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401  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitok.com , legit ? on: January 06, 2016, 02:25:34 AM
Cards can't be used if you're in the USA, Iceland, or Vietnam. Since I'm in the US, this is one more service I can't use Sad
402  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitok.com , legit ? on: January 04, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
I find them pretty interesting as well.. Apparently been around since March, so I'm a bit surprised that no one seems to have used them or reported on them here.

I might try a visa gift card and see what happens Tongue

Alright , if you do that please reply here with more information's (how much time , fees etc ... )

Yeah, I'll do that if I pull the trigger.
403  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitok.com , legit ? on: January 04, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
I find them pretty interesting as well.. Apparently been around since March, so I'm a bit surprised that no one seems to have used them or reported on them here.

I might try a visa gift card and see what happens Tongue
404  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. on: January 04, 2016, 04:55:48 PM
....
The Earth is flat and we're covered by an artificial dome that keeps the water out. I can prove this beyond a reasonable doubt. ...and for dog's sake turn off the fucking television it's totally fucking your minds!......

Anybody who examines the globe earth theory with any level of scrutiny and still believes it is a fucking retard, the globe model is absolutely ridiculous.

So when we bounce a laser off the top of the dome, how high up does it tell us the dome is?  

Also, please help out - how far can we sail a ship without falling off?  Can we park our boat on the edge, toss a net over the edge, and catch bunches of fish?



How about satellites and airplanes? When we get to see first images taken from the bottom side of the flat earth?  Smiley


I want to go on over to the other side.  You know there has to be reverse gravity there.  That means there would be reverse taxation there.  THey'd pay me.

And there'd be reverse drunk.  You'd be stoned all the time, and to sober up drink a sixpack.

I think you might need a TARDIS to get there, given those conditions Cheesy
405  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. on: January 04, 2016, 01:20:29 AM
The Earth is flat and we're covered by an artificial dome that keeps the water out. I can prove this beyond a reasonable doubt. ...and for dog's sake turn off the fucking television it's totally fucking your minds!

Put a camera in a helium balloon and you will see the earth is round  Smiley

This has been done and it's flat.
I'm really speechless. You genuinely need help if you're this nuts (unless you're just trolling in which case good job).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1318814/Luke-Geissbuhler-son-send-weather-balloon-100-000ft-space-capture-amazing-video-footage.html



"Living in a fisheye lens, caught in the camera eye, I have no heart to lie! I can't pretend a stranger is a long awaited friend."

Got tired of trying to recover from Black Arrow? Or just trolling for fun?
406  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. on: January 04, 2016, 12:39:46 AM
The Earth is flat and we're covered by an artificial dome that keeps the water out. I can prove this beyond a reasonable doubt. ...and for dog's sake turn off the fucking television it's totally fucking your minds!

Put a camera in a helium balloon and you will see the earth is round  Smiley

This has been done and it's flat.

Oh, please.

I've been at 22,000 feet in a Piper Archer II, and the curvature of the earth is OBVIOUS. Hell, even at 7000 feet, the service ceiling of a Quicksilver ultralight, the curvature is obvious.
407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Hi-PoS hybrid pos/pow no premine/ipo/ico on: January 03, 2016, 06:21:57 PM
Biomech or Thundertoe.......

Any word on the fork?  I would also like to know if any thought is put into not having to sync the entire block chain for a wallet. It is becoming cumbersome. Is there a way to draw the line in the sand and say "the past is the past and what happened before..say 6 months ago is archived." then just download from that point to current. then every 6 months, archive another 6 months of the block chain.  Is this possible or just crazy talk?  Man I could see this becoming a monster in a few years, and that can't be good for the industry.

