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641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Letting the cat out of the bag on: November 18, 2023, 05:47:38 PM
How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

From my own experience, I get to know that those gamblers who are secretly gambling in their rooms and develop the addiction habit have the biggest problem, gambling addiction is like 'wanting more' and never getting enough, you will have all day thinking about gambling, maybe if you do this or you do that, maybe the result will be different.

I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.


Have never dealt with a rock bottom gambler in my life.  A lot of my friends like me are casual betters and just lay bets on sports to make them more entertaining, fantasy football leagues etc.  Same thing with brick and mortar casinos, go there to have fun.  No one has had life issues like losing a family, house, missing bills etc.  But I'd have to say it's difficult to alter anyone addicted to anything.  Most of the time they need professional help for permanent results.
642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: November 18, 2023, 05:27:05 PM

Went 1-2 on the 11th to bring my 13 day total to 20-19 against the book.  Riding the line here early in the season.

Day 14 bets all away favorites.:

Bucks-7.5 on the road against the Hornets.
Knicks -6.5 on the road against the Wizards
Sixers -1.5 on road

I think the favorites are really gonna put theor foot down being tonight is part of the in season tourny.  Good luck tonight everyone!

Clean sweep 3-0 last night. Bringing my 14 day total to 23-19.  All those games were blowouts and not even close. Tonight there are a couple odds that are suspect.

Bulls +2.5 at home thought the odds would be a little higher taking the home team here.

Riding the Knicks here but on a second day of a back to back, just think the Hornets are that bad.  Knicks -7

Last Pelicans +6.5 at home against the wolves.  This is higher than I thought it would have been.  Taking the home year here tonight.

Good luck everyone.
643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Poloniex was hacked (Security Breach Discussion) on: November 17, 2023, 08:01:58 PM
Well, guys, I guess a lot of you already know this. Poloniex, aka Justin Sun's own Exchange, suffered a hack of 60M+ USD, and they are offering a 5% Bounty (if there are any white hat hackers here or do you know an interested one, here is the official announcement https://x.com/Poloniex/status/1722956238160536049?s=20).
On the other hand, TRX and USDD do not seem to suffer any backlash from this news.

Topic Security Breach and Protection Layers. Do you think that Exchanges and DeFI need more development and investments here or is this just something we have to lay down our heads and deal with?

I will be honest I never even knew that poloniex was even still operating lol.  I used to use them a long time ago and it was a pretty good exchange.  Do they even still operate in the US?  But on this note why do people keep.their crypto on exchanges?  Seriously will people ever learn?  It's not a wallet amd shouldn't be treated as such otherwise you will inevitably lose your money.
644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Eloncoin will be massive. on: November 17, 2023, 07:59:22 PM
There have been controversies and arguments on how Elon musk has been a great influence in the crypto market. How his influence has been making waves to promote other altcoin like Dogecoin and Shiba Inu and some other coin unknown to me. I now start thinking that if his influence can skyrocket other coins. What more of his own coin. People has been asking about the best altcoin to buy or hold and nobody ever thought of eloncoin, So there comes to the thought that eloncoin will be massive when it lunches. So it's time to accumulate eloncoin. His name alone has given it a massive boom.

I have tried to check it's total supply and exchanges which it could be operated, but I haven't seen. it's just a unique coin just as Elon musk always like his things to be. So I see it as one of the most important altcoin to hold because it future will be bright.

What do you guys think about eloncoin?


I think it's just as dumb as the rest of these pointless coins.  Someone is using his name to get recognition amd weirdly enough stupid people are buying this coin.  What purpose does it serve other than enriching the scammers who "built" this coin?  At some point the madness has to stop.
645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 17, 2023, 07:57:53 PM
What a tough game with a lot of injuries on star players, TE Mark Andrews is out for the rest of the season due to an ankle injury, we will not know exactly the severity of the injury of Burrow until later today, but the NFL is going to launch an investigation due to some allegations Burrow was already injured and the Bengals failed to report it, and finally even if Lamar returned to the game at least to me he looked a little bit shy when running the ball, hopefully the long week of rest will allow him to recover completely from his injuries.

