I'm a libertarian anarchist, and flat broke.

I'm also of mixed ancestry, white and Native American.

Widen your scope of investigation, you'll find a lot of us.

I would recommend giving it a bit longer than that. My last staking took about ten days, except one block that took a really long time, but it did come mature in a time when I couldn't have it open all the time.

Also, if you'll look at the wiki, it has very good instructions on coin control. If you have any problems, PM me. I'm pretty decent at translating techie into english

No, it's not.

First off the address is irrelevant, it's the block and the coin age.

Secondly, I think you misunderstand the Proof of Stake mechanism.

This is mining. Just as if you were pointing an ASIC device at a pool, except that the ASIC in this case is the coin block itself. It is part of the calculation, and it has to combine with the newly minted blocks in order for the stake to work and move the network.

It is possible to lock some coins out of the equation, if you need them to be free to spend, but once they are released to stake, they will do their job and become ineligible for stake for the maturity period. For this coin, that's rather short. My other main coin is TEK, where you wait 30 days. There's a lot in between, but right now the only others I recommend are HBN, which is a damn fine coin, and FIRE, which is backed by a man I trust and has recovered pretty nicely since he took over.

POS coins are my primary focus, but I'm far from a comprehensive expert, so take my recommendations with a grain of salt. I hope this helps

I may be TEK's biggest cheerleader, and I agree with your sentiment. I was willing to take it to get the coin working, but I'll stake when diff is low.

As for coin control, that I can help you with.

First off, the coin control features are under "send coins"  Once you get there, hit the "coin control" button in the upper left. It'll open a new window with all the coin control stuff. Make sure it's in List Mode (it's obvious) and it will show you every block regardless of what address it was sent too. Along side each block is a checkbox. Those coins that you mark are the ones that will be sent.

If you want to spread them over a few days, you'll sacrifice a bit of coin age, as each send you make resets the coin age to zero. Not a big deal if you're thinking long term. If you have coins close to staking, I'd leave them alone, other than watching the diff before opening the wallet for staking. But the rest, start choosing blocks and sending the amount you want to stake per day, and send it to yourself. Keep doing that until you're set up the way you want to be. Let me know if you run into any problems. High POS coins have become my thing I've learned a lot.


Damn. You must be my brother!

I'm going to take  a stab at it saturday. It will not be the new GUI, and I'll have step by step notes on what I did (assuming I'm successful).

Very busy right now, sorry I can't be faster with this. As for a dev fund, Thundertoe is the dev, but I'd be happy to act as escrow. I've done it a few times before, for other people.

No, I don't think the rule is unfair. That would involve some level of thought, malice, or at least a distaste for commerce. Which, given this forum's proven history of supporting scams as long as they pay the advertising fees, is an insane thought.

I think this rule is insane. I think this rule is arbitrary and capricious, and a rather pathetic attempt to garner more advertising revenue without any sort of solid advertising plan or rules regarding such, or price lists..

My earlier comments were to BadBear, who I usually like. He ignored them. Since that's been the case, I have merely aired my grievance in public. This does not affect my posting, as I do not (currently) operate any of the now banned essential services. I have watched this unfold, and watched it being (legitimately) ignored. Like it or not, all things cryptocurrency eventually find their way to this forum. If Theymos needs more revenue, that's understandable. He should consult with businesspeople on how he might do that. Arbitrary and capricious rules with the sole purpose of restricting commerce on a website supposedly dedicated to a new form of commerce do not make monetary or ethical sense. Some restriction on the number of posts per thread to prevent spam, sure. A blanket denial on services that we all rely on in some manner? That could ONLY make sense to someone high on drugs or power.

I am a miner, a trader, and an activist. Not necessarily in that order. I follow the latest happenings in a number of threads. I do NOT regularly scan the OP, and judging by the other posts, neither do the majority of your users. This is ordinary and not egregious. Some of these threads run to hundreds of pages, and just keeping up is often difficult, let alone scanning the OP for posts, or seeking out pools or exchanges via other threads. There is NOT ONE THING in this rule that will actually reduce spam, as an enterprising operator is going to start a new thread and get his friends and sock puppets to bump the hell out of it. Why? because it needs to be noticed by the customers, miners, and yes, casual readers of these fora.

This rule was not thought out. I won't say it was poorly thought out because there was CLEARLY no thought behind it. It was the blind reaction of an amoeba to stimulus, or a drunkard, or a crackhead.

I know this will likely be deleted. It don't matter. It will be seen.

I also am calling you, mprep, personally for your statement "I didn't make the rule...". That is the Nuremburg defense. Those men were hanged. It is NOT a valid defense when asked or ordered to do something you KNOW to be morally suspect. It never has been and it never will be. You seem a decent sort, but you need to take a serious look at what you do. Theymos is too lazy to enforce this, and you know it. If you are trying to get it overturned by it's zealous enforcement, say  so. Ulysses S. Grant was not wrong in that assessment. But don't go with the copout. It lessens you.

Short form: You have no idea what you are doing. Or why. Were you guys drinking a LOT when you came up with this?

Following up, my big block did stake finally. Not sure why it staked dead last over smaller, less mature blocks, but it did. As you said, the process is random It was way over max, so I hit the cap. Which I can now report works

As you know I've been on the road, but as of yesterday I have full time internet again. From the time the tech left until about five minutes ago the wallet has been running, plus whenever I could before I got full time 'net. I assumed this could cause some staking issues. What I found odd is that all the small blocks staked, and the 1600 block did not. I just restarted the client, so we'll see if the song remains the same today. If it does, I'll just break the block up and see where it goes from there.

There is weirdness afoot.

All of my blocks EXCEPT the block of 1600, which has ridiculous weight, staked today. But that one still hasn't. I see I'm behind by one wallet, which I'll fix a bit later, but this still seems odd.