Actually, no, that is not possible without completely changing how the blockchain works. But you can download a bootstrap and speed up the process considerably. I'm pretty sure there's one maintained continuously posted in the OP. If I'm wrong on that, I will see if I can make it happen. I have the knowledge, just need hosting Tongue

Last time I talked to Thundertoe, a bit over a week ago, the fork was still being worked on. I didn't get an ETA. As I noted before, I'm not actually part of the dev team for TEK, aside from being an enthusiast and occasionally helping with testing and what not. I've got some inside contact, but at least currently, no inside information.

Thanks for the explanation Biomech. And the update. I did use a bootstrap, it was a bit dated and I still had to sync a lot of data which took over 30 hours to complete.  I am just considering the future.

TEK is only a couple of years old, and already the blockchain is becoming a bit of a beast.  What is it going to look like in 5 more years? and how is that going to effect folks wanting to have a wallet? If this experiment is ever going to go mainstream, it has to be feasible for folks to have and maintain a wallet. I know this is an issue for Bitcoin and the other Alts as well, but if something CAN be done, this is a way for TEK devs to distinguish this coin from some of the other rabble. Again, I'm not a programmer, and don't quite get the limitations of what can or cannot be done with a blockchain, but some forward looking thought should be put into the coin if we wish it to break away from the pack.

As a business man, I immediately recognized the value of SuperStake, and am now seeing that as a two edged sword.  I totally dislike the idea of trillions of TEK on the market diminishing the coin to absolutely no value. I am hoping that wider adoption, and more folks staking will help to take care of this issue, but if it adoption doesn't happen quickly enough, the stake rate MUST be address or we fail.  The same holds true for blockchain management.

As far as hard forks go, I would much rather see the dev team put some thought into maintaining value and ease of use, rather then simply focusing on preventing micro-staking.  It is arguable that micro-staking, as frustrating as it is for folks who see the difficulty climb and percentages drop, was having a bit of a calming effect on the coin  from a inflationary standpoint. Runaway staking and coin deployment is also not desirable.

Do we want a coin that is something special? If so, the Devs need to have some gimmicks ready. Why buy TEK? because of Superstake, and X, and Y.  We as a community also need to start coming up with ways to use TEK as more then just a staking asset. If the coin had intrinsic value, something other then the eco-mine aspect, (which we adore, but that alone will not save the coin) and the development team needs to be a partner in this.

Do we need to create a donation pool for the Dev team?  I realize they have lives too, and likely jobs to boot!
If compensation for their time a trouble would help, then us as a community have the obligation to make it possible for the team to spend more time on the project.  Perhaps some discussion with the community and some  brainstorming is in order, where members submit ideas and the team considers and discusses what is and is not possible.

I would love to hear Thundertoe weigh in on this a bit.

I can think of a couple of ways to handle blockchain bloat. One is "Thin" clients, like electrum, but able to calculate and properly distribute staking. I suspect this is a fairly trivial exercise for those who can code, but I don't actually know. Another would be to, as you said, combine and truncate the blockchain at some point. This is fraught with uncertainties and likely to be problematic, but it could be done. I actually would favor, in a fork, updating to the newest bitcoin core, because it is much more efficient at downloading the blockchain.

30 hours after using a bootstrap, though, that's weird. I synched from zero in roughly 40 hours. Just a few days ago I did this. Your comments are well thought out, and blockchain bloat is going to be a problem at some point going forward, but I think that the synching problems you're having are local.
408  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. on: January 03, 2016, 06:05:12 PM
.... ..I think a mars colonization project could be funded in that very manner, and I KNOW that it's a valuable exercise. Colonizing mars is NOT trivial, but it is well within our technological capabilities, and it is a far better platform for further exploration and exploitation of space, for multiple reasons. (I can go into those at length should anyone be interested, but in the interim I recommend the book "The Case for Mars" by Dr. Robert Zubrin. While I disagree with some of his plan, I don't disagree with much of it. It's a very good read.

I can't argue with the last sentence, so I won't Cheesy

Zubrin does basically have a method figured out for colonizing Mars, but he oversimplifies industrial processes that may be transported to and used on the planet.