In my other league I have Andrew's.  Just getting JJettas back and now Andrew's is down.  I kmwo its just fantasy goofball but dang it hurts when these guys go down lol.  Have to scramble to figure out the rest of your season.  This year has been brutal for top ff picks.
646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 17, 2023, 07:56:30 PM
Some interesting games on tonight all in season playoff games.  Interested to see how all this plays out.  As a knicks fan unsure how they proceed since they already lost to the Bucks.  I guess if they run it out and Bucks lose a couple or they are a top wild card they can make it?

For the wild card only the top two none group winning teams make it out.  What happens if 3 teams end up with the same record?  Since there isn't head to head how do they put two forward?
647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: November 17, 2023, 07:54:11 PM

Went 1-2 on the 11th to bring my 13 day total to 20-19 against the book.  Riding the line here early in the season.

Day 14 bets all away favorites.:

Bucks-7.5 on the road against the Hornets.
Knicks -6.5 on the road against the Wizards
Sixers -1.5 on road

I think the favorites are really gonna put theor foot down being tonight is part of the in season tourny.  Good luck tonight everyone!
648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Shiba inu get to $1 on: November 16, 2023, 09:55:47 PM
Nothing could be said for certainty in crypto. And fundamentals are still a vague thing to compare on while dealing with crypto.
Shiba Inu is still holding itself to the pro league. They are already popular among most of the laymen. Arguably among top 10 most know crypto. Their total supply is dubious, but we know most of it is either locked or burned. And if they keep on being able to create a buzz around them, one day, on a long bull run, they could eventually reach $1.
Yes, no one knows for sure what crypto will be like in the future. But at least we need a rational target. In this case regarding Shiba Inu, I might feel a little doubtful because for Doge it is still a little difficult to reach $1. Moreover, we are not sure whether in the next bullish era, memecoin will still be as hyped as in the previous era.

but on the other hand, I also don't deny it if sometimes a miracle just happens and is very surprising, like what happened to Doge in the past. Where no one thought that the coin would actually skyrocket like that. So, it remains to be seen whether Shiba Inu can really develop and survive various pressures in the market and can expand its market cap, and strengthen and develop its fundamentals. This requires cooperation from various parties, especially from the team, and of course from investors and also Shiba Inu traders. So, it is possible that it could happen, but we don't know how many percent or when.

You hit the nail on the head with this statement.  Most people are looking at the meme market and think it will replicate what it did last run.  The thing with crypto culycles is that every cycle there is a new genre of coins that seem to take off.  Memes will die slowly is my guess as people jump off to the next best thing.
649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Plan for making a small dream come true on: November 16, 2023, 09:53:55 PM
Honestly these are decent exit points.  Nothing too insanely crazy on here.  A lot of times people expect things to automatically go up 100x or 1000x which is insane.  The good thing here is that you have a plan.  Stick to it and don't look back if these prices are ever hit.  Good luck.
650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 16, 2023, 09:52:15 PM
Also Celtics kinda showed us that 76ers are not what they look like and as soon as they block Embiid , there is nowhere left to actually carry the game for them and now I do think that maybe they made a mistake letting Harden go ? could be.

Nah, they are good without Harden, Maxey is taking Harden's place now, it's that the Boston Celtics has the best duo in the NBA right now, Tatum and Brown, and they are very consistent this season.

For the Lakers, it's a up and down game against the Kings. The biggest issue with the team right now is that they simply allow their opponents to take a big lead and they have a hard time trying to catch up. Another team that is also inconsistent and I doubt that they are a championship caliber in the West right now. Kings kryptonite is the Warriors, but if the Warriors can't get their act together maybe if they play the Kings in the playoff, it will be a different story.

