@Sithara007 According to you, how ICC's new revenue allocation policy should look like? Considering it's on record and a well established fact that BCCI contributes 90% of revenue?
Do you think that BCCI now has a genuine claim or it's still an unfair demand? IMO they should get a bigger pie this time.
None of the sports bodies work that way. USA and EU contribute to more than 50% of FIFA revenues. But these countries don't get any extra funding from the FIFA, and in case of USA their grants are much lower compared to high performing countries such as Argentina and France. Funding should be based on performance, and not based on where the funds originate. First of all, this tiered structure of full members and associate nations should be done away with. And then, funds should be allocated based on performance (only after repealing the current eligibility laws, which allow a "national" team to be comprised of 100% foreign citizens). A comparison with FIFA doesn't make sense at all. We have an ICC tournament every freaking year, it's not the case with the former. Then there is full members and associate nations drama. USA ($25T) and EU ($17T) are developed economies and they contribute more than 50% of FIFA revenues according to you (or maybe at best 60-70%). In comparison, a developing economy like India ($3.5T) contributes 90% of ICC revenue. Stark differences in all indicators, don't you think? |
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IMO, it is not a foolish decision from the PCB to send a young and inexperienced team to face Afghanistan. T20 rankings doesn't matter much (unlike the case with ODIs and tests), and it is always good to build a player pool for the future. And we need to admit that there were a few positives from the first two matches. And Pakistan comprehensively won the third match despite overwhelming odds. Saim Ayub (20-years old) and Iftikhar Ahmed clicked with the bat, while in the bowling department there was good performances from Ihsanullah and Zaman Khan.
Nobody is saying that PCB must not test new talent from PSL but the way new players are tested is not a wise move. If you see team of first 2 t20Is then majority are making debut or coming back to national team after a long break. Lets not forget that Pakistan is team that is playing more T20 then Test and ODIs. Already Pakistan has lost home series against NZ, Aus and England, and now this series is also lost. If you history of Pak vs Afghanistan then all matches are very narrow win for Pakistan. Still PCB decided to send a new team against mighty Afghanistan. Tbh that's how you build a strong bench in any format, new guys need more experience in international too and this series wasn't high profile so it make sense. First choice players need some breaks as well, as most of them just took part in PSL so the board needs to take care of the player's workload. |
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@Sithara007 According to you, how ICC's new revenue allocation policy should look like? Considering it's on record and a well established fact that BCCI contributes 90% of revenue?
Do you think that BCCI now has a genuine claim or it's still an unfair demand? IMO they should get a bigger pie this time.
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BCCI Announces Annual Player retainer ship 2022-23You can read the names and the annual packages here. What surprised me is that many players on that list have not played any cricket but still get retained. If you want to pay players then pay on the basis of their performance and not on the basis of their celebrity status. For example - Japsrit Bhumrah has been out of any form of cricket for quite some time but he still gets retained on grade A+. The same is for Rishabh Pant he is in grade A and most probably he won't be playing any form of cricket for the next year or two minimum. Whereas KL Rahul got downgraded for his pathetic performance to grade B. Doesn't it look like favoritism to you guys? Maybe management thinks that Bumrah and Pant are MVP players for India and they are not wrong in their assessment if we look at their performances. So backing them atm makes sense despite they are out of the action. KL Rahul being downgraded is actually quite good, if you are not performing then it's bound to happen (Dropped from T-20, Tests and lost the VC). |
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Sending humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, going ahead with pending infrastructure work or training existing batches of cadets hardly implies that India standing behind the Taliban, considering they still didn't recognize the Taliban as a government. BCCI does back ACB, let's see what happens. At least politically, Indian government considers Afghanistan as one of the allies (despite the takeover by Taliban), and have provided them backing when required in UN and other global bodies. Please point me to one instance where the Indian government has backed the Taliban on any international platform since the regime change (barring humanitarian aid). India (doesn't matter which gov) sees Afghanistan from a civilizational point of view, irrespective of all political/ideological differences. That's why they never stop aid etc as it directly focuses on civilians. Then there is some geo-political compulsion. You and I already discussed the Nepal issue couple of times so there is no point in repeating my take on the Nepal issue. In Myanmar, India has supported the Rohingya and Chin rebel groups and have supported UN resolutions against Myanmar on the Rohingya issue. The church-controlled states such as Mizoram and Nagaland have allowed Chin rebel groups to establish their bases near the Myanmar border, from where they regularly attack the Tatmadaw.