In his view, and those of many advocates of space, the goal is to put people there.

In my view, the goal is to create the self supporting ecosystem which will allow the putting of people there.

We haven't even been able to do that on ISS.  Of course these are interrelated goals.  My opinion is we should have thousands of robots on Mars building things, and establishing viable industrial processes, before moving humans there.  Think in terms of the minimum size of a self sufficient industrial infrastructure.  Assume complex machines and electronics would have to come from Earth for a long time.





I guess I fall in the middle. I think that most of the colony building process should indeed be automated, with machines building bigger machines, etc. But there should also be a team of humans there for when the machines break.
409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin Hi-PoS hybrid pos/pow no premine/ipo/ico on: January 03, 2016, 06:29:48 AM
Biomech or Thundertoe.......

Any word on the fork?  I would also like to know if any thought is put into not having to sync the entire block chain for a wallet. It is becoming cumbersome. Is there a way to draw the line in the sand and say "the past is the past and what happened before..say 6 months ago is archived." then just download from that point to current. then every 6 months, archive another 6 months of the block chain.  Is this possible or just crazy talk?  Man I could see this becoming a monster in a few years, and that can't be good for the industry.

Actually, no, that is not possible without completely changing how the blockchain works. But you can download a bootstrap and speed up the process considerably. I'm pretty sure there's one maintained continuously posted in the OP. If I'm wrong on that, I will see if I can make it happen. I have the knowledge, just need hosting Tongue

Last time I talked to Thundertoe, a bit over a week ago, the fork was still being worked on. I didn't get an ETA. As I noted before, I'm not actually part of the dev team for TEK, aside from being an enthusiast and occasionally helping with testing and what not. I've got some inside contact, but at least currently, no inside information.
410  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Buying and selling BTC, visa gift cards. on: January 03, 2016, 06:25:53 AM
Selling BTC on paxful, primarily, right now. $25 dollar visa gift cards bought with cash. I can do larger amounts by request, but again, must be bought with cash. See my Paxful profile in the OP.
411  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. on: January 03, 2016, 06:23:39 AM
We have to colonize space sooner or later.
We don't really have a choice if we want to survive.
Earth will be destroyed when the sun turns into a red giant.
And there are all kinds of other catastrophic events that could wipe out our civilization.

The sun is a medium aged star.
Humans have had their run on planet earth.
Evolution will get us faster than the sun turning into a red giant.

We're a very young species. Our run has barely begun, and we'll likely be the first off this rock. Yes, we will evolve faster than the sun will, but why restrict it to one planet or star system? Our successors will remember us this time, unlike all other species that we are aware of.

Hmm... Humans have been around in the current form for more than 2 million years.
So I wouldn't call our species young.
Plus we seem to be intent on destroying ourselves (and the planet).
With all the radiation we have unleashed, some mutation (and evolution) must already be taking root.

You've been lied to on this too, human have been around less than 20,000 years. Also man isn't intent on destroying himself, the elites cause the wars and the problems as a means of control. And finally while things do evolve over time man was engineered by whoever build the dome above our heads.

As stated in my previous post, it appears that modern humans are about what you stated, but hominids do appear to be around 2 million years old.
412  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. on: January 03, 2016, 06:21:52 AM
We have to colonize space sooner or later.
We don't really have a choice if we want to survive.
Earth will be destroyed when the sun turns into a red giant.
And there are all kinds of other catastrophic events that could wipe out our civilization.

The sun is a medium aged star.
Humans have had their run on planet earth.
Evolution will get us faster than the sun turning into a red giant.

We're a very young species. Our run has barely begun, and we'll likely be the first off this rock. Yes, we will evolve faster than the sun will, but why restrict it to one planet or star system? Our successors will remember us this time, unlike all other species that we are aware of.

Hmm... Humans have been around in the current form for more than 2 million years.
So I wouldn't call our species young.
Plus we seem to be intent on destroying ourselves (and the planet).
With all the radiation we have unleashed, some mutation (and evolution) must already be taking root.