Agreed I think every team that has Harden leave is almost a net positive for them.  Harden is good no doubt but he isn't a type of player that makes his team better.  Looks like his teammates get disinterested when he is on the court.  Think something is off with his ego and/or personality which makes it not work on the court.
651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 16, 2023, 09:50:32 PM

At least Arthur finally gave him a sizable workload, I think he had like 22 carries.  Of course that has to do with the fact that they were up or close to being up the whole game.

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People will do everything but admit it was a mistake to waste an early round pick on a rookie RB that went to a team that uses a committee.

I thought this was hilarious!

Seriously doing deep dives on peoples family because your guy didn't get enough carries is completely over the top!

I don't think there's anything wrong with drafting rookie RBS.  Often times high draft pick rookie backs perform pretty well.  Not to mention the average running back lifespan is like 3.5 years, so getting use out of them when they have fresh legs tends to make sense.  Bijan wasn't a bad pick either, he's around 10th most points scored for RBs, which could be a whole lot worse.  I agree though, it's insane the level of hatred people can grow to just off of ones fantasy play lol


Heck of a game tomorrow ladies and gents.  Cincy versus Baltimore..bit of a nice change from last weeks Bears/Panthers game lol

Looks like Ravens are favored by -3.5  Cant wait to see how it turns out.

Why is this -3.5 only? Is this because the Bengals won against the Bills on week 9? But the Bills are not a very good team for 2023. They also lost vs. Russell Wilson and the Broncos on week 10 hehehehe. Also, it might be because the Ravens lost to the Brown?

In any case, I reckon good bets on week 11 might be New York Giants +9 and also the Cowboys -11. The Commanders will not win -9. Also on the Cowboys, if they can win against the spread with -16 against the Giants they can also do this against the Panthers.

As a giants fan I don't approve this message lol.  I don't know how anyone could bet on the giants no matter the opponent or spread at this point.  My guess is if you bet against them every week you will beat the book overall.  They can't throw the ball and everyone knows that so they will just stack the box.
652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Owners of betting companies bet? on: November 16, 2023, 09:48:23 PM
Do owners of betting companies place bet on their own platform or is there a policy specific policy that restricts them from betting. Do you think that there would be conflict of interest or that it will be unethical if owners bet on their own platforms. These are the questions that I am seeking an answer to.

If he is the owner of his site what would be the point.  It would go into his profit and loss, and honestly he would end up losing as he would have to pay taxes on his winnings or profit if his casino won.  I don't get the point of why someone would do that.  Maybe they would bet on another site to lessen the risk they have on their own I could see that happening.
653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 15, 2023, 07:34:33 PM
Not sure if this has really been discussed her or not yet..but what do you all think about the Zach Lavine rumors?  As a Chicago Bulls fan, I think we got the better of the Jimmy Butler/Lavine trade, and he's been a fun and exciting player to watch these past few years, but it's time to blow it up.  Lavine is not good enough to be a teams leading star, and would fit much better as a number 2 or 3 option.  The Bulls aren't heading anywhere with this team, so time to move on a rebuild.  Thoughts?  Also what teams do you guys think he'd be a good fit for?

Chi it's time to blow it up.  Not that the Knicks are any better but the way they are constructed they aren't going to compete at the highest level.  Sucks althat lonzo ball has gone down but it is what it is.  I'd get whatever I could for derozen and Levine in terms of young guys and picks and start over.  Landing someone like wemby in the draft is where it's at unless you are landing lebron type free agents.
654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: November 15, 2023, 07:32:24 PM
The results of the games you mentioned are headshaking except for San Francisco vs. the Jaguars hehehehe. Also, the Bills which lost vs. the Broncos in their home stadium was not very shocking for me. I mentioned this last week and asked if there were injuries on the Bronco's secondary. This Josh Allen appears to have a minor injury, I reckon. This season he does not scramble very much like the seasons when he was speculated to be the next regular season MVP. I speculate that it might be his knee or his ankle.
Josh Allen is dealing with a right shoulder injury, which is his throwing arm, and it seems way more serious than previously reported as he is missing practices, if to this you add he is showing regression, his cap hit is increasing, there seems to be turmoil on the locker room and even the Madden curse could be involved, this help us understand what it may be going on, I also think Allen may have gotten too used to get the big play and move the ball too fast instead of methodically beating his opponents, and recently even Tom Brady made the observation that he is taking too many risks and said Allen should tone it down a little bit.