Relation with Myanmar is a mixed bag. Indian foreign policy with the bordering neighbor is quite consistent and Myanmar is no exception. Indian political support for democratic Myanmar is no surprise and yeah CDF rebel group is creating problems but India can't just kick them out because they will be killed. Despite this they also have fairly good relations with the military Junta due to long security cooperation with Tatmadaw in regards to the counter-insurgency in the northeast, that's why they never criticize them openly. Hell, they didn't even condemn the coup openly as they like to engage with all powers because of the long border and don't want to push them toward china completely. It's a tightrope and a lot of monkey balancing is going on but completely fine as it minimizes the damage.
Let's go back to cricket drama. |
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^^ Damn some crazy hitting in this match. I was watching WPL and in mid-overs got the alert of WI vs SA. Boy o boy! 100 runs in just the first 5 overs and Quinton de kock was going bonkers against Windies. Actually, every batter went berserk against the bowlers. Scorecard looks like they introduced bowling machines in this match.  Fancode sub came to the rescue today.
Edit Lol Proteas did it, record run chase in T-20 history. |
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Terrible performance by Sri Lanka, was expecting it to be a fair encounter and eventually loosing the match as the target is not that huge but they failed to score 100 runs.
Netherlands and Zimbabwe are playing and hopefully it will be another thriller and the winner takes the series, for the first time Netherlands are batting first and got to a great start.
Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh.... these are some of the dying teams in international cricket. With each passing year, the gap between them and the rest of the test playing nations get wider and wider. South Africa was also moving in that direction, but Brexit and the termination of Kolpak system which resulted from that made their lives easier. Today was a black day for Sri Lanka. They lost by close to 200 runs. Even associate nations such as Scotland and Namibia perform better than this when they face against New Zealand. Criticism is fine but in recent times there are some achievements too as far as SL and Bangladesh are concerned. In red-ball cricket, Sri Lanka drew the series against Pakistan, Australia and almost won the first test match against the Kiwis. They are also defending champions of the Asia cup. Bangladesh whitewashed England in ODI and in ODI won against India 2-1. They were about to win the 2nd test but Shreyas and Ashwin ruined their plan with the bat. |
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Tough situation for ACB as they are helpless against the Taliban and can't blame ICC or other boards if they kick them out or degrade their full membership status to associates. Rules are very clear in the book that you must have a Women's domestic setup, no matter what.
Would be better if ICC cut ACB's funding and allocate this particular amount to Afghan women's cricket, then these girls can make their base in another country. Afg Men's team did the same and had a home ground in India. This way ACB could avoid a ban.
Well.. this one looks like the most probable resolution to the issue. Zimbabwe was suspended for sometime and the funds frozen, after ICC found government intervention in day-to-day running of Zimbabwe cricket. Nepal also faced the same fate sometime back. Charges against Afghanistan are far more serious and may result in equal or more severe penalty from the ICC. One plus point for Afghanistan is that both the Indian government, as well as the BCCI have stood like a rock behind the Taliban regime, providing all the support they could. For ICC, it will be difficult to ignore the stance from the BCCI. Sending humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, going ahead with pending infrastructure work or training existing batches of cadets hardly implies that India standing behind the Taliban, considering they still didn't recognize the Taliban as a government. BCCI does back ACB, let's see what happens.
But the women in Afghanistan are far happier compared to the women in Australia, New Zealand, or other first-world countries.