Estimates vary, but modern humans appear to be younger than that. Hominids, definitely. But even given that, Crocodilians are over 65 million years old, and still quite successful.

to address the rest, I think it's not so much that we're intent on destroying the planet (or at least it's ecosphere), as that we make mistakes. We solve a problem, crudely, and that creates more problems, which we also solve, with greater and greater degrees of accuracy, and in so doing create new ones and so on. If we can get it together enough on the ecosphere, we'll do alright. But we still have the problem of being ABLE to destroy most life on the surface of the planet. Which, in turn, illustrates the value of space exploration.

Now don't get me wrong, I am NOT in favor of tax supported space exploration. I believe that a far less egregious use of the ill gotten gains of the taxman than starting and maintaining pointless wars with no end, but it's still attained by theft. But companies like SpaceX and Virgin Galactic? They're doing it right, monetarily. Selling the risk to those WILLING to invest, and developing viable strategies. I think a mars colonization project could be funded in that very manner, and I KNOW that it's a valuable exercise. Colonizing mars is NOT trivial, but it is well within our technological capabilities, and it is a far better platform for further exploration and exploitation of space, for multiple reasons. (I can go into those at length should anyone be interested, but in the interim I recommend the book "The Case for Mars" by Dr. Robert Zubrin. While I disagree with some of his plan, I don't disagree with much of it. It's a very good read.

I can't argue with the last sentence, so I won't Cheesy
413  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. on: January 03, 2016, 04:30:56 AM
We have to colonize space sooner or later.
We don't really have a choice if we want to survive.
Earth will be destroyed when the sun turns into a red giant.
And there are all kinds of other catastrophic events that could wipe out our civilization.

The sun is a medium aged star.
Humans have had their run on planet earth.
Evolution will get us faster than the sun turning into a red giant.

We're a very young species. Our run has barely begun, and we'll likely be the first off this rock. Yes, we will evolve faster than the sun will, but why restrict it to one planet or star system? Our successors will remember us this time, unlike all other species that we are aware of.
414  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. on: January 01, 2016, 09:06:51 AM
I need to know what the point of spending thousands of US dollars on space trips is meant for. I don't know what we've accomplished and found beneficial to society and the overall growth of human living by having money and such being tossed for the government to send random men up into space. I don't understand why space travel is so necessary. Please tell me how the moon launchings weren't fake, or needed for the human race.
The point is research, without research we would still be living in the dark ages. There are uses beyond "putting guy in space",  satellite network provides you with GPS, tv.  If you are wondering about taxes you might as well wonder whats the point of spending thousands of US dollars on mass surveillance  Roll Eyes
Research is necessary but only when there's a point. I have yet to be given one beneficial thing society got out of these launchings. Please tell me what we got out them.

It's probably been covered, but I just discovered the thread.

You want one thing, or a few thousand? I'll give you just one for now.

The device you're reading this on. the technology that it was developed from was a direct line of descent from the Apolo project.

Humanity NEEDS to grow up. One world is not enough. We have an open ended reproductive strategy and will eventually overpopulate this planet to the point of extinction of our species. This is inevitable if we do not find REAL solutions. One of those solutions is to colonize near space, and eventually, deep (interstellar space). Granted, "Flag and Footprint" missions are essentially pointless, but that was really a long time ago. I was 9 months old the first time that was  done. What we discovered there, political imperatives aside, is that the moon isn't a real good target.

But Mars is. It has everything we need to establish an offworld home, and it's low gravity makes it an ideal launch point for bigger and longer missions.

While I disagree with the "tax supported" model, I think that there is little in our history with as much importance as the exploration and development of extraterrestrial space.
415  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Buying and selling BTC, various methods. on: January 01, 2016, 12:55:58 AM
would you sell me $60 worth of btc for an amazon gc paid for with cash and receipt?