On Discord, it mentioned by someone that Stefon Diggs was being very self important and demanded that he have more balls thrown at him which might have been giving much pressure on Josh Allen and how he wants to play. Josh Allen might always say that Stefon Diggs is my brother, however, there are some articles that would make you skeptical of this.

In any case, for the next game in fantasy I am against Burrowhead. The projection is telling me that I will win similar to what it has told me last week hehehee.

That's been an issue.  As long as Diggs is getting the ball he is happy.  Dude is a monster but those types of things end up coming out on the wrong end when you are losing.  As long as you are winning you won't hear about it.  Bills on paper should be better than they are.
655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 12, 2023, 03:33:10 PM
Atlanta today was the joke of the weekend.
Miami is playing without Butler and Herro and Atlanta is getting schooled in the first quarter and plays catch up the rest of the match, what a great way to blow it.

How come we see this so often, the best player of a team is out, they play on the road as well and suddenly they pull off 1 big quarter which pretty much seals it. They lose the rest of the quarters and still win easy because of the stupidity of the other team.  Roll Eyes

NBA at it's best.


Happens a lot but the fact is that a lot of times the guys on the bench don't get gametime run too much so they are much more motivated than the other team.  I think there is a sense of let up on the other team thinking it's gonna be an easy game.  It is crazy that it happens so often you'd think Atlanta would have taken advantage of the opportunity.
656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: November 11, 2023, 09:12:53 PM

Went 1-2 last night bringing my yearly total to 17-16 for my 11th night betting 3 games.  Tonight there are only 2 games but I will take one of the over/unders as well

1) gimme the Pacers at home giving +2.5 points against the Bucks.  2nd night of a back to back I like the home team here.  Hali should control the tempo

2) also gimme the under 241.5.  Think the legs on the Bucks might impact the high scoring ability.  Pacers win 121-117, skimming just barely on the under.

3) also taking the home dog in the other one.  Orlando +3.5 against the Hawks.  Love home dogs and Atlanta shouldn't be favored by that much here. 

Good luck tonight!

19-17 on the year against the book.  12 days in going for #13.  A couple good games tonight  here are my 3:

The Bucks on the road again but I see a bounce back here.give me the Bucks-3.5 on the road in Orlando.

Boston at home single digits always seems like a good bet.  Give me the Celtics-8.5 have home.

Warriors bounce back too and take this one at home.  -3.5 at home.

Good luck tonight everyone!
657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you gamble till old age or not on: November 11, 2023, 08:54:17 PM
Gambling til the wheels fall off!  Seriously as long as it stays as a form of entertainment for me I'm gonna keep riding it.  Once it doesn't become fun for me anymore that's the end.  Probably will do smaller amounts as I get older but who knows.
658  Economy / Services / Re: Courtsiding from a scout (dictation) on: November 11, 2023, 08:47:04 PM
Hello, guys! I thinks everyone knows what is courtsiding - when you go to the stadium, to any sport, and make bets from there, trying to make a bet faster than bookmaker will update the odds.

I have been working as a scout for two years now in a company that provides data for bookmakers (in Scandinavia, in the north). In some countries I have been to all the football and hockey arenas.

I can dictate (3 years of experience) to you matches from arenas where there are no scouts (the bookmaker updates the quotes by taking information from the person who is watching the broadcast from the office).

There are arenas with old equipment, and due to this, a delay in data transmission is created. These are the arenas I ride in.