Every other time I've had a problem with HyperStake, I did it, so I am assuming I probably did something. Is there a maximum time as well as a minimum? This one is over 40 days.

I'm an atheist, but whatever. Even were I not, I would severely disagree with this. The whole "original sin" argument has never made any sort of rational sense. We are what we are, and only by deeds can we devolve or evolve into something lesser or greater. What you think has no morality, it's what you DO.

Being an anarchist, it don't seem all that crazy to me. But I don't really want to see a corporate oligarchy either, but rather decentralized enclaves of people voluntarily cooperating. Corporations in their current form are able to commit great abuses because they are legally considered a person via a state charter. Juridical persons should not exist. Without the State, Corporations lose that advantage, and must compete fairly, even given their scale. They cannot, for instance, maintain protected monopolies (which contrary to popular propaganda is one of the biggest reasons for a corporation to exist) nor prevent others from bringing innovative competing products to market. Ending the governments will level the playing field far more than any revolution or "reform" ever could.

And I totally agree with your last sentence

If you're talking about it's nature, it hasn't changed significantly since 1917. (When the Senate was abolished in all but name). However, in it's actual presence in our lives and regulation of fucking EVERYTHING, it has accelerated significantly since I was young. When I was a young man, I could carry a rifle practically anywhere if I wasn't waiving it around. I could walk into a courthouse without being searched. I could walk at night without being accosted. I was never even ASKED to identify myself at random. And the police at least pretended to respect the laws they were hired to uphold.

Now, in most parts of the country (I've been to most of them), it's an open police state. They can, and do, kill with impunity. I could go on and on, but I think I make the point.

I never was all that enamored of the fairy tales, but I think the biggest wake up for me was how many of my friends went on vacation to other countries and never came back. When you hear those fairly tales for your whole life, but are able to hack into the networks and see the other side, it gets pretty hard to deny. When you can watch your nation tumbling headlong into the abyss at a pace that would have frightened Nero, then you really have to reassess. The vaunted dollar is worth about -3000% from the time I first entered the workforce. While it's rate of decline is not as bad as it was a couple of years ago, it's still ugly. Wages have not even come close to keeping up with inflation, and yet more dollars are made. I could again cite hundreds of examples, but you get the point.

It has occured to me.

The reason I don't think so, though it would be a beautiful "black" op. is that when it comes to monetary policy, the USG has shown a truly remarkable lack of imagination since their great god J.M. Keynes found his "long run". Now I could see one of the "shadow" organizations within the USG doing it on their own, but it just seems a bit too elegant for their type.

But again, you can't discount the possibility. Especially since it has a counter effect of destabilizing OTHER fiat currencies to a greater degree (due to scale) than the dollar or Euro. It could actually strengthen the big boys by strangling the small ones.

I believe you. Watching it from the inside has been an exercise in frustration. It has become something monstrous and alien in just my lifetime. It doesn't even superficially resemble the country I became an adult in, and that's not a significant amount of time. To me, it looks much like Germany just before the collapse of the Weimar republic.

I also agree with your conclusions.

I hope so. Another 50 bucks down and I can afford to buy a whole bitcoin and hold it

I'd agree if we weren't animals. Perhaps that's something that sets us apart from other animals, though I've seen behaviour in dogs and cats that would suggest otherwise.

Short version, with the caveat that it has been two decades since I formally studied Games and Theory.

Bitcoin presents a clear and present danger to conventional banking and national fiat currencies. At the current level of adoption, this thread is more theoretical than real. However, should certain scenarios occur, such as wider adoption of bitcoin or the collapse of a major currency, then certain agencies (The US treasury being one of them) would have a vested interest in destroying or discrediting the digital currency.

I am presenting this with an understanding of the political process that may not be obvious to those who have never been a part of it, so I must digress for a moment to illustrate that while it is important to the political process to centralize and control a fiat currency, that currency IS NOT the one in which the political masters trade. They trade in power, and in most cases that is measured by the number of humans they control as pawns. In the West, where the main political paradigm is a pseudo-democracy, that is measured in votes. In more direct dictatorships, it is measured in actual controlled humans. In either case, that is the currency they most covet and most protect.

In the above scenario, it is likely that the ascendence of an decentralized and unregulated currency would threaten both their fiat and their franchise. In that case, it would make political sense for them to attempt such a thing, and while the resources were available. A big government could do it, in secret, and fairly quckly. They do not respect patents, and frankly there's nothing magical about ASIC chips. While uneconomic in the narrow sense, it would protect their monopoly, which they DO perceive as more important than anything else.

My conclusion, based on 45 years of living in the United States and watching just how rapacious it's government is, is that it will happen at some point. I am of the opinion that the bitcoin protocol and community are resilient enough to withstand it, but saying that it cannot happen or even that it's unlikely seems too complacent. But adoption will have to reach larger scales by quite a lot before they feel that threatened. Right now it's a diversion and cause for some concern to them. That can change. We want that to change. But we should NEVER be complacent when dealing with something that can potentially break a 500 plus year stranglehold on monetary exchange.

"someone" did execute a better than 51% attack against the US dollar in 1937. Very effectively, and with complete success til the present.

Not a very good analogy, though your point is taken.

I thought that had been changed. I really need to get up to speed on coding It's also good to know that HYP has solid measures in place. I rereading my post, it looks a bit more cautionary than I intended, just meant a comparison of strengths and weaknesses.


..and that's precisely what I was getting at. They are very different coins. Both very cool, and coming from a similar background. TEK has been around quite a while and is a tough bastard. HYP has been trouble free almost from the beginning. I hold both and will continue to do so. These are MY primary coins.