I'm not currently set up to process Amazon, nor resell them. In the future, yes. However, I can recommend a couple people on Localbitcoins who might be able to do so today.

Opticbit frequently deals in various gift cards, and coinbit1984 occasionally does Amazon. I've dealt with both men with good results. There are quite a few others, but I've no experience with them.

what methods of payments do you accept for btc then?

right now, until I get my research done, pretty much visa/mc giftcards, WU/MG or walmart2walmart. I will do small amounts with paypal, until I've done a few trades with a person and they ain't charging back. Amazon interests me, but I don't know what I'm doing yet.
416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][1000 SYNC]| FULL POS| COLORED COIN |VIP Discount Club & Wallet Rental on: January 01, 2016, 12:01:30 AM
Such a shame.  I was hoping to solo mine it since I can't find any more pools.

Someone still supports this somewhere...


This is gonna sound harsh, and it is, but it's not JUST aimed at you.

PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!

Sync had a very brief mining period, after which it became pure Proof Of Stake. This was when the original developer was still active. Like over a year ago. If you did find an active pool, you'd find an idiot or a scammer running it, there's NO mining.

I see this a lot on POS coins. "Where's the pool". There's no pools. There can't be.
417  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Buying and selling BTC, various methods. on: December 31, 2015, 11:55:22 PM
would you sell me $60 worth of btc for an amazon gc paid for with cash and receipt?

I'm not currently set up to process Amazon, nor resell them. In the future, yes. However, I can recommend a couple people on Localbitcoins who might be able to do so today.

Opticbit frequently deals in various gift cards, and coinbit1984 occasionally does Amazon. I've dealt with both men with good results. There are quite a few others, but I've no experience with them.
418  Economy / Digital goods / Buying and selling BTC, visa gift cards. on: December 31, 2015, 11:44:55 PM
I buy and sell BTC fairly regularly.

Currently, I am buying with $25 visa gift cards. See my profiles on localbitcoins and paxful, linked below. If you don't see the deal you're looking for, ask here, I might be able to facilitate your needs. I will consider all methods if the price is right AND I feel comfortable with the trade.

https://paxful.com/user/ThatGuyWithTheHat

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/Biomech

I don't deal outside of escrow, don't bother asking. That being said, I'm willing to set up a specific deal for people that is negotiated here, but it will be on either paxful or localbitcoins for their escrow services, or through a trusted escrow provider that we can mutually agree on.
419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★★ GameCredits - The future of in-game monetization ★★★ on: December 31, 2015, 06:52:13 PM
Well, boys and girls, it appears we got a little ahead of ourselves. Small team, lots of confidence, but we're human nevertheless.

Don't worry, the contest will happen, and Grand Prix, webwallet, all the stuff we've promised will be delivered. Just not quite as quick as we thought. All the problems are being worked on and will be fixed. We'll reset the contest accordingly, as the first launch had problems for a number of people, which makes it unfair. We like fair, so we're just fixing it and changing the dates. There is no official relaunch just yet, we want to make dead sure it WORKS this time.

To all of you who've been in on this, thank you very much! Even when you break it, you help us. We try to break it before we launch, sometimes we fail. But with all you smart people attacking it, it'll be bullet proof when we're done Cheesy
420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: December 27, 2015, 05:15:05 PM
Reading the first pages of this thread are so satisfying. I could see the nostalgia of those people who were from the thread.

I agree, Bitcoin has so much potential its ridiculous. As soon as the cartels, catch on to Bitcoin it will add 100's of millions into the Bitcoin economy. Think about it, Columbia cocaine producers get a payment of bitcoins from mexico, no need to try and smuggle money through mexico into columbia.

It's probably double-edged sword, when that time comes there'll be so much regulation using it won't be as cheap and convenient as we are using it right now.

ah, but how do you EFFECTIVELY regulate a peer to peer pseudo anonymous system that knows no borders?
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