at
Eligius. I haven't read the whole thread, so if this has been covered don't kick me too hard Cheesy

What kind of performance vs. bitcoin has the pool done with SHA-256? I see you consistently beating up on litecoin with scrypt, but that is currently irrelevant to me as I have an AMT/Technobit 80 gh/s ASIC device.

I'm gonna try it anyway, I just wanted to know what the performance has been.

Thanks!

Kevin Biomech
2718  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: February 23, 2014, 01:55:47 PM
It seems to me that Bitmine's biggest problem is the same as AMT's. Lack of good front of the house communication. AMT at least have the excuse of being somewhat amateurs.

Funny excuse that.

That aside, I dont see too many parallels. I understand Bitmine customers are nervous, but from where I sit, Bitmine delivered a working asic almost on schedule and fully on spec. Almost unheard of in this industry. As for the miners, while they are late, there is a quite decent protection program that should guarantee customers significant higher hashrate or if need be, a 110% refund . Again, thats unheard off in this industry.

AMT otoh, is a shadowy marketeer who Im betting, is just throwing someone else's boards and chips in an overpriced and unsuitable case and sells that along with a pack of lies.

on schedule ... you do realize they where to be shipped in DEC almost 2 months ago. look at the loss of BTC from those buyers ...on schedule CRAZY !

We were talking about the ASIC, not the machine.

That doesn't make sense either. They were supposed to ship miners Dec 16, which means they should have received chips 1-2 weeks prior. If my understanding is correct, they received chips in enough quantity at the end of January, so two months later  Roll Eyes.

Can't recall. I actually thought they had them first week in January, but I could be wrong. They were late, one way or the other, but less late than most everyone else.

What the hell happened since then is anybody's guess, since Giorgio is contradicting himself and/or ignoring questions... Ah well. I'm glad I have no pre-orders. Missed the boat on KNC Jupiter, and watched too many people get burned on the rest. Ants or used for this cowboy.
2719  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: February 23, 2014, 12:50:55 PM
It seems to me that Bitmine's biggest problem is the same as AMT's. Lack of good front of the house communication. AMT at least have the excuse of being somewhat amateurs.

Funny excuse that.

That aside, I dont see too many parallels. I understand Bitmine customers are nervous, but from where I sit, Bitmine delivered a working asic almost on schedule and fully on spec. Almost unheard of in this industry. As for the miners, while they are late, there is a quite decent protection program that should guarantee customers significant higher hashrate or if need be, a 110% refund . Again, thats unheard off in this industry.

AMT otoh, is a shadowy marketeer who Im betting, is just throwing someone else's boards and chips in an overpriced and unsuitable case and sells that along with a pack of lies.

on schedule ... you do realize they where to be shipped in DEC almost 2 months ago. look at the loss of BTC from those buyers ...on schedule CRAZY !

We were talking about the ASIC, not the machine.
2720  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: February 23, 2014, 12:24:07 PM
It seems to me that Bitmine's biggest problem is the same as AMT's. Lack of good front of the house communication. AMT at least have the excuse of being somewhat amateurs.

Funny excuse that.

That aside, I dont see too many parallels. I understand Bitmine customers are nervous, but from where I sit, Bitmine delivered a working asic almost on schedule and fully on spec. Almost unheard of in this industry. As for the miners, while they are late, there is a quite decent protection program that should guarantee customers significant higher hashrate or if need be, a 110% refund . Again, thats unheard off in this industry.

AMT otoh, is a shadowy marketeer who Im betting, is just throwing someone else's boards and chips in an overpriced and unsuitable case and sells that along with a pack of lies.

Unfortunately, as much as I wished otherwise, I can't disagree with you on AMT. The acute lack of communication on both fronts, however, is not a workable paradigm. Being delayed is nothing new in high tech, though you'd not know it from the fulminations of some of the denizens of this forum. But the opacity? That just don't work.

Not that it's unique to these two entities. It seems damn near a pandemic in the Bitcoin ASIC industry. Make a lot of noise, then shut the fuck up about EVERYTHING, expect the customers (using the term loosely) to wait in the dark until such time as the manufacturer/assembler damn well pleases to say something. Regardless of deadlines, promises, estimations, what have you.

And of course, when called on it, lie. Lie a lot. Then say you weren't lying, or quibble over some small detail like a certain Big Fucking Liar has made a pathetic artform out of.

Or perhaps throw an observer a nice machine and hope they'll stick up for you. (Yeah, self referential, though I'm not the only one). They picked wrong there, in that I fully understand that doing something once is not the same as doing it for production. At the time, I could not have built that machine. I could now, and I could do it in better bulk than they have. In retrospect, I hope that nobody pre ordered on the basis of my experience. I don't like being a pawn. Lesson learned.

I don't understand why these companies, given the EXTREME demand for their product, can't or won't find a group of investors and then sell on hand product. It can't be that difficult, given the damn near guaranteed sale. I'm no expert, but I do know that an ASIC is a relatively simple bit of silicon. They've been around forever. And if I understand how bitcoin works as well as I think I do, then the ASIC involve here is simpler than most. Yet we are all tasked to wait through interminable technical hurdles by alleged professionals. It smells.

From everything I've seen, the A1 is indeed a splendid chip. So at least the engineers know what the hell they're doing. But why the silence from the CEO, or the stubborn refusal to clarify even the simplest parts of their poorly worded TOS? It don't make sense. It tarnishes their reputation, which going into this was pretty good.

Why can an invisible company that came out of left field do these things when a few very ballyhooed companies cannot? (Bitmain vs. Bitmine, Cointerra, Hashfast...?)

I really wish I had access to venture capital. I know engineers that can do this shit. Hell, Micron Technologies is 35 miles from where I sit, and they have excess fabrication capacity right now. This CANNOT be as difficult as they're making it out to be, advanced process node or not. Avalon was a group of students. That should tell us all something.
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