Duke Khan
Yeah right, in a parallel world! |
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Today a very important ICC board meeting is scheduled. Multiple issues will come up for discussion today. The first topic is regarding allocation to various boards for the 2024-27 cycle. ICC revenues have increased by more than 3 times as a result of the auction of media rights, but this time the BCCI wants a lions share of the revenue. There is a high chance that no concrete decision will be taken on this topic today. Second topic is regarding the future of Afghanistan cricket board. Wisden published an article yesterday, arguing that ECB and CA should pull out of the ICC in case Afghanistan is not suspended. https://wisden.com/stories/opinion/opinion-crickets-response-afghanistan-woeful-ecb-ca-withdraw-icc-protest Tough situation for ACB as they are helpless against the Taliban and can't blame ICC or other boards if they kick them out or degrade their full membership status to associates. Rules are very clear in the book that you must have a Women's domestic setup, no matter what. Would be better if ICC cut ACB's funding and allocate this particular amount to Afghan women's cricket, then these girls can make their base in another country. Afg Men's team did the same and had a home ground in India. This way ACB could avoid a ban. |
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As expected Sanju Samson has started questioning SKY. Shashi Tharoor has been vocal about Sanju Samson not being part of the Indian 11. After the IPL If his performance is better than SKY then I think he will be of the Indian 11 in the world cup.  ~~~~ Elections are due in around 12 months from now, and Shashi Tharoor knows that he can't win without the support from the Christian voters (~25% in his consistency). The reason why he remembers Samson all of a sudden is just because he needs votes from that particular section. Samson was given plenty of chances previously and now the BCCI should consider some of the other promising youngsters to replace SKY (if needed). There is no comparison between SKY and Samson. SKY is miles ahead in terms of consistency and skills. Shashi Tharoor as a character has a "weak knees" reputation due to his flirtatious behavior. But IMO as a politician he's one of the sane voices and he hardly needs an appeasement tactic for votes, ok maybe sometimes but not every statement is related to vote bank politics, especially when it comes to cricket. I firmly believe that he loves Indian cricket and from time to time gives his opinion as a fan, one might agree or disagree with it but that's a different ballgame. |
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~snip~
Am excited for DC vs MI match since it's the final market in one of my accumulators. It's very tough to predict who will win between them.
I just hope that it won't be a one sided contest since that would make a boring finale.
I am going to cheer for DC as it's my home team and also never got the opportunity to see the DC franchise in the finals lol (well, except one time). Both teams are equally good and obviously in good nick so hard to predict and we can hope for a good contest but I believe Mumbai has an upper hand, not because they are superior but because as a franchise they are famous to seize the moment when it matters most. |
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Looks like DCW and MIW will play the finals now.
UP Warriors are struggling, already 3 down on 30-odd runs and they are chasing a 180+ target. Need a couple of blinder innings with some cameo from the lower-middle order, if not then it's game over for UPW.
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There is no surprise in the overdependence on foreign players. It was also inflated by the fact that some capped Indian players were out of form.
But at the same time, we can confidently say that this inaugural season will only help Indian women's cricket as far as the talent pool is concerned. Yes, it'll take some time to mature but things are going in the right direction.
Even among the capped Indian players, only a few have participated in franchise T20 leagues such as the W100 and WBBL. And those who have that experience have played well in this season. Anyway, the inaugural season of the WPL is more like a learning experience, for both the capped and uncapped Indian players. One thing that I would like to see next time is the participation of more associate players. But it is not going to happen, given the aversion for associate players from the WPL/IPL franchises. Tara Norris was the only associate player this time, despite having a maximum quota of 5 (1 per team). I think The 100 league only allows 3 overseas players per squad (squad of 15 players) so it cut down the list drastically and sometimes they don't even draft 3 players, resulting in only marquee players getting the contract. If I am not wrong then (not sure) BBL as a league is a bit generous as they pick 5 overseas players in the squad and 3 in the playing XI. Tough call for associate players, I'll also add Bangladesh and Sri Lanka (or Pak) too in this mix. Guess need 3 more teams to entertain more women's players. ~snip~
I also know the talent pool for women cricket in India is very less but what makes it more depressing is those who are playing in WPL are not at all suitable to play league cricket. A lot of work has to be done and I think it will take couple of years or more to do it.
Completely agree with the statement, we can only hope for the best. |
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Muscat in Oman is likely to host matches involving India, as that city is slightly colder compared to the UAE locations during summer. And in case India progresses to the semi-finals or finals, will these matches be still played in neutral venues? Anyway, this was the most logical solution to the issue and make sure that ACC will not suffer any losses. PCB may lose out on considerable revenues in the form of gate collection and sponsorship, but even for them it is much preferable when compared to the scenario where the tournament is cancelled altogether. You seem optimistic about the Indian team reaching the finals lol Well, jokes apart. Yeah in such a case venue will be neutral as the Indian team won't visit Pakistan. True, it's not a perfect situation for Pakistan but at least there is something for them too and both parties can claim some sort of victory and do chest thumping. I'd like it if they opt for SL as a neutral venue. He's a genuine cricket fan so there is no conspiracy IMO. |
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But at the same time, we can confidently say that this inaugural season will only help Indian women's cricket as far as the talent pool is concerned. Yes, it'll take some time to mature but things are going in the right direction.