My price is 125 EUR from a person (I can accept almost any crypto), and I want to take 5-6 persons maximum, so companies will not cancel your bets. Delay is more than 7 seconds (up to 12).

PS I am interested to work with professionals, who knows how to bet and how does it work. I will not write here my contacts, you can contact me in PM and we will discuss it.

PPS You can ask me everything here and I will explain  Cool



So pay you in an irreversible payment and trust you give out good advise.  Do you accept escrow and you might actually need to promote this in services too.  Might get some hits that way.  I'm not familiar with this kind of service is this for big swings in odds based on, on location information?  Why not just make the bets yourself if you get that type of info?
659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 11, 2023, 08:41:30 PM
LA Clippers 0-3 now with James Harden. The Clippers already have a strong team so it's hard to see how James Harden fits in. Clippers doing well without Harden and his style might cause more problems than solutions. Maybe he could come off the bench to help but that's not guaranteed if he doesn't agree. If Jame Harden don't want to go bench trading him might be an option again. Lmao. Even without Harden the Clippers are still a top team especially when Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are fit and playing.

Just like what  I have expected. We have seen similar rosters like this before and most of them weren't successful, unless if someone give up their position and be a complimentary player to the star who the team while shine the most.
Just like how DWade and Chris Bosh gave up their roles and leave it up all to LeBron who orchestrate most of their plays.
I'd rather have a spot up shooters on my team than James Harden who is just like a Russell Westbrook to my team.

I remember also a super team back then the Lakers, with Kobe, Karl Malone, Gary Payton and Steve Nash if I'm not mistaken, I don't know maybe we can compare them on the firepower that the Clippers had today. Or maybe we can say that Harden is someone of a bad luck, because the teams that he joins after he luck OKC, they are not close on reaching the Finals. The closest is with Houston, him and CP3 but we all know that because of injuries, they were knockout by the Warriors.

So let's see how it goes, if James is really a bad luck or it boils down to the coaching staff of the Clippers on how to maximize this superstars so that they can find that winning formula with Harden around because it not, then for sure some drastic changes might happen again to the Clippers, whether it is the coach or some high profile players getting trade (including James Harden).

Those Lakers teams were all old.  It's not like they got malone and Payton when they were in theor prime.  Harden is a good individual basketball player but his teams are not because the dude isn't a good team player period.  He can dish the ball and does it well but he doesn't make any of his teammates better.  I have a wierd feeling this is going to be his last chance before he starts getting phased out. 
660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can a gambler be a good bitcoin trader? on: November 11, 2023, 08:35:05 PM
I base my question about whether a gambler can become a good bitcoin trader, because both of them share one factor which is risk. A gambler is a risk taker, he stakes his money without knowing the outcome of the game that he is about to play. There is no guarantee that he will win, yet he goes ahead to play, knowing fully well that he can lose his bet. Same thing with a bitcoin trader, he goes ahead to engage in trading knowing fully well that the market can turn around  negatively for him, making him to lose his bitcoin. Yet he goes ahead to trade in the hope of making profit.

Although there are some differences between the two, like most gambling depends mainly on luck. You play and let luck decide fate of the game, that is the risk factor, because the gambler doesn't have any control or influence to determine the outcome of the bet. Also a bitcoin trader doesn't have any control or influence to determine how the market swings, he takes the risk to trade his bitcoin without knowing the outcome whether it'll be profit or lose. The diffidence between the two is that a bitcoin trader can predict the market, while a gambler can not predict the outcome of a bet, except in sports bet.

So if a gambler where to go into bitcoin trading, do you think that the experience of taking risk in gambling will be an added advantage to face the risk of bitcoin trading?

Although some traits cross over they are mutually exclusive.  The only thing that would probably help is the risk level and the ability to lose a lot in a quick fashion.  If a gambler is also a good crypto trader its most likely either due to luck, coincidence or 2 separate skillets they are good at.
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