The tournament is a success as more people are watching the Women's Cricket and more opportunities for the players to earn a good purse which is much bigger than their International remunerations and the young generations will be taking note of that on a global scale and will be focusing on earning these WIPL contacts and in the future we will see more talents. Did ratings come out recently? Last I checked overall reach was around 50-ish Million for the first week, this report came out last week or so and after that, I didn't notice any new report but surely WPL attracting serious eyeballs so it looks fine so far, although we have to wait a couple of weeks for the final numbers. Oh yeah, big fat checks for Women's players. In comparison, The 100 Draft came out just now and the highest paycheck for Men and Women are £125K and £31K respectively. |
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Except a few Indian players most teams in the WPL are dependent on the performance of overseas players. India's talent pool in women cricket is saturated. I am sure the BCCI would work on this issue to make things more competitive. At the moment it is MI who are looking as the front runner to pick the trophy of WPL.
There is no surprise in the overdependence on foreign players. It was also inflated by the fact that some capped Indian players were out of form. But at the same time, we can confidently say that this inaugural season will only help Indian women's cricket as far as the talent pool is concerned. Yes, it'll take some time to mature but things are going in the right direction. |
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Not talking about the ICC trophy (or bilaterals for that matter) at all but ICC knockouts. They have to clear knockouts to reach finals first that's why arguing that if more teams are added in the ICC tournaments then they won't even reach knockouts, which they do regularly in almost every ICC tourney.
I am implying 2007 like scenario repeating every now n then if the ICC tourney becomes multi team competition (16-20 teams on the group stage).
The best and most practical solution to this, is to add a few more teams from India. Along with the senior Indian team, there can be an Indian U-25 team (captained by Ishan Kishan or Rishabh Pant) and an Indian A team (captained by players like Natarajan who are not preferred by the Indian selectors). This will retain the viewer interest in the tournament, in case India senior team gets knocked out during the group phase. And what is the issue in having a few more teams, when we have United Arab Emirates and Oman fielding teams entirely comprised of Indian citizens? Maybe but I feel that's a stretch, not sure if it's possible as it goes against the basic logic of 1 country and 1 team so i'd say in the current ICC set up it's impossible. Having said that if by any chance (Taking a wild scenario) BCCCI forms a parallel ICC or a new setup of the World cricket body then yeah, it's very much possible. But for this, we need a new ICC vs BCCI event and in a hypothetical situation, a possible friction point could be a revenue model or a big IPL window. |
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Let me be blunt here.
If ICC decides to add 10 more teams in the ICC WC (20-ish teams) then this Indian team won't even reach the knockouts. Not saying they are not good but there is some serious problem with the mindset and it shows from time to time in important matches and big worry is no one is willing to address this issue. I really don't understand how come our batter forget to play spin. At one point Indian batters used to treat legendary Warne and Murli like club bowlers.
That maybe a wrong comparison. India never performs well during ICC tournaments. They are the best when they participate in bilateral tours. When was the last time the Indian team won an ICC championship? I believe it was at least a decade ago, when Mahendra Singh Dhoni was the captain. But I agree with you on the last part. We had legendary batsmen, who would smash top-quality spinners like Muttiah Muralitharan, Shane Warne and Saqlain Mushtaq all around the park. Current batsmen would struggle against Zampa and Murphy. Not talking about the ICC trophy (or bilaterals for that matter) at all but ICC knockouts. They have to clear knockouts to reach finals first that's why arguing that if more teams are added in the ICC tournaments then they won't even reach knockouts, which they do regularly in almost every ICC tourney. I am implying 2007 like scenario repeating every now n then if the ICC tourney becomes multi team competition (16-20 teams on the group stage). |
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The Australian side were earlier able to break the Indian record of 18 consecutive series win on home ground from 2016 till 2019. From 2019 till yesterday the Indian team had a winning streak of 26 consecutive home series win until yesterday. The only team that can challenge India in the upcoming ODIWC is Australia.
Again the Indian batting line-up failed to give the boost India needed in this series. SKY has been going through a bad patch in his career. He doesn't have the luxury like other batters to get selected if they perform badly for a couple of years. He needs to get his shit right if he wants to be part of the top 11.
Sanju samson fans have again started asking questions on why he is not getting selected as a replacement for SKY.
Let me be blunt here. If ICC decides to add 10 more teams in the ICC WC (20-ish teams) then this Indian team won't even reach the knockouts. Not saying they are not good but there is some serious problem with the mindset and it shows from time to time in important matches and big worry is no one is willing to address this issue. I really don't understand how come our batter forget to play spin. At one point Indian batters used to treat legendary Warne and Murli like club bowlers. |
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